#15 - Minder praten, meer doen! (met Ellen Mok)

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Europa praat veel over digitale soevereiniteit. Maar de uitdaging begint pas echt als je het concreet moet maken: welke systemen wil je beschermen, welke afhankelijkheden accepteer je — en hoe organiseer je de overstap?In deze aflevering van Made in Europe spreekt Reinjan Prakke met Ellen Mok (oprichter van de Digitale Doetank) over digitale autonomie in de praktijk: van afhankelijkheidsanalyse tot het herschrijven van aanbestedingen, en van “kroonjuwelen” in kaart brengen tot samenwerken tussen overheden om schaal te maken. Ellen legt uit waarom dit geen anti-Amerika-discussie hoeft te zijn, maar vooral een vraag naar: waar willen we heen — en welke randvoorwaarden horen daarbij? ‘Made in Europe’ is een wekelijkse podcast van Airborne Network, in samenwerking met Emerce. De podcast wil bijdragen aan het maatschappelijke debat over hoe Europa digitaal soeverein kan worden, met gesprekken met ondernemers, beleidsmakers, investeerders en wetenschappers.

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Europa praat veel over digitale soevereiniteit. Maar de uitdaging begint pas echt als je het concreet moet maken: welke systemen wil je beschermen, welke afhankelijkheden accepteer je — en hoe organiseer je de overstap?In deze aflevering van Made in...

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