143 - Motion Crapture (with Devang Desai)

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Real good, real good, real good, real good, real good. Real good, real good, real good. Ladies and gentlemen, hello and welcome to another edition of America's Best Worst Canadian Sports Podcast. That's right, Real Good Show is back at it again for another week as episode number 143 in episode where we are joined once again by a returning friend of the show.

I think we just ran out of guests to have on, because it seems like most times lately It's people's return appearances, but we're happy to have him here because there's of course plenty of Toronto sports pain to probably talk about on a night Like this when as we record the Raptors have just been knocked out of the NBA playoffs My name is Justin Morris that and with me once again as always is Stepping heck John Cohen. I didn't realize this was a radio show. We were doing you're like teasing the whole show right off the top Well, I don't know I used to do something that was like a play on the number of the episode and I can't do that anymore So I don't know what to do anymore Is the van Gassai the van welcome back to the show you may know him from the sport held podcast or his own show now Which is called the sport chronicle right isn't it called that or the sporting chronicle that I have the first time you got the wrist Oh damn it. He's been on the show Didn't even bother to learn the name in Introductions.

Yeah, I'm going to say that was not the greatest. No, I've had because he also referenced your the podcast that hasn't even existed as a podcast for two years DIY the DIY atmosphere, I mean we're also supporting each other's podcast. I respect it. I think they Have to be referred to as the sport chronicle.

Yeah, exactly so my apologies for promising TSC for sure. Yeah, that's TSC is to bang design. I mean In the process of the trademark Do it without never heard of it in my life. So I was cool I'm like okay gotcha cool.

It's got a voice radio though So you guys like you cooked it up and at work exactly when you were supposed to be doing your job I guess I mean, you know you take lunch breaks you take coffee breaks. Oh, you got breaks in your job sick man. Yeah I want to work there, but like they don't leave the building up right? That's why no you're shackled Jim at worst and like a little coffee lounge all the things that you could possibly need so that you guys have been to birdie I mean, it's not like there's many things to do outside of my friend.

It's a beautiful campus that you know for sure Yeah, yeah, do you guys ever play soccer out on the field there? Yes? We have a field up there you kick the ball around I mean we hope it around this around you get out there with the boys and just hoof it I mean, yeah, I mean of course. Yeah cool But like to be able to like write it off though as a work thing you have to like put on one of those suits Well, it's like oh the mocaps green suits with the little white balls all over you And just be like we're going out to do a little mocaps section, right?

That's not works. I mean totally That's definitely where you do mocaps outside. That's just your average employees It's not like you bring in pro athletes to do that sort of thing. Yeah, what's the point?

Let's take these million dollar mocaps suits and bring them outside I don't know their million dollar mocaps suits. It looks like it's just like ping-pong balls, right? Yeah, yeah, the guys in the mocaps suits. Do they take them off to go to the bathroom?

So funny. No fact they do cost a lot. It's the first thing of course and they're not fucking ping-pong That's just like I don't know stuff like it can for more deny that there are things you have to do to get out of that suit to use I'm not so they just crapping to see I mean that's why they're so expensive for us It's just like they're crappable That's why you'll be playing on your notice all of a sudden the players ass will get slightly bigger Yeah, they always Exactly Yeah, we could super we can make a super cut I've made a huge mistake You came all the way across town to be here, too. Yeah, I mean, but I just want to confirm that that is not how Mo cap works Distance myself and remarks that were made earlier I mean, I just don't think so.

I don't play it's not gonna field. They do it in like a studio. Correct. Yeah, yeah I mean it's just for kicks right for bands.

This is what you guys do on the show I've been one of my fellow comedians. Yeah for bands to show for banter keep it. I know well you seem like you didn't know I've never heard it before but I was able to puzzle it out very much. You don't know maybe we were talking about Bantu The language you have no idea That is a language right band, too I'm pretty sure anyway no matter but You have fellow comedian of mine a friend of mine is featured in thief as the journey and I want to know where's my fucking piece of the pie But which comedian Johnny Parada is Dino in the Well, not just one of the voices he's like the he's like a pretty big character No body capture.

Yeah, he did the way the suit. Oh, yeah, he did the mocaps and everything he Feels Yeah, exactly the field of oak actually Build it we actually had Kevin Costner come in to bless the ground Build it they will capture it put on the fucking suit and hit a ding around and was like we're done No, J.C. We'll have you on but I think you're fat well against the white caps with your associate Chris James is Changing is changing a bit of the day. It says right on the podcast FC account that he does all the tweets Which is true unless I sign them then their mind because he was not this is not the avenue to go on with white House, but you put your team in a situation now or win or lose it's a bad risk It's a bad place to be there's nothing you can do though.

How did he do it? Don't get me wrong. It seems like 80% of the fan base feels like yeah, we've contributed in a big way Chris made that fine lines video We've really got on really altered the culture. Yeah, okay.

We got like 180 followers That's what we want from the white caps. Yeah, do we really need to talk about the white caps right now Listen, it's not my fault. We're gonna potentially murder No, I mean that's like it. Let's talk about that though for sure.

Well, we are gonna talk about them Yes, I just want to say defamation laws in Peru still exist Just that he's heavily involved in the criminal in criminal investigation and the team is just sort of like Yeah, exactly. Hey, listen, I'm not like as Kurt Schilling would say I'm not making him any less famous by talking about so Watch Chris James is not even a show A lot of people now because it was on Howard Stern last week. I mean what I mean, I'm not about that guy though Yeah, yeah, though he's trying to get me in trouble. He's trying to get me fired from my job all his tweets and shit I'm sad we did bring you on to van talk about like the current state of I mean just you know general pain in Toronto Mm-hmm, but it seems disingenuous a little bit because I saw your tweets about how like, you know every single thing that could possibly go wrong It's going wrong the TFC did win the last cup and that should mean a lot to you in particular Yeah, more than the average Toronto sports fan.

I would think I mean Unfortunately Twitter is a playground for hyperbole. Oh, maybe not entirely true Yeah, I mean I said tonight that I'd rather have no NBA team in the Raptors and that is true I don't know if you saw my tweets that was like it was it was It was like oh my god, please back baby TFC won the endless cup. Yes But I think the most recent heartbreak is the one that they had basically spent two years to get Nikon Captain's League final and they lost that the least lost that night the Raptors were the one team who didn't need to win that day technically Yeah, they did win in hindsight It was the end of the end for all of us in terms of those franchises because as much as the endless cup was great Man, it would have been a game changer if they won the calling out Yeah, it's a massive massive, but yeah, that is probably a lot more meaningful than the endless up what happened How long do you think it'll take you because you're a very you feel sports I would say more than most people I know how long do you think it's gonna take you to recover from that loss I was like you say because I think for people who maybe don't follow MLS legitimately that journey was two years long because when you win the Canadian Championship, you don't play in the Champions League until the following year before man as well So even longer was that was the day was that the year they qualified by beating Vancouver in the last It was the most hilarious moment. Yeah, so that's a thing So they call so they barely qualify for the Champions League to start with they were going to lose scored a last minute goal against the wake Abs to advance to the to just to the Champions League itself and then go on this long journey to get there So I understand that's a long time to I won't go through it to lose I won't get myself I mean like sports keep happening should keep happening games keep happening like you get back in pretty close either Because it's all going on so the end of the world in the least yeah, but sometimes it feels like it is sad because maybe this That's a an indictment on the life choices.

