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Jan 27, 2025 52 min

147. Fulvia La Vida

from Retrospection Hosted by Colin and Paul

In this episode we’re on the run from the Star Maidens (1976). Along the way Paul finds his perfect world, Colin demands an inflatable ball, and both want to live in a 70’s scifi future.

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Oh, hello there and thank you for joining us with another episode of Retrospection. So sit down and pour out your favourite drink as we cozy up to some starmadons. A sci-fi series from 1975, 1976 and the best German British crossover since World War II. Stelly-otten?

What? Oh, too soon? Okay. Alright, and the best German England crossover since 1966.

Don't know if you know, but England won the World Cop Against Germany. I thought I'd elaborate because England fans don't still bang on about it. No, I heard that. Is that fact?

Is that true? It is true. Oh, wow. That's funny.

They never cropped up in conversation at all. Doesn't matter. Ever. No.

My name's Colin and we've made contact for Cinity Neptune moving to Uranus. It wouldn't be the first time. But hopefully, we'll be the last. Because that's a big orbit with a lot of mass.

Well, that's not as much these days. Shrinking. It makes us a disgusting thing to do to beat. Yes, wrapping.

And my name's Paul and if you can achieve total annihilation of matter, you have a light source of massive density and potential thrust. Oh, you like a potential thrust? I do. I like the anticipation of it, Colin.

That used to be a nickname at school. What potential thrust? Yeah. It's got a lot of potential.

Not much for us. This is true. It's true in my life. I mean, this is why I'm doing this podcast, really.

Yes. Yes. I think what you could have been if you'd had more thrust and potential. Not doing this.

Is that what you say? Yeah. TVDB says that the planet from another solar system drifts into Earth's system and is detected by some Earth scientists who investigate. OK.

Let's close an office, I suppose. Look at that. That is what happens. Yes.

It's kind of missing one of the most important points, are block points. But all right. It is. It is.

Yeah. So I made him stairs, Judy Geeson as for via. Yeah. And I say Geeson, even though I would have said Geeson, but I watched interview with Gareth Thomas and that's how he pronounced it.

Well, if he's good enough for Gareth Thomas, it's good enough for us. Yes. It goes for a lot of things, really. It really does.

He really does. He's not with us anymore, is he? I don't mean to hear. He's not.

I mean, I mean, Gareth, are you with us? He's gone to the big liberator in the sky, isn't he? I see. I think so.

OK. I mean, it could be wrong. Good walking any minute for all I know. Could have gone to the tiny R rack.

Haven't we all call it? Yeah. Yeah. Wait, I've done that yet already.

No. All right. Christian Krueger as Octavia, Gareth Thomas as Shem, P.S. Bryce as Adam, Derek Farrs Evans and Lisa Harrow as Liz.

I think it's a good cast. I certainly wasn't expecting to see Judy Geeson. They are remembered in this. I should have never seen this before.

I mean, I were. I've never seen it before. Right. Right.

Yeah. So it was all a surprise for me. Oh, but is it a good surprise? Or is it the turd at the bottom of your Christmas tree surprise?

Well, find out. But you know me. I can't hold it in for too long. No, no.

I have issues. So Stan made us rant for one series of 13 episodes. So you've seen this before, right? Yes.

So I want to ask you, is there a conclusion? Because I, you know, if I decide to watch more, which I'm not giving away, then I'm going to, but is there a conclusion? I have not seen the last episode. Oh, you're not helped by it.

Well, I could tell you that there was no plan to do a second series. They weren't when they signed contracts. There was no option for a second series. So that might bode well for a conclusion, hopefully.

Might do. Might be for the show that's, well, 1975. Yeah, 1975. Although I'll talk about this in a bit, but the earliest I can find that it was shown in the UK is 77.

Oh, so maybe they made it and then they held it for a while because they didn't know what to do with it. Yeah, maybe they made it but it was shown in Germany first because we should point out that this is partly funded by the German company, Verbonne in the Rondfunk. Yes. Yes.

