146 Transformational leadership expert Barry Pogorel talks about the new normal.

The coronavirus experience is unprecedented in our time for leaders. How do we make our way through the uncertainty and fear? Transformational leadership expert Barry Pogorel and I talk about there is no 'going back to normal'. We need instead to create a new normal. This offers huge opportunities! In our energising and uplifting conversation, we get down to brass tacks on what leaders need to do to start crafting their own new normal. 👉🏼 Want to share you experience? Ask a question? Share a resource? Jump on our podcast Facebook page here. Why you should listen: If you need to know where to start in dealing with uncertainty and acknowledge what is here right now To understand why taking a stand is the most powerful thing you can do to catalyse a new possible future To recognise the power of questions to drive new possibilities We explore: The Leadership Crisis - what is contributing to the challenges Authenticity and integrity - requirements for effective action Deep listening as a core part of overcoming the leadership crisis *** SHOWNOTES: www.zoerouth.com/podcast/barrypogorel Books and resources mentioned: Language is the house of the truth of Being - Letter on Humanism (1947) by Martin Heidegger "Be patient toward all that is unsolved in your heart and try to love the questions themselves, like locked rooms and like books that are now written in a very foreign tongue. Do not now seek the answers, which cannot be given you because you would not be able to live them. And the point is, to live everything. Live the questions now. Perhaps you will then gradually, without noticing it, live along some distant day into the answer." ― Rainer Maria Rilke, from Letters to a Young Poet Antifragile - Things that gain from disorder by Nassim Nicholas Taleb Deep Listening by Oscar Trimboli The Wright Brothers by David McCullogh About Barry: Barry Pogorel is a catalyst for breakthrough performance. 40 years coaching and training over 10,000 leaders worldwide has given him a unique opportunity to discover and systematize a sophisticated, rigorous, transformational coaching method to enable leaders to achieve the impossible. Barry's first career was as a painter, exhibiting in New York and Los Angeles, including showing a body of his work at the Whitney Museum of American Art.  A lifelong student and thinker, he became fascinated with the process of creativity itself and the nature of breakthrough performance in any given field. He began studying ontological philosophy, complex systems science, linguistics, and neuroscience. Around 1980, Barry shifted his primary focus to leadership coaching and development through the discipline of transformational learning.  Barry's clients include leaders of Deluxe Film Laboratories ("Color by Deluxe"), Atlantic Records, Microsoft, Starwood Hotels, Broadcom, and The Wall Street Journal. He resides in Culver City, California. *** Related Episodes: How to evolve your leadership maturity E88 - Stop burnout now! There is a better way E121 - Go forward every day but make sure you take the lesson - Rachel Hind *** About your podcast host, Zoë Routh: Zoë Routh is one of Australia's leading experts on people stuff - the stuff that gets in our way of producing results, and the stuff that lights us up. She works with the growers, makers, builders to make people stuff fun and practical. Zoë is the author of four books: Composure - How centered leaders make the biggest impact,  Moments - Leadership when it matters most, Loyalty - Stop unwanted stuff turnover, boost engagement, and build lifelong advocates, and People Stuff - Beyond Personalities: An advanced handbook for leadership. People Stuff was awarded Book of the Year 2020 by the Smart WFM Australian Business Book Awards. Zoë is also the producer of The Zoë Routh Leadership Podcast. www.zoerouth.com