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Oh, is it more me, go figures? Er, you wish. I do wish, actually. Yeah.
I remember that one. Very empty day. Yeah. So this will be the last of our special guest episodes.
Yes, for your not listener. Colleen will be returning very, very soon. Not for you. And I can't wait.
I can't wait. I can't wait. I literally can't wait. But until then, today, I'm joined by a long time collaborator and someone that I show one or two pieces of DNA with, it's James.
Sorry. Well, for the DNA bit. No, for coming back. No, thinking about it, the subject that we're actually going to be talking about today is almost a full circle thing with your very first episode of music.
Nothing's about that. It's true, yeah. So how you doing? I mean, it's not like I don't see you every day, but, you know, I'll keep the illusion going for the podcast.
How you doing? I'm all right. Anymore? I go out and fight crime every night.
Here? Yep. I dress up as a large bat. I'm just at a large bat.
All right. And I fly around with my psychic over here. Well. Well.
This is new to me, but, you know, I'll take it. Also, you know, mental illness is a real problem. All right. So, you know, maybe I should be being dragged to Arkansas.
I think you might be after this one. After this one. So thank you for filling in for Colin. Sorry.
I'm just a period one. So, oh, it's a big word. Sorry, Colin. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You'll listen to this. No, you won't. Oh, you will. You will.
So on this episode, I'm taking full advantage of Colin's absence. And we'll be discussing something to do with superheroes. Oh, I wonder what it could be. Well, we'll be talking about episode one of the Batman serial from 1943.
That was what 200 years ago? Well, I was born yet. I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know.
I wasn't. So I'm DB says the very first serial to a comic book character of Batman in it. Batman is a secret US government agent attempting to defeat the schemes of foreign agent. And I've edited that doctor, Daka operating in LA at the height of World War II.
So it's supposed to say this is a very different take on the character that we're all familiar with. Yeah, I wouldn't typically say that Batman works for the government or as they say in the serial Uncle Sam. Uncle Sam? I know he had a, he's got an answer.
What's her name? In the 60s? Oh, god. And Julia, where was she?
She's gone. Yeah, I'm gone. No, this is a very different take on Batman. I think there's a lot of reasons for this as well.
Yeah, definitely. We'll get to that. So Batman, the Batman comic was first released in 1940. So, yeah, it was, was it?
It was 1939. All right, 1939. Ooh! The fifth of May, 1939.
I'll fix it. I'll fix it. I'll fix it. It'll look smooth.
All right. It really well. It won't. And so it's kind of strange to think that the point of this serial, the character that we're only going around for three years, that's a really hard thing to get into your head, isn't it?
Because Batman's been around for as long as I've been around. Well, first off, that's four, considering the editing. But yeah, no, that is strange because usually characters don't, characters don't usually have quite that short of a gap between, I mean, it usually takes, I mean, think of, I know this off topic, but say someone like Iron Man who took like what? First of all years?
Yeah, before we got the full feature link film. I think it's, it's, it's testament to how popular this character probably was with kids at the time. Yeah, I mean, it was kind of, it was kind of the first of its kind, really. I mean, you had people like the Shadow and the Phantom.
But Batman, Batman kind of stood out. Yeah, he did. Yeah. I mean, he was stood out a lot more if they'd have used Gone with the original Bob K on the display.
So it was costume. Yeah, with his red, what was it? Spandex suit, domino mask and actual back wings. Not sure that would have caught on as well.
No. Although I did like the back wings in the illustration. Oh, that's all. So do you want to give me a cast list?
Yeah. So this stars Lewis Wilson as Batman, Douglas Croft as Robin, J. Carol Nash as Dr. Daco and Shirley Patterson as Linda Page.
A whole bunch of goons. Yeah, pretty much. So these series were designed to be shown before the main feature back then. And there's so many of them.
There's Captain Marvel, Flash Gordon, Buck Rogers. And my personal favorite is Rocket. Oh, yes. Yeah, well, you've got up, down, left, right, left, right, left, right, left, right, left, left, right.
I was introduced to them as a kid back in the early 80s. I think they were rerun a lot on, I think, I might have been channeled for at the time. But what about you? I mean, how familiar are you with these kind of serials?
I wouldn't make it before doing this. I had already seen this cereal before. And I did enjoy it. I have Gone and looked at other stuff like the Captain Marvel one and even the Captain America one.
