# 145 - Kristin & Jocelyn

Today I talk to my friends Kristin Macdermott, who is a resilience therapist and Jocelyn Baker, who is a ghost writer. We talk about bad influences, talking to our kids about drugs, teens becoming more distant, chores, parenting during a pandemic, and much more!    You can get Kristin & Jocelyn’s “Resilience Based Parenting” Course and apply for a scholarship at http://www.macdermottmethod.com/wotp    Get a necklace/mask and a Wife of the Party bracelet by my friend Nathalie B Designs here: https://nathaliebdesigns.com/products/leeann-stack    You can get 20% off Natural Skin Care, Hand Sanitizer, and more until the end of May at www.privai.com when you use the code “WOTP20” at checkout.    Check out the new Wife of the Party Facebook groups here: http://www.facebook.com/pg/wifeotp/gr...     I have WOTP merch! You can buy a brand new Wife of the Party mug, shirt, or a tote bag at http://www.wifeotp.com     If you have any questions you would like me to answer on the podcast feel free to email me from my website at http://www.wifeotp.com     Don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review the podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices