That's wrong. Well, you're gonna hold it and drive it the same. No, I was just running here, so I don't have to have that. This fuck it, it keeps parking there, right?
And it's a no-stopping. And, and, and, and, apparently, Cairns cancel, if you had to move this, like, dude, this, the car's still gonna park there, not like, if no one comes to book, if you know someone's gonna book him, get the bottles. Yeah, they're putting in fucking speed hubs everywhere. No, I fix the bottles.
Fix the fucking bottles, it's like a no-drive. Fuck it. And they're working at Triple Time and a Half. Look.
Good morning, good afternoon, evening, I'm listening to the old talk, car, pod, cast, posted tonight by Peter Roddess and our Wilton stuffer. We've got a live drive, it's not an electric car, but you can hear the vibration through the microphone. That's an engine mount. Oh, ah, ah, ah.
The vibration from the engine. Oh, thanks mate. Well, no, if you put it in neutral, yeah, it dies down a bit. Yeah, it's a group out.
Engine mount. All right, we're driving. Cause I'm the load, automatic evox. We're in a Porsche 968, Cabriolet.
In winter, in winter, with a river. With a, with a, it's too fucking cold. So, try to get the roof down, I'm straight up the settings right, because we didn't, we just went straight into it. So basically, this is one of my cars.
This is my first Porsche, I've had it for a couple of years now. I've always loved this car when it first came out. If you don't know what a 968 is, Google it. It's the last of the 944 era Porsche.
It was a front engine. It was like the baby Porsche, front engine. Three litre, four, seven, I'm gonna give you some big block. Big block four cylinder.
I'm gonna run through some stats. Or if you put that into perspective, right? Three litre, four, seven, that's pretty much like, it's half of a LS, B8, six litre of B8. Mate, this, true.
It was in line four. So some stats were this car. So basically they only built for about three years, from 92 to 95 during the world. It was a recession in the early 90s.
So this is like the last era for Porsche. It's basically based on the 944. So it's like a final update from the 944. It's got the three litre four cylinder engine.
176 kilowatts in its day. It was the world's most powerful, non-aspirated four cylinder engine. It had 305 million mens of tour. It's a tiptronic transmission.
So it's like a four speed. And it adjusts back in the day that four modes, which would electronically adjust to your driving style. So, but the up down is the wrong way around. Yeah, but that was Porsche.
That was standard German. I know, every time. They did that with a few years later with the BMWs with the SMG. I was SMG on that too.
Yeah, wrong way. And the Mercedes-style, you know, one fucking one guy left right. Yeah. And then finally, 20 years later, they went, you know what, if you're down shifting.
Go and go four, just go and set it. BMW was the first Porsche, and he just started doing it now. And then the push me pull you toggles, which is, this hasn't got any buttons on the steering wheel, so far, on the horn. No, it's like the pedals.
Not to 107 seconds, how? That was brisket in today. Brisket in today, yes. 16 inch wheels.
Wow. And it's designed by Anne L'Aqué. You know, that is he's a Dutch designer who designed the original 924. Then he went to BMW and designed the BMW 7.1.
You know, the car, the BMW convertible with the doors slide down. He designed that. And then he came back to Porsche and did the 968, the 993 911, the 996 911. It was not the pedigree.
Boxster, and KN. And he retired in 2004. So he basically saved Porsche, went, Porsche, built the basic with the box to get some money in, and then they were the first to build the four-wheel drive KN. The 968 Porsche.
The 968, I remember one of them. I was that agent's at the time, you know, like the late 90s, bought an 968 C.S. Yes. So this is a cracking car.
And, but he totaled it by, he wasn't fairly confident drive-on, but his ego got the better of him. And he went out on his semi-slick tyres on a rainy night in Sydney. And basically centered across a median strip at the speed of the total. So that's one of my statistics.
I can't even know that. So basically during that time, only 68 coups were sold in Australia. 29 club sports. So now there's only got 28 left.
Well, there's no more than 28. And there's only 13 cab relays. Ooh. So it's a very rare.
Sounds like you've done some research. That's too recent. You're like advertising too. Sorry.
And the prices was weird because the club sport is fetching big dollars now. Oh yeah. And that was the time where less is more, but Porsche was charging less and less. So I think the club sport was only $120,000 in 1993.
Coupe was $140,000. That was a lot of money. You got to know what this was? What?
$162,000. Wow. Plus on roads. So this was $180,000.
That's a lot of money today. No, okay. Let's put this into perspective, right? Dollar for dollar.
We're in the real estate business, right? And we know people. So what year was that? 1993.