I've made terms of sports expectations, right? Like I feel like in the grand scheme this Raptor season like should be viewed as a success It's never gonna feel that way when you get swept by LeBron in a year where the calves are like, you know Look like they just completely blew up their entire team at the deadline Which essentially they did and like you know kind of seemed like they were throwing in the towel in the season Basically like we still have LeBron and Kevin love is still here But we've given up our aspirations beyond that and meanwhile the Raptors are killing it and it's like this should this should be the year for Toronto As far as the NBA goes well, you're to get destroyed by Golden State Yes, exactly the year to win the East which is still something that they have never done and if they were going to ever do it It would be this year. Yeah, this is the best Raptors team They've had and the worst Cavs team they faced. Yeah, I would say and and What's the Bron though?

It's the night. Yeah, I didn't go great as LeBron. Yes. My thing is like I totally understand how it's at disappointment It'd be pretty wild that when Casey might win coach of the year and get fired in the same year Which is not unprecedented what happens like the year after the same year?

I don't think it's ever happened before but Unfortunately you ran into LeBron several years ago I think this was the best iteration of the Raptors but those same things that kept happening happening happen like game one Like you can't lose that game. I know it was one game. That was it Like that in terms of belief and like mentality as much as I think we are better off not relying on Grit and feel anymore and looking at numbers that shit still matters I think that mattered for them because the mentality just after that it didn't seem like they actually thought they could beat them and it showed As they did not at any point ever When OG hit that three in game three to tie the game and I remember like all right This is that's what I get you back in and then I saw LeBron receive the ball from the inbound I'm like, oh, no, this is good at the same way. It's always Yeah, any of the better if she had not scored there almost you never get that moment This is the extreme glass half old person But like there's still a lot of good young players on this team and I don't know if it's a referendum on getting rid of the core and starting over I think try a new coach first and then when you get to that point Hope the New York Knicks are still run by that same owner and they will accept Kyle out refer for a strong paper some reason And maybe we can escape from from that.

Yeah, yeah, I think the thing I'm in Toronto sports and as well And I think it's more so I know the way said that by the monoclon you're done your eyes Feel and I can't in my hand Mr. Peanut That was my but that was for different We're all sitting in our old Mention's at the hills of Toronto Really I was in Toronto then But I think being a Toronto sports van it's that you it's more so that it's just that you get kicked over and over and over I think that's the thing it's like like you say it's like it's easy to get pulled back in and that seems to happen all the time You just keep getting pulled back in by one of the teams They get pulled back in then they and then another team pulls in and it's like at the same time I'm like I'm 32 years old like yeah, okay the J is one twice when I was seven and eight years old other than that The team's done nothing. I know other team has made the finals. I will say I think we do a bad job of Not empathizing with other fan mazes because it definitely happens to them as well.

We're not unique in this No, that's true. Oh, yeah, for sure. Like Cincinnati. It's horrible But like because we are so close to when we're biased because that's what we are supporting and cheering for we feel it harder than Yeah, someone else you might think but in reality like it probably happens.

Oh, yeah, Minnesota Minnesota Cincinnati Unless you like hit screw or Boston like yeah, Boston is like LA the shit all of the Boston shit like oh the refs screwed us out of This year. I mean give me a mother That's insane because they legitimately won a cup because the rest didn't call anything Like that's why they they want that I saw Boston fan complaining He's like you know what ever since all the years after 2011 the refs have been out to get us He sees specifically didn't include 2011 Yeah, well, I'd also like did they not were the Bruins fans not there for the leaf series because the Leafs were getting dummy by the refs that whole Series, it's just so crazy Well, you saw why I mean Brad Marchant was asked point blank why he licked Ryan Callahan and he said he punched me four times in the face And I got no call really did he do that exact thing because I seem to remember you doing that to somebody oh much Marner I was thinking of Daniel It's him using Daniel's face as a fucking speedbag Gosh I got two warnings for licking someone you got two One worries bad now Definitely not even it was only one because it was a story after round one when they beat the Leafs I think it came out I can't remember who reported it but somebody said that the NHL stepped in and told Brad Marchant to stop licking the I Elliott for even so funny story and but it but you would hope was also true and then the NHL came out and said no No, no, we actually we never said that we just What an insanely gone out? What do you not? Nothing guys?

This is excellent public relations This is a master class We didn't say anything one way or the other we're kind of opinionless about this whole licking incident now I can see because they also came out and said that about like Benning said that they the Canucks had tried to send their mascot to the draft Lottery which I guess was just like a joke that kind of snowballed or whatever because the NHL also came out and said that never happened They never asked to do that. I think it's Benning tried to call them on a speaking spell I Understand like saying that you didn't say no to that I guess if that they never said that because that's kind of a funny story But like the Marchant thing is like a little bit funny, but also like pretty serious because it's like what like this is a fucking Thing to do man. How is it different spinning on exactly exactly like obviously it's not as bad as like I hate people were like Well, it's not as bad as like elblings on my head. It's like yeah, no shit Yeah, but you'll be a penalty yeah Well and people being like oh, why is this the story?

It's so crazy that this is the story Yeah, it's so weird and the thing to also I don't know if you guys saw the after they got eliminated they interviewed Brad Marchant and they're asking him about the licking like Oh, like you know Well, how do you feel about that like the NHL saying all that stuff to you or whatever? And he's like yeah, like they talked to me whatever I personally just think it's pretty stupid And I was like you think that the NHL at your 30 year old man with a kid someone on the face you lick someone Not the people their entire face two different people and you're saying that the NHL telling you to not do that is stupid Oh, he's 30. Yeah, good 1988 good night and yeah, you think about like you won the cup in 2011. Yeah, yeah Well, here's what I want to talk about the uh this whole episode's about Devang you left your umbrella in my parents house.

That's correct last Saturday. That's practice And then you get me and I was like yeah, I'll grab it But I'm not roasting you for this because I got the umbrella and I was gonna bring it to John's place when I recorded last week So I'd leave it with them, but I forgot so Irene has it right now Okay, I just wanted like to be your hash is that I guess Can I be honest here when so when that first communique was sent about yeah, I'm so it wasn't mine I was a lent to me by friend, but it was a rainy day that day. Okay, so Sunny so you're a little long mochap session. I mean I can borrow your umbrella when I left the mochap deal when I left the mochap deal Like I was starting to rain I need some rela kind of or this that's what ended the mochap session actually those little Bob I just I just want to say though.

It wasn't like a dollar store umbrella. It was a pretty decent umbrella No, it was a wait there was some wait there. Yeah, but so I asked him like I came in I left my umbrella there also realizing that he's probably going back To Los Angeles at some point so the meetup is gonna be hard, but it's never applied and I didn't really follow up I just said thank you I was gonna say And then DM you and say hey John has it right? That's why we had to bang on the show because we were like okay Well, we'll get the bag on the show next week so you can get him some relevak yeah, and I forgot to bring the umbrella And so then I just never contacted you I was I was at piece of it The way to send it I'm gonna have to be a friend Traveler right of course travel world for work all I mean they just give those away to the town alone So they do be down in Los Angeles the stuff and you packed it you brought down to LA with you right?

No, I mean so I don't mind them But I really have it and like you could get it from her or she could drop it off with John and then John could give it to you Or she could leave it in like a predetermined garbage can That's that's like it is in this good as possible. I'll be outside the cineplex Odeon at She's gonna stand you should make a place. Sorry. Yeah, no longer so you live off you live in a live big village So Irene and Irene lives in gas still is downtown So she'll just go to the other side of false Creek and throw it in and hope it floats to the other side Yeah, that's cool.

Oh, it's beautiful. It's really I have a funny umbrella story as well It was a bigger problem from the night of that party that we need to address also Oh, so we're really not doing the umbrella Not funny, but it's only one no no you can tell your umbrella story Well, it was just funny because so this is going back so my ex-girlfriend her mom. They were staying there. Yeah, exactly That's what I'm saying.

