#1346 - Zuby

And we're live what's going on brother. How are you? I'm awesome, man. It's good to be here good to have you here Man, thank you.

I've never had a guy come and wear his own hat and his own t-shirt your number one You're the first I'm surprised by that given how many podcasts you've got about that's how I roll I don't know if anybody's ever come in wearing their own shirt Jamie any thoughts Someone has to have I just can't recall it. Yeah, definitely no one is worn their own hat in their own shirt Yeah, maybe Eddie's worn his own shirt, but that's a 10th plan shirt that doesn't totally count to share with my face on it too So that's a triple Miami. All right, all right, you gotta do sure something maybe I don't think so maybe anyway It's gone man. How long you here for I'm all good man.

I'm in LA for two weeks. It's my very first time here So I just got here two days ago. So just kind of soaking it. What's the mind fuck like it's crazy I feel like I was driving around it's in an uber and it feels like GTA I think more like GTA feels like LA because that's what it's based on but it was just kind of trippy There's levels to the game, right?

The top level of the game is probably either like Singapore Beijing or Mexico City in terms of Mexico City's the only thing that I've ever seen That's more chaotic than LA but LA's it's right up there. Yeah, I think Lagos is more chaotic Lagos Lagos Nigeria. Oh, never been okay That's more chaotic. Yeah, and Cairo then definitely more chaotic Cairo Egypt.

Yeah, I found the more chaotic Well Cairo man, I would love to go to Cairo But I just I am nervous about traveling to Egypt and keep hearing let's I keep hearing two stories from people that go all the time like Egypt Tologists, okay, it's amazing amazing. Don't worry about it The worst thing I have to deal with is constant beggars and then you hear from other people fuck that don't go there It's sketchy. Yeah, I haven't been for a long time when I was a kid. Oh, yeah But like I've been to more recently and it's certainly more hectic and chaotic than I think here is here It's just it's just interesting.

It's very very spread out and just seeing yeah It's people driving everywhere and not much public transport and all that even compared to other cities in the US It just seems like a totally different vibe, but I like it. Yeah, there's just too many people stuff into one area And everyone's driving or they're in an uber so someone else is driving them. It's just constant driving. Yeah, but I'm happy to be here I'm a little bit surreal, but it's cool.

Yeah, I'm sure right so what are you doing under? I'm doing I'm doing this I was on the Ruben report yesterday actually That conservative guy conservative guy that got a on blaze TV story about him Responded he's like on pro gay marriage pro weed legalization pro prison reform pro immigration pro all these different things Yeah, people are calling him conservative well, you know, we live in a times where everyone's saying is right wing So so let it be so I don't know well if you're not as progressive as humanly possible. You're all right Well, yeah, exactly pretty much I've seen all sorts of titles levied on to everybody including including yourself So yeah, it's not you for people don't know zuby won the world championships and women's powerlifting You identified as a woman for a brief period time. Yeah, nice.

I have to do. Yeah, I mean This is where we live in that thing blew the internet off It's crazy insane how far it went man. Yeah, I know I saw that people there it is Let's be sure yes, I identify as a woman while selecting the way to don't be a big You know, I think I think when you first talked about that I had like 40,000 followers It's now well over a hundred and hundred and fifteen and when I posted it I had 15,000 followers So I've gained a hundred and I've gained like a hundred two thousand five thousand followers that video Congratulations. Yeah, it really does highlight how preposterous these new world rules that were We have regarding gender but to their credit the u.s.

Powerlifting Federation, I believe that's the name of the organization They just banned transgender women from competing. Okay, just out top just enough enough of that I think if you want to compete I don't think there's anything wrong with transgender women competing But I think they should compete against transgender women just like how we have men compete against men We have women compete against women. Let's have transgender women compete against transgender women Let's not deny science and biology just to make people feel better and just to support some strange progressive ideology Yeah, I think if they if the goal is that's why I think the goal is more about it's more ideologically driven I think it is actual inclusion driven because if it's just about inclusion and yeah, you can either just have an open category like most men's categories already are They're not actually restricted to men It's just you know the best of the best so anyone can do this so either that or if there are enough athletes in whatever the given sport or competition Is then yeah, you can just have a different a different category and that way everyone can be included without stepping on the feet of half the population That's a bold move by the men say anybody can be in here That's how it is in pool, you know men can't compete in the women's division of pool But women can compete in the men's division. Yeah, it's the same in most sports Most people aren't aware that most people think that they're there have specific restrictions saying only men can do it This episode is brought to you by Squarespace once you've got a great name for your business You need a great domain and Squarespace makes it easy to lock in a domain You just search the name you want buy it and then you're ready to build no hidden fees no weird up sells go to squarespace Dot-com slash Rogan for a free trial and when you are ready to launch use the code Rogan to get 10% off your first purchase of a website Or domain, but that's actually quite rare.

Well, there's a lot of successful female to male athletes where females Transition to males and dominate male sports. Okay. I didn't know it was true. Okay.

Okay. I'm 100% Never gonna happen. I was trying to pickle on what the fuck is this what is going on? Well, have you seen this there's a soccer player I just wants to be an NFL has a kicker because she there's a video over doing a place kick of a 55 year or your field goal recently That's incredible.

That's really far right no one coming out or anything was just like in practice, but she nailed it Which is pretty far. Yes. Well, can you tackle kickers? They can't get hit yeah, they're not doing that actual play of the kick They're not supposed to be touched but for sure they're in the play of the field.

So that's that's not good That's where the problem is Carla. Love ya. Yeah, but stop. Yeah, it's a bad idea Oh, by the way, I brought a couple things for you master.

So that's a zuby t-shirt It's a my latest album that is a zuby shirt that one actually glows in the dark close in the dark It's close in the dark. It's the team It's good for you, my mark. Hopefully It's a kill turtle Not that aggressively and that's my new fitness book there. Oh, you have a book.

You already know that. Yeah, it's a basic Oh, it's workout routines and yeah, just giving people what they need to know about a nutrition training mindset motivation I just wanted to keep it brief and concise all the stuff that I think is most important that people need to know whether they're beginners or Inimidiots. Oh, this is a good sized book to read. Yeah, I put it out first as an ebook But then I'm a lot of people asked me to do physical copies So that's cool.

I did those just before leaving the UK and they've essentially sold out already nice Congratulations on that all you lazy fucks get out there. This is a good book for you because it's short You don't have to look people see a fat book though. Oh Too much work, but this is not even a hundred pages. It's a six was it 93 Boom, so there we go.

There we go. Stronger. I'll put it all benefit. What is your background athletically athletically?

Um, I used to actually play rugby Yeah, so I don't know how much you know about my background So I was born in the UK I grew up in Saudi radio So when I lived yeah when I lived in Saudi I used to play baseball and football or what you guys would call soccer and Those were my sort of main sports. I also did swimming and a bunch of other things and then I went to the UK for boarding school actually when I was 11 years old and there's no there's no baseball there so I Yeah, rugby became my main sport I started playing rugby when I was 11 years old and I played that all the way through the university And I got into just lifting weights and stuff when I was in my mid teens I have a friend as British and he says that that is way more common in in Europe in the UK sending kids off the boarding school Yeah, I do I do think so. Um, I mean with me It was largely because I was in the American system in Saudi Arabia So after fifth grade because there's a little bit of a transition between the two systems there quite different So it was thought that if I'd stayed all the way up until ninth grade Then it would be a little bit difficult for me to transition into the British school system and university system So my parents decided when I was 11 same with my older siblings like we all went to boarding school when we were pretty young So yeah came came back over to the UK and was kind of back and forth between the two countries for several years And yeah, the things that way but um, well, you was you down the military or something? No, my dad's actually a medical doctor.

Oh, okay He's a medical doctor, but I'm he works for a big oil company out in Saudi So we lived there for a couple of decades pretty much. How was that like? I enjoyed growing up in Saudi man. Really?

Yeah, yeah, I actually really liked it. It was a lot. It reminds me of LA. I'm being serious.