So 1993. 168 plus one road. 180,000. In 1993.
What you at least met what? What you minimum of three units in a little more. What makes them? Right?
Yeah, 50, 70,000. That was 60, 70,000. Yeah. So could have bought three cash units.
Okay. Which at the moment is going to bring you around 9,000,000. So you're going to have to have a little more. So could have bought three cash units.
Okay. Which at the moment is going to bring you around 9,000 to a million. Plus all the income. Yeah.
So this was a ridiculous amount of money coming out of a recession to buy a car. Yeah. Right? And it's probably 13.
13. And it's funny because around that time, we had a friend of ours that bought a 268 Mercedes. Yes. With a, it was a 260,000.
So that's the middle. That wasn't the 300. That wasn't the 300. That was the 300.
Was that big boy? No. Nice car. Okay.
Right. That was a little sick. No, that was an angie. No, that was an angie.
No, that was an angie. No, that was an angie. No, that was around 100 grand back then. Which again, was a couple of units.
Yep. And this friend of ours recently sold that for like 10 grand. We were going to buy this. We were going to buy this.
We were going to buy this. Oh, the car was very warm. Yeah. But, you know, not all expensive cars.
If you, at the time, you probably could have probably probably could have probably had a Jagda, uh, three hours, like a three-two-way Ferrari. Mate, for that money's big. Even $180,000 today is big money. Not 30 or 29 years ago.
Yes. It's a 29-year-old car. Yeah. Well, again, when you put it into perspective, that's like going out and buying an Appentador now.
True. Or a GT2 RS. Okay. Or whatever.
A big pay down. A big car. That's not just buying one of those. Um, let's see.
I don't. Seen them out of money. And then it's just why there's only 30 people in the front of you. And I don't pay that much for you.
But this one's in good nick. This is something like blue. I tell you, it's been how much it's paid for you. You know, tell us how...
Well, a couple of years ago, you know? Yeah. Payed by $45,000. $3,000.
And they've been advertised about $75. But this is a really well looked after car. And I was looking for this car. I've loved it from what I was a teenager.
And I was looking for a good eight years. There's a lot with a lot of Ks. This one only had $130,000. Yeah.
And it's the color that I really loved. Is that purpley color? I saw one when I was 20 years old. Yeah.
So, no, it's around. You're not going to wait for it. Yeah. So, this is a really nice color that shoots a car.
Yeah. And it's got the green color. Yeah. It's a really good color combination.
Does this need a paint correction? I don't know what it means. Because our good friend, Ayman, he needs a wheel alignment. We can organize that.
Our good friend Ayman at the leading edge, he needs a victim. He needs a dark-colored car for some training. Yeah. So what?
Like paint correction. Like teenagers are going to get a car. No, no, no. He's got some new crew members who are very experienced who will be supervising.
Yeah. And I think he's going to do a really cracking deal on basically charge for a detail that you get for paint correction. Oh, I love my bad. Ayman's always good guys.
So, if you ever hit us up and say, let us know when, um, Ayman needs a victim, okay? I'll volunteer. Um, what part of the detail is wrong? Yeah.
Quirk's at the castle. You've been driving it. That's the first time you've driven it. Yes.
I mean, hang, hang, drive it. It's pretty planted on the road. It's like, it's firm. It's not, it's not jarring.
And for like a 30-year-old cabula, it's pretty. But you've never really done, you haven't spent any of it. No, hardly really. Yeah.
Look, you could probably, even though it does right for you to be all but, you know what? You could probably just need to maybe, or shares and rubbers and stuff. Yeah. But, like, not a lot.
It won't need a lot. It's just going to be maintenance because regardless of if it had 13,000 kilometres, or 130,000, um, for the, 30 odd years, the rubbers are 30. It's not, well, they deteriorate. They drive, especially when you're not driving.
Yeah. We're just down at Mexico, we're on a tyre road. So basically, Quirk's at the car. They say the front end has got those pop-up lights.
So, it's, the front end is, is mocks the 928. They'll just give you the sport. Sorry, but can you imagine, back in 93, paying the equivalent of three apartments. And this is the one you got?
It's the road, it's not getting right now. But the roads weren't any better back in the year, though. No. But what I'm thinking is I said 928.
A 928 GTS, the last hurrah in the early 90s, because they stopped making this at the same time as a 928. That was a $220,000 car, right? No. And this was a 180.
Yeah. And the 928. Oh, there was an heavy, heavy, bigger cruiser for the 8 of a car. Where this was, like, before the box stuff.
