You don't remember him from the first movie and you're sure not gonna remember him from this one the creep is back this week on King me It's good to the last gasp creep show to King baby. Yeah, baby. Oh my god that tagline. I should have I'm DB gave me three to pick from it I pick the most tongue twisting one of them.
Jeez. I didn't know I had a speech impediment before tonight. I sure do now Welcome to King me. I'm Dan Gagliardi.
I'm Rob Avon and this week we're talking about creep show two two Yeah, let's figure out how stretch it to more than one syllable. Yeah 1987 directed by some shit for brains I'm not ready to tell you directed by Michael gornick. I was gonna say it written by Stephen King George or by written by George Romero It is written by it's a screenplay credit It's the sequel to the first creep show and if you haven't seen either of them, these are anthology movies Yeah, there's no there's nothing connecting any of them. No, even though they scream magazine really Yeah, which they treat the guy who delivers the magazines the creep as though he were a staple of these move like a fan favorite Yeah, oh you remember him, right?
No, no, I don't because in the first one it's more of a cryptkeeper look and fella Yes, I think that's the only thing that they were trying to do here is like try and capitalize create their own cryptkeeper. Yeah, wow cryptkeeper Have you ever seen a tails from crypt no TV show? No, I haven't okay it good to watch yeah, it's it is good It's like it anthology TV show cryptkeeper does his little like the creep in here. He's like a little inner He's like one of those I've seen there's like a tradition of that.
He's like an elvira. Yes. Yeah, but the weirdest thing I find about the tails from a crypt is that they're all they all have like big name stars in them It's such a weird thing because it's a like how big I mean like Arnold Schwarzenegger's in one of them really in like but like post This is breaking he's like he's already full shorts and anger. Yeah, like this is no joke.
I'm like really weird. It's very strange There's a every ever get Richard Rico for one of them. I feel like I have to write a time for 10 boys definitely in one Yeah, like there are people in all of these episodes. It's so it's very strange stuff is it good It is good there because it's an ideology It's you know, there are others or you know some are better than others, but it's it is good It's it's but it's so weird like it was a TV show on HBO in the late 80s early 90s for like before HBO What it was before TV what it was what it was like cable and it was slamming it.
Yeah, but maybe that's kind of just where that starts Like this TV being good. Yeah, cuz I mean HBO. I guess is at the forefront. Well, it's not TV Okay, let's just be upfront about that that'd be like saying the TBS is not there in the home box office That's exactly what I mean.
Okay. I don't know is that where that starts with tails from the crypt. It's yeah Also, I guess how Jeffrey Tambor's relationship with HBO starts to it's interesting. Yeah, it's very it's weird stuff To go back and watch another one here like I can't believe this actually happened Well, that's like every time a clip from was it the red shoe diaries pops up into my life.
Yeah, yeah, I'm like the company Yeah, you saw see a little minx. Yeah, that's David. That's the same character as the X wild David Duke. Yeah, yeah Different guy He's just playing Mulder when he's off duty.
Oh man. Oh, he Mulder is reading really racy letters You know what if he endorsed me for president. I honestly don't know enough about him to make a That's the right guy, right David. You got me.
No David Duke. Oh, okay. Okay guy. Yeah, dude Is the yeah the KK that's way too casual away to refer to him.
Yeah, he's that guy. Oh, yeah He's the worst guy. Yeah, okay. Oh one of for sure.
He's a real creep show. He's in the top three. He's He makes the top three right. Yeah, all right.
Absolutely. So yeah, he's a creep show. We're talking creep show two COO Nope, I'm disappointed that this wasn't this is before the era where they started stylizing movie titles with the numbers Yeah, like you could totally swap that as out for you and you'd have a much better movie. It was a better time Well, let's start let's talk about I guess the structural difference between this one and the first one Okay, the first one has five stories.
Yes, this one has three Yeah, but I will say that probably the ratio of good to bad is about the same it is from now It's weird because I felt like uh, they're they're less stories in this but they move I thought they moved fast the second one especially. Yeah, yeah, the third one is is don't shit Yeah, that's really bad and this is like a little thing But I had not seen this movie this week. No, you're becoming a real trend with this show is that you have not seen these movies It's weird because I was the one who suggested we do it but um, yeah, it's on you saying one thing Yeah, I was like, oh, I'd love to see more of these and I want to see them all I was wrong. Yeah, so um What was I saying?
Do you think Best guess you were talking about how you hadn't seen this movie Yeah, let's unpack that Well, okay. I was okay. I remember what I was gonna say. Sorry.
All right, it'll be quick Okay, I was just gonna say I haven't seen this movie and looking at the opening credits They make a point of saying and so and so as the hitchhiker Yeah, you know like they they bill it like it's gonna be the big thing like this is the story you're gonna remember Yeah, it's not it's not that yeah, I feel like anthology movies They have to build like you you don't frontload the anthology with all the good stuff and then sort of peter off But I don't know I I see I saw this movie when I was a kid um a little kid a little kid just a little boy Um, I know when I was a kid there was a channel. We didn't have cable. Okay. We had uh just like the regular like one through 12 or 13 or whatever All right, grandpa.
Oh, I know When I and it was a better time and everybody knew their place. No everyone knew their bathroom Uh, it was really topical. Oh, nothing's changed. Huh.
Wow. You just shift the hate from one group to another and then go to a little from the old group Yeah, well, this is dark It was way darker than this movie. No, that's not true. There's a moment in this movie That's I think we talked about it before we started very dark really upsetting.
Well, okay. Yeah, okay So but on um channel 11 in the new jersey, New York area was wpi x 11 and they every 11 Yeah, it's it's kind of back. It's a ghost of its former. Yeah, the movies that they played it was always like action movies There's a lot of shorts and eggar and and cologne and all those like sort of big 80s action movies Jean Claude's yes Yes, your your blood sports your segulls your Um, but it's like a lot of horror movies do and this was one of them this and the first one were on I feel like all the time Um, so I'd seen this before and I felt like at the time at the time I I thought it was a scary movie What scared you the most was it when it was a raft by far is the raft well the raft holds up Yeah, I as an adult man was upset by the raft.