It's good story. We're they were staying a fox for the everyone. Yeah, Fox. Yeah, exactly You might be a redneck if your umbrella is an old parachute I don't know your umbrella is made up parts.

I don't know an old parachute. I don't know who's parachuting it. That's a redneck It's a classic redneck tradition to yeah, just guy dive on your own property with all those planes Yeah, yeah, anyway Absolutely, that's part of the whole thing All right So she they were staying at the pheromont she borrowed a umbrella from the pheromont and then left it in my car and she was like Could you return it to kind of an ad for the pheromon? Yeah, exactly.

I'm trying to get sponsored. Yo pheromont. Okay, but some rooms Okay, pardon me. So she leaves the umbrella in my car and it was like a nice like patterned umbrella And then she's like oh could you take it back to the pheromont?

And then I just never did and there's like a year went by and I'm like whatever I just owned this umbrella now. It's in my car. So it just means has been literally sitting in my car for a year than the other day I'm out and it was like raining so hard. I'm like, okay, I'm gonna take this umbrella out And it doesn't it just looks like a very like nondescript umbrella and then I open it and it's just like pheromont in like so many big Like I'm like fuck.

I cannot hopefully no one from the pheromont sees this I don't know if they really care that much like I'm sure they don't care at all But it was like oh, it's very clear that this was from the pheromont and it's ridiculous that you would own something like that This is a great story and Yeah, 20% of our listeners actually So they're for sure and come collect on that listen. Hey, listen. We lost a sponsor like six months ago I don't see anything to try getting back. So you're like you're planning to get a family to sponsor But anybody stolen umbrella from them.

Exactly. This is 2018 gorilla marketing, man. Yeah, all right What's it called organic content or whatever when it's like woven into the fabric of the show exactly? That's cool.

I'm giving it poop I mean technically is organic content. Yeah, that is not wrong Uh, I thought it was a pretty good story. Well, there's a real the real thing to hammer to bang on I thought he left the umbrella at yeah, here comes another hot tail This was the main reason I was excited he was coming on the show was that you and I that divang This is the main reason he was excited You and I were gonna leave that party together to bang we're gonna split a taxi if I'm not mistaken And if if memory starts to correct in fact you did not have the wherewithal to call a cab for yourself So I did that on your phone I called us a cab and then you immediately went outside to smoke a cigarette and can you uh just tell the people what happened from there? Uh if memory serves me correctly, I got in the cabin left with it.

Yeah, they called you to say we're outside. You were like, oh, gotta go Sounds like to fan me. Let me just run it off. Yeah, and I was like, I think there's a cab coming I don't know somebody seemed to bang Classic to bang move though.

Da bang is a professional ghoster. Yeah, he uh he abandoned me Well him and I got together last year to watch the leafs play the washington capitals And then he just left in the second intermittent say during the information to be disadvantaged He just vanished. Well, he didn't just vanish. He told me he was leaving But I was like well I plan to watch this game with you and I just watched the third period by myself I played a very important mo-cap session to hurry on over No, I think it was because he wasn't allowed to smoke on my balcony.

Uh-huh. You're too nervous. I think that's right. Isn't it?

No, that that is what No, I know he was a bad look. It was a bad scene. I apologize. Justin.

It's all good. It's all good Yeah, it's all good. I appreciate it. I got a ride from someone else and that ride was free So I didn't have to pay for a cab in the end another great story.

I came out ahead I just wanted you to apologize I'm happy to hear that Sometimes my uh, not to get too deep but uh, yeah get deep Anxiety is a motherfucker sometimes like the only solution is to basically cut and run and not even considering that I had made a pack to go home With someone else. Yeah, so that's why I mean you told me on the night that you thought I had already left Yeah, so I think you were suffering from like object permanence. But sir, no, I mean he's not in the circle around me It happens the best You can't suffer from object permanence Oh, I understand the concept of a lack of it Yeah, I'm suffering from uh, understanding like where and when things are and how long they stay there Since I've been since I was like two years old. Yeah, you should see me try and take the bus I car my eyes and then I'm like, I know that shit's gonna be there Absolutely get something for that.

I feel like a prescription. Yeah, just like hit myself in the head Um, I was gonna say though when we were talking about Toronto sports, which seems like a long time ago now You were saying that it feels like you get kicked more often and I would say that you have more opportunities to be kicked Yeah, we got more teams I've got the Canucks and that's it like I'm gonna get the white caps and the beastie lion Now we're gonna feel kicked by the CFL or MLS Yeah, it's like the big question I think is like is it worse to have like, you know three or four shitty teams in like the four major sports Or just like one shay team that you can like focus all like I think probably having three would be better because well Because it's more lottery to the odds of it. You can finally you're like, well, okay the jay suck this year But at least there's this at least there's that whereas when the kutchabats like I don't have a house either Well, and you're also like you're just it's the season ended the season is basically over in january Yeah, for you guys so you're pretty much just waiting like january to october For being realistic october, you know The number one thing to look forward to all fucking year was the draft that's true. How'd you guys do?

What happened? Again better than I expected It's just honestly, it's only because shiqalgar evan did win it because my whole thing was in my head I was like it's gonna be one of those two and it wasn't so that to me is like is a positive result fair Goddamn it next year's gonna be I'm gonna get so hyped up next year because the draft is in Vancouver too And it's gonna be like the first year that the sedians and it's like you know what the league's gonna finally like ring something in our favor And they're gonna pick like eight probably I mean if they were gonna rig anything they would have put Conor McDavid in Toronto So I think the hope that the the rigging is Is not rigged but I don't know what I mean I do know what you mean the thing I'm dreading the most right now is like the the hot takes this summer that are all gonna be like The success of the Winnipeg Jets is hopeful for the Canucks because this is another team that never won the lottery and Built their team around a bunch of questionable veterans and infusion of youth This is the exact model that they're going to follow in Recognizing the fact that like Winnipeg knocked out of the park every single first round pick they've had basically for the last decade Yeah, but that's how they had a number two My name They didn't miss a single first round pick for however since like shy flea or whatever and half of their home run picks are like Guys the Canucks whiffed on to draft fucking You still see people online and I thought today I saw today even because you was a never-gudame where it's like well You know there's a new letter that a terrible playoffs and like for tan and whatever so like These people are just stupid. I think it's not smart people They're really they just don't have any concept of like how anything works at all and they're very dumb Because they'll look at a player who is bad in the regular season who's bad offensively at least And they'll say oh, you know how in the playoffs when things get like faster and more difficult this worst player will do better Somehow because that's how it works. Of course.

I think they just gotta make it in right? But you never know what happens. I think they just look at you know, I don't know what I mean It's just the idea of like oh you have to be tough and fast and big in playoffs and pretend it's tough and fast and big And it's like well, yeah, but you have to be good at hockey To make the playoffs in the fucking first of all making the playoffs would be a start I don't think we have to worry about after like the next five or six years at least but Um, yeah, there it's just the dumb it's the dumbest fans And it's it's fans who wanted for ten at the time and were happy with pretendin And they just can't fight the bullet and say or even this year They like started to like realize like okay Maybe we were wrong like it took them this long to figure it out and then the playoffs roll around and like the liner doesn't do great And elers doesn't do great and they're like oh, okay. Hold on a second Maybe uh, maybe we're actually right here But they have like nothing to there's no argument there because it's like you have no evidence There's no data or anything.

