137 - A Christian Not Making Another Christian May Not Yet Be a Christian" — Jon Shuler on the One Thing Worth Measuring - June 18th, 2026

"A Christian Not Making Another Christian May Not Yet Be aChristian" — Jon Shuler on the One Thing Worth MeasuringDescriptionBefore Jon Shuler had a PhD in church history or a degree in theology, he was a civil engineer — and in episode 137 he reaches back to a diagram from that first training to ask a question every church planter must face. Every church takes in the same resources: people, money, buildings. Every church runs an internal system. Every church produces an output. So why do the outputs differ so wildly? Shuler contrasts abrother in North India who moves men from unbelief to church-planting leadership in under a year with his own Anglican diocese, where the same path takes four years or more — and lands on a line from the great New Testament scholar Raymond Brown that the early Christians believed a Christian who was not helping to make another Christian probably was not yet a Christian. If your system isn't producing disciple-making disciples, Shuler says, the system has to change. A searching, practical, and convicting episode for every companion, church planter, and Great Commission Christian.