Yeah, that's a great fucking thing. It's good. It's like objectively good It's not even good in comparison to the other two. It's I would know I would recommend that to a friend Um, so I don't know I going into this movie watching this now.
I sort of feel I there's even though I hate it There's like a bit of a nostalgic feeling. Yeah, so I kind of even did you full-on hate it No, do you say you hate it? No, what'd you say? Well, I've headphones on I don't think I said I hated it.
Oh, no. I hate nostalgia. Oh, okay. All right.
Yeah, yeah, you just no No, no, I don't worry about the no my brain your brain has snapped yes Um, so there's like a bit of a nostalgic thing to go along with this which is why like the first story is okay with me You know I am not okay with that. Sorry like it does not hold up whatsoever, but it's like especially now Good. We'll get we'll talk about the same reason that I'm like I have mixed feelings about woody allen instead of only monster feelings No, I only have monster feelings for audio. Yeah, you only getting all I like it's it's smudged.
It's it's yeah, that's the thing like it's all about love So everything is smudged by that. Yeah, I don't understand why anyone is still going to bathroom in hat and like first of all Not that good to begin with right second of all Oh boy. No No for the listeners Dan. It could not be tugging on his collar more.
Oh, I ripped my just ripping his collar off We have a tailor on standby for all of these episodes. He's he's on the tainer. Yeah He's waiting in the wings just just a run. I don't know why we told me could sit in whenever he wants He's just I don't know jazepi.
I don't know what your deal is man. Oh, this is Stupid I was just gonna let it be implied. I'm what the listener couldn't see is that you had him tip his hat to us Rob as jazepi he just it was transformative when I when I do a I have to do the hat thing too. Sorry So, um, let's let's what were you guys say no no, let's stop recording We can we can get into these stories.
We want to talk about the the intro part first. Yeah, oh, yeah Let's let's do talk about the intro. Yeah, I I was reminded okay Let's talk about I guess let's just quickly describe what happens because yeah, not I would imagine not everyone has seen this movie Yeah, I feel like this is a deeper cut. Yeah, um, so the movie starts with an old-timey wagon rolling through a modern town.
Yeah, and uh The the back of the truck opens and well a kid rolls up on a two-wheeler. Yeah, it's a bicycle A bicycle. Yeah, you know what motorcycle enthusiasts don't like when you call them two wheelers. That's pretty cool to a wheeler You got their dude.
Yeah, they're there for for such rebels very touchy. Yeah, so movie starts this kid rolls up on a two-wheeler And he's there because he wants the new issue of creep show. Yeah, he wants not just a new one He wants the first one one and the the delivery man is an old goblin named the creep who Um also gets his name. Yeah, also gets build kind of his like This this guy that we love already.
Yeah, and he was not in the first movie He was not in the first movie if you go back and listen to our creep show one episode Now available in 19 doesn't sound cloud. Yeah, you'll find that it's on in there I think that what they were trying to do here was a crit keeper thing I think they were they were like oh, we made the first one and fuck we didn't put the creeper in there We should've done that but like the thing is there was that guy and he was a generic looking kind of zombie guy He's still on the magazine cover for this movie. Uh that like decaying guy flies up in the window, right? They could have just used him.
Yeah, but I don't know I feel like they they wanted with the second movie they They wanted to They wanted more movies after this. Yeah, they're like we can we can branch out here We can make this the whole franchise. We can we can keep going especially in the 80s horror movies I feel like they had their yeah, they were there was time in the 80s like you could you could just make Uh friday the 13th movie and just like you follow a formula It's dirt cheap and we put it out right that was the and with everything across the board And now that people have figured out how to like tell stories well. Yeah consistently Like horror movies are good again.
It's like another horror boom. Oh, yeah, you know that it was a thing in the 80s Like if you watch uh fucking what's the one that we like it follows? Yeah, the whole thing is an homage to 80s horror movies It is like that's how much of an impact those movies had the soundtrack is it's very 80s. Yeah, it's great Yeah, I'm just saying they could use that character design and I think the reason they didn't is because they couldn't afford to Well, okay, that's here's a weird thing that happens Which I don't I don't know why they do this but you got little billy on the the bicycle waiting for the new magazine the new creep show And the creeper he's in the back of the truck.
He's thrown out like like a bundle of these new magazines Yeah, and he's being he's kind of creepy. Yeah, he's got a weird face He looks honestly it evoked for me like a power Rangers villain like a mighty morphin power Rangers villain or an rl Stein goosebumps the tv series kind of thing his his makeup all the prosthetics. It's dog shit It's heavy. There's it's heavy.
It's uh tom savenie who's who plays the creeper who's he's like a big name in horror movies and uh And like special effects and stunts and shit like what else might our listeners know from uh, he was Prominently featured in from dust tilde on okay. Have you seen that? No, oh really? I know right?
Oh, should we pause? Yeah, all right hit pause and then this will be a three and a half hour podcast. I'll just leave it rolling Is that the one where Selma hike it's sexy with a snake? Yes.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah I'm glad that happened. Yeah, but okay, so he's from dust tilde he plays the character's name is sex machine And he actually robert reverb he gets those assault time where he makes impossible guns out of like sexy bits So like in the the last machete movie the woman the spanish woman from modern family. What's your name?
So yeah, she had like a bra that that was like a machine gun. Oh like the fembats and awesome powers Exactly. Okay, and danny trejo's penis is a big machete. Well, see see Well, actually tom savenis in the in the movie he has a gun penis thing going on where you like lift this cod piece There's a barrel and two like revolving chambers tried to be wrong But you were like pretty yeah The only way I could have been closer while still like holding to what I was saying originally was if it said it was a musket Yeah, yeah, oh man, that's so that's some of that's who tansavani is he's also been in two weeks.
Yeah, yeah, yeah That's just like kind of fucker this guy No, typecast much as the creep me thinks He's like he's been harm all kinds of harm moves. He was in dawn of the dead like the original dawn of the dead He was one of when he was like the lead biker guy. He's legit So he has experience working with actors on two wheels. Yes.