It's an ITV and German co-production. Oddly, each episode is only 25 minutes long. Yeah, it feels to me like maybe they were supposed to be longer and then they've chopped them in half a little bit because they end in weird places, that these two that we're going to talk about, they end in weird places. They do, yeah.

So it feels like maybe they were one episode originally? Yeah, it was filmed at the same time as the second series of Space 1999. And whilst it's filmed in a different studio from that show, Keyfals and was a production designer for both of them. So props and set designs for Space 1999 were repurposed for Stan Maiden's.

You can see that. It does have a very, very Space 1999 vibe to it. It does, yeah. Mike Vard is a set dresser and he worked on Space 1999.

There you go. There you go then. Sound editor Peter Penil worked on Space 1999. So a lot of the audio effects are also from that show.

Yeah, there's one in particular that really struck me up. It's a computer noise. You know, because it's got these big wall computers, a bit like Space 1999. And by that time, they make those same beeping noises that they do in that show.

Yes, I agree. Pierre Bryce was dubbed by Robert Rieti, although in Germany, all the British actors were dubbed while the German actors did their own lines. Oh, OK. It did all feel like the, or the Diaglog was ADR.

Nothing felt like it was recorded there and there. Yeah, I mean, not probably not all of it though, but I mean, obviously Pierre's was. Yeah, OK. Both Judy G.

Son and Lisa Harrow had appeared in Space 1999. Yeah, I remember her episode. Actually, it's a good episode, that one. But isn't the one where she goes crazy because her fiancee has gone missing?

Yeah. Yeah. So I found this was first shot on L.W.T. on Saturday, first of January, 1977.

So New Year's Day, 1977 at 9.30am. We would have been what? Three. I wouldn't have been born, mate.

Oh, yeah. You're still going to keep this up, are you? All right. All right.

Well, I was three-coloured. I don't know how you were. Yeah. I'm going to go off on a tangent here.

You know how people say that TV in the past was better? Well, I have to say that New Year's Day, 1977 on British TV, was phenomenal, but not in the way that word is usually employed. Go on. Now I'm intrigued.

So there are only three channels. Yeah. So let me start with eight of these. That's where Stermaidans appeared.

So I'd heard at 9.30am. Was followed by a cartoon time. OK. Then the film, Cartoon, which is probably for the 60s, I think.

Yeah. That's the one we don't even know, isn't it? Yes. World of Sport from 12.30pm to 5.35pm.

That is five hours of sport on New Year's Day. Was New Year's Day a Saturday? Yes, it was. Oh, well, this was back in the day.

So World of Sport was the ITV version of Grandstand. So do you remember on the BBC? The Grandstand? And that used to be on for all afternoon as well.

But it's New Year's Day? Eh, sport doesn't wait for people to know. Two hours of that? It's horse racing.

I thought you were going to say two hours of that was wrestling. You know the old... There is wrestling in there. Of course, there is.

In the five hours. Join Haysacks? And that's just the way I'm sat. Yeah, yeah.

Then finally at 5.35pm, Happy Days. I don't mean it's Happy Days because it's finished sport. Yeah, well, it was probably for us. Yeah, but that's another show though that I forget how old that show is.

Because it was always on TV in the eighties on me with kids as well, wasn't it? Yeah. But it was probably long gone by that point, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah.

Followed by Celebrity Squares, then New Faces, and then the film Pattern. And that's it for ITV for New Year's Day. There's some little nuggets in there. Were?

Five hours of sport? Well, no, not that. But patterns are good moving. I would have thought.

Yeah, but you'd have seen it by then. I guess, I guess. Celebrity Squares, that was always good fun. Depends who's on it.

That's true, probably kidding over it, wasn't it? Maybe, might have been. So you'd expect BBC must have been the winner here, right? Yeah.

Go on. 9.30am, swap shop. Nothing wrong with swap shop? 12.15 to 3.30pm, Grandstand.

There you go. So all three three channels and two of them are showing sport for most of the day on New Year's Day. I'm sure that when you get through the third channel is going to save the day, right? Oh, yes it will.

