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All right, Matt. So today's episode is something I'm extremely excited about. There is this thing that happens often in an organization. What's it like when a new person comes in to an organization?

They could be a threat. You don't know what you're getting. You have a whole thing. It's kind of working.

Everybody's established. Even if it's not working, it's their lives and they have a way things go. There's a social pecking order. There's a lot there.

A new person is a wild card. You can just walk in and have a place in this social dynamic. You've got to cut it out a little bit. But conversely, if you're the person that's walking into a new situation, what's going on in your head?

Everything I just said but the other way. Okay, I know everybody here has established. They know each other. They have a thing.

They got inside jokes. This is working for them to some level. I need to understand very clearly what role I play and I'm nervous. And I feel like the outside person, I don't know what I'm doing.

And you're not getting the full version of my personality in the early going here. I'm in learning mode. Okay, there is a thing that I'm convinced has existed since the dawn of time. Like before written language, I think this is probably going to think and it's called the Fool's errand.

Have you heard of this? Oh, yes, very much so. Okay, so Fool's errand for the third chair. This is a situation where like a mechanic might go ask a younger mechanic, hey, go get some blinker fluid or which is a thing that doesn't exist.

Right. Or I've heard where artists have said, hey, we need a glass hammer for this thing that we're about to do. Electric hammer is the first Fool's errand I ever heard of. My buddy Jeremy got sent by our physics teacher in 10th grade to go get the electric hammer from down in the shop.

That's pretty good. There was not an electric hammer. There was a there was a guy that was sent in my school to go get the plaid paint. He had to go get the plaid paint, not the normal paint, we need the paint that makes the plaid.

You've seen like the Scottish people? Yeah, the kind that looks like what they wear. Yeah, when you paint the wall or just look plaid. Yeah, rolls right.

So, these are excellent, excellent things because it serves multiple purposes. Like number one, it's funny. And if you are so dialed and focused on like, I've got to be accepted in this crowd, you might not understand that this is not a thing. It's also an interesting test case in human psychology and uncertainty and knowledge insecurity.

Plaid paint, I've done a sound right, but I'm just discovering that epistemologically, apparently I take a lot of my cues about what's true from how serious everybody's face looks when an absurd thing gets said. Okay, I guess there's such a thing as plaid paint. I'll go get that. Enough people look like they mean it and that can make you disregard your better impulses and be like, I guess I'm down.

I need to doubt myself. I'm wrong. There must be plaid paint and all of a sudden you're off asking somebody for plaid paint and you're so uncertain. You don't know the question or you don't you're scared to question it.

It gets you off your game. Yeah, I think another important distinction so everybody knows what we're talking about when it comes with fools errand. This isn't just a prank. A fool's errand specifically means someone sends you to do a task.

Go procure a thing or make a thing happen. So it's not a fool's errand for example, if you walk around a corner and somebody jumps out and yells, that's just a jump scare prank, right? It's not a fool's errand if somebody lies to you and tricks you into repeating something again and again that just wasn't true and they duped you and everybody else is in on it. That's a different anatomy.

This is a very specific subset of a prank. I would almost say it's a positive hazing ritual. Like hazing is like, oh, we've got a new person that we're going to make them go through this trial. Yeah, but sometimes hazing can be very, very bad.

Right, but I would say if something is what I consider to be a fool's errand, the conditions are nobody gets hurt and it really isn't deeply shameful. Yeah, it's the right kind of hazing in my opinion. Exactly. I'm so very excited for what we're doing today.

We fired off a message to the patrons of Notum Questions, the winged hasars as we call them. And what we've asked for are examples of when people have done fools errands and people have seen it or participated or something like that. And we're just going to straight up call people today. I'm in charge of a phone.

I made up a No Dumb Questions Google Voice number. This is going to work. I'm just going to start calling people. Here we go.

Sounds good. Hi, David. What's up, David? How's it going?

Man, it's Destin. Hey, Destin, I'm great. I decided to talk to you. Appreciate you calling.

Awesome, man. I got another guy here. You may have heard of him. My name is Matt Whitman.

You ever hear him? Oh, yeah. Okay. That's a good talking match.

Really enjoying the new Bible here. If you're doing great. Yeah, thank you, man. I really appreciate that.

Nice to have the phone meet you, David. Yeah. David, seriously. Yeah.

Also, thanks for supporting on Patreon, by the way. Dude, you've been a patron for four years. I don't know if you realize that. That's awesome.

I didn't realize it was that long, but uh, yeah. Yeah, I heard the mail and kind of the swallow. I'm like, oh, no, I forgot to cancel that. Yeah.

Yeah. So sorry, man. No, thank you very much. Really appreciate you pitching it, man.

It means a lot more than you realize. Hey, we're doing this thing on the Fool's errand. And I know, you know what that means. And when we put out this call here on Patreon, you had a really good idea.

And it looks like you were in the military, which makes me realize this is going to be an awesome story. So uh, yeah. Yeah. So I've been a pilot with the Air Force since 2008.

I got it back to duty a couple years ago and I'm a reserve now. So the stories I have are back from the 2017. And I'm a team of 30 reserves now down in Atlanta. So what happened?

Two things we need to do. One is we call it a radar calibration, right? So flying into Afghanistan or something, you've got armor all over the aircraft. And there's just one piece that's about two foot squared, you know, wave 40 pounds or so.

So we land somewhere and we didn't do old and offload the cargo. There's not a whole lot for a pilot to do. And so we send it, a junior pilot out to say, hey, we need to calibrate the radar. So I'm standing in front of the aircraft.

It's a big aircraft, right? 170 feet wide or something. And we're kind of waving out the window, moving them left and right. I give them a pretty patient.