There's no sample size compared Oh, everyone jay for ten and scored like six goals in the first round of the initial playoffs No, because that has never happened and we'll never have Two like i don't think he'll score six playoff goals period his entire career We also don't see generally speaking guys who play on the fourth line and don't play special teams All of a sudden get promoted in the playoffs to a position where they're going to be like dominating like that just doesn't happen So that's the other thing too. It's like even even like your point about the playoffs is good But also like the regular season he's done nothing to to to make it seem like oh, okay Once he gets the playoffs, he's really gonna be good It's like well if you have 30 points a year You're not gonna be that good no matter what are the Leafs is that happening with the the Leafs media that they're like turning on the kids Like where were they a little bit? Because i don't try to pay attention to the usual suspects a little bit There's a i mean i know that that does like shape the narrative with how casual stock about the team too Well, the whole thing is they're trying to paint the narrative that awesome Matthews doesn't like mike babcock That's their that's their main thing that they're going with right now Because he didn't get enough ice time so he's mad at babcock because he didn't get enough ice time and then babcock apparently flew to Arizona to like meet with him about it he did play with 17 minutes a night something like that It's gonna say my back I did not make a lot of great decisions in my opinion either So I don't know if he's teflon in this regard i'm not saying he is I'm not saying he is. It's gonna try to make some teflon But i don't think awesome out he's a bassist complaint if that's an actual thing i don't think he's wrong Yeah, no i mean i'm listen i think the main thing i think babcock was kind of using math use Like i read an article today about how like basically whenever chara wasn't on the ice in both series boston got just caved in Yeah, you know like mitch marner's line scored like seven eight seven or eight even strength goals against them And then tamp his second line in five games scored 10 even strength goals against their second pair of krugan miller So i think it was like i think it was like partly that as well that like babcock was like, okay Well, if i get math use out there, they'll put chara out there and then if i take math use off they'll take chara off I don't know i mean i'm not i'm not an initial coach, but it's just like that to me It was just so funny like i just don't think i mean As far as i can tell math use loves playing in toronto loves the spotlight wants to be wants to be in toronto So i mean the idea that like he's fighting with babcock is like, okay, maybe a little bit but it's not like They're not gonna get the job done even if that is the case I'm building it's necessarily a bad thing that you can have a disagreement about something and hash it over like i'm assuming This happens all the time during the year, but it's toronto There's stories to write this clicks together and i understand why that the mike is going over them Would you rather that the raptors have been like a middle of the pack team this year than the season that they had?

Nope, yeah, no No, it's not No, it just seems like i you see i mean like you said twitter is a place for hyperbolic statements But like after the game three last i saw a bunch of like, whoa, why? What have i done with the last 25 years of my life? What was the point of any of this? That's like, you know, i don't know the only reason that you're feeling despair is because you felt hope in the first place, right?

And i would probably rather feel hope than a lack of hope altogether No, no hope is bad i'm so glad like i tweeted earlier that i haven't been like worried about watching an angel game for like six years and rules Yeah, i kind of want this to last another five years i mean it will but i've just like accepted it having hope is brutal Like i have hope for the draft lottery and that's the closest i get to having any hope about the team because i'm not going to have hope about like the roster or the Or like the management or like the regular season or anything like why would i do that? And like 2011 like ruined me and basically taught me just to not not that i care about the team but like do not hope or believe in them in any uh, way, shape or form and it's way easier yeah, i feel like there are these like points within fandom where like the hope reaches like a massive crescendo And then the wave kind of crests and and subsides a little bit and 2011 is definitely that moment in vancouver Like the Canucks are still a big deal because they're the only thing we have but it's not anywhere near on the level of one of things We're like in the city even before 2011 like if you're compared today to like 2007 when the team like couldn't score but had luongo and a great defense like the interest would still Not compare to day versus a team that wasn't that great but just like barely made the playoffs essentially to me It's it's like i can safely say i'll probably never have any hope like true hope for the Canucks ever And and i liked it like i think 2011 kind of taught me that important lesson and and you guys will get that soon at some point when When the Leafs lose to arizona With that use the captain for the And you'll realize like oh, yeah, you shouldn't have any hope first of all first of all i will say this I understand and I agree but if there is no semblance of hope what really is the point then like unless you actually enjoy like the aesthetic quality of Watching these people play these sports, which is fair. Yeah outside of the fandom part. I probably would not watch any of this I don't think I would like I think it's like liking for like certain players for me right now That's right as far as far as it goes like I I can't get any hope up for the team and like I think yeah again Like 2011 just taught me that like there's no reason to ever it could be eight nothing vancouver in game four of the stand-up finals There are three nothing in the series eight nothing with like 30 seconds left in the game.

I still they're not I just I feel it's near worse than the leaf is though I think i just I think that this year is a possible like cresting moment for raptors fandom because how do you not feel like like that way Like this had to be the year for all the reasons we outlined earlier a little bit Like I don't see a way that interest and investment doesn't take a hit next season Just because like it's at this point that's shown that it doesn't matter how good of a regular season you possibly have How much bench depth you could possibly have like all of the things that people pointed out throughout the season about like why this year is different And in the end it probably was worse for them against LeBron than it's ever been It's a fair shout out. I just devastated like I there's no there's no other way to put it and I There's a very reasonable questions are asking that I'm very concerned about the next use desk because again I don't think you have to blow it up, but Something will have to change for sure because what's though again What is the point if you're only getting this far after a season like that and outside of doing it Presumably like LeBron could go to Boston in the office really or failure. I I think I think he'll go to the next or go to the lake I think I don't think he's going to west I thought he was for a while. I don't think he is now.

Why bother? I will the finals appearances is big He's already the goat. He's already the goat my opinion I agree to resuscitate the New York nixable teams the team literally controlled by an insane man Who is the next but imagine that was the final chapter that'd be fantastic and even if they don't succeed he could probably join James dolins I'm not Now that you've said that yeah of the fire tracks that LeBron and James dolins would Together But yeah for afters fans get at least go west but he probably won't do that No, he won't and it doesn't look great even if he does I mean Boston has had a ton of injuries this year and they're still doing well presumably I still think LeBron is like that's I don't care if it's Gordon Hayward or Kyrie Irving or whoever we have was out LeBron James LeBron James I don't care I don't care to me They don't equal him in any in any regard so I think I would take him the raptors chances against a Celtics team with those guys rather than LeBron Oh, yeah me too. I'm just saying that yeah, I agree Well, we've got one last piece of news here.

Yes As I googled is actually a story from May of last year I guess just was recirculating again because somebody at varsity will have to discover it this week So many listeners sent this in that I feel like we have to talk about it And really I think it was because it was Kentucky dirty weekend That's why people were out because of course American pharaoh who we all know passed away tragically died on the freeway A year and a half ago. I got loose on the freeway Has sex three times a day every day and his owners charge a two hundred thousand dollar fee per impregnation Which generates roughly three million dollars or 30 rather million dollars a year There's a three Retired from racing and is now just being pimped out to produce a long line. I think I saw the feature on the dirt that derby Which I think was five hours Drance was at the Really More like American fair hoe Do you think American fair ever just wants to say like look I'm trying to hang out yeah Or like he meets a horse. He like actually kind of likes he like knocks her up But then he's like you just want to like go watch a movie or like something I don't know what movie with a horse watch, you know, but yeah according to that he gets 150 horses pregnant per year Like a beat that 150 per year.

Well, your math is really bad. Is it? Three times a day, but no, it's already a pregnancy. Oh, I see because yeah, they don't get pregnant every time.

Yeah, no I see finishes. Yeah, you pull that's I want to clarify something about that you could impregnate 150 horses per year is what you said Yeah, okay Yeah, because you see the glove or they have a pumpkin like right I can do like a hundred a day Yeah, I mean, I guess just think of how good it is. I'm not the one having to produce the horse come That's all being done. That's true.

You're artificially on semina. Yeah, but then again You don't know if every single one is gonna catch right? Yeah, but I'm saying like I'm saying if you if you're like You know like I'm sorry to like what again again. Yeah, it's how they use a rifle.