Okay, exactly. So he throws out the News, but then we're getting here here then turns animated as it did in the first one Yeah, but I thought it was so strange. It could not have been cheaper to do the animation in between I mean like to transition out of live action in tan mace. Yeah.
Yeah, um, but here's the thing Their animation budget clearly very low that like last sequence with the venous fly trap Yeah, it was shoddily done. Yeah, it was like Yeah, like an LSD nightmare like facial features were like kind of growing and shrinking as people type it was I didn't like it any bad vibes. You know, it was kind of weird It was like uh, they used to do this in like 70s animated movies like heavy metal or something It was like rotoscope. I don't frick the cat is another one which is like it's like an x-rated uh, pulled up Yeah, I like frick it but it because I'm creep.
Yeah, you're like creep. Um, my two favorite movies while I would say frick the cat and zootopia and creep Yeah, so good zootopia I like to fuck animals. What's the big deal? What up?
Yeah, I like to be an animal and fuck other animals that also be people big deal. Okay, that's a That's my new character teamster. Who's a furry Big deal. So what I'm a fox guy.
What do you want sucking down a cigar? I'm like, hey, what's the fucking hub of I'm a fox who's into rabbits. I'm gonna fuck this skunk over here Oh, yeah, let me get a slice of that badger pussy Let me put my pig pig in young In the bit that already went on too long. Yeah, all right.
So whatever it goes on maybe like frimton went electric. Yeah, or wait What if friend in came alive? That's right I'm more of a I'm more of a hip hop guy sure. I'm not I'm not anything guy.
Yeah, I don't know if anybody who's listening knows this but Dan is black I'm not I'm not that there's anything wrong with that. It's hot in here That's the kind of thing that gets you written about on vox.com Uh, you want to get into the first story now? What you mean 20 minutes in yeah, why not first story old chief wooden head? Oh, man.
All right So this story is racist racist as we just means as a Smoke shop Indian and the reason that's true is because it stars a smoke shop indian. Yeah, well, okay It stars it hold on george kennedy who recently passed away rest in peace. Yeah, and February he just passed away You know george kennedy from cool hand luke. That's right.
He's uh, he's a big buddy. He has a big buddy. Yeah I love him in that. Yeah, I love that movie.
The movie's fantastic. Yeah, honestly I might just I don't know. I think I might just love hard boiled eggs And imprisonment. Yeah, no and the justice and our broken justice.
Yeah, um So the it starts off with george kennedy and it is dorothy le moor who it was actually she's she's older I think we all know who dorothy le moor is um road to bali the favorite brunette Road to morocca. She's always traveling road movies. She's always in she's in the road She's uh, she's an old timey film. She really is if you look on her imdb page It looks like a stock like if you went on geddy images.
Yeah search old timey Uh starlet it's right. She in the movie she looks like my my nana Okay, if you go on imdb and check her out. She's it's the black and white It's the that thing that women did where they part it they had a hard their husbands hard part down the middle. Yeah Um, it looks painted on her head.
Yeah, but you know she was all the time a section on there Do you think her real name was le moor? Yeah, probably right? Come on. No from now on you dorothy le moor said a fat man at the time.
She's sucking down a stowie No, by the way, do you like fucking animals? Yeah The eternal teamster furry same teamster Same team same teamster different day. That's a t-shirt. We got our first t-shirt Hey, you like uh, you like fucking animals or what if it says same teamster different day But then the graphic is just like one fox person bent over and another fox person boning him or her from behind Yeah from what I understand about the furry community.
You want to you want to keep it inner species You want to sure it would be weird if you didn't yeah, yeah, you want to keep it mixed, you know That feels like a weird manifestation of homophobia Uh, yeah, all right. Well, I mean we'll get more into it on the furcast Right or other podcast the furcast yeah. Yeah, so check that out next week when our guest will be a dolphin The entire cast of the island of dr. Mooro Um, we got killmer She's so uh darothy le moor as martha She uh martha is married to george canadaes ray and ray is outside.
He's he's painting Uh some war paint on the wooden indian outside of more general. Yeah, the racism had faded off It was 1987. It was a different day barely Wasn't even that different at time. I feel like it was slightly I know it was way more acceptable.
I just mean it wasn't that long ago. No. Yeah, it's it's weird because Now as a grown person. I feel you can say it.
We're grown up. I'm a big boy. I'm a big big boy I like smoke shop indians. That's a weird thing.
I see him sometimes. Yeah. No, they still have him It's but it's a straight like what the fuck is he doing there? Like why why that?
Why that? Yeah, why did that stick? Yeah, um, but then in 1987 We didn't give a fuck about anything and rewatching these like older movies that I haven't seen in years All of these like racist overtones and sexist overtones, especially in we'll get to it, but in the second one It's very oh my god. Yeah.
Yeah, maybe that was the scariest thing about that one. Yeah, it's so fucking I it's so dark I but like but it's so weird because like at the time I think nothing of it. Nothing of it because that whole sequence we might as well say what happens. No, let's wait on it Okay, we got time.
We're only a half hour into the show. Yeah, look it Um, so George Kennedy and his wife Martha. They own like a general store in town in a ghost town It's basically ghost town. It's all it's completely rundown.
Like David get his heart. No Adam Lambert's heart. It's a ghost town. I don't mind.
Don't Yeah, it's a ghost town. That reference. It's a song. Okay, it's very bad I'll take your word for it So they run the general store and his wife is basically saying like we should really close up shop.
This town is dead and we don't There's nothing for us. It's a zero horse town. Yeah, if we don't even have a fucking horse. The horse died What are we still doing here?
Right. Well, how are we gonna leave? George Kennedy basically says like this general store gave us an opportunity to buy our own house It put the girls through school Um, we built a life based on this general store and uh, we've taken so much from the town in profits and whatever That it would be it would be awful for us to just leave just cut our losses and leave right now when they need us Really like it's a very I found it very sweet. Actually, it's very sweet, but like kind of extraneous still thing Well, which is sad.