OK. So then the film Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. A new car teasers at 5 past 5pm. Go on.

Tazam, Lord of the De Jungle. I remember that show. Oh, there you go. I remember that show.

That's a filmation show, isn't it? I don't know. The name of the person who made it. Phil, Philmation.

Philmation. Yeah. Oh, Philmation. I don't know.

Oh, very good. That's just flew by. I didn't even notice. He did.

He was so under the radar. I didn't even know. There he is. Yeah.

So then news and more sports. What time is this now? Oh, we're getting into the evening, 5 o'clock now. 5.45pm, Jim will fix it.

What? No, no, no, no. We'll just skip that one. OK.

Doctor Who at 6.20pm, but not special. Just happened to be an episode that was on Saturday, that's Saturday, the year's day. We didn't have Christmas specials back then. We didn't need them.

We didn't need them. Which octa? No, I'm seeing an Arnold octa. I'll buy Jay, he's Thax.

Did you see the Instagram regret in my eyes when I said that? I can't remember which one it is. It's probably Tom Baker, right? Might be, 70.

He did it for like nine or 10 years, didn't he? So he's got a big top baker. Yeah. 8.15pm, Ronnie Corbett, Saturday special.

Nothing wrong with a bit of Ronnie? 9pm, Stersky, notch. Oh, this is prime. Oh, what's she's asking?

Actually, the day, this is just like now. Oh, one show, one show. News, Mossbart, Packison, ended the day. So BBC Two, it's got to be this is all it's left.

So BBC Two is the saviour of New Year's Day, 1977. Go on, give it to me. Channel set at 10 past 10 in the morning. Yeah.

It's not an early riser, is there BBC Two? No, no, no. You're hungover, thinking, I thought it was rubbish on the other channels. BBC Two.

You could always just sit and stare at the test card, you know that girl with the totties and the black one. Oh, I'm just going to say that. You've got a bit more at the remote. You did move much, you know?

You should have nice time. All right, all right. So past 10 a.m. Go on.

Coronation day, 1953 for seven hours. Seven hours? Yep. The whole of the coronation from 1953 from 10 past 10 a.m.

To 5.15 p.m. Oh, I think I'd rather watch the sport, for the audience. At least the wrestling will be fun. I don't know about it on ITV.

Yeah. Wow. That's shocking, isn't it? Yeah, mind you, did you see the current New Year's Day line up from a few days ago?

No, I didn't. Not much, 5.15 p.m. We get 15 minutes of Gwendolyn Mason, a Herposed. Just the woman playing a half.

Yep. Well, BBC2 is always the cultured channel, isn't it? Well, that's why they had the current nation. 5.30 p.m.

Playaway. Mm-hmm. And then I pretty much stopped currying after that, because it doesn't get any better. So that was New Year's Day, 1977.

You know, there's some things I'm missing from there. I mean, I'm shocked that there was no valedunica or something like that. No. He would have been a Christmas Eve.

Yeah, he'd probably quit the day. Wow. Wow. What can you say?

Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of stuff. It was the go-out. Like, nobody was watching TV in 1977 on New Year's Day.

Well, kids, you were out playing with the boxes at your toys, K-Vid. No, this is true, yes. Oh, you were out playing, and your parents were hungover, so they weren't watching anything. And if they weren't hungover, then they were in the process of getting more hungover.

Yeah, they still had the Christmas hat on, and we're looking for the rest of the drum brewery, because that's the only thing that's left. Bloody drum brewery. Yeah. So cutting it, cutting it, cutting it, and her frozen for your netter.

Yeah. Oh, no, no, no. But I mean, it was me and Ettory, you were part of the ship. You weren't part of the ship.

It would have been Arctic Roll. Truly. Oh, wow, okay. Yeah, of course you did.

Yeah, of course you did. Of course you did. It was a Christmas. She tells you it's Arctic Roll.

It's probably just a Swiss roll painted yellow. Who knows? Who knows what it was? I mean, did you even get him that?

I don't think he can. I don't think he can. I don't think he can. Maybe.