But yeah, they're all kind of, they filmed like TV episodes, but made in the 40s. Which is essentially what they are really. Well, yeah. It's just you wouldn't normally show a TV show episode before a film.
No, I get what you mean. Yeah. I mean, they are very off the time. Well, yes.
Very off the time as well. Yeah. So Batman was created by Bob Kane and Bill Finger. Yeah, important.
I feel this was Bob Kane of Change a lot over the years, right? Yeah, considering he takes or well. Oh, but he'll recently. Yeah.
Up until Bill Finger finally got the credit he deserved. It was originally just Bob Kane who kind of took the idea. Because I mean, he created the idea of Batman, but Bill Finger's kind of the person who molded it in for what it is today. Yeah.
I mean, we'd have no back suit. We'd have no back and bill and a back cave and a robin if it wasn't for Bill Finger. Yeah. I agree with that.
And it's almost become a joke between me and you whenever we refer to anyone stealing an idea. We use the phrase pulling a Bob Kane. Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, he is responsible for Batman a lot of ways as well. I just think it's the way that he literally crapped all over Bob Kane. Yeah. That all over Bill Finger is what everyone has a problem with.
Yeah. But it's nice to see that now I think the first time he got credit on screen was it, Batman v Superman? It's an item movie. Thanks.
I think it was. So we do have Alfred in this. He first appeared in the Batman comic a few months prior to this series release. And it's generally thought that the writers of the series created him and then had him placed into the comics to match up with the serial, which I thought was interesting.
Although his original surname in the comic was Beagle, apparently. Yes. That wasn't changed until 1969. No.
This is also, I saw this as well, in nine. This is the first appearance of skinny Alfred as well. Yeah, he was in a little chubby fat guy. Yeah, originally.
He was a miserable chubby fat guy who's to drive them around everywhere. Yeah, really. In his first episode at least, because we're only talking about the first episode, we see him a couple of times, driving a car. He's painfully English.
Oh, yes. But we don't know too much about him. No. So you've seen all of it though.
Does that change? Does he have to do? No, not really. No.
He kind of just stays like as a mini side character who kind of just appears when Bruce mentions his name. Mm-hmm. He does bottles. Yeah, well done.
You can have that one. I'll ask all of the clue. Lewis Wilson is still the youngest actor to play Batman, and this would be my mum when I read this. He was 23 and he must have had a hard paper around this guy.
Yeah. He looks about 40. Well, I'll tell you what, Doug was proff to play Robin. He looks considerably older than him.
Yeah, and he's 16. I mean, what was going on in the war on? So I don't think it was the easiest of times. Yeah.
But let's just say that I was going to come up later, but there are numerous racial slurs used in this serial, although they were apparently edited out of the original home video release many years later. I'm sure they were. But I think the version is that we watched it on YouTube, although I do actually own a DVD of it. I'd be interested to know which version of it that is.
But the version on YouTube has it all put back. Yep, that's definitely. Definitely. And I don't think there's any changing the, let's just say the costume of some of the characters.
There isn't. No, no, no. We'll get to that. The original idea, however, was to have the Joker be Batman's nemesis in this serial, and he would have been played again by J.
Carol Nash. But things were changed to encourage patriotism because there was a war on it. Of course. So that's why we've got this rather than the Joker.
But I would have liked to have seen that. And you can see elements of leftovers from when the Joker was part of the script, because Dackers' lure is in a panel. Definitely. Yeah, so that's all.
And seeing J. Carol Nash, seeing pictures of him out of costume, I can kind of see him as a Joker in many ways. Definitely, yeah. He has that very Joker look to him with the kind of, you know, the slipbag here.
He's got kind of that villainous look to him. I think he would have played a good Joker. So there are lots of elements that we normally associate with Batman that are missing in this. Most notable is the Batman reel, because in this he just reminds a car.
Yeah, I even written down on my notes for later that the Batman reel looks awfully normal. It's a car. Yeah. Which mind you though, originally it was just a car.
Yeah, he just drives around. He just drove a red car. Yeah. Yeah.
But the Batman reel at this point in 43, I think actually had become part of the comics. Yeah. Yeah. But it wasn't obviously the Batman reel that you see today.
Yeah, I haven't got them. I need to kick out a car for this. I don't know. You could just stick some little wings on the back.
Oh, come on. Did you see the bats? We'll get to the bats. Oh yeah, so shall we crack on?
