135: Ryan Sawyer (Zeena Parkins, Charles Gayle, Boredoms, At The Drive In)

Ryan Sawyer grew up in Texas, where he joined At The Drive In just long enough to play on the band's first album. Now a long time resident of New York, Ryan has honed a style that exists at the convergence of punk and jazz. His collaborators have included Thurston Moore, TV On The Radio, Boredoms, Zeena Parkins, Charles Gayle, and Gang Gang Dance. He talks to Joe about self doubt, relevancy, his computer programmer parents, and the fortuitous experience of seeing Sheila E. at a young age.