Yeah I wasn't ready for that if there are then you don't really see them No, but just I think the heat and the way the way the roads are the way it looks actually Yeah, cuz if you live like where I live with sort of an ex-bat community Basically, so we live kind of in a compound So where I live was a little bit of a little bit of a bubble and then outside of that you kind of got what what I call the real The real Saudi so if you go out into the city or you want to go shopping or something like that then you're out there in the real City, so it's very very different. It's interesting with me because my family backgrounds originally from Nigeria But then I was born in England I live in England now, but I lived in Saudi Arabia for 19 years or so So I've kind of had exposure a lot to three different three very different cultures and ways of doing things and even laws and just the way Society is structured and stuff like that So I think it's given me a pretty interesting and unique perspective on quite a lot of things Yeah, what a broad range of culture that you've been exposed to that's that's pretty fucking cool Yeah, Nigeria is a strange spot because I've never I've never been but when you look at the numbers of successful Immigrants like businessmen and people have come over from Nigeria and how industrious they are and then you look at how many successful Nigerian scammers There are it's a wise very clever place. You got the email from the prince to I didn't get it Well, I have but When I was thinking about was Jamie was telling me a story yesterday about a guy who would he sell a sold a non-existent bank airport airport Yeah, that's right He sold a non-existent airport to a bit There's been several stories over the last couple of weeks about Nigerian scammers making big scores Yeah, there's one that I think closed down a Brazilian bank They took so much of that money to thank out to the bank had to shut down. What is it about Nigeria?

Why are they so good at that? A lot of smart and enterprising people and I think if that's channeled in the right way, then that's a very good thing Well, obviously there's the resources of very limited so they're they're deciding to just go dark and scam people But as a person who hasn't been a victim of this it's quite amusing Yeah, if you see if you see some of the stuff that can get pulled off It's it's quite impressive. It is very much like man. It's actually 330 equivalent to American dollar three and 30 million It happened in the 90s though.

I guess the story is just now going around Okay, I read what happened in the 90s, which is what this is con man Once sold an airport that didn't exist for 330 million now to stop and think about that 330 million in the 90s It's probably like 600 million today or something fucking bananas. That's larias. Yeah, there's some crazy stuff that Nigerian fraudster and con artist Emmanuel, how do you spell out these pronounce the last name Nwud? Mude, maybe moody moody.

I guess something like that. What are you you starting with a M? How do you say? Mude with an N but how are you doing it?

It's an N, but it's The pronunciation is a little bit different say again moody. It sounds like you say moody. No, it's an N Go ahead. I'm called weirdly enough that guy's name is two letters off my actual first name really Yeah, my first name is an Zube whoa, which is spelled N Z U B E So that's actually two letters different.

So you just said zuby would be a little bit more. Yeah, Zuby is just easier It's cool. It's a cool name to no one has that. Thank you I've never heard of the Pulled off the third largest con in history by selling an nonexistent airport to Brazilian bank for two hundred million US dollars before Nigerian internet scams became synonymous with your original Early 2000s email account moody.

They do it. Yeah, thank you successfully convinced an unassuming bank manager by the name of Nelson Sakaguchi that he was selling a yet-to-be-built airport for a price of three hundred and thirty million dollars as the former director of the Union Bank of Nigeria himself Mude was privy to confidential information that was crucial to him pulling off his long con also He knew shit about banking using the information he then impersonated the governor of central Bank of Nigeria at the time Paul Okay, here's another one Paul Ohguma Ohguma ohguma. Ohguma. So you wouldn't go womb.

It's ohguma. Ohguma and connected with Sakaguchi We need Steve aoki come back to inform him of a mouth-watering deal Nigeria's planned to build a brand-new airport in another one Abuja Abuja, okay To juice it up a bit for poor Sakaguchi Mude promised the head of the Brazilian of the Brazilian Bank a commission fee to the tune of ten million US dollars if the deal was approved To get it over the line Sakaguchi paid one hundred and ninety one million in cash as you do and the remainder in the form of outstanding Interest-awaited patiently for the construction of said airport. Wow. That's the kind of thing you can only pull off once, huh?

Yeah, if you get that guy again, you're a loser I saw a guy that got scammed and there was a documentary about it was a television show rather It was really sad because he was a dude Who's older gentlemen look like he was in his 60s and he was convinced that there was this woman who is you know His love and she lived in Europe and he traveled there And he was sending her money and the whole deal and he traveled there twice to meet her and both times she couldn't see him Both times well, but he still believed and his daughter was like I don't know what the fuck to do This guy really believes and you can see how this loss looking as I really really believed that there was a woman over there That was corresponding with him back and forth and he was sending her money like send her a lot money I think it was more than a hundred thousand dollars I remember correctly and he really believed that she was gonna be there for him and then when you went over there something came up and she Yeah, it's weird with stuff like this I always feel like in some way you kind of feel sad for the person but in another kind of like what were you thinking? How do you bounce back from that like people hit some lows people hit some lows in life? How do you bounce back from thinking that there's a girl in Europe that's gonna be your love and sending her a hundred thousand dollars and Traveling over there twice and getting duped both times and then how do you bounce back from that? The first thing you should do is not tell anybody like take the L without just quietly Just take it take it quietly and privately and don't tell people his daughter knew about it Okay, so it was like and then the camera crew.

I mean this motherfucker brought camera now I don't know why I think the show is very vaguely remembered this and I think it was about ten years ago I think the show was all about people that were getting scammed. Okay was about why people get scammed and what you know What is it that makes people believe ridiculous things? Yeah, but when it comes to romance and money those are the two where people get greedy I was literally gonna say it's greed. It's greed because only greedy people can fall for some of those things I mean you see some of those scams and it'll come through saying okay I've just inherited thirty million dollars and I need somebody in the US with a US bank account to help me out with this And I'll give you a ten percent cut and you know that should raise a lot of red flags for anybody who's kind of thinking with that with a head on Street that's true But if you pay attention to televangelists, do you have those in the UK not like the ones in the US in the US?

It's another level you us is another level man. Everything's another level over here. Yeah, everything's bigger Including those mega churches and I don't there's probably one or two mega churches out there in the UK or in Europe in general But not one or two that's it. I don't know.

I'm not even aware of any I'm kind of hedging my bets saying that's probably a couple but I'm not aware of any Not any mega churches. Do you think we have in America? How many do you think we just have in Texas? Yeah, Texas might have a million of them.

Yeah, because I mean the guys who run those things they're like I mean They themselves just yeah, those themselves are celebrities, right? Yeah, there's at least 10 because it says here's an article about the ten largest so in Texas Yeah, just the Texas Wow Yeah, those things all steam guy. He's a fucking baller and a half He's got private jets and mansions and he he bought a stadium He bought a sports stadium and converted it into his gigantic mega churches defined as a church with over 2,000 members Over 2,000 At least 200, Texas. And everyone's given 10% or at least most of them are given 10% right?

I think correctly. What is the how many do you think there are nationwide? Let's say yes? How many mega churches are there in America?

So do we know how many there are in Texas? That's the biggest in Texas at least 200 in Texas 200 oh wow 200 in Texas 200 fucking people rip people off 200 if there's 200 in Texas Wow, I'm gonna say 3000 nationwide I was I'm gonna say 3000 mega churches nationwide. Yeah, I'd approximate around that I'd approximate around that. What do you think Jamie?

You got your hand on Google though. Don't be cheating. Oh too late. I'm already Yeah, cuz I'd imagine some states don't have any what did you think it was gonna be Jamie?