Well, I think it's not I don't think it's extraneous because of what happens to them next Because I think they they really crank up the the tenderness of these two older people So that when these three assholes Like just break into the store and they're like give me everything you have right. Oh man. I didn't even feel the emotional weight of that Yeah, I'm a bad bad viewer So okay, so we have these two this older couple that runs a general store and they their store gets broken into by hoodlems By hoodlems two white guys and a third white guy in brown face. Yeah, okay So we'll go in some sort of the one guy that keep on rich boy and he comes from I guess a good family And they show sounds spring nice.
Yeah, and they this parents bought him a firebird and that is like that is the shit You guys so impure like everybody's like no they call him rich boy because he has a firebird then there's also uh fat So oh yeah, which is exactly how he is credited weirdly credit is fat. So number one They only fat. Yeah, but he with fat so they he really cranks it up. He's like So I think fat so should be our townie profile you think so can you think of anyone better?
He's the most townie. He does that thing that Stephen King town He's often do where they plot down in front of a tv and enjoy something stupid. Yeah like stupid in air quotes, right? He's an oh that hurts my parts guy.
Yeah, yeah, no he right during the break-in here when they're just like they're not even going for money They're just going for stuff in the general store. They're just filling bags with like food and like fireworks And he's like he's drinking like diet Pepsi and like slamming down like Twinkies and it's just It's a subtle robbery. Yeah, really laying it on thick and then there's Sam white moon played by Holt's Colony colony Either way what you're probably gathering from that is he's an Irish man and not an Native American So he he is completely tan with very long black hair and piercing blue eyes. Yeah, right blue He he's been in the guy.
It's so weird because I I saw rewatching this. I'm like, I recognize that guy. He's a real he's a guy He's like an actor. He was in fight club.
He was in three kings. He's been in other stuff Yeah, he's not like he's not a main star or anything, but he gets work. Yeah and in decent movies Yes, so to my shock. He is playing an a American was it his first role.
It's his first film role. Okay. Good. So good Let's talk about him though white moon Sam white moon.
Yeah, his whole deal. He has like this beautiful black hair. Yeah, and I use beautiful There's an asterisk at the end of that because it's it's a cheap wig. Yeah a cheap cheap wig like a like a spirit Halloween black wig Yeah, a witch's wig.
Yeah, it's a little part. There's I mean there's see the tag This like I said before like I feel like all these stories move very fast But there's a part where he brings up Samson and Delilah. Yeah, so yeah, and his name is Sam. Yeah, um, which you're like, all right I got it.
You could have just not said that and just trusted me a little bit There was there were a couple lines. I pulled two lines from Sam white moon So there was this one where during the robbery. He's like he's trying to move everything along He tells the wife to go get her purse or else and it's this right here Move lady. I'm gonna flow off your old man's aqua.
She's What are aqua budgees? It's balls? Wave us? I don't know.
I thought that was very strange because I don't know what he's saying Did you try with subtitles? I didn't even occur to me. I honestly I was so fucking this movie just It washed over me like a garbage bag monster in a lake. Okay, another one just real quick during the robbery Everything source slows down and Sam white moon finds a there's a um, uh, what's it called with the photo booth?
Yeah photo booth. Oh, right? So he sit down in the photo booth and he is just admiring himself and there's there's this They gotta make me a movie star. Hey as soon as I see this here, they're gonna say Sam Get over here.
Get in front of these cameras There's a hundred million women out there. Just waiting to run that hair between their legs That's it I can think of nothing more disgusting right then running his fake hair Like the feeling that like wig hair like I don't have a pussy. I don't I simply don't have one bro, but like Thank you. I which is to say I do have balls, but I don't have a penis Yeah Um without without a vagina, I can't say for sure But like if you've ever gotten like a long hair in your butt cracking it to pull it out.
Yeah, you know what I'm talking about Yeah, that's weird that I know what you're talking about. Yeah, I guess it's not that weird The feeling super weird. Yeah, it's very bad and no woman would ever want to do that not even one in 100 million women I'd be like yes, rubber. Although I don't know if there's room in this world for furries surely surely there must be someone out there for I heard for us for waiting so long to take cheap shots at furries.
I think you're far into the show. I heard a story You know Michael Brooker. Yeah, right? You know Michael Brooker?
He's Henry portrait of serial killer. He's in mall rats. He's the Yeah, another ball guy. Yeah, yeah, another ball guy There's a there's a story about what his like sort of sexual thing is and he wants that he wants to have women Put hot oil in their hair and sort of like I'm gonna say whip, but it's not like a pain thing But like hot oil in the hair and like whip him with the hair We have I'm gonna you're gonna put it all in.
I'm gonna pull your mic down for the rest of the episode Wait, is this what that was too far? No, I was just like in my head There was a super cut of all the times we've talked about like fucking kids and shit That comes up a lot on the show but to be fair, it's almost a thrust upon us. There's got to be a better way My point is uh, it's not that he's trying to stick his pig in that kid You know My past was what it was Anyway, anyway, let's let's breeze through this. Well, the last one's gonna take five seconds I know it's gonna be both hated.
Yeah, but okay, so what ends up happening is Sam white moon shoots Martha the wife and then and then the husband George, George Hannity shoots him dead And they leave and they're like we're heading to hollywood and you know fuck this this no people let's try to get in front of cameras Yeah, it's crazy but what happens is the wooden chief out in front of the the general story Yes comes to life comes to life because they stole some turquoise jewelry that his uncle had given the white couple Yeah in an act of deference, which there's a lot of shit going on. This movie. Yeah, he presents George Jones it is the most Like new mexico bullshit jewelry. Yeah, it's all turquoise It's all turquoise and like they're like these are priceless but again 1987 you're like those might be priceless.
I don't know much about that culture. What are those jewels like? I don't know now everybody's like that's some bullshit. That's those are because he also gives that long speech about just like my people Yeah, huh in that voice.