No, sorry. It was like what You do like a thousand Line them all up if you lock them all up. Yeah, that's what they they paid the world's best archer to come to the to come to the Yeah, farm. Yeah, so I'm saying I could 150 a year.

That's pathetic I'm trying to do the math right now because uh, I guess like three times a day three times 365 It's probably like a little over a thousand close to I think probably it's a little over a thousand close to a 1100 or so, right? Yeah, I don't have the official number worked out regardless. It's not important And they only gets 150 of those 1100 every year So that's a lot of making horses fuck for no for no gain ultimately There's a game they're like coming up I guess the ones that hit make it worthwhile when you're getting 200,000 per hit But otherwise like that's uh, that's quite an industry you've built for yourself Just making horses fuck all day long And what what am I actually is to be able to go three times a day every day in a maniac The greatest horse is a race we took back to you American Pharaoh. I believe the call was what am I maniac I'm a kid He's a sexual monster Yeah, so you know happy happy derby week Speaking of the word fuck.

Yes fantastic segue john. Thank you excellent. Well done. It's like you're a pro Hey, I'm trying my best.

Uh, we have a great clip of the week this week which comes to us from the NHL playoffs In fact comes to us from earlier this evening as we've not spoken about this at all the washington capitals finally move on Over to the Pittsburgh penguins just when you think there's no reason for hopes that and doesn't that warm your heart No, I know We used to Tampa Bay probably although my prediction and this is I mean we're gonna pay lost as well, right? So yeah, yeah, my prediction was still gonna peg washington so that could still come true. Okay. Yeah, I got the opposite side of that So Tampa I got Tampa and uh the lightning or rather that's the same team.

Yeah, I've got the lightning and the bread It's a classic Elton John B side and I'm currently winning my bracket pool at work So it'd be nice if I beat all of the sports commentators 50 Tampa Tampa and the lightning Elton john classic. Yeah, so I'm saying I just said that's a lot of John B side Tampa and the lightning Okay, well, let's do it. Yeah, this is the week comes from Alex Ovechkin who made the game-winning assist to have guinea Cause netsov and his ass by pere Maguire what he thinks about it help again He's not going on that record. What are you thinking as you watch it?

Do that play score? Just fucking play score. You know, it's Yeah, he's great. He is great.

All the washington capitals are great because netsov is well I was reading he had a great quote after the after the game where he said pere asked him How much relief is it that you don't have to go home for game seven and he said my wife is on vacation It doesn't matter if I'm there or not. So yeah, and who's netsov's drop a few f bombs as well post Our flapping today the arm flapping thing is money. That's what that's probably the best lee in the league It's just like I really want the capitals even though it would break my bracket to have like a a cup final moment Like whether they win or not is immaterial. It doesn't really matter I think it matters a bit.

I mean like I did a matter that the Canucks one and twenty eleven I mean, I'm not I'm not a fan of the capital so it's not a great for me on like the you know the legacy of ovechkin I think there's a kind of great players who get the run and don't necessarily close it out I can think of two who just retired in Vancouver in fact, uh, sorry who Just first ballot hall of famers, you know, and it'll be fine. They would happen they were finished. They were finished ones. Yeah, yeah, absolutely Uh, but you know like there's tons of people out there who I think of largely like we were like I was saying earlier like the way the commentary it talks about certain players sculpts the kind of casual conversation about them and outside of brian berg on hockey night in Canada today like going Out of his way to defend and uh and commend alice of that can on his playoff performances over the year I think of the years rather I think there's like a lot of people out there who think like this guy's a joker.

He chokes all the time What a ridiculous clown you're never gonna go anywhere without so much can as your leader in the playoffs Really because I feel like there was like a general grounds well around ove like they want to see him finally get this year. Yeah, this year finally But like I agreed in the past no, but I think this is like last year was really bad for them Because I feel like they kind of had a similar thing to the Raptors this year where they it was probably the best capitals team ever They won the president's trophy. It was a severely injured penguins team. You know chrysletang is out Didn't they have another demon out to they had ron hansy play?

Yeah, ron hansy Together top pair was ron hansy and brian do malin Uh, so yes, I think like last year was that kind of raptors thing where it's like well This is the best caps team that's probably playing the worst pens team if not never thought yeah exactly And so I think that that that really people are already kind of down on ovechkin and then last year that happens and they go Well, what a bomb I just there's a certain kind of person who celebrates every single year when the capital's getting knocked out It's like oh proof that once again, I'm correct for thinking ovechkins is the huge bum even though it's like, you know No offense to him, but like obviously it's easier You're always gonna have more success if the star player that your team is built around is a center versus a winger Just because the center like does so much more overall like I think like even though like a winger can be as great as possible You're not gonna control the flow of the game on the same way that like a Crosby or a bershron or like somebody like that They also have backstrum of course Didn't play tonight and they still won but yeah, no, I know what you're saying I think it's yeah It's it is definitely part of that like vindication thing like it's weird the same thing kind of happened with the sedians too Or people said they couldn't play in the playoffs and they were like point-for-game players in the playoffs or like most of their careers Like people don't even look at the stats. They just go well, okay. They lost so they must be bad It's like well Okay, I mean it's the same thing with Austin Matthews this year I mean I'm not saying he played great and obviously I'm very biased but at the same time He was also on the majority of his shifts playing three of the best defensive players in the league on like every shift He was also being given the same ice time that like Brandon Sutter receives in Vancouver Yeah, well, but I don't think that's not to me the ice time thing is not that big of a deal when you have three very good lines It's also super injured right didn't that come out? He has a shoulder That always comes out though about everybody.

Yeah, it's like by the way 17 of our guys had broken They shock a turiation don't have been playing at all MCL they see how they see how we're going. I'm like why was he playing? What how many how many courtes on shots are you giving these people at this point? Yeah?

And the answer is a lot so many I told the story about Chris Higgins in 2011 had to be like carried up and down the stairs at the hotel every day for the entire playoff run There's no plane. Yeah, well There's yeah, but you know good to see good to see the caps move on even if we might not necessarily believe that they'll find a lot of success here in the conference finals But with that we will move on to our top three questions of the week Hey, y'all it's the top three questions of the week on real good show. You know what the fuck it is bitch We murder and CFL podcast up in this motherfucker Russell look out and get in the mail bag this week john That's okay. That's okay That's not bad first question comes in from long time listener Brad mcdonald at reporter Brad And I feel like this is a bit of an homage to our guest for the bang aside tonight Uh, he says if you were to call a cab And forget an umbrella Exactly what it's not a reiterate.

I buy new with it right down to the show I would If I feel like I was lied to Some things were left out of the mentions. I was okay if you had an umbrella And I would have to say the same Okay, so if we had a soccer team if we had a real good show football club What would our club nickname be so for example stoke city's nickname is the potters nor its city's nickname is the canaries What would the real good show club nickname be? Diablo's like the diablos. That's cool.

Like we'd have like a little patch Right so there's some devil horns on there and shit. They're gonna be good It's so really well itself people like all the yeah, when our leading score so like because that's off has a bird flaps You know we would have like the guys would do like the devil horns or this or whatever Exactly, but does that does that fit with anything? Yeah, we're always talking about Satanism on this show. I believe branding is the constant Ever You were you were To answer this question.

I guess no other questions. How would you guys describe yourselves? I mean I feel as a collective though not individually I feel like our original show logo would be the best because it is already in itself kind of a soccer jersey logo And so we would be the toilets. Yeah, I don't know I think we'd class it up a little bit and you I thought you were gonna go for the Kind of ego maniacal choice there as well, and it would be a British choice given that it's a football club and call them the Johns I mean, that's pretty good actually.

