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EPISODE · Apr 17, 2026 · 51 MIN

15. Forests as the Beating Heart: The Biotic Pump Theory with Dr. Anastassia Makarieva

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In this episode of The MEER Podcast, we speak with theoretical physicist Dr. Anastassia Makarieva, known for her work on the biotic pump theory — a framework that reexamines how forests influence Earth’s climate system.Rather than viewing forests solely as carbon sinks, Dr. Makarieva explains how they may actively drive atmospheric circulation and rainfall patterns across continents. Through the process of transpiration and condensation, forests can influence pressure systems, drawing moisture inland and sustaining hydrological cycles far beyond their boundaries.The conversation explores the origins of the biotic pump theory, its scientific implications, and why it challenges conventional climate models. The discussion also touches on the risks of deforestation, including the potential disruption of rainfall systems and large-scale drying of continental interiors.You can learn more on her Substack here: https://bioticregulation.substack.com/

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