I bet that guy's not a name american probably Italian But yeah, Sam white moon he takes that stuff back He's like this is worth $10,000 if if that whole pouch of stuff Sam It's worth $10 at all, you know You could get that for 20 at a grand Canyon gift shop Yes, but if you were anywhere less of a tourist attraction, right? You're looking at 10 times so Sam says all right everybody pack up your shit and then we're heading to Hollywood getting the firebird baby Yeah, and first we go to fat-sos trailer our first kill and no the old couple was our first kill Martha Martha's our first kill by Martha see it see on the other side But In the trailer he's watching Cisco kid Which is weird because that pops up a bunch in this movie the whole thing they tried to do a cat-side thing Yeah, they so he's watching Cisco kid and he's eating cheetos or some bullshit And then out of nowhere he gets like shot with an arrow four arrows I think and then like bam bam right a few arrows like one through his beer can like his toys like can honestly I kind of like that. How'd you feel about fat-s like you think he's a real dummy because I want to tell you in real life Doctor doctor fat so he didn't doctor fat so excuse me. We need a fat doctor down on three I can't do surgery with all this Dorito dust on my hands.
He's a he's a doctor of lard Blindsided me That's great. I love that. Oh He's actually he's like a psychiatrist or psychologist. I'm not sure but one of them, uh, but doctor He's a fucking doctor PhD.
Yeah, so he gets shot with a bunch of arrows then rich rich rich boy rich boy He catches his things and he goes out to his car which has been destroyed with a bunch of hash it marks And we see it it's only in silhouette. There's a shadow that's cast and which is stupid because at this point you've seen the entire indian Right. We know what's happening. Yeah, we know exactly what's happening Like even if we knew what was happening, but all you saw was like the arrows and shit like fine Right, but before we see any of that there's that shot of the I'm just gonna say indian because because i was a racist to be a native american Don't are you gonna high road me on the fucking fine?
So I was trying to I I'm so racist. I didn't even know I can't spot the difference when other people say all right Anyway, uh, yeah the big wooden indian, uh, like the way I said that felt like I was mad at their people You're not doing my best here. Yeah. I'll like an old chief wouldn't end Yeah, that's probably more.
It's pretty bad. Yeah, okay Anyway, the first thing you see is him like come to life and let out a big roar. Oh, that's true And then they do like call it a work right. Oh my god.
That's what it was wasn't it? Yeah, fuck so the chief he he when he comes by rich boy's house he he chops up his firebird and then rich boy's like and this wooden Indian sneaks up behind him with a tomahawk and just just hatches him he just cuts him up and leaves him on the hood of his car His parents are inside. Yeah horrific. That is that's pretty upsetting.
That's steeply upsetting Um, but then we get sure fat stuff's got nothing to live for he's fat He's fat. He lives in a trailer because he's fat even if he has parents. They're probably fat too So it doesn't matter what a fat fat fat is jesus christ And then we get the same white moon's house and he sees the chief Come through the door and he's like you ain't real man. No way you're real and which is a You know old gambit.
Yeah, not not like you don't scare me. You're made of wood right not um say you don't scare me I'm a man and I can run away from you. Yeah, simply I'm looking at you You you burst into my house and yet you are not right And then he hides in the bathroom and then the the chief pull like breaks through the wall grabs his hair the hair that we've been like Hammered over the head with yeah, yeah, right. He can't stop talking about it His name is sammy brought up samsung and chief scalps him And the next day his uncle comes by and he just comes by the general store outside the store where he should be but in his hand Is a human scalp a human scalp.
Yeah, and that's that's how it ends. Yeah, that's where we leave off Good thing we don't have to see any of the loved ones those are grizzly murders It's it's pretty rough stuff. Yeah, but then then we get to the good story the raft This is my favorite one by far. Yeah by miles.
Yeah. This is the shining moment The this whole story is really good. I think I really well except for one little yeah, but the story itself is great I said this to you. This might be the first time I was genuinely scared watching one of these movies.
Oh, that's just like upset Yeah, that's great. Yeah, right. Yeah, that's fine. We have yeah I've actually I've wanted to track that because so far these mostly been movies that I've seen Um, so they don't have like much effect and I want to see like I want to actually I want to genuinely be scared by one of these Yeah, you know like I mean I would not I would not go so far as to say I was scared by this movie No, no, but like something in that moment definitely Fuck to me up.
Yeah, there's some suffering. Yeah, so we get a group of teens right horny teens Two guys two girls they're on a road trip one one guys like clearly be jock And then there's another guy who's kind of a nerd he says he's pre-med which makes him the nerd but he's still quite jocky He's lean. Yeah, he's like a nerd but he also does rose crew and he's the least cool cool guy Yeah, he's the cool guy who gets like bees in his honor classes Yeah, they're all smoking pot in the in the car, which is what you called it back then you were smoking pot Still call it that I mean sure you call yours a Prius because you it's all you can talk about frankly Yeah, you've really changed. Yeah, the world the gas model your baby.
No, it's a great car I love that car. I want for myself. So they're on a road trip and they pull over They're like they're just saying like last you know a couple weeks ago We were out here and I saw this raft and we should go hang out We should go out on this lake and just hang out on the raft and then we can smoke pot and have sex all of us all of us on this I don't know eight by eight definitely yeah It tops It's frank, I'll be honest and say it's too small for two couples to have sex on Yeah, I mean unless all four people are having sex with each other and then some sort of dog pile And then we're back to furries wrapping it all around But just real quick the so we were talking about sis go kid before like everybody that died in the well Fatso rich boy and sam white moon they all were somehow related to sis go kid like that fatso was watching sis go Rich boy's parents were watching sis go and I think same white moon was maybe like also watching or something. He was like, yeah, yeah Um were they listening to sis go kid in in the second story?
Well, is that what you're gonna say? No, but he the the jock guy the bigger jock I guess keeps calling the other guy poncho. Oh, which is right and then at one time He like the other guy calls him sis go. So there's like a pot.
Why why do I have no idea? What was the line that fatso kept repeating? Oh? Oh, see it's go is that it was just like nothing?
It was nothing That's so strange. Yeah, so I did pull a clip here So what they swim out to the raft and the pre-med guy is like that's a really weird oil slick That's in the middle of the lake. Yes. Um and they all he sort of starts freaking out a little bit because it's it's moving towards his his woman and Before she can like get to the raft so they get there and he's like this is this is really like Just really like fucked up and you know, whatever and the jock guy who says Um I Hate that so much.