He should go. Next time, I mean, how's that? See if you can get an Arctic Roll. They'll probably band because of toxicity or something like that.

Probably, yeah. I mean, if the makers of Arctic Roll, listen to this. Don't do it. We're running.

We're on the cartwheels in the freezer section, for Arctic and Antarctic explorers. And then you made a huge mistake of carbonate bipolar monthly. I'm still holding out for oak for that. Yeah.

I could do well in certain quarters. I think. Yeah. I'll print media's dying call in, so, you know.

Prince media. Oh, sorry. Purple raid. Can you say that with any more of a Northern accent?

They're coming. What was that about? Purple rain. Because Prince was really darlin'.

He did? He did? Yeah. He was with it.

He was always doing that little dance they did. Yeah. Yeah. Because they were biting.

They were chafing. Who would probably talk a little bit, weren't they? Yeah, but he only had sharp ones. Did he?

Yeah. Very specific. What were we doing? I don't know.

Do you have any more information about stair maidens? You pretty much covered everything. The only thing I was going to mention was the fact that lots of directors connected with this. And one of them was Freddy Francis.

Yes. That's good. That's good. That's a problem.

We didn't do any of these two episodes that we're doing. So I'm guessing I've got that to look forward to. A5 decided to carry on with it. Yeah, you do indeed.

If you decide to carry on with it. Yeah. I'm going to put a lot of stair maidens and also one of the main writers on it was also a writer on many, many, like hits from British television, The Avengers. Secret Army.

Nice. And Dixon of Dot Green. Lovely. Among many, many, many others.

Some bangers, though. Some bangers, yeah. Wow. The people say that anymore.

I'm bringing it back. Yeah. I wish I would agree with you Christmas the other day. I'm trying to bring stuff back.

But that's all I've got. So maybe we should crack on because there's a lot of time pack with these two. I mean, they're very small episodes, but there's a lot to talk about. Okay.

A society ruled by women. This perfect condition existed as long ago as a thousand orbits. When our planet Medusa belonged to the Solar System of Proxima Centauri. These were the golden years of our history.

Led by the Grand Council of Women, we had created a world of intellect, of leisure, and of advanced technology, with the menial tasks, and some others, who were patiently performed by our men. Then we gained a great comment, Dionysus. We opened with some other work and explosions with planets and a meteor fly by. Fingshoo's quite good.

What's quite good? The theme tune. Oh, the theme tune. Yeah, it's a great funky theme tune.

And that was hard to say. This model work felt, I mean, it is very space 1990, but it also felt a bit like Lego Land as well. You know, the Lego Land where there was always like those recreated big Ben and London and you could walk around it and it felt a bit like that. Well, there's two kinds of impressive model.

One is where the model is perfectly blended into the surroundings and you can't tell that it is a model and the other is Cindy Crawford. No. You're on fire tonight, Colin. The other is where the model is obvious that it's not real, but it's incredibly detailed and is a very unique design.

I think the show falls into the latter. Oh, yeah, I'm not saying that I didn't like them. I'm just saying they looked like models, but they were, as you said, they were incredibly intricate and detailed and really well put together. And there's some fun ship shapes.

Oh, yeah, we want to get to the ship. The ship designs are something I've never seen before. Yeah. I was already thinking at this point, why have I never seen this just from this opening?

I guess because it was buried. I mean, 9.30am New Year's Day. Who's watching TV? But even over the years since, I've never seen it like listed as being repeated that much.

Because it's weird, isn't it? I mean, it is weird. I guess also because if you repeat it, you have to repeat every episode because it's all one continuous star. Yeah, there's no stand-alone's.

Is there a whole idea? No. I mean, they have their own little starry within eventually. But they're still following on.

Okay. So this episode is called Escape to Paradise. And we get a, it's kind of a lengthy narration, but it does set up what's going on because we haven't really explained the background. It's basically a lot of Greek mythology.

It would have been a bit of a sci-fi spin on it, isn't it? Yeah. So the narration is, a society ruled by women, this perfect condition exists as long ago as a thousand orbits when our planet Medusa belonged to the solar system Proxima Centauri. These were the golden years of our history.