Do the nondescripty on would be a little chum. So we opened with the old Columbia logo and the credits over a great, I've got to say, it's a great looking batson. It's very obvious time, but it kind of would also work today. I think it's nice.
Yeah. Yeah, it's got like, you know, the, what's the word? It's got the face. Yeah.
I associate with comics from the 70s as well. And we get the title of episode one or chapter one as it's called, the electrical brain. All brains kind of electrical? Yeah, sure.
Yeah. But also, we get an eration, an explaining way, man. Although it's not called way man. It's just a massive mansion.
Yeah. And exactly who Batman is. And we get our first glimpse of the character. And it's an image that any comic book fan would recognize.
It's Batman's desk in the back of doing some bat brooding, right? I mean, to go on to the costume a little bit, it is probably, I'd say, the most comics accurate costume. Mm. Because I mean, you couldn't really deviate much from it, because I wasn't really much.
You could do that then. No, it's especially sometimes looks like it's made out of wool. That's true, yeah. But it's a bit thick in this.
Plus, yeah, the cowl and the floppy ears aren't exactly fitting. That's the problem that it has mostly, isn't it? Is the cowl, because yetes are a bit floppy. And sometimes it's not like the eyeballs line up with these eyes very well.
They're kind of drooped down a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of like average cosplay, isn't it?
Yeah. What you would see today. And Robin doesn't really wear a domino mask. He's got, he's kind of, it kind of looks like one of those, like, masquerade masks.
It is, yeah. It's very big. Yeah. As well.
It might as well have one that's going to hold up his face. Yeah, for it. No, this narration is 100% serious, right? But Batman 66 just ruined my palette, I think, because it just sounds tongue in cheek.
Yeah. And very earnest. And it's got that same kind of voice to it as well. Mm-hm.
The, you know, batman sitting in the back cave doing... Bat stuff. That stuff. I did like the way when he said batman.
Yeah. Yeah. It's batman. Yeah.
As if, you know, he's a real person. It's obviously, you know, he's not being batman. He's not being funny about batman. He's batman, look at him.
He's batman. Doing bat stuff. And we also have some bats flying around in the back cave. Yes.
Which is some bats flying around the back cave. It reminded me of Dracula. Over power movies. Yeah.
Very much. So we see his team make show up, Robin. And they, we get a montage of him, the smashing into rooms, they punch out some bad guys. And the writer goes on to tell us that they represent American youth, who love their country and are glad to fight for it.
Yeah. I wonder what time period this was in. Well, you know, it's apparently he's like American youth. Because if you didn't know that the guy playing batman was 23, as I say, you're thinking he was falling apart.
Yeah. So it's a bit strange and he's a bit on the nose as well. But I guess as I say, there was a war on and they want people. It's the GP 85-year celebration event.
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See your Jeep dealer for details. Well, to be all patriotic. Well, so these montage bits of batman Robin flying into buildings and punching people, let's just say there was no health and safety before. It's considering he literally leaps through the window.
I'm going to talk about the fight season, because they're crazy. Yeah. They did remind me again. I mean, you've got to say that the craitors of 60 carats.
Yeah, I think they took a lot of influence from this. Because the fight scenes definitely have that. The smashing through the windows and things like that. It's just missing the massive pow.
So the montage carries on and we see them leaping around from car to car. In one point and a little bit more fighting. And as you said about the fighting, this is what I love about these old serials, is that all the fight scenes look so uncorrographed. They just look like a group of people just going at each other.
They just fling themselves. It's like, it's like as if a kid had like a bunch of action figures and then just kind of like threw them at each other and pretended to punch them. But I mean, there are bits where you can clearly see that the punches do not connect to either of their faces. There are, but sometimes they do.
Yeah. That's the strange thing about it. I mean, they must have had some kind of plan, some kind of choreography. They're not like it.
They probably said, you jump over to this guy, punch him, throw him back, jump to the next guy and do the same thing. Pretty much. Yeah. Well, it was great.
Oh, yeah. It looks like a real fight. Yeah. It looks like a fight at school playground.
Yeah. Because you would be aware of it. So Batman calls Captain Arnold, who is, I suppose, our Commissioner Gordon standing in this. Why didn't use Commissioner Gordon that I've known?
I don't know, because I was going to bring this up later, but I think there's another character they call Dr. Gordon later on. There's a few doctors in it. Yeah.
I vividly remember someone mentioning the name Dr. Gordon. So I was like, if there is a doctor called, maybe that's why they changed to Captain Arnold. Yeah.