I my uh, I was gonna pick all of the hitchhiker for the thing that hurt my parts Yeah, yeah, yeah, that might hurt my part. It's the most well. There's worse stuff in this story. So there and there's also Um, this guy's acting is also terrible.
I think it comes through in the audio, but let me just play this real quick Look like it was going after the girls. Oh, come on poncho. You said you're sobered up. It looked like it was going after the girls It looked like it was most right That's like look like it was going after the girls.
That's like um if you shot uh Malachi with a tranquilizer dart. It'll be right before he fell asleep. Yeah Outlander bro bro bro. What was the line come chill?
Have your woman their music it's forbidden. Oh, yeah, I love it through playing board games a super bedding bra That guy's voice is like the fucking Californians from SNL Malachi or this guy. No. No Malachi.
Oh, yeah, yeah Um, do you regret not saying that on the corn kids episode? I do me too. I had a moment. I was like, I should have said that Yeah, but they're lucky for us.
There are plenty of more corn kids moving. Yeah Uh, so they're all out on this raft and there's like this oil slick looking thing, which kind of looks like a tarp Yeah, it's clearly it's like a tarp. Yeah. Yeah pretty good effects sometimes sometimes.
Yeah, great idea for a monster Yeah, so when pre-med's girlfriend is like we should and she's trying like she's almost touching it. Yeah, she's like grabs her Yeah, like it's like this almost like the blob. It is. Yeah, it's an aqua blob.
Yeah, uh, aqua blob. Okay. Yeah, uh grabs her and pulls her in and just like Just like fucking eats her up. Oh my god.
Like uh digests her and she and this first time I've been I'll say upset not scared but very upset was when she surfaces for a second. Yeah, just to say it hurts Oh my god. That was like it. Yeah, it's Yeah, she's seemed like the straight narrow one.
She wasn't smoking weed in the car Her boyfriend is sort of checking out the jocks girlfriend. Yeah, who's a little bit like I don't know. She's yeah, she's made out to be more of like an outgoing girl They paint that girl who dies first like she's gonna be the one who lives. Yeah, she's honestly like any other story any other horror movie She would be the one that lives definitely and she's the first one out which is kind of fucking awesome Yeah, the job then the thing goes under the moraft and the jock guy is like You would have me or saying whatever and it shoots up between the boards and grabs his leg Yes, and starts like and pulls him down through the raft the wood of the raft Yeah And it folds him in half So that the last you see of him is his head and his feet One foot like one leg goes like straight down through the breath and then the other one gets folded up.
Oh, that it's awful It's this is a really good story. Yeah, this is so I'm so mad that we spend so much time talking about the first one now. We're gonna have more time to talk about how much I like this one No, but it's this one was actually like scary. It's it's so good.
It's such a simple premise Yeah, like the other not the hitchhiker But hitchhiker simple enough but that first one is so contrived and overwrought And it's that mistake Stephen King makes sometimes a lot of the time Where he goes way too heavy into the exposition Yes, that's way more than he could ever knock down right and then then we get this raft where you get nothing You're just like bottle-app it really is one setting once that's all we're getting So the jackets pulled down between the boards He's gone and now we're with pre-med and the jocks girlfriend She's like hold me bro. Yeah while we sleep and they like take shifts sleeping right they try to anyway They both wake up in the morning. Yes, and she's still asleep. So he's like, uh, what better time to try to have sex with her This is this this is the worst part Yes, yeah, this is by the way the last move the last story in this movie is very bad But this is truly awful.
This is like if yeah, I don't even know it's like he starts Just kind of feeling her up and kissing her while she's asleep And I don't know what else to say about it besides she like they have her kind of get into it at the end Which is like as upsetting as the fact that they decided to film any of this And I get that they're setting up her death, but I don't understand why she had to be asleep for it Yeah, it could have been two consenting teens I don't know what it's upsetting because she they're like they're holding each other. They're like sitting up and sleeping Yeah, and then he puts her down Oh, that's right. Yeah to be a creep like he and then he like lifts up her shirt And he starts he's it's really fucking a little upper shirt. You see her tits Yeah, which like sorry for saying tits like that.
I'm even here. I was it was an out of body experience for me I hovered over myself as I said tates But yeah, no, it's like it's weirdly graphic like despite the fact that he never you know I shouldn't say doesn't do anything because he feels her up a lot and it's fucking gross, but like nothing Traditionally violent happens. Let's say yeah, yeah, so like but even so it oh it's so it's creepy and it's awful You feel violated watching it and then and she Like her face like she's laying down on this raft and like her face She rolls over and the stuff like the thing has come up through the boards again Yeah, and it's all over her face and it just like it rips her into the water Yeah, and then he's like I'm gonna make my break for it And he's can't he tries swimming to shore. He's oh he swims the shore He makes it and he makes it and he's like look at you.
Look at you Comes up in a big wave and big wave and just like engulfs him and pulls him back into the lake and then So this really is so fucking good like as cheeky as the end of this is it's perfect You see the lake it's a shot from the shore and the camera pans to the right into the woods And you see a sign surrounded by overgrown brush that says no swimming Great. It's simple. Eligonza. Yeah, moto fucking Benny very moto, Benny Yeah, and then we're brought into our third story the hitchhiker which is about it's just real quick synopsis It's about a woman who it's I know what you did last summer.
It's just fuck a jig-a-lo And she's like gotta get home to her husband and she hits a hitchhiker with her car hit and run takes off We see did you catch Stephen King? Was he in this one? He was it he was the trucker in this one He pops out like right after the actual accident. He pulls out he gets out of the truck and he's doing his like local Local thing where he says Oh god, it does look like a black guy.
See it's funny. It's funny because he's ignorant so Um she don't see even king you will never get my townie profile there There never She she hits this hitchhiker and basically he keeps following her. It's just like he won't stop. Yeah, and he can't stop and he won't say it was Hilaria Point it seemed like it was a joke.