Led by the Grand Council of Women, we had created a world of intellect, leisure and advanced technology with amenial tasks and some of us were patiently performed by our men. I'd live in that world. You do? Then can the Great COVID, Dionysus.

Oh, wow. As they passed its vast mass, dragged us towards the frozen infinity of outer space, slowly at first, giving us a chance to plan and build the cities we know today, deep under the surface. Before Medusa was finally encased in our blanket of ice. For generations, we drifted through space.

Then one day, next edition to the surface, returned to great news. We had arrived in a new solar system, our solar system, containing another live supporting planet called Earth. Earth proved a great disappointment to us. You're not wrong, sister.

Contrary to all common sense, it was controlled by men. Typically, we found it to be crude, primitive, modeling along in an untidy disease, prone existence. We withdrew prematurely. And Earth was declared out of bounds to all civilized space travellers.

There you go. That's the set up. So it's a world ruled by women on the ground. I mean, that is certainly unique for 1975, isn't it?

Yes. I had to have questions about it, which we'll get to, about how this is going to play out as the show went forward. There's little hints of things that slightly bother me with it, of where it might go. So you like to confirm these things when we get to it.

I'm not confirming anything that's not in these first two episodes. All right. I'm not going to blossom again. No help to me.

No, you like to watch it. I think the set is amazing. Yeah, that whole, it's kind of like a shopping model, doesn't it? Yes, two levels.

It looks like it's got two levels. Did you see all the little drums or white vases that were all seen to be stacked on top of each other in the corner of one of the walkways? I was very disappointed that nobody went flying into those at some point. When there's a chase player in the episode, probably, they can't break them.

When the chase happens later in the episode, someone's got to go flying into those. Never happened. I was disappointed. I do like watching models get destroyed.

Oh, that's a bit cruel. Oh, you meant, oh, sorry. I'll go to my house. No, models.

You're a little model. Right. Yeah. That was always the appeal of doing like, Earthix kits to me as a kid, because I would make them and then I would destroy them afterwards.

Seriously? I love doing that. Yeah. So you painstakingly glue together the pieces, paint them.

If you magnified glass and you let them rub double paints and then you just smashed the pasta. Well, they wouldn't smash it. I'd launch it out of the window. Even if it's not a plane.

Well, obviously, I mean, I did not mostly do planes, but I did a couple of things. They would like it crashed. They would get crashed. They'd crash into walls and things.

Oh, okay. That was always the appeal. I like the tactile feel of something exploding. They just struck a little bug around there.

I was, I was, yeah. I destroyed many planes out of my bedroom window. Just throwing them. Just chucking them out.

You'd run down stairs to see what it looked like. Yeah. And if you just do a smash. Like some weird Earthix kits serial killer.

You know, admiring his handiwork. Yeah. Would you put them back together or was that it? If I could.

Usually they, you know what those things were like. They exploded when they hit up. Did you expect at one point one of them to just fly? Not really.

Maybe at first. Maybe at first I was slightly disappointed that it didn't fly. Yeah. But I do like watching models being exploded and moving in shows.

Get a little thrill out of that. Okay. All right. Now go back to the set.

I also, as well as the Space 1999 stuff. I also felt that it was a little bit Logan's run as well. But on a smaller scale obviously. Yeah.

So we cut to Shem who is working and we find out that this narrative has been part of a TV program that he's listening to. He's listening to a history program for junior girls. Yeah. You watched a video similar to these titles calling.

You couldn't even say it like that. I'm very instructive. I guess all the TV programs are aimed at women in this world because why did you keep them in? Other than for them to do the jobs.

Yeah, they don't need to know stuff. No. I don't need to know anything. You know, you're treated well by women and you've got a service.

That's the wrong word to use. It is a service in this world. We also meet Adam who is complaining about men tiling away looking after the children. He's like, who builds the cities?

Who's slaves cooking over a microwave stove? But Shem is more cautious of the two because he's just like, that's the way it is. It's a woman's world. Yeah.