But he calls him Captain Arnold, and he tells him that he's wrapped up some bad guys for him. And so Batman really is working for the man in this. Yeah. It's kind of weird, because Batman's turned now into this.
We know him as this anti-hero anti-establishment character, I don't know. But I suppose, Batman, he was on the stage, even in the 60s, he was a deputy. Yeah, I mean, I guess you could say for the 40s, they kind of made a lot of superheroes. You know, these super, I mean, look at the people, obviously Superman and stuff.
Even characters like Batman and stuff, they were awfully patriotic back then, and like super, you know. They had to be there, didn't they? Yeah. Yeah.
Batman ties up the bad guys, and one of them pretty much says to him, well, you just wait until Dr. Tucker is like this. Yeah, as if he's a little kid, you say. And he's like, oh, wait until my dad hears about this or whatever.
What made me laugh is that during the opening narration, they talk about how Batman strikes fear into the art of criminal. They don't particularly find him. No. You know, it's not a known broad daylight, he's floppy.
Let's fight it well. Because, well, they did very easily give up through their boss' words. See, they did, they did. So in many ways, you could even say that Batman's interrogation tactics.
Well, they were staring at them. But it worked? You didn't have to threaten the monster and to squash their face under a wheel of a car or anything. Or throw them off a building.
No, exactly. Should Batman and Robin really be whipping off their masks in the car afterwards on the way out? Yeah, not really. Because I was thinking, do they get changed in the car?
Who drives the car? Because you can clearly see Batman get into the driver's seat. And as he's taking off his costume. So who's driving the car?
Is Robin like, put his hands on the pedals or something? Maybe he's so good that he can drive his knees. Maybe. You know.
And he's in the mirror, so it's probably not a shift. So it's probably just a automatic, yeah. It's interesting. Batman seems to have branded the two goons with a bat symbol on their foreheads.
Yeah, this feels awfully, uh, man versus Superman. Yeah. I wonder why that's not, I don't know. I mean, he doesn't brand them with, like, No, but it's the marks there, isn't it?
Yeah. So the branding in Superman is, but I'll be Superman. He's probably Snyder's more graphic interpretation of this, you know. Come on, you've given him too much credit.
You think he's seen these? Probably not. He's never had a comic, I think. He's flicked through it.
He's flicked through it. I can look at the panels. Mm-hmm. Bruce and Dick go to see Linda Page.
And he have Bruce plays up his play by image at all. Nice thought the same thing. I liked his particular Bruce Wayne. Um, it's kind of lighter in tone, but it suits the tone of this, doesn't it?
And he's instantly recognizable as the character of Bruce Wayne, I think. He reminded me a lot of the anime series. Yeah. I know the way he kind of, the way Kevin Comrade does, um, plays him.
And just the look as well with the suits of the 40s, where they're squirre and they're angular, you know. On the street, we get a cameo, don't we? Yes, we get a news picker boy who is played by, uh, uh, infamous Bob Kane. And he looks about 12.
Yeah, he doesn't look very old. What's going on with the age? I didn't recognize him at first until I went on IMDb and looked up some facts for this. And I saw that he played the newspaper boy and I was like, what?
I had to literally skim back and find that bit. And I looked at him for a good, like two minutes or so. I'm like, yeah, it is him. Did you not see the delete scene where he took his shirt off?
And I'm going to get the t-shirt where he said Batman created, Bob Kane under it. Oh, I must have missed that. Yeah. Yeah.
You need to go back and watch that. Yeah. Some goons have doped a Marty Warren, who is Linda's uncle. I don't know.
And Bruce, Linda and Dick give chase in the car with Alfred driving. Can I just say, does Dick go everywhere with them? Because I mean, he's kind of, Bruce is kind of on a date here and Dick's kind of just like third wheeling them the whole time. Well, he's responsible for him, isn't he?
Well, he's never going to have Alfred look after him while he's going on a date or something. Alfred can't bother with that. I mean, he's annoying, isn't he? Well, that's true.
He's exceptionally annoying as a character anyway. I find Dick. He's better when he's not going to the comics. But yeah, I mean, Alfred's got things to do.
Well, stand around the men off. Drive around and drive around. The driver round. The bad guys, they use a spray gadget on the car and it repaints the car as it's driving.
Yeah. And they have the license plate flip as well. Yeah, very bonding. Yeah.