Yeah, that is what the toilet logo is actually you know what wow I was gonna say the I don't know if it's eco maniacal for the toilet though. Well, I think it's it's self-defecating Well self-defecate I have a way. Yeah, well here's the thing for me I would say I would say that like because a lot of these nicknames I feel like come from the fans So it would make sense that the fans would choose their favorite host Well, that was that was just a brag. I don't think I was humble It wasn't like hey, so I was just hanging out with Tom angstator day and he said obviously With the toilet logo though for sure well cuz you also get the double meaning like it's also like a person soliciting An escort right so yeah, so you get the johns there too covers everything that your shows a bit Yeah, I guess uh, what can I say, you know, it's all in a name?

We did just talk about the prostitution of american pharaoh, so I think They are living The horns the horns they are honking I live I live decently close to a major intersection But that was still pretty intense the second question comes in from matt debore at duke of shuggles And he writes rene ran court was able to quote go out on his own terms despite being terrible at his job What career would you most would you be most likely to succeed at whilst being objectively horrible? at comedy writing You think you're bad at comedy writing I think there's a lot of people who are way better than me and it's like a very much like an imposter syndrome thing where every day i have to convince myself like oh This is what I do. I guess that's why you're a good comedy writer Yeah Good ball because I feel like every good comedy writer wakes up every morning and goes well I'm not funny at all. I suck shit and everyone else is what yeah And I say that a lot like on the show and like on the street too.

I guess people just like that Yeah, I mean I would just look at my follower count and think 101,000 people can't be wrong You know, that's what I would probably tell myself as a daily affirmation How many Justin how many people do you think you would like on a daily basis? How many times would you bring it up in convo if you had 101,000? That's true at all because you talk about real good show to people on the street No, I don't You Is that a street club out there being like hand-out cards? Pause no, I don't think you say that at all.

I think you're like waiting for the little man to come on a crosswalk You're like hey like so I'm I'm on real good show podcast Well, you said you bring it up on dates and stuff. I mean she wanted to know what I do for money That's something that I do. I mean I do it for money too. I don't talk about it.

Okay. You've got a lot of other things going on Yeah, I mean whatever it's fine Do you ever talk about it the podcast? Yeah, okay, like yeah, what do you say that I have one? Um, I think to answer question like I can do something like a really bad teacher, but I could like just straight by yeah That's like wow, I don't really think you're in the union.

They just like can't get rid of you basically like you're in life That's why you're so bad. Yeah, the Renee Rancor thing you definitely would get to go out on your own terms for sure Is he done though? He's he's no more He's getting shot here. It's pretty remarkable what they did Yeah, you can't even believe it Massachusetts lives.

You gotta lose on the freeway also Yeah, the the the Bruins players all like Made their sticks around just a little fans. I know they were in Tampa, but for this joke They were in Boston and then they surrounded Renee Rancor Watching him to death He was like doing his like spastic arms up the whole time. He's so bad. He's so so bad He was fizz pumping.

I mean, I think a lot of people didn't give enough credit to the organ player who had to try to keep up with whatever musical Rhythm he was so true. Yeah, like it was so crazy like which like every night I mean we watched the anthem four times every night that he did the anthem It was like is he gonna be ahead of this note or behind this note? Like every single note Like I feel like the organ player. It's like they say that like dentists have the highest rate of suicide I think it's the Boston Bruins organ player.

It's just an unbelievable amount of stress I mean the main thing is like having tenure, right? Like if you've just been around long enough that you're all anyone's ever known for their entire life Sure. Yeah, it doesn't matter how bad you are at anything. Yeah, or how bad you get I mean I'm just presuming he was like passable at some point.

Yeah, I guess like fine. You're like grandpa basically at that point for the organization people I'm assuming they're like can we do this probably probably not yeah, it's the same reason that like Nope, we talked about this a couple weeks ago. Nobody's ever gonna tell Don Cherry when it's time to go like Bob Yeah, he was pissed, but yeah, he also gets pissed That's very true. I think I'm pretty sure Bob Cole was the Colombo guy to be honest Back off on that but I'm gonna say uh For me it would be something like with my hand like working construction or something because like I'm terrible like I'm not handy at all I'm terrible with my hands, but I've worked on a few job sites.

I worked in a warehouse for two summers I've seen the type of people that work there like a lot of construction companies are so desperate for people that like as long as you don't do drugs and Show up on time every day. You're almost never gonna get fired So I think for me that would be like the one where I don't know that I would succeed at it per se Like success is a big word to use because it says like what because we're near anchor. I mean, yeah technically he's succeeded Uh, so but I would be able to do that and like not be fired for sure for my whole life It's like a driver's that teacher or like so many teachers like young young drivers like because you think you're a shitty driver No, because I think no matter how much effort you put in like you were driving every day and like no matter how much your student is going to Observe from you. You're never going to be held responsible for that unless something catastrophic goes wrong Like where right you're in the car with your student and there's an accident like in general It seems like a pretty uh pretty okay.

Yeah, yes. Yeah, like if the car crashes it's your students fault, right? I mean, yeah, again though like that's something the worst case scenario Or landscaping was one of my other thing but again, you have to show up on time. It's up early so I don't know I don't know.

I'm I was trying to think of like what's something that like might be a cool job 30 years from now that exists right now that No one wants to do right now because that's basically what all these things are right? Like nobody nobody had the guts to think they could make it as the national anthem singer here the philadelphia flyers fucking 40 years ago or whenever he started doing Myers Oh, the Bruins. Sorry. Sorry.

Yes, the boss. I'm brewing. Oh, man. Uh, here's a career you'd be bad Name with remembering stuff name which fucking uh, yeah, I knew it was the Bruins short.

Well, I knew it was the Bruins I was thinking of the flyers also have that lady and she sings with like a dead guy on a screen I was thinking of teams who fad long time. The lady is dead on the screen. Oh, the lady is dead on the screen. It's like a smith Yeah, it's Kate Smith.

So they bring in an anthem singer to do a duet with a ghost every game basically We're gonna her daughter. It's quite touching. Oh, okay. Even in death.

You still can't rid yourself of her. Of course. Yeah, she's not gonna get to go out on her own terms This is your question. This is your question.

This is your question. What will the train conductor be cool again? I wasn't even cop also We're gonna unpack that in a second. I just want to make this joke for a sec But I think it's pretty fucked up that Kate Smith's daughter is still willing to sing after the broad street bullies did that to her Surround her and tilde That's just what happens to all the You think you could succeed as a cop?

I don't know. It's that no it's not I wouldn't succeed, right? Yes, it says it's like it's like it's like it's likely to succeed at whilst being objectively horrible Yeah, yeah, because like it's like it's like a teacher thing like once you're in How do you plan to get in? This is this is this is the Listen they're looking at each other.

It's a very pointed conversation Is feeling no no no listen this came up last week again the whole the whole rg s sports day thing and I listen to the Nick Dyke episode And you lied to Nick by the way you did yes You did say it would be a use sports team that you would be third and then when you tripled down on it You said it was like a college team. Anyway, it doesn't matter. It was always a use sports team No, it was always a pack West team. I always describe it.

It was CIS basketball 100% well, let's go. Let's check the tape We'll check the tape anyway. It doesn't matter what league was I talking about having work? No, that was after though That was why I brought it up in the first place.

That's always what I was talking about anyway It doesn't matter it clearly does but we'll move on it clearly does How do you okay? How do you think you're gonna be a cop? I just I get to choose it, right? Yeah, yeah, but you have to it's like extensive training you also have to not smoke weed for like two years I'm having yeah, exactly.