I thought, check out Space Nigel for R.G. doing his, uh, Sock box in. Like, wow, just shut up mate. You've got it.

You've got it. You've got it. Adam has a plan. We get a news break and we hear that there's a legal men's liberation movement going on.

Apparently they have a prediction machine that's called a destiny computer. It extrapolates information from patterns and then can predict the future. Yeah, so it's a bit like a minority report, isn't it? Yes, although at no point in this two episodes it's not to get anything right.

That is also true. It just appears to change its mind. It does. It does.

It might be all rank a little bit. Mm-hmm. Not a sarcastic. They should have made it like, like, Iraq or the liberator is where it's sarcastic about stuff.

What? Did it have a, correct me if I'm wrong because I can't remember. Did it have a male voice or a female voice? Um, it was a computer-y female voice.

It was computer voice, oh yeah. But it sounded like a female in a male because I was just thinking if it was a male voice, why would they program it with a male voice? If it's female then it makes us sense. Right?

Yeah. So they're using this to figure out who's going to be the troublemaker and it seems it's the male domestic that are going to be the rebels. You're apparently going to disobey their mistresses. Yeah.

You want to do that? No. Adam wants to steal the supreme councillor, Fulvius Nies ship. And as he's the councillor's domestic, you can steal the keys.

The keys. That's what actually shebs says. I know. But I assume he means like key codes rather than like her metal keys.

I've hung up in the hallway. Yeah. Yeah. In a bowl.

In a bowl. Froed it with all the other keys that people keep taking out with those parties that she goes to. Yeah. It was all the rage in the 70s apparently.

Yeah. Apparently. Fulvius treats her man like a slave, right? Yeah.

This shows, I've got a very sub-dom sensibility to it at times, don't you think? Yes. I can imagine that the lovers of that were probably watching this, you know, rather excited at what was going on in these ugly moments of this episode. Yeah.

Not me, obviously. No, no. Other people. Yeah.

Octavia turns off, she's the supreme councillor. Mm-hmm. And she tells Fulvius that Adam, her domestic, is subversive. Which he denies and doesn't run her.

Why would you want to rock the boat in this? I don't get it. Yeah. You want freedom?

Well, this guy doesn't want the job armor was available. All right. All right. The cops...

costumes. The security costumes reminded me of, do you remember the skit in Monty Python's meaning of life when Graham Chapman, I think, is being chased by these women and runs off the edge of a cliff? Yeah. It reminded me of slightly more, um, clowed versions of that because they're not as clothed and not moving.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's the thing. If it's a world ruled by women, would the clothes be more practical?

Yeah. While they're all wearing skinpy stuff. You know, they clearly look like they've been designed by men and seventies men at that, you know. Yeah, but then Gavin Thomas points out in an interview I saw that women were wearing that in London at the time anyway, so But here they've got a choice of no I so it's hard to say like would they be wearing that?

It's just as impractical to have your mid-riff showing with your police officer. No, it doesn't. Yeah I that this was one of the first times when I looked at it and I thought this is a bit weird. This doesn't work Be these guards.

I did like the gun effect though. I thought that was quite fun. Yes, because it's not like a laser Is it's like a light? Yes?

Yeah, I like that nice So they're gonna shame and Adam will see the ship and they flee to earth which they think is a paradise because men rule it For a shock I'm on a boat. Oh, you're on a boat. So we see we cut to earth and we see the Institute of radio astronomy and they've picked up the ship heading towards Earth I kind of laughed at this. It's an unsentially funny line because it's the way it's delivered So dr.

Liz Becker she hands the other dr. Rudy a printout as the tracking the great speed of the ship And she says professor Evans is already on his way Really speed 300 million miles an hour Gaps I thought the cup to the 1970s because I wasn't expecting it because I didn't know anything about this and that's you so suppose You know it's all gonna be on in space, you know space It's quite jarring when suddenly cuts this like whatever it was a Ford Fiesta drive I Think I love about 1970 science fiction as well is you know they get it so wrong don't they? I mean it looks damn cool, but it's all wrong, you know like in the ship. They're still using paper, you know For the Octavia go after them she's a baby's in charge of her do not shape the ship.