Um, this is, if Hal gives it through some corners, he'll feel that it really handles, you know, it doesn't oversteer, we call it oversteering. But you can really push it through corners. Um, another quick on the car, it's a four-speed, ten-trony, but when you take off, it takes off in a second. So if you put it in the, um, gear modes, it'll take off in first.
Or if you plant the accelerator down, um, it locks in a first. So, again, that was a German gearbox-type work. The Mercedes-Ump Ants-S-Class used to do that as well. Take off in a second.
Then it'll place off as a... No, no! But it needs a man, look at Blinker. So, um, and the Blinker is, when you take a Blinker on the dash, it's just one light for the final light.
So you don't have to indicate it with the left or right? That's so not German. Um, don't want to punch it. And if no one has showed you how to open the roof, you'll never fucking know.
So, basically, it's an electronic... Oh, you've got a YouTube. So, basically, it's an electronic... We have to look for the boot for the last minute.
That was an OK hour. So, it's an electronic roof. Like, you've got the button that goes up and down. But, OK, we've got the recorder.
That's working, it's very smooth. You're not going to get in trouble with this car. No, no, no. It's like a big engine, Lazy MX-5.
Um, so, basically, there's two holes, if you lift your head up in the roof... Yeah, yep, yep. So, there's two key, like little spanner, with plastic handles. One's for the left, one's for the right.
And you don't know which one's which, and I'm thinking of putting L and R stickers on them. But, like, so you've got to put them in, and one way opens, one way, and when you put them the other side, it opens the other way. So, again, it's not like you're opening a tap. It's two different ways to unlock the bolts, and then the roof retracts.
And then, it doesn't fold in. So, it sits on the boot, and you've got to cover in the boot. I've never used it. Or you can then clip in, like, I'll cover it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, um, whenever I open the roof, I've just left it sitting on the, on the boot. But the other quick, and then, and I'm thinking, the Germans are pretty switched on. This car max out at 250 Ks.
I think you'd need those latches in here. Back in the 90s. You don't want your hood tearing off at 250 Ks. No, definitely.
So, I've got to feeling those latches, that manual sort of step is basically there to protect the roof from getting blown off at 250 Ks. So, that's a good thing. So, that's a good thing. I'm going to put that on the roof.
So, that's a good thing. It's a 50 K there. So, that's another quality. We're going to go over this car to see if anyone actually did 250, you know, 90s I can.
Ah, mate. That's what it said. You know what? If they didn't, we're going to try it.
We're going to try it. Yeah, not tonight. That's too cold. I'll do it.
It's not cold. It's up radio roof. So, basically, that's the story of the 90s, right? It's nice.
It's a, it's a, you're not going to sort of set that records. Yeah. I think, I think, I think that, I think that, I think that somebody who can get this suspension. It just feels too harsh even for a 40, 90's eight.
And it's a bit rattly. So it could be just dry, dry pouches, you know, just some suspension components that need a bit of love. Another feature I like the dash, the lights are a bit deep at the moment, but it's your, it's similar layout. The nine, it's the same font as the nine to eight, and the nine six eight.
It's not a nine 11 type dash, but they've got the sort of four dials across. Very simple, very German, it's everything there. But what they, what pouches still do, and they did back in the day, is it's got, so it's two columns, you've got your left column, which shows part reverse drive, neutral, and the right column, it's got one, two, three, four. So lights up what gear you're in.
So which is quite rare in its day. And even what it casts today, I mean, I know a lot of the digital displays we've got gear in, but this is like individual little red lights on the dash and tell you what gear you're in. It's got a cassette deck. I don't know if it's got a CD player in the boot, I've been checked.
It's got a clock, it's got a light, it's got a temperature gauge for outside. And it's scattered all over the dash. It's got a big round button to open the headlights. It has a light, the air con.
It's all sort of laid out. It's a little headlight button. It's behind on your left behind the signal. So it's sort of button to sort of scout it everywhere, but it's not as bad as say, no, that's the part of it.
It's just, well, I'm jagged on it, this is the part it's, where they went, I'm shit, where they went, where they forgot to put the headlight button in, where should we put it? Well, let's put it in the op- And the high beam light is a push button on your left foot. I'm the left foot for jagged, I say. It sort of makes sense.
The coups came with the rear seat with her capri-lays, so you've got a partial shelf and two little cubby holes behind the front seats. And there's a bar, I don't know what the bar is, but it sort of moves up, you can tie it in. That's something I need to look at. But, hey, overall, it's not an EV.
We'll have to do it, yeah. We'll have to go drive when there's water. Yeah, there's no easy engine noise. It's not that bad next to it.