I a couple hundred five hundred But there's a lot of that I don't know I didn't think there's that many that's somewhere in the range of Well, so since it's 2000 that seems low because like I went to Catholic Church and there's more 2000 people some of those churches They're saying mega churches right? Yeah, but that's it's 2000 members are in the church. Oh, well, I mean maybe they just think 2000 scammers It says there's 1300 such Protestant churches, but then it goes into like there's 3,000 individual Catholic parishes have more than 2,000 people so Hmm it gets more that's what's in it several houses like the big building I think there are large churches that are legitimate Yeah, like they're really following the Christian doctrine and they're really holding real services and they're really wanting good for people And then there's those dudes that have the super expensive tailored suits and they drive around and rolls for prosperity gospel They call prosperity gospel if you if you give then you will get see what I have you will get what I have yes You bring me your money. Yeah, it's um, I've got the flying Oh wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait Mississippi passed the dub the flying pastor glides into Christmas service.

He's gliding in with an angel outfit on please rewind Oh my god. This is so crazy. He's getting outfit on and he's flying from the sky. Oh my god That's a good move.

Okay, because now everybody knows about this move. Oh, he's bringing chicks in Well, I'm not saying she is that Beyonce spinning around. Yeah, you know pink had one of them goddamn things No, she didn't she was doing aerial those silk things and she fell really fucked herself up really bad Like she had like internal bleeding and no fluid in her lungs. Yeah, it was bad Well, yeah, no these make a church thing I think you know a church like you said with a congregation of over two thousand people if they're sticking to the script and doing what they're meant to be doing And not trying to yeah, please there please their congregation then absolutely nothing wrong with that It's um the ones who use their position of power and their cult of personality to then just enrich themselves at the expense of their congregation Those are the people I think God's gonna be having a serious word God's gonna be very mad at them But it's interesting that they like the Nigerian scammers.

They're just playing off of weak minds They've just tapped into this group of humans that's gullible and believes nonsense and they know how to they know how to pull those strings Yeah, I think it's uh like I say when I say I think God is gonna be having a word with those people I mean that I mean that very seriously because I think it's you know It's one thing ripping people off or doing some kind of scam or deception or something It's another one using the power of religion to do so where you know that this is what these people believe in your In this position of power and you're now just using that authority to you know by yourself and you vent leaves I mean wasn't there one where I'm was that guy's name is it Creffle dollar the yeah, what do you do? Well, he think he had um I think he had a G4 Yeah, he won't yeah And he he did basically like a crowdfunding appeal to his congregation Yeah, saying that his pride his current private jet is the old model and he needs the new model and he crowdfunded I think to get the G. I saw this thing. I was just like oh my gosh If you're shameless and you're famous like I bet Taylor Swift could crowdfund a private jet as ridiculous as it sounds probably if you just We're shameless.

Yeah, if you just like I don't give a fuck. I need a private jet I want you all to buy for me. Here's a link. I think that's shameless But to say you're gonna do this and you're gonna go to heaven because you did this that's the creffle dollar Say that you're gonna go to heaven if you well his whole thing's the prosperity gospel that so I'm sure there was something In that you know be generous now and you know you'll be rewarded later there it is creffle dollar would get 70 million dollar Gulf String G 650.

Yeah, that's not right man. Oh, so so somehow another he crowdfunded 70 million dollars Is that real did you really get that much money? That is a lot of money? That's why they cost so much the minute metal What are they made of?

What's going on there? That's so much money. How's that 70 million dollars? Like if that was a car right the same shape You'd be like well, it's nice car in the air right it does fly I mean I understand how much difference it's a lot.

It's a good. It safely goes in there Right, but how much different is it fast build it very fast right? It's definitely different but how much different because if a car was that big if a car was that big It was a dopest car ever like a Bentley may a bus. Let's just say it was a million dollars I'm like right I think the new Bugatti's like $12 million Yeah, but that's a different kind of animal right because that first of all that shouldn't be $12 million They're fucking people right now, but also they broke world records like the new Bugatti hit 304 miles an hour which is insane that is insane how fast that is I personally don't like them I don't like the way they look I think they look kind of gross if you bought there's a difference I was just thinking if you bought a Bugatti you get to drive it you buy this plane you don't get to fly it That's true unless you take the lessons well, what you want if you're gonna Yeah, I think if you're gonna spend 70 million dollars on a plane I don't think you should be one the one flying it I think you got some some staff asking price 67 million nine hundred fifty thousand dollars Well, it's not the stage where they just rounded up to 70.

What does it say total hours? 1,616 you don't want to use double landings. Oh, so this is a used one or use yeah What they don't make lots of new ones box that gets passed around and yeah, it was made December 16 2014 Yeah, it's a five-year-old jet and it's still 67 nine So I'm actually interior clean total landing 625 go that fucking thing with those those blue lights What is it black light? Yeah?

Oh my god just splatters jizz all this You can damn Bill's Arians jet. Oh That is coke in between the seeds just calm everywhere. Oh, geez Dan's beard hairs. Everywhere you go You're picking up beard hairs definitely make sure it passed against that one Yeah, I mean what what's the building cost of making a jet like that?

It's amazing they retain their value, too If a yacht is way more like super yachts, you know hundreds of millions of dollars. Sure. Yeah, yeah Yeah, I know some guys the frittitas that only you see they have some preposter shot I saw Steve Jobs yacht After he was dead in Italy. It was it was in the road in Italy and the guy was with pointed out to me Looks like an apple store looks like a floating apple store.

Let's see Yeah, that's it. Okay. Look at that. Oh, I'm floating apple store doesn't really float in Apple's weird And the back is weird saw got everything is run with iMacs like yeah That's how it looks and if you look like in the back windows It's like everything it seems really seems like an apple store and everything is run with iMacs So those iMac screens are all over the place Interesting yeah, Google needs to step it up develop an android boat and reboot It's a cool looking boat, but yeah, how much that fucking thing cost that had a cost $500 million or something ridiculous Yeah, I step up a game zooby.

Yeah, man. Yeah, 100 million pounds Oh, you're a What is a euro's to pounds? It's almost almost almost the same. Oh really almost parody now Yeah, it's pounds almost double what all changes your own pounds are almost one to one now.

Oh, yeah It's like 1.03 or something it used to be awesome to go to Canada Because if you go to Canada your money would go way further because you know I say stop The last time I came to the States it was two to one pound like for every hundred dollars was 50 pounds last time I came real and now it's like now it's like $60 now Sounds like a meeting over the last couple years is it um is it weird the whole brexit thing over there? For people who are really into it. I don't follow it that hard. I'm kind of just bored of it I'm just kind of just do something just make a decision and well the decision should have already been made three years ago But just execute it like let's go let's go out here.

What's the general consensus of like your friends people that you hang out with the people I hang out with those who live in London are primarily on the remain side those who live outside of London primarily on the on the Leave side. Oh, so it's an urban thing like the United States. Yeah, very much like the cities are anti-Trump and the farm areas Yeah, so if you imagine like London and the southeast are more equivalent to kind of like the coastal cities Mm-hmm Pacific Northwest of the US in terms of being much far more liberal in general and being more pro-EU and pro-remain Whereas if you go outside of that if you go out north or to the Midlands or anything like that then people are Yeah, I guess both more conservative I guess in a way and also a lot more anti-EU in general sentiment Mm-hmm so a lot of the people in London and around London work totally blindsided by the Brexit vote in the same way that a lot of People I imagine live in Los Angeles in New York were blindsided by the Trump presidency. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, have you ever seen the girl with the sock hat on? Oh, yes, of course. Yeah, I watch that one on when I'm feeling a little down I watch the Trump reaction video that seems to sort of embody the beginning of The chaos that hasn't sued because things were kind of squirrely before Trump was elected.

Yeah, but now they're just off the reservation Yeah, well, that's part of how he got elected I mean I was what I remember in 2015 before he even won the Republican nomination And I was talking to people both friends and family and saying I think he has a good chance of winning and people were looking at me like I was like I was smoking something well I'm annoyed I didn't put any money on it because at the time was it gambling online gambling? Yeah, I think the first time at the time I first said it I think it was I want to say like 40 to one or 50 to one or something ridiculous like that I called it on my Netflix special and people said get the fuck out of it crazy. I'm like we are that close to President Trump Yeah, well, you travel the country, right? So I think your perspective is gonna be a lot more balanced and actually accurate well also I really don't realize the problems with Hillary like she's that I don't think I Think that if they had gone with Bernie Sanders Bernie Sanders could really want I really think good one You could have beaten Trump.

