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EPISODE · Aug 25, 2025 · 51 MIN

140: Dispensationalism & the Modern State of Israel (with Mark Saucy)

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Welcome to the Theology & Ethics podcast! In this episode, the KC team (and guest Mark Saucy) discuss the modern state of Israel, the current conflicts in the region, and the role of the church in determining Israel’s spiritual status in world history.Mark Saucy and his family served as missionaries for 13 years with SEND International in Kyiv, Ukraine, assigned to encourage and develop theological education in Eurasia. Saucy has taught regularly at theological institutions throughout Ukraine and the Evangelische Theologische Facultait in Leuven, Belgium. Saucy continues his affiliation with the Eurasia region as Director of Talbot's extension program at Kyiv Theological Seminary and as member of the editorial board of the Eurasian theological journal, Theological Reflections. He is the author of The Kingdom of God in the Teaching of Jesus, articles in The Journal of the Evangelical Theological Society, Trinity Journal, Bibliotheca Sacra and other numerous other works for the Union of Evangelicals-Christians Baptist of Ukraine.If you’d like to get in touch with us, give us a call or send us a text at (909) 493-7799, or send us an email at [email protected]. Visit us on our website at kirkwoodcenter.org.Join the theology & ethics conversation & see more from The Kirkwood Center on our socials!Facebook: https://shorturl.at/R3NKgInstagram: https://shorturl.at/UNcebX/Twitter: https://t.ly/Gt8f8YouTube: https://t.ly/LDbWOSubstack: https://t.ly/wBABvWebsite: https://kirkwoodcenter.org/If you enjoyed this episode, please take a second to leave us a review on your podcast app of choice. If this episode made you think of someone you know, shoot them a link!#marksaucy #dispensationalism #israel #israelpalestine #netanyahu #biblicalisrael #stateofisrael #theologyandethicspodcast #kirkwoodcenter #church #christianity #theology #ethics #bibleCHAPTERS & TIMECODES00:00:00-Introduction00:01:18-Mark’s Background00:02:58-The History of Dispensationalism00:07:43-Dispensationalism & the Bible’s View of Israel00:12:01-What About Modern Israel?00:18:07-What Does Covenant Theology Say in Opposition?00:22:38-Pioneering Changes in Progressive Dispensationalism00:27:41-The Significance of Israeli Statehood00:34:21-Does Israel Get a Pass for Its Political Actions?00:38:41-We Cannot Equate Dispensationalism with Rigid Zionism00:40:25-Palestine is Not Equally Qualified for Statehood00:41:59-What Historical Anti-Semitism Teaches Us00:44:53-What Should Christians Be Doing About Israel?00:49:06-Conclusion

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