So it's not like an EV, so you can actually hear it, but it's not all really pleasurable. What's that? KTM. KTM.
Orange. Orange is the giveaway. Is that the color? Is it KTM?
Yeah, well, you know the car news. Car news? No, the car news. I had time to kill the other day.
So I popped into a BMW dealership, and just take a couple of them around. What do they got new? What's going on? You know, everyone knows car prices at the moment are all over the shop.
So they had a brand new M340iX. Yes, right. So it's the AWD drive. It's an AWD drive.
It's really not a twin-turbo, six. Six minutes? It's an end light. It's an end light.
It's not an end car, but it's a nice car. You know, there's that term in the auto industry. Sticker shop? Sticker shop was an understatement.
It was more like a sticker electrifying. Sticker electrified? No, it's like $145,000 on loan. Now, to put that in perspective, I paid, when I bought my M3, what, three years ago?
Yeah. It was the last of the... It was an LCI. It was an update.
It was an update. It was an R3. And that was the F80. And I got looked after from our friends at Sylvania BMW.
I paid 120 for that. Right. Right. Off the floor.
So two years later, okay? A lesser car, three years later, a lesser car is $25,000 more. And now the M3 is close to 180. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay. COVID happened, mate. That's like a...
Like, okay, you might say, if it went up 10% a year, it would have been a certain price. But we're talking, you paid 1.20. We're talking 20% a year now. This is what's happening.
We've said it before. So basically, the world is sort of coming back together, chip shortage, whatever, supply change shortage. We're still not locked down, but the usual trade routes aren't open, okay? So they're going to satisfy markets that are more hungry.
Australia is the R's end of the world. BMW ain't going to bring their cars here first. They're going to satisfy the Europeans and the Americans. And we're just going to get whatever's left on the shelf.
And the dealers know they've got limited supply. They have to stick to their profits. They've got big expenses. They've got big show routes.
They've got half the cars. The second hand car yards are empty. So all they've got to do is ramp up the prices, supply and demand. Okay.
So I think the manufacturers have wired up as well. And they say, you know what, we don't need to build as many cars to make the same margins. Yes, but you've got companies like MG, you know, I'm talking about Australian markets. Yeah.
Their supply chain hasn't really been that effective. And you can go, if you want to brand your car, you can go to MG or maybe KR. Not the popular Kia models, but the... Well, the popular for a reason.
But not the, like, I'm sure you can find a Kia, what are the hatchback schools? Kia Serados. Serados. Really?
The one thing about Australia, which is why BMW and Saines Porsche, AMJ, have always sent their top-spec cars in because Australians buy the top-spec cars in the last year. So it was just easier always than the Australian-spec version B, C63s, where another car can stay off as the C63s. That's right. That's right.
Everything's an option. Here, it came loaded for a few options. Right. So even most of your cars now, like, if you go to order a C200, chances are the demos or the use ones have all got panel roof, they've all got the vision pack, they've all got the command pack because they'll always order like that.
You will not find a P of a pack. It's just unbelievable. Oh, and I saw a Pofo pack 300 series. It looks weird.
Yeah, it's awkward. It's the first I've seen a Pofo pack was a duck wood colour. It looked weird. Anyway, that's the live driver tonight.
So 968, thumbs up, Al? Thumbs up. Thumbs up. There's a nice car for 30s, Al.
Nice cruiser. Nice to have this in the state. And I'll never forget when I brought it home, my wife goes, what are you doing with Billy's MX-5? It was the same colour, and she thought I had a fucking MX-5, couldn't kill her.
But I played a long track turning, so... No, but yeah, it does. I played along for a couple of months, so she doesn't know that I bought it, but she figured it out afterwards. So, radar's for review.
I've got some big news. How knows about it. I'm going to wait for the other clown to come back from overseas. He's flying in tonight.
So, I think I'm going to reveal the big news next episode. So, Roscoe can hear it as well. So, basically, we're going to go back to a normal show. A few guests have said they've got the Tesla coming up for the next live drive.
So, back to quiet cars. I don't know if it's a performance or not, so I don't know if it's a performance or not. I don't know if it's going to have headaches for two days. Like the iPhone will be right.
So, that's the next live drive. Big news on the next episode with my upcoming trip to see my... And radar's reviewers download it, like it. Give us your messages.
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We're pretty good. Yeah, we're pretty good. We're all pretty good. We're all pretty nice.
You're a nice to my car tonight. Give it a bit. No. So, just a river there.
Thank you for listening and bye for now.