Yeah, I don't think Hillary is ever gonna win She's got too many skeletons. There's too many things you can point to there's too much too much madness. Yeah, there's way too much way Just way too much. It's been going on by most of my life too That's the thing is like this isn't a new person She's been involved in this thing for decades Yeah, and then when the the actual DNC was rigging the primaries against Bernie and Donna Brazil wrote about it in her book and You go like dirty organization.

It's dirty. Yeah, and she is that's the thing people always forget with Trump is people are always Oh, how did you win or why do you wonder what and it's like you also have to consider like there's all the factors in his favor? But there's also I mean who he was running against that's a big heart of it Yeah, that's a big part of it So people are acting acting as if the alternative was so much better or something and I'm like they thought it wasn't so they fucked up Bernie could have won I really I really think could have won it would have certainly been more interesting because I know a lot of the Bernie people went over to Trump right yeah You know as time goes on one of the things that I've been noticing and I watched a David Pakman video the other day where David Pakman Was pointing out Trump's slurring a speech and I had no idea. It was that bad.

I haven't seen it I hadn't seen it. There was one time where he literally like he's fighting through like say if it's someone put you on paid medication This and he said he'll be gonna make a phone call Yeah, but it's really important to talk to a bank. You're like how's me? If you're god bless America like if you ever seen the video of him, sorry, no, no dude and it's not edited or no No, no, no, no, it's he has a really hard time saying god bless America and Pakman pointed out It looks like he's like wrestling with his tongue.

It's not wrong. I mean when I see him I mean that guy's got some crazy energy for hold is he 70 73 73? Yeah guys got some guys got energy. Yeah, it's called pills On fucking speed to cheat up Like it's legal you doctor doc.

I'm suffering I've got fatigue I have a chronic fatigue and the doctor go well good thing for you. We've got a thing called at her all It's something man. Yeah, it's something. We've talked about on the podcast too much and I repeat myself Yeah, but I really do believe that he's on some kind of stimuli He's been on something in the past and there's allegedly a pharmacy in New York that was prescribing him diapels for years And some journalists uncovered the whole thing.

I'm not surprised Yeah, look I know a lot of people on it man some of them that are functional some of them that are off the fucking charts crazy because of it Yes, yeah, this is the video. Yeah, this is the video But just play the one where you see him slurring his words. Yeah back up a little bit right there play that Listen this our hearts and minds to possible and possibilities and finally I asked the leaders of the region Political and religious Israeli and Palestinian Jewish and Christian and Muslim to join us in the noble quest for lasting peace Thank you God bless you God bless Israel God bless the Palestinians and God bless the United Church Thank you very much. Oh, there's a last couple words.

Yeah, bro. Yeah, that is listen to you. Yeah now listen to him Yeah, listen to you now listen to him. That's a guy who's hopped up on something He's your hopped up on something or he's dying.

He's having it. He's having it. No. He doesn't drink doesn't know That's cool drink isn't the way of pills bro.

Come on slow down the pills you're here for progress We're here to complete tasks and set goals and conquer and make a great again I got the way he was campaigning with the amount of energy that I do have I mean you got a zoom for a seven-year-old man They've got a Medicaid on some shit. That's entirely possible. They always make it in people. Yeah, we were talking about um Who fuck was it that told us about Hitler?

Hitler with the We're I don't remember who brought it up first, but it's like two three weeks ago now Yeah, Hitler when he went to meet Mussolini. He was apparently super exhausted so they pumped him up with steroids and cocaine They kicked in the inject in with steroids and cocaine and then he liked it so much He asked for a second dose and they thought the daughter was gonna kill him and he said give it to me and then He went to visit Mussolini apparently chewed Mussolini's ear off for five hours Mussolini was apparently thinking about getting out of the war and Hitler talked him out of it Just fucking spit and coke talk out of him. There is in the cricket So where's the you can get to that guy? That's a fucking Rick Flair.

I mean, yeah I mean, I think they've done that to people forever. Um apparently that was the case with Kennedy Kennedy They would shoot him up with amphetamines really yeah, see if you can find that well just to keep his energy levels up Kennedy was very sick apparently before he died and he had severe back pains Like he was he was really banged up and he had some sort of a disease I don't know what the disease was but During much of his presidency they would put him on amphetamines to keep him active They didn't think about the consequences of those things back down. I don't think they truly understood addiction back then I don't think they truly understood like the way it affects your decision-making process Well, that's back when they used to just you know advertise heroin in the newspaper and stuff as a sort of 60s non-is that one was that what was that? Was that when they used to just you look at you look in the papers and they just have like you Oh such and such arrow in that's a there's a and when they used to give women a tape or mex's diet pills and Yeah, yeah, it was really original diet pills right they give women a tape or mex So you ingest it and then obviously the tape or gross inside you and eat all the food and you lose weight We have so much to talk about what's fine over Kenny first We've heard of dr.

Feelgood. That's who is dr. Max Jacobson was injecting him and his wife and a list of other people I thought it was a Motleyfrew song. Okay, dr.

Jacob. Oh my god. Mm-hmm. Here we go.

What does it say here the most? Scroll up a little bit the most famous doctor patients were president and Mrs. Kennedy dr. Jacobson frequently visited the White House and often traveled with the Kennedy's in 1961 for example He went with the president to Vienna for a summit meeting with Khrushchev and dr.

Jacobson said an interview gave the president injections there in addition to the Kennedy's other persons who are patients of the dr. included Truman Capote Cecil beat the mill Eddie Fisher Alan J Learner I don't know that is representative Claude pepper of Florida blah blah blah a bunch of other politicians for Intensi Williams Wow including included among the number of a number of other prominent patients of dr. Jacobson have been a bunch of other famous people blah blah blah blah An extensive inquiry also turned up the names of well over 100 others in ranking positions in government journalism finance industry society and several entertainment fields Who are said to be patients of dr. Jacobson, but who could not be confirmed as such?

What does it say about? Okay, it cannot be said with certainty that the Kennedy's or with a few exceptions any other specific patient received amphetamine It is known however that dr. Jacobson uses unusually large amounts of amphetamine in his practice the doctor's office reporter Dr. Jacobson buys amphetamine at the rate of 80 grams a month that is enough to make 100 fairly strong doses of 25 milligrams every day So he's got a hundred people taking hardcore doses of amphetamines every day 25 milligrams apparently they're saying it's a big dose I don't know what I mean, but if it's just taking an adder all it's like 10 to 20 max sometimes people that are crazy at 40 I'm gonna grind it in an animal That's injected to whoa right to the source fuck stomach acids get in the blood baby.

Well, yeah I think it's been going on forever. Yeah, it seems like it well I mean it's about energy right like look at poor fucking Joe Biden that poor bastard you've been paying attention to him a little bit He's bleeding from the eyes. Yeah, I saw that on TV eyes just start bleeding. Yeah, I will see a million He's a million years old.

He's only like 78 or some shit He's not that much older 78 is too old to be it is too old if you're that guy I mean you could be seven like Jacqueline Lane when he was 78 look fucking fantastic when he was 90 was pulling boats Yeah, do you ever see that? I don't think I'm side-ball. Yeah, that's too old man. You don't end for evasive answers evasive answers I can't see fucking bleeding and it was eyeballs.

That's like some hell razor type shit because if you do get into office I mean you age it like four times the normal rate or something anyway Well, he thinks he's been in office, but that's horseshit. He's a vice president The vice president is probably the easiest job of the world the price vice president is like slightly easier than hosting fear factor That's right. You just kind of show up. Everybody else does the hard work Fucking guy that's a bear.

That's barely a job. That's like the best way to go into hiding become vice president Oh, you get shit about you. Okay, unless I'm an happens to president. You gotta step up Yeah, but nothing ever happens.