It's great design the ship I really like this this this round I'm not sure whether it was kind of like it was a An inflatable at one point now that he's blowing up a little bit We've got her but other than that yeah, great I thought back at the Institute they realized it's a ship because it's changing speed and they pick up the second signal But oh, oh Shem and Adam they're not very good pilots because they're not instructing them what to do and they're gonna hit earth with two Greater speed and bounce off the atmosphere others integrate. Yeah, but Adam's he does not go stop is it? He's gonna keep going no and um all Gareth Thomas's character does at this point He's just seem to complain about everything well. Yeah, you just but you would mainly your business watching a nice program Why do you know that why do you go with it?

I just felt pushed into it? You know what it's like when people push you into doing Bigs pop. No, I don't I don't I never been pushed into anything you know Signal from earth which is mathematical data gives them information to correct their approach Mm-hmm and a scientist race to work the ship is going to land, but you know it does crash it does crash yes Um yeah, something else that hit me when I was we got to this point was it feels like Feels like one of those really well observed quote unquote retro episodes of inside number nine You know and they do something that supposedly made in the 70s You don't know where it's going and where they act in they kind of change there's a great inside number nine episode Which is a crampus episode which is supposed to be like something that was made in the 1970s it felt like that But this is real Okay, so you almost thought it was a parody of it does have parody aspects to it a little bit I'm not maybe they were going for that. I don't know.

No, I think they were truly serious Okay, so everyone believes that sham and adam are dead right? Yeah, apparently all you need an alien crash site is a few scientists and one bobby. That's all you need Yeah, yeah, that's not that's not why I mean Nope, nope, this one can't run you back. Yes Octavia phobia decided to head back to the juicer now that he's dead.

Mm-hmm. What do you think of full-view activities relationship to each other? well the It's clearly an agenda going on for the one that's the security leader person. Yeah, she obviously You know all men should be put in the place whereas judy geese's character is more progressive, you know in a way, so um, I like it I like what they did with it.

I think it um, it kind of takes, you know, obviously what's going on in the real world for that point? And flips it around a little bit doesn't it? So I get what they're trying to do. I know it works.

They're a little relationship Yeah, yeah, you didn't think there was something between them? So many ways I could I could reply to this guy. Um, I never got that impression though. Okay, you did then I guess no just asking you No, no, no, but Sherman Adam and not dead they're in an inflatable ball that saved them.

Why don't we have them? Well, we do don't we do we do it for fun, but not in planes and stuff That is true because it probably wouldn't work with it. Oh, come on giant inflatable ball This bubble is one of the most bizarre endings to any episode of anything I've ever seen because it just cuts through it And they're just in it. Well, don't remember are they?

Yeah, they're like yeah, and then the episode's over. Yes, very strange That is end of episode one. So now we're gonna do episode two as the right 25 minutes long. This one's called nemesis Mm-hmm scientists find the bar like to you, right?

Yeah, we get a little recap first. Don't we the voice over? Oh, yeah, forget about that. It kind of feels like she's reading it cold like she's never she picks it up once and just read it there And then you know, no, no press that morning Yeah, probably so dr.

Evans tells the police are looking for two creatures because they don't even know that a human eye to this point And she haven't had them run through the woods hit the music as they run through the woods That's half expected Robin ask with to come popping out from behind a tree with his panda and ankles It's got a feel to it. Yeah I like to say we need to make contact out of replies, but what if they think we're hostile? I don't think that's a problem. I think we're gonna put you to a hostile thing like they just walked out of a new romantic club Especially the one with the streak going down the center he said yeah, and then at the cross site They're all looking around and then Rudy comes out with this like light bulb strip light And it will take this back to the lab for analysis just that why that?

Well, but all the rest of the stuff We tell me there's nothing more interesting. It was a 70s. I mean didn't think much, did it? I guess not it was in England in the 1970s.