You haven't done like you have to like uh, you know You can't have any like shady like drinking shit in your past like you like shady drinking shit Saying that you do I don't mean that I don't mean it like I know that there's specific thing you've done I'm just saying they ask you a ton of questions to a lie detector So if they're like have you ever driven drunk have you ever done this drunk like whatever like I don't know that all of your answers would be no Maybe they are I'm just saying I could convince myself that it's yes Yeah, but if they ask me on the lie detector test would I be the third best player on a Pac West women's team if I said yes, the green line would go on because I just convinced myself that it's the truth So I thought you said it was a joke you just joking the whole time you're gonna be I'm just saying there are things I'm capable of convincing myself. Okay, sure sure Yeah, sure that the police questions would be one of them. Yeah, but you're hooked up to a lie detector Yeah, but I believe it when I say it. It's fine.

Well, I don't think that's how lie detectors work Uh, okay, so here's all I'm saying is like if you wanted to be a cop you would have to like train starting now like two years like no We have to get you'd have to be ready to pass all the physical like they it's insane going to depot I just don't think it's tough but I'm just saying if I say cop then I automatically get to be one and I'm obviously Okay, okay, I didn't realize those were the parameters Okay, okay, I understand how you're gonna become a teacher Oh boy, all right. Well, thank you Matt for the great question. Oh, I think the banks right it's probably trained conductor I like the idea that in this hypothetical scenario like just you feel like you can just come back to train tomorrow Like sometimes like well this button makes it go this button makes it stop so you're good Train twice a day. There's nobody even fucking driving.

That's true robot. So what what would I have to do? I'm just there to look after the robot. Well trains are different I don't think we're talking Skytrains.

I thought we were talking like train trains. Yeah, but if they can make a Skytrain do that I would not use Skytrains. I'll be the least technologically advanced of all trains So I think this is like the lowest common. I agree.

Okay, 300 point question Craig table at fruits are edible Sean Avery has dancing in front of the goalie Brad marsh on has licking people What would you bring to the ice that the NHL would eventually have to step in to put a stop to? I'd I would for sure I'd piss on someone Okay, how would you do that? Take my hockey stuff off Heck has lined up for the face off and he has not wearing any equipment. This is a bizarre time his pants Is that there's looks like there's a liquid coming from you try and play for Nashville so that people wouldn't know that you're pissing No, I play for like What the P with like a team that was like all white Well, they all wear all white shoes Vegas.

So yeah, the piss gets all over your gloves The golden there we go Yes, of course your signature move would be called the golden shower of course The ice piss That's the signature move name. Yeah, the ice piss Classic, I mean you can't argue with that. I was thinking myself that I would introduce the like rikishi like stinkface To the ice, but that would be my thing that the NHL would have to ask me to do But I don't know how I would do that. I don't know how I get the guy in position to just rub my ass in his face And also it's a step and sort of thing where I'd have to pull like the back of my No, no rikishi had his life I'm not doing that Yeah, but hockey pants.

I mean I think Oh, definitely do absolutely we can go get my hockey pants right now if you want to sit down rather not if you want to sit down and we'll just No problem. We can never that can be arranged actually have two pairs in there So I guess like you could do that to the goalie if he's like down in butterfly position If you hit someone if you hit someone and knock them over like it doesn't necessarily have to be that they're kind of like an upright position Yeah, you can kind of just like Yeah, I think they would have to ask him to stop stinking people but then they'd have to come out after the fact and say we actually technically never asked him to stop I think I go for a good disingenuous handshake Like I tried to shake the goalie's hand or go over the coat of the opposing team and try to shake their hand after scoring against them How about this now like do you like this? I think it'd be so antagonizing that you'd either be assaulted yourself or they would do it She definitely went up to the goalie and tried to shake his hand after you scored you would definitely get beat I like the opposing coach move though to just Stay up to the bench and be like what can he do really he can't lash out and like attack you He's gonna be like the room during the intermission as we learn That's true. That's true.

That's true. That's true. You're the best person to do that Well, I think actually you shouldn't even be like how do you like me now? You should do like the classic like give them a lot of credit because that's Over like after they play off series over That to us before even started absolutely.

Yeah, I give them a lot of credit You know they've got 59 win team over there, you know You're gonna be here for it to us as a snake which I think was the nicest thing anyone's ever called the Raptors Absolutely the head of the snake is lowering their ozone. Yeah, they murdered a snake pretty quickly. Yes. They did.

Yeah, uh super classy on your part Also as well as the bronze. Oh, of course, you know over that's all that's all anybody's gonna say on Twitter It's like classy move to bang. Yeah, yeah Listen, I want to give your guys a lot of credit try to stop me from scoring and I have to give them a lot of credit on that Look at the bang out there. I Yeah, absolutely explain the game the right way Always try to shake everyone's hands.

I like that I I'm gonna borrow a little bit of a little bit of Jackson playfare here because we when we had him on the show last he was talking about how he Would try and get players distracted before the draws by asking them if they wanted to trade sticks Uh, and so I would actually like try to trade I would be trading but I would actually trade six with players Like I would be like force. I would be forcefully trading sticks with them or I would like go to the other teams equipment manager Be like I need to stick like let's go like I just want to be trading sticks all the time So I'll be my whole thing and they'd be like hey, listen, you gotta use your own stick like you get sticks for free You know that like we don't need our sticks and I'd be like, yeah, no, give me the sticks That's my deal. You'll be fair, right? But absolutely like when Bobby Ryan scored with mico koi-voo stick Be like that but just like every game until it told me it seems unfair to not be able to use their equipment That's what I'm saying.

I didn't you know that's it precisely All right classy always looking at the rules always inspecting the other team sticks I'm glad we got to the bottom of this though another fine mailbag of course Of course and we will go from there into everybody's favorite segment because it means we're on the home stretch The cherry on top of our cynical Sunday where we pick the things we like from the world at large one good thing He's a lot of people love each other the world will be a better place to live gentlemen. What do you like this week? I like a video game. Do you ever play like left for dad or any of those games?

Yeah, yeah, no killing floor, too No, yeah, so this is uh, this is called war hammer vermin tide too. Oh It's uh it's 30 dollars And it's I've never played like a war hammer game before but I know about the war hammer universe. It's like a shooting game No, it's not like a real-time strategy is this canon as well? No, it's it's like a leopard ed style No, I'm just like like first person like hack and slash game But it's the same gameplay as leopard ed where it's a team of four and you're dealing with these like mobs of monsters coming after you Um, but it's all it's all like sword or axe based combat for the most part with like some range stuff But it's such satisfying combat because you're just like slicing rats and half and stuff and yeah, so that's uh vermin tide too for computer ps4 and xbox one There you go.

It's pretty good. I think that up. I think that it's 30 bucks I mean, it's probably like 40 bucks in Canada, but it's it's worth it regardless. Oh, it's super super fun How big are the levels like what's the level design like it's like leopard ed style levels where it's like you get from one end to the other There's like missions and it goes about It's like 13 missions and they're pretty long like, you know, 25 minutes to half an hour each And that's all like easy difficulty and obviously you can up the difficulty We were playing it on twitch where there's an integration that Allows twitch chat to like vote on which enemies come after you and stuff.

So it's really fun nice. No, right? Cool. I next time you guys are doing that let me know and i'm gonna get jesse's enemy on him the irs Okay, there's no way that guy's paying taxes Uh, i'm probably gonna recommend a video game next week.

I just haven't had time to play it yet It's a little cry five for some shoes, but I mean I sent a lot of money into purchasing it So I hope i'm recommending it next week I mean I hope so too, but i'll be waiting with baited to breath what I am going to recommend this week is a documentary that is available On netflix currently it's only 60 minutes long. So it's pretty easy viewing experience god knows I don't want to think for more than an hour exactly just keep it keep it light keep it tight I'm gonna hear in 60 minutes. Absolutely. That is exactly what it does.