Yes true. No, I think no one time it's ever happened with the last time was in Kennedy got shot It was the last time and most likely Lyndon Johnson was in on it. Oh, hey, how about that? I said it.

No, I Cannot confirm no tonight. No, who knows who knows what's in on it? Um that guy gonna win the idea that they haven't pulled that guy side go hey Joe. No, he's the front runner though, right?

I don't think anymore. I think Bernie and Kamala Harris are very close So Trump is should win me but because Tulsi Gabbard shut down Kamala Harris in a debate They pushed her out of the debates even though on multiple polls she has enough support to be in the debates They're excluding her from the debates because she attacked Kamala Harris and rightly so and accurately I think she's on the wrong. I think she's on the wrong side. I think she's on the wrong party.

I think she should be a Republican. I do. Yeah, why? Democratic ideas though.

Yeah, that's true. But given the way the Democratic party is going now I think she's far too sensible for them. I don't think so. I don't know.

I think they'll come around She doesn't win this term. She will be president some day. Okay, I really do. Yeah, I watch your watch them listen to your podcast with her So that was interesting.

I've seen I saw that one. I saw that when I saw that Andrew Yang one as well I think it would be awesome if we had a legitimate bad-ass woman president. I think she's the one I think she'd do it I think it'll certainly happen eventually. No question.

I don't know next next time I don't know you know I don't like to make public predictions I do think if things keep going the way they will I do think Trump will take it fairly easily if They've landed. They let Joe Biden get to the front. Trump's gonna win. Yeah, who chew him up Trump will be grinding his teeth and fucking spitting out fillings.

I Mean yeah fucking amen. Trump is a funny guy. He says funny shit funny. He knows how to shut people down Did you see the thing that he did though with the hurricane map?

I didn't know he was telling people that the hurricane was headed to Alabama Like mr. President there's no indication that her can't head to Alabama So he posts a map with the hurricane path with a sharpie that draws Alabama also in the path of the map bro It's so Look at this like you see the path of hurricane and then there's a sharpie drawn around it Okay, see see this is the original go and then you see the left that sharpie drawing Yeah, somebody true that what was the exact wording that you use today? I saw it on the news. They were saying that like White House officials wouldn't deny that he didn't do it or something They wouldn't deny that he did or didn't do it.

So no one's saying the president did not definitely did not draw that He probably said give me the map. Oh, yeah, we'll just put it here. Just draw a bit. Where's Alabama not one?

Okay I did it just add it in yeah guys funny man the thing with the Trump Tower on Greenland that was amazing. Yeah, that was that actually That was funny that tweet that was very funny, but it's you know He's uh, and then you guys have your own Trump that fucking dude Boris Johnson the news prime minister. He looks like Trump. It's crazy.

He's got the crazy hair Yeah, you know, I mean and he's the one he's a pro brexit guy, right? Yeah, he was one of the key leaders of the Brexit campaign What's happening? Well backlash man backlash. I understand it completely.

I understand it completely. I mean Yeah, a lot of like there are a lot of different factors, but that's a pretty key one and just you know the the condescension from People in certain cities about the rest of the country or all the other cities I mean you see that it's the same thing in the u.s. And in the UK like I was saying I mean when you've got people even just referring to all the middle America is what they call flyover country Yeah, I'm like dude. You can't call you can't say that and then the thing is it's not even just that it's expanded even further And the best evidence is Dave Chappelle.

Yeah, Dave Chappelle's recent sticks and stones Netflix documentary for whatever reason Rotten tomatoes thought it would be a good idea to only have it reviewed by five super progressive Critics only critics they closed it off to the public. Yeah, it got zero percent on rotten tomatoes They then opened it to the public and it got 99% of course if that doesn't show a crazy disparity Between first of all the idea that you're gonna suppress it like you're gonna say it's zero percent So no one's gonna watch it. We're gonna shut Dave Chappelle down. He's canceled fuck him But people love him you can't cancel someone who doesn't care man.

Well, you can't cancel Dave Chappelle. No you can't but on top of that Like how would they not understand that someone is going to know that you're not opening it up to the public and that once it does Get open to the public you're gonna get a massive whiplash or backlash where people gonna come and even if they didn't want to vote on it Now they do and now they're gonna give it a hundred percent or 99% I knew I had to watch it when I saw how all the media channel many of the media channels that I really just like Do not respect we're coming so hard at it and saying oh no You don't need to watch it and all this all this means I absolutely have to watch it the Guardian get in the UK get it one Star and then I saw a vice saying like don't watch it Fox saying don't watch I was okay This is this means that I have to watch this is gonna be good Well, the influence of a small group of relatively small group of human beings that are in charge of these media conglomerates It's really astounding and that they it's not just opinion right? It's like they're they're trying to get people to behave and think the way they do it's not just yes It is activism and it's it's also It's undisguised activism. It's very transparent activism.

It's in opposed to journalism I really wish there was a place where we could go where we can get 100% unbiased information and news And we can get an honest perspective of both sides this side believes this and this is why they believe that but this I believe that and this is why they believe that it's very hard to do and if you have a podcast one of the things It's really interesting is if you even talk to someone who has an opposing point of view of yours or who is right wing or who? It maybe has some questionable ideas you are somehow platforming them and supporting their idea and then supporting some alt white alt-right ideology and It there's no room anymore for people to have conversations with people with differing opinions and just find out why there is there is It's right here. Yeah, you've literally created it man. Seriously.

You've you and a handful of other people have created this Well, it'd be a nice if I could go somewhere if I could go somewhere and I mean, it's nice that I'm doing it, but you gotta trust me I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. I'm not the guy to be distributing information I'm certainly not the guy to be analyzing things. Yeah, I'm too busy. Okay.

I have too many other jobs I got three kids. I got three jobs I got a lot of hobbies, you know, I'm fucking busy Alright, I'm not the guy to go to that's gonna give you an in-depth comprehensive analysis about the way the world works It's not gonna happen. I'm not your guy. Yeah, but what I am is someone is interesting talking to people what they should have is someone who has my I don't say my sensibilities But my my willingness to communicate with almost anybody and then also someone who does a real exhaustive Research does real exhaustive research on the actual facts behind all these critical issues.

They're gonna affect everybody I don't see that anywhere. Well, you're not gonna you're certainly not gonna find it on television Just because the format just doesn't allow for that You've got the time pressure the advertising all that just simply doesn't allow for it And then in you know the way newspapers and journalism is going I mean the stuff that's been paying is the clickbaity sort of stuff You know the stuff that gets people outraged stuff that gets people fired up highly partisan stuff. It's you know being sensible is not the In the old media. That's not what seems to be profitable.

I know but is that everything is profitability anything? Where's real journalism? Yeah, because I feel for real journalists because I do think that they are fighting for their lives in terms of this world Like nobody I subscribe to a few different things I subscribe to the Washington Post and the New York Times and a few other periodicals online Well, I pay money to read their stuff online because I think they have valuable contributions I just I don't think many people are doing that there's so much free shit Vox is free all these other places are free And so if you're only going with free shit You're only going to get by a stuff and you're also only going to get stories that are commercially viable To the people that are making it and why would they be commercially viable? Well, they got to be clickbaity.