We didn't have I mean But it worked like in the bins at that point where so you know Find out it's just a neon like that was the does dump there before the crash Adam and shem encounter some cows and see if grass is good to eat I think I did like this. I think it's like aliens might react if they came Anyway, you came to a planet and you see these cows, you know, you're kind of like they were done with it like for you I need to go talk to them, you know, it's kind of fun that way Yeah, it is It reminded me of the scene from morons from outer space when he's talking to the pedal bit, you know, yeah So they reach a farm and try some apples which turns out to be better than grass I mean, I mean, I've been better with a bag of parry butts or something like that Would you even know to eat that if it's in a bag? You'd have to open it. I suppose they don't have things in bags on their planet I guess well some of the things they don't seem to understand.

They should be able to speak excellent English Yeah, there's a there's a comment about that in a later episode. Oh, right. They always does a comment. Yeah, yeah Girl sees them they run off.

She's an earth girl. She's a massive that girl goes. I'm not yeah I like that moment. That was fun.

Yeah, very brave breaking into a farmer's place in the 1970s They didn't get a shotgun up the arse really that's true. Yeah, I got shot at once walking across a field with my dad Did you yeah, it's far I can run it out. I don't know but we went for a walk. It was around You know the plate all the wood in places in the wig and like gathers and things like that.

Yes Yeah, we'll cut this is really interesting for the listeners, you know, don't know what gathers is or anything like that I'm sure it's interesting I'll use to happen Used to go for these long walks in the country and I decided there was gonna be the shortcut and we walk across this field next minute This father can run it out from somewhere with a shotgun and I was like we better run Well, maybe for you a stealing stuff. You have been stealing. No, I mean there was stuff growing in the field A produce. Yeah, take some card help.

Yeah, but he didn't get us obviously. I'm still here. Yeah They leap over a wall really easily Yeah, I'm guessing that some to do with the fact that the gravity is different for them on the planet So they've got some sort of like superpowers or something. Yeah, yeah, that could be a thing Maybe In truth, it's trampolines.

Oh, really? Yeah, apparently in the second take Gareth Thomas put his pants And he went over the wall We had to stop because of back together. He was a big man. He once yeah, yeah At this point Octavian for the pick up a police broadcast from Earth and they realized they're a sick man of survival crash So they returned to go get them Two men see a helicopter and hide but oh They've been observed and the Institute takes the second ship approaching and Sherman as I'm all located So they don't want to speak at first because lizards in charge.

This is one of the things I don't quite get everyone knows that the men are in charge So why is everyone acting like like they don't talk because they think lizards in charge and they went up to ages She's all like really rude to all the men as that's stuck as a wind but they all know that it's not like that I mean, I was thinking the same thing. I mean they decided not to have an interview with this planet It didn't it because of the reverse gender roles that they just reversed gender roles. So you see as a primitive planet But yeah, they're all acting like this is all new to them, aren't they? Yes, this is Were one of my worries came in about this show because to this point You know these characters have been quite strong, you know, and this is where we get the first instance of I thought they might start to get a bit silly Oh, okay.

Yeah, a little worry with creeping in here. Right. Yeah, but um, we'll see. We'll see.

Yeah, yeah, we'll see Shema and Adam Steel, a police car apparently using a master computer to drive it. It's 1977. There is absolutely no computerization in this car whatsoever. How does this work?

Yeah, he's a kid thing again, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, computers that just seem to be able to be magically connected to things, yeah Absolutely. Yeah, police are going to detain Octavia for the but they freeze to police officers with a weapon They do but they do agree to go to the police station. So the search can begin.

I'll tell you still hasn't understood that she's not in charge Yeah, because the police guy on the on the desk in the station. He just completely dismisses the stories, doesn't he? Yeah, so it's revealed that they have a tracker on them that can pick up every man's individual scent and man finder. That's what you call your cock, right?

Wow, uh, well, I didn't think you'd go so strong into that one Colin. Um, And don't say that's what he said. Uh Yes, yes, it is Colin. Yes That is what he said.

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