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EPISODE · Oct 7, 2025 · 33 MIN

#143 - Jamil Zaki on Hope for Cynics

from Evolving with Gratitude · host Lainie Rowell

What if our view of people is darker than reality? Dr. Jamil Zaki, Stanford psychologist and author of Hope for Cynics, shares why many of us mistake cynicism for wisdom and what it’s really costing us. Discover how hopeful skepticism, positive gossip, and small shifts in perspective can help us see more good, build more trust, and live with greater connection.Thrive Global Article:Jamil Zaki on Hope for CynicsAbout Our Guest:Jamil Zaki is a full professor of psychology at Stanford University and director of the Stanford Social Neuroscience Lab. He and his colleagues study social connection, what that connection does for us, and how people can learn to connect more effectively.  Jamil has published over 100 peer-reviewed articles and received more than two dozen awards from scientific associations and universities.  In addition to his scientific work, Jamil has written about the psychology of connection for outlets including The New York Times, The New Yorker, The Atlantic, and Harvard Business Review.  His first book, The War for Kindness, was described by NPR as a “wide-ranging, practical guide to making the world better.”  His second book, Hope for Cynics, was praised by Adam Grant as “A ray of light for dark times.”  About Lainie:Lainie Rowell is a bestselling author, award-winning educator, and TEDx speaker. She is dedicated to human flourishing, focusing on community building, emotional intelligence, and honoring what makes each of us unique and dynamic through learner-driven design. She earned her degree in psychology and went on to earn both a post-graduate credential and a master's degree in education. An international keynote speaker, Lainie has presented in 41 states as well as in dozens of countries across 4 continents. As a consultant, Lainie’s client list ranges from Fortune 100 companies like Apple and Google to school districts and independent schools. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠linktr.ee/lainierowell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Website - ⁠LainieRowell.com⁠Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@LainieRowell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn - @LainieRowellX/Twitter - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@LainieRowell ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Evolving with Gratitude, the book is available ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ And now, Bold Gratitude: The Journal Designed for You and by You is available too!Both Evolving with Gratitude & Bold Gratitude have generous bulk pricing for purchasing 10+ copies delivered to the same location.🙌📚➡️ ⁠bit.ly/ewgbulkdiscount⁠📚➡️ ⁠bit.ly/bgbulkdiscount⁠Just fill out the forms linked above and someone will get back to you ASAP! 

What if our view of people is darker than reality? Dr. Jamil Zaki, Stanford psychologist and author of Hope for Cynics, shares why many of us mistake cynicism for wisdom and what it’s really costing us. Discover how hopeful skepticism, positive gossip, and small shifts in perspective can help us see more good, build more trust, and live with greater connection.Thrive Global Article:Jamil Zaki on Hope for CynicsAbout Our Guest:Jamil Zaki is a full professor of psychology at Stanford University and director of the Stanford Social Neuroscience Lab. He and his colleagues study social connection, what that connection does for us, and how people can learn to connect more effectively.  Jamil has published over 100 peer-reviewed articles and received more than two dozen awards from scientific associations and universities.  In addition to his scientific work, Jamil has written about the psychology of connection for outlets including The New York Times, The New Yorker, The Atlantic, and Harvard Business Review.  His first book, The War for Kindness, was described by NPR as a “wide-ranging, practical guide to making the world better.”  His second book, Hope for Cynics, was praised by Adam Grant as “A ray of light for dark times.”  About Lainie:Lainie Rowell is a bestselling author, award-winning educator, and TEDx speaker. She is dedicated to human flourishing, focusing on community building, emotional intelligence, and honoring what makes each of us unique and dynamic through learner-driven design. She earned her degree in psychology and went on to earn both a post-graduate credential and a master's degree in education. An international keynote speaker, Lainie has presented in 41 states as well as in dozens of countries across 4 continents. As a consultant, Lainie’s client list ranges from Fortune 100 companies like Apple and Google to school districts and independent schools. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠linktr.ee/lainierowell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Website - ⁠LainieRowell.com⁠Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@LainieRowell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn - @LainieRowellX/Twitter - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@LainieRowell ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Evolving with Gratitude, the book is available ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ And now, Bold Gratitude: The Journal Designed for You and by You is available too!Both Evolving with Gratitude & Bold Gratitude have generous bulk pricing for purchasing 10+ copies delivered to the same location.🙌📚➡️ ⁠bit.ly/ewgbulkdiscount⁠📚➡️ ⁠bit.ly/bgbulkdiscount⁠Just fill out the forms linked above and someone will get back to you ASAP!

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