That's that's the only way you get people to pay attention to shit And that's I think that's that's already starting to stop working You think so? The clickbaity stuff. Yeah, I don't know if you I mean if you were I think back a couple years ago where I don't know You'd go on Facebook and you'd get all these kind of like buzzfeed things and you had all these new media companies That sprung up and sort of took advantage of the clickbait era But people are pretty people become quite wise to that now I think and people are starting to realize I mean I think if you went back even a decade I don't think most people thought that the media in general was particularly biased Maybe they would have thought okay Maybe that one and that one but not just generally now I think if you were to survey people like a lot of people understand that even the ones that are supposed to be impartial things like CNN Things like the New York Times, especially when it comes to the opinion pieces, you know People know that those things are not just giving it to you straight I know you're you're getting some spin some cases you're getting it from a totally partisan angle And I think if people are upfront with that if they're like look we're a conservative news outlet look We're a liberal left wing news outlet and that's the filter everything is coming through if they're upfront about that then you know I'm kind of like oh yeah That's that's fine But if people claim to be unbiased or claim to be totally impartial and just bring you the facts without putting too much opinion or spin on it And then you can kind of see through that and see that's what they're doing and they may not even know that they're doing it Right because so many people get stuck in these echo chambers So I don't think all of it is necessarily on purpose But that's just how it is and I think the vibe I'm certainly getting I know with myself and with other people and listening to what people are saying is people are starting to Notice it a lot more I know you've talked a lot about the online tech censorship and bias and stuff like that Which is another thing that again, I think if you went back ten years ago I don't think people thought that Facebook or Twitter or YouTube or any of these things were biased whereas now in 2019 It's like okay, you've got enough examples to see okay They're deplatforming a lot of people of certain political persuasions And then you've got other people who are outright calling for violence or just saying like crazy stuff or threatening people and They're fine. They're turning a blind eye to it.

Yeah, and it's it's just in your face and it's kind of like well This isn't me being a conspiracy theorist. It's just they've taken off that person that person that person that person But all these people are still there so these rules are not being applied fairly that's certainly the case And it's also certainly the case that they're trying to manage this stuff at scale Right so they're trying to manage like one of the things that I got from communicating with Jack Dorsey the head of Twitter Is that you saw me go ahead? Yes when the head of Twitter gets hacked like damn They use a very simple way to do it SMS text because they used to have a system where you could send text through you know To Twitter through text messages and they hacked it that way. Yeah, that was so weird.

I was on Twitter when it happened What's on like jackets act? It's like wait a minute Wait a minute the guy who's a fucking head of Twitter who's been at the head of this the helm of his controversy when it comes to censorship It got hacked yeah, and his pin tweet is something about how Twitter wants to open up conversations And yeah, it's like it's something very very positive. Yeah, and then underneath it was just like whoa I think he really does want to open up conversations And he really does believe that blockchain is eventually going to have virtually every conversation that everyone has ever had ever Available for everyone online and the idea of censorship is gonna be preposterous in the future And I think he's right and I think that's one of the reasons why his own personal philosophy is that Twitter should essentially be a town hall This is what he and I this when we got into it particularly with a tin pool in Vidja when we talked about it his philosophy is personal philosophy Is that Twitter should be available to anyone to communicate their ideas and that it should operate much like the first amendment? So you know the only thing you can't do is call for violence and dogs people and things like that Are they gonna bring people back then they should I told him he should I said They should and then he said that there was a thing an idea of a Wild West Twitter I get to have two Twitters you have a curated Twitter and then you have anything goes Twitter Yeah, yeah, you bring back Alex Jones and whoever the fuck else has been banned who's a few people Yeah, big ones Laura Loomer.

Yeah, all them Megan Murphy. Yeah, Megan Murphy's ridiculous way I want to get her on we've talked about having her on I hope eventually I can if people Don't know what happened she got banned from she is what's called a turf which is a trans exclusionary radical feminist And it trans exclusionary that's a weird word exclusionary. I don't even say it right. I say exclusionary exclusionary Radical feminists is someone who thinks that trans women are not women and so she has said you know publicly that she doesn't think that trans women Should be in feminist spaces communicating as women And so she got into it on Twitter with someone and she said but a man is never a woman and they like time then Yeah, they know they actually told to take that down So she took it down but she made a screenshot of it and then she posted up the screenshot that said a man is never a woman They gave her a lifetime ban.

Yeah, which is goddamn hilarious. Yeah, I mean that's crazy I don't get the lifetime. Oh, we're talking about people a Milo as well. Of course my look got taken on several years ago Let's see they wouldn't tell me exactly why Milo got taken off They said that Milo had harassed Leslie Jones, but he hadn't he made fun of her But apparently there were some allegations that there was many accounts other than Milo's connected to Milo that Milo was operating This was the allegation.

I don't know if that's true Yeah, and that this is one of the reasons why they had made the decision But that might not be the case that might be the case of someone saying hey We suspect that these other accounts are also run by Milo's because they wouldn't say it on the podcast Yeah, I think it's look even if even if someone did get banned for genuinely violating some terms of service the idea of a lifetime I mean forever you're not That's insane. I mean you can be you've got you'll have literally convicted hardcore criminals on there who can have twitter accounts and stuff But it's like okay, you said something that someone didn't like Gavin again This is an I got a mechanist. Yeah, there's quite a few you know the problem is when you ban these people the way they've done It radicalizes people in opposition and it also Here's the reality man Twitter is a terrible way to communicate It's fucking terrible limited amount of text the text is a terrible way to communicate I mean we were just talking Jamie now we're talking yesterday about disagreements that people have had that we know through emails like that emails like someone reads it wrong and then someone sends you a Message hey, you know this guy is disrespecting me and then you go and read it and go what is going on here man? Because people read into text they they just decide that things in text means certain things they might not really be accurate Yeah, I think that's a problem And I think that the method of communication through Twitter is just a terrible method Twitter is good for letting people know you got things coming up I'm like hey, I got an album out.

Yep. I am perseverance Perseverance will be Twitter is good for I love it for posting science stories. Okay. Yeah, and interesting stories Twitter is amazing Twitter is the best social media platform by a mile I don't interact with people anymore I don't even read I send things to the world that I think are interesting.

I hope people enjoy it Genuine, I don't I don't bash anybody on Twitter. I don't attack anybody on Twitter I've had opportunities where someone's informed me of something that someone else has said and I'm like that's not even Sure people say well stuff about you man. It's interesting people stay some some well stuff Just just generally but you know I think when it comes to communication the further you move away from face-to-face Real-world communication the further you abstract away from it the worse the communication method is and easier it is to I mean You lose so much yes, and it is to intentionally distort it is it is and you know you lose so a phone I mean real life is the best and then second to that probably a video chat after that a phone call After that a text after that a tweet and the further you abstract away from it You just lose more and more of the actual communication because you can't read any body language now There's no intonation in the words you can't tell I could say something now and it's like you know you say something with small Any fail it's Joe's joking, but if you tweet those exact same words one person over you didn't be like okay I think you tweeted that with a smile on his face someone else is like no that's that's dead serious like that's a That's something crazy He's saying there and nobody really knows and then because it's all public I mean it's Twitter is weird because there's not it's like just going Into a room and just full of people in just shouting something yes, it's not like a forum where it's like okay This is the topic we're talking about this right now Mm-hmm. Twitter is just like this is what I think about anything and you just throw it out there And then you wait for people to people to come back with stuff It's interesting someone tries to be someone tries to establish a narrative about themselves on Twitter like hey listen as a Happily married man who's a Christian and this and that like wait whoa whoa who are you talking to?

Are you shouting this out to the world are you trying to are you trying to describe yourself for people so people have a certain way of You and you oh yeah, that's actually gonna work they're immediately gonna go Why are you talking like this what kind of person says these things what kind of person like tries to establish a narrative about them? Well, they do it before they even talk I mean people do that with their Twitter bio. Oh, yeah with their bio I mean some people put in you know, this is my species my location my pronouns my religious or non-religious views You know who I vote for like all of that. Yeah, here's my advice folks If you see anybody that says they them as their pronouns block them just block them right now No, I've got something I'm trying to coin is zuby's razor Which is that if someone on Twitter has their pronouns in their bio then there's like a 95% chance that you can just Dismiss a lot of what I'm saying zuby's razor is a very good way describing and I'm gonna use that for now I'm gonna call it zuby's razor.

You know, it's interesting I know that you have an android phone what Apple did to fuck people is uh when someone is about to write a text to get those dots Dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot to let you know they're typing and then it goes away like oh They were gonna type something and then they fucking stopped whereas with android you send a text You get a text back. Maybe you do maybe you don't but you don't know if anybody's in the middle They could write some long lengthy bullshit text and then wake up sober and go. Oh my god I didn't send that you know, it's like emails. You don't know whether or not someone's gonna Was someone's replying to an email but that dot dot dot dot dot dot dot you get that on instagram too if you send a DM to somebody that says typing Oh, that's a weird one just be plans.