30 years before. We then got to Little Tokyo. Now, I don't know whether Little Tokyo is a... Is it a real place in Gotham?
Yeah. I think it's meant to be like a template of like Chinatown. I'm kind of concerned about your book Tokyo then. Yeah.
Well, I don't know. And then the rate of them throws in some questionable language, which I won't repeat here. Yeah. I mean, I get it.
There was a war on it. But it kind of hits pretty hard today when you hear it. Yeah, it kind of hits you like hard. You kind of like do a double take.
You go, it's like, oh, because I was writing notes as a seamless plane and I heard it and I went, what? Yeah, I actually rewound it. No, I don't know what I know it. I think it would be a shame if...
No, it isn't right. I don't know. It would be a shame if this kind of stuff put you off from watching this because I think you have to remember the context of what was going on in the world when it happened. It isn't right.
But things were different right. But back then it didn't really matter because they were the enemy. They were the enemy, you know. And of course, things are different now.
But I think it would be a shame if you completely threw this out because of all this. Yeah. The goons take Uncle Warren to meet Dr. Dakar.
Is it Dakar? I think they pronounce it Dakar, but it's spelled D-A-K-A-R. Well, it's like side Dakar. Yeah.
And he's in his carnival-based hideout, which is obviously a leftover, as we said, from the Joker parts of the original script. And Dakar comes with more problems, let's just say, because he's meant to be Asian. Yeah, meant to be. Yeah.
And just say he took some of the leftover pills from you only live twice. Yeah, he's a bit of a chivalry. He borrowed some of the makeup from them. Yes, from them.
But he's representing the Axis powers in particular one, particular Axis power. And let's leave it there. And not get involved because it's the best step away. He wants Warren to work with his cabal to create his new world order, which will pop up in late-scaptured American movies, apparently.
That was the original title. Mm. Oh, they've changed it. They've changed it.
They've braved new wealth. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Too delicate, too dangerous. But Warren says that he is a true American, and he tells him to go do one.
On words of that effect. Yeah. But it's made plain to him that if he doesn't agree, then he'll turn him into a zombie. Yes, a zombie.
Yeah. This is a very comic booky plot. Well, yeah. I mean, I'm fine with it, though.
Yeah, no, it doesn't take away from it. It just feels like an issue of a comic book. It's a little bit hard to take when they actually use the word zombie because it just feels so... I suppose in the 1940s, the zombie was something completely different to what we got because we haven't even that George Romero's not a little dead-less plot.
So I think all we'd had was something like white zombie, which was a Bell and Gozi movie at that point. Yeah. Which is very different than the Romero's zombie. So it just kind of feels a bit...
It took me out of it for a second using the word zombie. But it's fine. Waras still says no, and he's taken to Daka's lab, which apparently some of the equipment in this lab were used in Brida Frankistan. Oh, no.
And then also in Young Frankistan in 1974 as well. So some of this stuff was still knocking around. Yeah. And all those years later.
They must have kept it somewhere. Well, I would imagine that they're in the universal vault playing things like that. Daka gives War in a drug and then gives him a slap. And then he spills his guts.
Yeah. He's not very... He doesn't even resist. Well, he has rubbed it.
Well, this is true. You know. If he went he slapped him. He's just laughing once.
He's laughing a few times as well. And he was a proper slap. You're going the old back out. He did.
Yeah. Daka needs to steal... Is it radio or eradium? I think it's eradium.
OK. And he's going to use it in his new secret weapon, which is a laser weapon gun thing. Yeah. I was going to say this gun kind of reminds me of the liquidisation gun in the Batman movie.
Yeah. And West one. Yeah. I can see that.
Yeah. Definitely. And what he does is because he demonstrates it. He turns...
Is it supposed to be metal that thing that he brings out? Or it's like a slab, isn't it? Or something? I think it's like...
So annoying. And it just turns it into like crumbly dust. Sand thing, doesn't it? Back at Linda's office, they still haven't heard from a cool warren.
And the goons and a zombie go to steal the eradium. And wouldn't you know it? It's right. Well, Linda, Bruce and Dick are at.
How convenient. It is indeed. Bruce and Dick see them across the road, literally, seeing them across the road. And they go and change into the costumes in the car.
After Zoom. Yeah. They just put the roof of the car up and Alfred's in the front. Not looking in the mirror.
No. No. He's saying, Oh, no. Don't be back up.
I'm getting my word. Hey. Beagle. So now's a good time.
