138. Sean Pessarra on sustainable farming and Ben Lilliston on pro small-scale farming policy during COVID-19

Sean Pessarra, of Heifer Ranch, and Ben Lilliston, of the Institute of Agriculture and Trade Policy, talk with Dani about the impact of coronavirus on sustainable farming and the policy implications of the current government relief bills. While you're listening, subscribe, rate, and review the show; it would mean the world to us to have your feedback. You can listen to "Food Talk with Dani Nierenberg" wherever you consume your podcasts.