It's called the Carter effect It's a documentary about Vince Carter's tenure with the Toronto Raptors So for all those people out there who are like what am I doing? What is the last 25 years of my life been about why did any of this happen? It kind of explains exactly that and how you know vince and like the vince enemy phenomenon is like I won't say solely responsible But a huge influence on the fact that like there's obviously been a massive surge in Canadian talent in the nba and like Canadian basketball in general Like both, you know, like, you know, seen wiggens go high at the draft and then um andrew benethere before that and RJ bear the christa Thompson RJ bear coming to do now is like the number one over all recruit Yeah, next dasquez went like 29th i think in his draft year two and like kelly olinic They're all in the documentary talking about jama Going up in the ontario area and like, you know being huge fans of vince and kind of like every single Kelly olinic has a line about like attending one of his camps or whatever as a kid and he's like I'm sure he's done a million camps and he doesn't remember me But I definitely remember him and like it was crazy to me how often that like not just like the the phenomenon of vince carter in toronto Like inspired these kids, but how often he's like firsthand involved in their lives as well like nix dasquez tells this amazing story about Going to an uh, vince carter like charity Events at the acc and just like he just had a feeling when he woke up in the morning that for whatever reason He was gonna be invited to go out on the court and like shoot around with vince and ultimately that did happen Like he's like it's from like 10 years old And he like he goes outside for an hour with and like gets warmed up at their house before they go into the city to attend the game And then vince invites him onto the floor to shoot around at this like big charity event in front of a packed acc And he drains like four of the five shots he takes and like gets tackled to the ground excitedly by vince carter afterwards and like Talks about a huge moment in his life. It is and it's just awesome to hear all these stories It's also produced by drake so he's like heavily involved in the documentary and talks a lot about Uh the way that kind of vince grew the culture of toronto as well because he like i mean founded his own nightclub When he started there to like bring a kind of american nightlife experience to the visiting nva players He was really like he was killing it on the floor and like in the city at the same time It's about like how he grew up in front of that city and how the city grew around him and uh, it's a great documentary I really enjoyed the hell out of it.

It's on Netflix. It's called the cargo effect. Well, you don't have to watch it now Didn't All right, I'd also like to recommend a documentary. It's called the carter effect It's about uh, jimmy carter being the first president to be born in a hospital how it's cool to be born in hospitals And uh close it off.

I guess i guess i'm just joking i'm gonna yeah, well you can go before me if you don't want to go last I don't know. I'd like to recommend a book. I was gonna do one as well, but yeah, let's both do a book Okay, but it's good. Some people that listen to the show like to read which is shocking.

I know But this book is called it's by past guest and very popular guest charlie demeris. Oh, I really want to read this book Yeah, it's great. He just wrote a book called property values and it might only be available in canada right now But i'm sure you could get it online if you're an american listener and really like charlie Uh, it's basically a book about how we were talking earlier about not being able to afford real estate in vancouver And the book is basically about a guy who uh Co owns a house with his x wife's dad that they like bought it together when they were married and now he the x wife's dad wants to sell and so he wants to plummet the value of the house so that the x wife's dad won't sell it and so he Uh, fakes a drive by shooting at the house so that people think that the house is on a block that is run by a gang And so that it lowers the value of the house like it's targeted property Yeah, exactly and so it's just all about that. It's very funny charlie's an excellent writer and Yeah, exactly he was I think just finishing writing it when he was on the show So if you're a fan of his appearance on the show, I mean he's written lots of great books We talked about that when he was here, but this is his newest one and I think you'll dig it property values charlie demeris Sweet.

All right. I will recommend the hell fi club by jake tapper What's it about? That's it. That's it.

That's it's about the the classic x mandalance I'm gonna be honest. I did not have one in mind that was really sold on but I just seen jake tapper do a tv appearance about said book Okay, and he really seemed to enjoy talking about it. So I'm like, yeah, but I have a pretty good thing. So okay.

Yeah Okay, it's the bastion shot and uh Uh, you know those other ex-men villains who make a hell of a club That's fairly really the McCarthy idea in Washington also about to go a secret club almost as well You seem to really enjoy writing it so It's a it's a political thriller. It is number 12 most sold on amazon right now in instant new york times bestseller It says he he really loved writing it. Yeah, exactly. That's it's actually the the you know how sometimes they put quotes on the cover It just actually says I enjoyed writing this All right, well, I guess don't blame us if it sucks Um, yeah, the number one thing about that rap documentary made just really made me want a grizzly's documentary Oh, because it's like that's the counter example right of like how Canadian basketball experiment could have gone without like a star to actually anchor it will get uh We'll get guy Nick fiercen on the show.

We'll get him to do a bonus episode and then do two to this month And then I'll convince him to do a documentary. Well, he can be the documentary. Yeah, we'll do it together Well That will do it for this week's episode our roommates have been heather and ben our producer gamm cuz that oh studiously silent as usual. Thank you very much, Daniel.

He spoke last week. I hope people enjoyed that I certainly did our guest the wonderful devang decide to vang you have a podcast it is called the sport chronicle Would you like to promote it further? Yeah, if you like sports tonight listen to it's what I would say He enjoys making loves making I mean as my one of my idols take tap And you and Simon just take like seminal moments from yesterday every week things in the past things have maybe happened Kind of too recently is just a next you should talk about shit We like to talk about so if you're in if you're a keener as a sportsman Check it out. Yeah, you brought me on to talk about the 2011 cup final Which was tied into the sibines retiring and you edited out the truest thing that I said Which is the connex definitely would have won the copy for all of those injuries I mean this is no spin zone and that I That's been heavy.

It's been heavy. It's true, but there's no way to quantify. I just love saying it though Uh, it is true though. Yes, you're right You want to support the show and we got three bonus episodes coming your way this month Two special ones and of course the monthly mailbag guys were usually can head on over to patreon.com slash real good show kick us five bucks Or whatever you feel like honestly help keep the lights on around here Which is gonna be true again as next month we have officially the real good studio space and I'm really looking forward to that never building it Hell yeah, if you build it they will mochap I mean Kevin costed said that to you I mean We might have a green screen wall and everything yeah, I don't know what is good for mocha, you know Because like people be like oh you'll love this room.

You love the acoustics. I don't know what the mochap equivalent No, I think I feel that's that's where it has well. We cannot provide that But if you would like a small limited space studio, I mean I will however be building three lycra green suits covered in ping pong balls Look for that. That's how that is gonna Mochap suits are black.

Oh, are they yeah? Yeah, well I mean The mochap stuff when I see it on film sets and stuff and like behind the scenes photos It's got weird patterns on it. It's like tribal like black and white kind of you know boxes and what's in the music is shit Yeah, that's true different that's different from just getting like the position of your body as you yeah Make a save or take a crap or whatever, you know whatever It always of course helps us if you rate and review the show wherever you get it But I think it's just the iTunes store really that takes reviews and helps us out in their algorithm And you can find us online real good show.com is the blog of course with pictures and videos of everything we talk about each and every week Before you wrap up gentlemen, is there anything you'd like to plug? No, seven Oh, we can't hear you anymore Well, we lost definitely well I do have some things I'd like to plug if you're in vancouver this weekend you want to come see some great comedy shows come to little mountain gallery There's two shows friday night and two shows saturday night and they're both going to be awesome We're trying to build uh, we need new toilets.

So keeping it on brand, but we we need new toilets So we're doing uh, we're doing four fundraiser shows There's alicia tobans come draw with me early friday, which I will not be on but i'll be on all the other three We're part of a bigger showcase on saturday early and then saturday late is the return of rap battle So if you never seen rap battles, I will be I will be a part of that show as well. So come on through I have nothing to plug. Okay. Thank you for weighing in the van you already plugged the sports ronicle You can find that on iTunes and twitter too.

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