As you said, the costumes... For a first go around trying to adapt these characters into live action. Not bad. Not bad.
Yeah, we talked about the shortcomings already, but... I like them. I like them. The goons get disturbed.
And the zombie attacks a guy as the goons steal the eradium. Or eradium. That seems to be just keeping a safe in the wall. Is that right?
No, is it like lying a safe? Is it like, no suits? Not enough. They know exactly where it is as well.
Almost as if like they've been there before. Well, Dr. Ducker, he's learning. He's watching everything, isn't he?
Yeah, he's got some power. Yeah, he's got like invisible cameras. Conveniently where the actual camera is when they were shooting. Isn't it supposed to be something that you've implanted into the zombies eyes or something?
But then we don't see anyone stood there. You're thinking about it. Don't think about it. Yeah.
Meanwhile, Batman and Robin climbed down the side of the building. And this, again, reminded me a lot of 60 Batman. They smashed the window and they give chase to the goons. The goons use their laser weapon fire at Batman and Robin.
And by this point, I'm looking at the time and there's literally like about two minutes left of this. Yeah. And I'm thinking, surely we're building towards it. Because everything was on a cliffhanger.
But I can't see where the cliffhanger is going to be. I actually thought it was going to be when Batman and Robin just docked down behind the chimney and then they blow the chimney off. But somebody would get away from that. They have a fight on the rooftop while in the course for health in the police.
And Batman looks to be in a tight squeeze. Yeah, this is wild on here, isn't it? Yeah, this is very 60s. They've always put them in a death trap at the end of an episode.
Mm-hmm. No giant typewriter. Or like strapped to a machine that drags on along for their son doing it. Yeah.
Missoasting. Supreme of a bag. Batman reads Batman too. Got to have a big giant.
Brave and Bold. Oh, big giant chopping board. Can you imagine that? That'd be great.
Gillotine. When I paper Gillinty's built three times the size. I'm amazing. And Dr.
Dachos, he said he's watching everything on his somehow close circuit TV. Is it zombie sounding? I can actually throw himself off the edge of the roof for some bizarre reason. But he's still watching this.
This is heavy stuff for a kid's serial. It is. Some casual suicides. It is.
It's fine. Promoting suicide. It was a fun for the whole family, of course. Of course.
And then the goons throw Batman over the edge of the roof. And he falls to his doom seemingly. With the escape, find out in chapter two, which we aren't reviewing. Same bat cinema, same bat cinema.
And that is the end of the Batman episode one from 1943. So James, what did you think of Batman? Well, it was something. Is it a bad idea?
I could get done by it. That was something. It's a good first attempt for adapting a comic book. I will say though, there's a conceit lack of gadgets in this from both Batman and Robin.
But you could say that that's because of budget restraints or stuff they couldn't do. No, you've watched the whole list. There must be some gadgets somewhere. I think the most we ever get is a radio and a rope.
Right. So which, I mean, they do use the rope in this. Well, there was a war on rationing. He had to deliver out his bat rings.
Some of the soldiers. Oh, yeah. Can you imagine that? On the front line.
The front line's got a box. He's just going, take your bat rings. Oh, not the bat shirt repellent. You can't have that one.
Man, you're in a desert. Well, it's almost done. You know, steam and steam. Storming Normandy.
Oh, yeah, exactly. I mean, the plot obviously seconds later on. And obviously, as you can guess, Batman doesn't meet his demise in the first episode. It's a bit sharp, wouldn't it?
Yeah. The Batman dies in episode one. Not in the rest of it. Just robbing on his own.
Yeah. But they still call it Batman. Just wait for Alfred to make a tea. But yeah, I'd say it was.
I hit. I hit. That was the way you're looking for, right? You must have liked it because you went on and watched the whole thing.
You know, I can see some people today with our problems with this. Whether it's the dodgy racial stuff. Or even like the click way that the actors delivered their lines. I mean, it's very 1940.
Yeah. See, you know what I'm saying? And plus, a big thing for people nowadays is, it's in black and white. Yeah.
So a lot of people get turned off by that. Yeah, I mean, you're, you're, I, it doesn't matter. You're an anomaly. Yeah.
Yeah. I'm, I'm, I break the cycle. You do. I mean, I've seen Oscar R2 for God's sake.
Yeah. It's like nothing can get any more thinking than that. Yeah. You can't come from the alphabet you've seen because there is a little bit of colour in that.