I do it does you can annoy people you can just start typing and then walk away Just just keep the app open and use other apps. Yeah, it's crazy all the social media stuff I feel like we're just right now in the middle of sort of the biggest experiment amongst humankind That's ever taken place and we're you know, we're all getting a big thing Like we have no idea what the long term implications and repercussions of some of the stuff is gonna be But it's like we're all just in here using all these different platforms and uh, I mean you can already see some of the effects It's uh, it seems pretty well documented that things like depression and anxiety are going up as use of social media goes up I mean literally during the introduction of it with the smartphones. It's a combination of smartphones and social media Yeah, I think that does it only it's not smartphones alone It's not social media alone like when you had to go log in on a pc to use my space or friendster or high five or whatever And then you go out the house and you're no longer on it It's just a fact people are constantly carrying it around and yeah trying to get this validation and you know, you've got Instagram Now talking about potentially removing likes or changing YouTube removing views because they're seeing how it's affecting people and all this kind of stuff and Yeah, it's not gonna work though That list is too late and the box is open, you know, you're a grown-ass man So for you you can handle all this shit Yeah, I think the real problem is kids Kids growing up being 13 and 14 and having twitter and instagram and facebook and having Anonymous people say really shitty things to them anonymous friends or enemies at school That's a real issue and jonathan hate wrote a great book called the coddling of the american mind It's really good. Okay, and it goes into that and debon it really made me fucking super nervous for my kids Like the growing up and developing during this time where we have this, you know, sort of uncharted territory of social media It's not like a lot of documented history of use We can go back to hundred years of people using social media and this is the way to do it healthily And it's the way to you know, there's people that are just fucking tweeting all day long Yeah, it's just an experiment going crazy pulling their fucking hair out taking pills barely barely getting by in this life and just tweeting all day long Yeah, it's weird and you've got people have different and then you've got people just post 10 selfies a day same same picture Same face and just go there really?

Yeah, there's some it's generally women But there's some people's profiles you can go and it's just you're on their instagram page and it's just all just their face same face same Pose and just the time today But that's you're going over there. See that video clip where the girl had the selfie stick and she's she's trying to get a photo of her own butt with this with a selfie stick She's like on a deck chair. I've seen that That's hilarious and someone took a picture for doing it. So her ass is straight up in the air and she got the selfie stick up like that Oh my god.

She's trying to get that perfect ass angle. I was like, well, that's the 2019 Thursday Thursday people are so thirsty. They want like so badly. Yeah, it is it is very weird and then you've had people who have died because of it Yeah, yeah, I don't know Canyon.

Yeah, keep falling off the Grand Canyon. Yeah, falling to their death Yeah, people falling off buildings. There was that couple where the she is Still loving our generation. Oh, I posted that.

Oh, no. Yeah, I got her stuff. She has got the selfie stick. Oh, she does have a selfie stick.

Oh, she put it on the selfie stick Look at that dirty bitch. See see right there. She's got her arm up and she's like not good enough. Let's get that selfie stick out.

Oh my god. That is so hilarious. Strange. But imagine if that's your daughter.

You're like, no It is really strange. What have I done? Because I think it's it's both exposed people for what they are but it's also changed people's behavior. Yes, you know, people do things now that you just wouldn't even something as simple is taking a picture of your food Well, here's something that never existed before.

Yeah, this is a move that women do. Where the point phone? Oh my god. Oh, no, it's probably my car.

Oh, well, no. Yeah, here it is. My purse, my man purse. This is something that you see now that you never saw before.

Ready? Who's the look? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Chicken neck. Then the girls do. I'm gonna try and get the right angle. Go get the right side.

Nobody's do that before. No. Right? That's a new thing.

That's a new movement of the head. Yeah, it's taking photos of yourself is a pretty new concept. I remember my space people used to do it in the mirror in the bathrooms and the bathrooms and stuff like that. Right.

Right. That's when they first got thirsty. Yeah. The first starts in six packs and nice asses.

Yeah. Yeah, it's just we're I just wonder what the effect will be in a couple of decades to be honest with you. Coincidentally, my space is also right around the time that white people started figuring out they like big asses. Something's happened with that, hasn't they?

I was talking about this with one of my friends. Go back to the Duke's hazard. Yeah. Okay.

This is what I was talking about. They're the Catherine Duke. She was like one of the hottest women on the planet Earth in like 1980. And she's a beautiful lady with an ass as flat as this table.

She probably never did squat. Yeah. Ever. And nowadays that won't fly.

You can't get by. You can't get by without a big caboose. It's weird. It's part evolution, part diet, part.

Doctors. Doctors. You know, going to the gym has become a lot more mainstream than in general, hasn't it? It certainly has, but there's a lot of gals out there.

Faking. There's a lot of gals out there with some plastic shoved in their buttocks area and ready for this. As cancer. There's a whole group of humans that are experiencing cancer in their ass because of acid plants.

Really? The same kind of cancer that many women get when they get breast implants. Oh, it's not 100% of them, but it's it's it's relevant. Like if there's an issue, there was an article written about it recently that women are started.

Doctors are starting to find the same types of cancer that some women get because you know, everyone's body reacts differently to everything. And there are certain risks that you take if you get some sort of an implant in your body that your body rejects it or that it causes cancer. So women are getting cancer over their ass. Man, that's a rough cancer, bro.

You got to go in there and scoop out chunks of your butt and maybe you die. Maybe you die. It's not worth it because you weren't willing to do squats. Yeah, just do squats.

That's the thing. You can do squats. It's like if a guy has a little dick, all right. And there was a machine that let you build your dick up.

There would be a line around the block for that machine. Right. I mean, everybody would be on that goddamn dick machine, but women have a way to build their ass up. It is a real thing.

You can do squats and deadlifts. You can run stairs. You can do squats and deadlifts and you will get a big firm ass. And it works.

You're not going to get a J-Lo ass unless you got those hips. Yeah. I've seen when guys do the six-pack implants or of course you must have seen like synth, you know, synthol and stuff where they inject the oil into the muscles. Well up.

Yeah. People do weird. Crazy. People do some strange, some really strange stuff.

The six-pack one is the weirdest though. Yeah. Because it's just they're all the time. Yeah.

Even if they, yeah, but it looks weird. Yeah. Because even if you, even if they gang weight and the rest of their body is kind of flabby, you still just got, it looks like a Ninja Turtle. Yeah.

That's the perfect describe. Yeah. Yeah. It looks like Ab implants over his keg.

It looks like a Bowser from Mario, you know. Show me that in a large version. Jesus Christ. That's weird, right?

That's so crazy because that guy is fat. It just doesn't look right. Wow. That's so weird.

And that's definitely fake. Isn't only that guy just does a shit ton of sit-ups? No. Because he's got a barrel chest, but he doesn't have any any packs, which is weird.

Who is that? Says celebs. I think this guy was on Big Brother in the UK. And he definitely got an Ab implant?

Yeah, that's in fact. Yeah. 100%. I'm pretty sure.

I don't know. I'm pretty sure that starts. Yeah. Let's just show us our plastic surgery, plastic abs.

Go back to that image that you were just at before. Go back where you just wear it. No. Scroll down.

No, no, no. On the other side. Scroll down. The boxer right there.

The left inside. Yeah. That guy was a boxer above it right there. That guy had peck implants.

Okay. That was a boxer with peck implants and like crazy plastic surgery face. He watched a video of him before. He was fighting in Mexico.

He had like fixed fights in Mexico. Remember that? This guy had fake everything. Like fake chest and fake muscles.

Because it doesn't even function. It's so strange because it doesn't even function. Yeah. If you had big arms or arms that look big, pumped up with synth or whatever, but then they're not even strong.

Right. And then the problem is look at that neck. Grab a hold of that neck, bro. You ain't defending any chokes, sir.