Yeah, like it was a money python skid or something Like he he kept coming up like he was more bloodied than the last time You know like it's so weird because he's like being destroyed by this process just very slowly Right. That's a lot of the black knight from money python in the holy grail right She he keeps like catching up to her and she keeps like hitting him with the car or like running him into tree branches And like running him over and stuff and he just keeps getting like more and more men teary Yeah, yeah To the point where she gets into the garage and she thinks she's finally shaking him then he pops up next to her open door Yeah, and his jaw is like missing like his tongue's just hanging limp out of his mouth Like it's like an old pug dog Uh, and he's just like rubbing up on her and licking her with his bloody tongue Yeah, and then the husband comes home and finds his wife dead in the in the car. Yeah, that's it. That's it That's it.
That's all we have to say. It's a real bomber note to go out on because I don't know It felt like they were ramping up. Yeah, the first one's not great, but it does something and the second one I think is actually a good story. It's really good And then the last one is basically nothing it goes nowhere.
My favorite line though from the last one is You're seeing things, bitch. Yeah, I love to that She know how women talk. Yeah, she she does a lot of talking to herself in the car because she has to she's the only one we're watching So right, but we talked about this how much better with this whole thing of been if she didn't have like a line of dial It was just her driving and all of a sudden this fucking guy pops up But at the time you needed to explain absolutely every motive. Yeah, apparently You're seeing things, bitch.
That that's got to make the board forever Yeah, I think that's an eternal And eternal board. That's an easy. Yeah, and then we get the other the book end Where little Billy has sent away for Venus fly traps and bullies that have been uh sort of like bothering him or chasing him Billy leads them to this like abandoned See a junk yard or something and where these giant Venus fly traps come out of nowhere and Kill three children. Yeah, gobble up these bullies even animated I was like this is too much especially because like that last that last shot of the kid in the Venus fly traps mouth And you see like his eyes.
Yeah, his cartoon eyes and pitch black. Yeah, very upsetting Yeah, I don't know maybe I'm too sensitive, but I was not amused by those cartoon antics It's upsetting and then it goes from cartoon back to live action Yeah, yeah for no reason to fuck and we see the the creeper and he's throwing out like these magazines from the back of a moving truck Like a lunatic. Yeah, like I guess he's like this is I'm just gonna do this across the whole land And it's all gonna be taken. I got more creep shows They also we didn't we neglected to mention the animated interstitials And I think that's really where you see that they were trying to make this into a mascot for this franchise Because they give him so much like cheeky dialogue.
Yeah, a lot of puns based on whatever just happened in the story. Yeah Looks like this one got wet behind the ears or some bullshit Oh, I think we forgot to mention that although the body of the creep is played by what's his name Tom Servo I can't remember, but he's voiced by Sam Elliott based on how you just did it. What wait, how do you like you're like? Well looks like he did had been done gotten into some well real air partner well The double douche That was me doing the one side of the mouth Sam Elliott left chuckle Sam Elliott fantastic in roadhouse Podcast let's get him on the podcast.
Probably locked out. Sam Elliott. I heard a story the Steve Lemmy I think it's his name the guy. He's one of the broken lizard guys Yes, he met him at a party something and he was like he went up to Sam Elliott and was like shook his hand and said Um, how does it feel to be the toughest motherfucker in the room or something like that?
Yeah, and Sam Elliott grabs his hand looks and dead in the eyes and says you kill me That's that's that's that's not even my story. That's a great fucking story Oh Oh, he's so gracious. Yeah, that's that's good stuff right there Oh, man from now on this podcast is just gonna be you telling me that story Shorter apps will reconfigure the mic so that I can yell as loud as I want right? God damn.
That's amazing. Yeah, you tell me that's I mean that's the best I was like as you in that time you gave me. Yeah, I was trying to figure out what it was gonna be I was trying to get ahead of the curve Yeah, yeah, it's you didn't see a comment. Did you see the comedian's brain?
Oh Yeah, but no, I was trying to figure out what it was gonna be and I was that's too cool. That's too cool I never could have thought of that. Yeah. It's a fat so to get there Um, but yeah, that's I think that's creep show too.
Yeah, if you insist I bet there's This is not as good as the first one. It's really not um, I think it's not without its charms like we said I think the first one was more was more charming. Oh absolutely Ted danson Ted danson. You had you had a stacked cast Stack cast um Snack, I know how to burn.
Oh Primetime barber. I just feel like the first one Maybe it's just it's not just because there were more stories because I felt like cats I had a nice variety of shit going on. Yeah, this just felt kind of like one like one shade. Yeah in a weird way Yeah, I think it really feels like it's more of a I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say like a cash grab because I don't think that's the right word to use but it maybe a contractual obligation Yeah, it does seem like they were trying to do something to continue these stories and maybe they They didn't put as much effort into this as they did right.
Well, keep in mind world We're not too far removed from maximum overdrive. That's true. So steven king might still be in the middle of a cocaine binge There's there's only five years between these movies that don't seem that between this and maximum overdrive. No between the creep shows.
Yeah I don't know. I don't think I the middle one the raft is the best one by far Then old chief wouldn't head and the last the hitchhiker is truly yeah chief wouldn't head places too just because the hitchhiker is so bad Yeah, here's the thing like we said at the beginning The ratio of good to bad is about the same as it is in creep show. Yeah, like the Ted Danson story is really good in creep show That last story is not good in creep show. So the cockroach.
Yeah, that was not good the one with uh hell hall broken Adrian barbo That one I liked a lot. I like that one too. It's goofy. Yeah, I like it Um, and what was where we've forgotten there was father's day the one I don't like father's dancing I like that part.
Do you prefer at Harris dancing or Ted Danson? Piece of shit. Christ. Yeah, I gotta go.
I gotta go you The worst part of our invention to get to right where's part of creep show to was me making that job. Yeah, um, god I'm so sorry. Uh, let's talk let's talk fucking king tropes when we do okay, uh, what you got? Townies townies like fat dumb people.
Yeah fat people are automatically dumb Which I don't know why that has to happen. Um white people playing in americans. We're up to two now that constitutes a trope as we establish Women really not being people That seems to be a thing. Yeah, what a bummer I don't especially it's weird because like Stephen King does pretty well with his female character sometimes although he doesn't like an it Not like in it, but like oh no that one carry fire starter.