That is a tiny ass neck. Oh, that one there. That before and after really shows on the left, the abs. Oh, yeah.

Go to the far left. Yeah. You can. That really shows that.

Wow. That's incredible. My God. But what's weird is because your abs only look like that if you're leaning like if you're flexing them.

Yes. But when they do that, it's like that all the time. All the time. So it just.

Look at that. That's incredible. It's different. It's different.

It's not an implant, but like sculpting it some way with something. That guy did also lose weight between those two pictures. Yeah, he certainly did. He certainly dropped his body.

It looks like his arms and chest got bigger. Yeah. He leaned up. I'm not buying that.

I might be just. And then you got that synth all guy out there. I don't know. People do some people do some strange things.

The thing is a woman can get things done like boobs and known cares. Guys, like she looks hot. But if a guy's got like a fucking sock and it's. Oh, wow.

Oh, that we're looking at a girl who has fake implants of her abdomen or abdominal muscles that are so obviously fake that they're over her ribs. Yeah. Like those muscles are literally over the rib cage where they don't even belong. No, that's nuts.

Look at face to steroids. Yeah. So you can see like, yeah, so look at that guy. You can see when he's sitting.

Like the abs are still. Oh my God. It's just so ridiculous. Look at this.

You got to lose weight if you're going to rock a fit. That's so lazy. It's so lazy. See, abs are a weird one because if you really desperately wanted abs, everybody can get them if you just work hard enough.

You know, abs, it's not like what is that? Jesus Christ. Like guys, abs and then a weird swelling underneath. Oh, it says flesh fanny pack.

Yeah, but that's this. What is that? I don't know. Sorry.

What is that? That's just a weird picture. Yeah. Yeah.

But guys with fake things that like get no respect. You know what I mean? I got with fake dick. Like I would have here.

I got with fake pecs. Kick away. What is this? Whoa.

Injected into his balls. Oh my God. Man dies after injecting silicone into his testicles for sex cult game. Okay.

Yeah. That's how it had issues. But like dudes with fake pecs and guys with fake muscles like nobody wants to see that shit. No, just go to the gym and eat right.

It does work. Yeah. Really if there was a dick growing machine, you know, like a squat rack for your dick boy boy. Would there be a line?

But after. Wouldn't it just become like that would just become the new norm? Yeah, girls would be all stretched out. Everybody have a giant hog.

But you know what? I don't actually think most people would use just like most people don't go to the gym. I mean, you've already got this option to increase your muscles and make yourself look better and most people don't do it. So I'm not convinced that if it took actual work and effort, I don't actually think the majority of people would do it.

I think you're 100% correct. Yeah, it was difficult. It was hard work. That's why people want these operations.

All they have to do is go to the doctor's office and doctor's gonna take care of everything. Mike, I'm gonna put you under and when you wake up, you're gonna have a hog of a lifetime. You're gonna have giant pecs and a full sculpted six pack and synth off stuffed muscles. There's one video.

This guy. This Brazilian dude who's got these synth off muscles and he's dancing. He looks like he's got water balloons. Oh, I know you're talking about that.

The body dysmorphia where people just don't see what other people see like same as anorexics and same as you know, I guess bodybuilders have that same issue. Like a lot of really enormous bodybuilders still feel like they look small. Yeah, it's it's weird, man. It's weird to like I just think if you want to change your body.

You want to change your physique. You want to feel better. You want to feel more confident. There is a way to do that.

Yes. That doesn't involve paying tens of thousands of dollars or taking massive health risks or getting cut up or anything like that. Just go to the gym, lift, train. It works.

It really does work. Not everyone's gonna be able to reach some elite level, but you know, everyone can look better, man. Everyone can look better. The people that have sympathy for people with physical deformities and you know, issues that just can't grow muscle or something's wrong with your body or you have a disease.

Like, yeah, I get it. Then for those people, I do truly hope that science comes up with a solution and then through some sort of CRISPR type engineering they're able to. Here's a question for you, Joe. Do you think that there's any sort of limit in terms of what science maybe could do but sort of should not?

Do you know what I mean? Like as science advances and things get a little more crazy and they're looking into things like making people immortal or all that kind. In your own mind, do you think there's like a level where it's like, well, maybe we should like leave this alone and not go that far? I don't know what you think.

I think even if you do think that and I'm sure that you could find examples where I would say that's a bad idea. It's not going to matter because I think that people are going to do it. And if the United States is going to do it, China is going to do it. I think China is already experimenting on people in pretty radical ways.

They're doing CRISPR on fetuses. They're going to do genetic engineering. I think it's just in the cards. In our lifetime, we're going to see some product of genetic engineering that's some super freak athlete.

When you and I are old men, we're going to be watching television, whatever the fuck they have back then, in the future, and we're going to see someone who can jump over buildings. We're going to see someone who can literally fly over cars, just leap over things, someone with preposterous physical attributes. That's all created in a laboratory. If you think about the greatest athletes the world has ever known, you look at the very best physical specimens that humanity has to offer.

And they just figured out, okay, well, what are the traits and how do we impart those on people and how do we actually improve them? How do we double them and triple them? You know what my outstanding inhibitors are? Yes, I do.

They allow the muscle to grow far beyond what you can. They list in, for whatever reason, in some cows, naturally, and also whippets, which is weird. It's just so weird. I've shown people pictures and they're like, that's not real.

It is real. Something with whippets, apparently when they breed them. Like, breeding dogs is weird. I have a friend who has a chocolate lab and their eyes are about as close together as my two fingers are.

That dog is fucked. It's just like, I don't like being around it. It'll bite you. It's overbred.

It's like some fucking West Virginia hillbilly just left alone in some small town. I can't get anywhere. There are people like that, right? There's inbred people?

Well, there's inbred dogs. You should be a big problem with royalty, right? Yes, yes. Yeah, because they only had to breed with other royalty.

Whatever reason, when you breed whippets and something goes wrong, because they're just breeding with other whippets, they developed this fucking preposterous ability to grow muscle. And they were like, hope dogs. That's going to happen to people. Man, there was already a boy who was born in Germany, I believe, who had a natural problem.

His body naturally had the same issue that a whippet had. I think I know, I'm trying to actually remember his name, because I know the kid you're talking about. See if you can pull that up. Well, there was one kid, they'd call them the young Hulk, but it turned out that his father was actually injecting with steroids when he was a little kid, which is awful.

But this is a boy from Germany who had this milestone inhibitor problem, and he was fucking jacked. How old? He was a little, like four, four or five at the time when I saw the pictures, and I'm talking just thick muscle caps. He looked like Paul Costa, the guy who fights in UFC.

He's fucking jacked. Just jacked, jacked little baby. We're going to see the Hulk, a real live version of the Hulk that's going to happen. That kind of stuff, it does freak me out, because it's like Eugenics 2.0.

Man, where's this stuff all going to go? Well, there's a beauty in our diversity, our physical diversity. There's a beauty in the fact there's really tall people, really short people, really smart people, really stupid people, and sometimes stupid people, really good at certain things. Sometimes smart people are really bad at other things.

There's a beauty in the chaos of human life, is that we are all weird and different, and if you can find your way, everyone can make some sort of a contribution. It's not that everyone's going to make some sort of a contribution, but it's possible that most of us can find something where other people find value in what you do, and you can do something in an extraordinary way. Definitely. I think a great way to stay humble is to always remember that everybody is superior to you in some way, shape or form.

It seems like you've got people who are kind of awesome at everything, or whatever, but it's like every person out there has got something that, especially if they tapped into it, and actually reached some fraction of their potential, then people are capable of all kinds of crazy things when they actually do it, and they train, and they work on it. Another perspective at Hanser is that the grave beckons, we're all going to die, and they're dwelling on what you're great at or not great at in this life. It's like, okay, you get much time, bro. It seems like you do, but it'll be there before you know it.

The rim reaper is going to be knocking on your door. I think that's motivational though. There's a little block here. Yeah.

He's four years old. Wow, it's great. Who does that? Jeez.