I'm gonna give it to fucking shining. Yeah, it's our okay Uh, even though she's apparently screaming to shrek my opinions have been made clear. Um, you are you are right He does okay. Yeah, but like oh man.
No, this is not his finest work. You're seeing things bitch I'm gonna scare the hell out of you with sexism Oh Man, I don't know if I like what the show's because I don't mean it. Yeah, not a lot of king tropes in this really not a lot of really I guess just like people using weird verbage. That's certainly an issue that keeps cropping up.
Yeah, I think that's I don't know. It's his thing. He's just thing. Yeah, he equates making people say things that no one else in the world says to like Characterization right like you're seeing things bitch.
Yeah, but they're all just like then cut from the same cloth Right, but yeah, the same weird cloth. Who's the real villain here? I'm gonna say the guy who touches the sleeping girl. You know, 100% Yeah, he is the real villain not the monster that eats her just the monster that touches her.
Yeah, I think I would have been upset if that guy got away, you know, yeah, it's kind of neat that he commits a sex crime and then gets murdered He should really be murdered Painfully as we learned. Yeah, um, let's see what else we got in memoriam. Did anyone die unnecessarily? I mean like georgia georgia and his wife Martha in the beginning I don't think they needed to die.
I think they could I think those guys could have just stolen the precious jewels and gems if they still Yeah, but priceless turquoise jewelry But no, I mean it's certainly you know, we were supposed to feel the emotional weight of them dying. Yeah, we were supposed to yeah It was I think in the raft everybody everybody there deserved a die. It was just deeply upsetting to me I don't think the first girl deserved to die. Although I think she had to die for me to find that story so effective, right?
So there you go. Yeah, um and that would bring us to our final segment. I am db where we Uh rate the average imdb user score against our own opinions this movie creepshow 2 based on 15,395 user ratings receives a 6.0 out of 10 Yeah, I think that's too high. You think it's too high.
I do think it's too high. I think it's right Yeah, where it should be. I don't know you figure if one out of three stories is good That's a batting average of 333. Yeah, so where would you put this?
I'd give it like a three and a half. I guess really? Yeah, I disagree. Yeah, you think it's better than that I did I think a six is is maybe like a 5.5 But but like I think a six is right about where it should be I think you're being generous and I like that about you I think it's uh, it's work.
I mean like we watched maximum overdrive and that was true dog shit. Yeah, that doesn't get any rating from me Yeah, that's very very bad. I think this is even the first story, which is not good It's still like it's functional. I guess it follows the rules of the horror story So there are there are things that happen in a sequence that they should happen in and it ends even the hitchhiker Which I do not like um has its weird kind of moments like like you're saying the thing which is crazy to say Stephen King is great at creating moments Like there is something for for as much as like I'll be like, I don't like the whole story or like, you know Whatever there's something indelible about each of these yeah, uh, even if it's like even if it's just a hokey bit of dialogue Like I remember something about each of these vividly the the ref that story Actually, that's scary to me when I was a kid like that Yeah, almost like the way Jaws keeps people out of the water It's scarier than Jaws because Jaws is like it's a discrete object a shark is like a thing that ends at the shark This is like an amorphous blob.
Yeah. Oh, man. It's like oh, yeah, I as an adult. I don't like that story It's I will very scary this story has made me never want to have sex on a raft again That's where you always have sex though.
I know all right. I'm gonna have to join the sea priesthood I guess I guess we know more furry sex on a raft It's very specific. Why do you think I picked it often for our next guest? Um, yeah anything else?
No, I'm done talking about this. I'm fucking done. Uh, no, I it's fine I all right, you know, I'll give it like a five out of ten. I do think it's worth watching You don't think so?
I don't know. I don't know. I say watch the raft I'll say watch the raft if if you're given the choice of not watching it all or watching it just to see the raft I'd say watch it. So by that measure.
Yes, I'm not I I'm still I'm going. I don't know why I'm going to bat for old people because you're getting older and that nostalgia is kicking against I'm so sorry I'm like a I don't know fuck me. Um But yeah, no, I don't know like it's fine. It's a fine movie.
It's it's it's it does just fine So what's next for us next up on the list? I've never seen this movie before it is Another sequel it is a return to Salem's lots. What didn't we say in the first movie? We didn't say anything until the last 20 minutes.
Is this a movie or a miniseries? It is a movie. Thank god Yeah, oh thank god. Yeah, I think it has a very young Tera-read.
Yeah. Yeah, interesting which is weird. Yeah, it's weird to imagine tera-read being young. Yeah All right, you know what I'll see how that all plays out.
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Um, now what was I gonna? It's for rental on youtube like premium youtube. Yeah, it's like it's like $2.99. That's christ and they're not a sponsor So I feel comfortable saying fuck youtube Yeah, I shouldn't feel comfortable saying that because it's like really comfortable saying yeah, that's brazen Yeah, so yeah, that's how you can watch it if you want to be ready for next week Uh when our guests will be no one yeah, um, but it'll be fun.
Yeah, we do have guests coming I can't stress that enough. We have like good ass guests coming. Yeah, we have we have some some some like real chill people guys It's like it'll be cool whatever will hang out when's our next corn kids movie because Sean if you're listening You're coming back for that. Um, it's it's not for a little while.
That's okay. We have like 12 episodes or something No, that's all right It takes a while to get to the second one but then they sort of come back as if like there was a jump in quality and attention Exactly, you know, it's weird. I do want to say this before we go I know this episode's running long already, but we'll be holding to no one and it rules. Yep, uh Yeah Oh what happened anyway I'm tempted to just go out on that, but I do want to make one quick point.
You were like before we leave One more thing to say Yeah, you know what just play this song. Let's get out of here What do you have to say? I was just gonna say when we talked about corn kids Sean brought up the really good point That it's a horror movie shot entirely in the daytime. We talked about how unaffected that is.
Yeah, uh, Inversely the raft yeah takes place pretty much entirely during the day and it's mega effective Yeah, so maybe the problem lies more in the fact that uh corn kids ain't scary and that was totally worth it I started pretty put together considering how bad I did on the first go round. Well, um that's it for this week. Yeah, um steve and que