And the whole time, you know, they're in the middle of probably combat zone, it's like a longer mechanic thing and something. And there's fuel trucks driving around and you know, they do it for about five minutes until they realize they would just, uh, we were just going to tell them until they reviewed. Dude, that is fantastic. Uh, you know, a couple, a couple minutes.

Uh, and some of them didn't really get there. So we, we'd wave them in, but you know, it's a good time. And hey, they didn't do me too. And I got a, a, a, a, you know, it's all part of the body, right?

Yes. I do. If you say I went through it, so you have to, and it's miserable nightmare suffering. That's one thing, but not like this.

Exactly. This is gold. Now you are part of the tribe. Let's run together.

And now they're on the inside of the. Oh, yeah. That's great. I see the move.

Yeah. Did you have another one? I thought her mode. You had another one.

Yeah. So the other one was doing air samples, right? So we always say, what happened? We hit a bird and I actually thought the bird thing was a joke.

Because when you hit a bird, you have to actually take the bird and send it to the, uh, national, uh, summer to cover. Yeah. So that's our time to think about it. Am I being hazed right now?

No. No. You actually have to do that. Seriously what I thought, right?

Okay. Yeah. I say, yeah. Uh, be part of the direction.

Say, 10 parts of the. So we would tell them we'd have to do air samples. You know, we're crossing the ocean. You know, you got these eight, nine hours, four, you're sitting around doing nothing.

Sometimes you're telling me empty, uh, which is definitely not broadway to the view, uh, at $20,000 an hour. But no, uh, so you've got this huge, huge plane. You play football back there, right? So we have them run down the length of the plane with a bag over their head and they're tied up real quick.

So they're, I'm sorry, man, that wasn't fast enough. I don't, you got to get it all in there. And then you have to do label it. What are they supposed to write on that?

Well, well, you know, you need lat long, you need a lot of people on duty out to, right? I'm a day. Uh, I'm sure you come up with many other things, right? Dude, but then the best I was young, you know, we have a junior pilot and he goes to tournament.

We've got a tournament where we get to Germany. And there's this young airman there who's just in charge of receiving the cargo, making sure we've got the right cargo. And she totally plays along. So she looked at each tag, got the lat long on it.

She's saying, oh, this is really good. This is going to be really helpful. We're going to send it off. And I don't know.

Some of these you just never really close the loop on. I don't know that we ever close the loop on that one, right? So yes, this is a joke. You kind of figure it out as you go on.

But there's the seriousness with which you turn that stuff in and she took it pretty amazing. That's fantastic. So when you move on to some other fools, Aaron's here, David. But when these people do it and they perform the task, the errand, well, what does that tell you about the person?

They're willing to be kind of like you said earlier, be part of the team that they can lose some faith to join the team, right? And that's kind of a consistent thing. When people won't do it, then it just goes badly for them for the next couple of years if they don't want to be there and kind of, it's not self-sacrifice, but it's self-dentremate against the join and be part of that team. That's awesome, dude.

That was funny. I'm afraid to talk downhill from here, man. I'm very, very concerned about this. David, we really appreciate you, man.

Great job, man. Okay. See you, David. Okay.

Bye. I don't know if you saw me over here, but I was acting it out. So he's describing it. I'm imagining what it would be like if I were up there and I'm like shaking my head.

No, no, no. You need a little there to the left. And then I'm giving him the finger of say right there, what I reached down and to adjust some knobs or something. I'd be like, I need you to pick it up higher.

Can you go a little bit higher? Can you twirl? Show me the backside of it. There we go.

There we go. There we go. It's not a knife. I'm sorry.

Do we have a stool? I'm going to go to the gifford. I've been a patron for four years. Hey, Scott, it's Matt.

How you doing, man? I'm doing well. How are you? Super.

Thank you. What's up, Scott? Destin here. Glad that you're talking to you.

Hey, Destin. It's awesome to be on. It's good to have you, man. We're giggly and we're in that giddy place because this is funny.

And I don't remember what your story is, but I'm all yours. I would like to giggle more, please. Yeah. So when I was probably 15, I got a job at KFC.

A good buddy got me a job. They were hurting for employees. So I didn't even have to fill up the application completely before I was working. Nice.

So the guy that ran the franchise, he was a really fun guy down to Earth. Like the classic work hard play hard type. I worked as a cook in the back. So basically we just like worked with these huge cookers, heated vats that we filled with molten Crisco and chicken.

I think I really want some crispy right now. That sounds pretty good. Yeah. I'm thinking that.

It's pretty good. And I don't know their recipes. I don't ask you just to come and dig back. Yeah.

I'll just pay to my next question. Yeah. And on top of that, we would like, I don't know, keep the freeze organized and do dishes. But then we'd have to clean up afterwards, obviously.

And the floors would get real greasy and sometimes real slimy. So we would hose them down with cleaner. And then we'd use these giant squeegees to squeegee the water down into the drains. Yum.

And so one night, a couple weeks into the job, it was pretty slow and so my boss, he had to be a $20 bill and said to run over to the gas station and grab a squeegee sharpener. Oh, the money is smart. Yeah. You're not expecting this in a pulley to pay for squeegee sharpener.

You're just funny, milksky. Okay. How did it go? Yeah.

So I remember in the back of my head, Don, this doesn't seem like a thing. But okay, I'll run over there. It was like, so I had a job before this and I had been fired because somebody else didn't cover for me. Like they said, they would anyway.

So I was like really nervous about losing a job again. And so I didn't want to mess anything up. I went over there, searched for all the aisles, finally went up to the cash register to the person at the register and I also dumb asked if they had any squeegee sharpener. Describe the person behind the register, please Scott.

It was an older man. And it was funny. I remember from this entire story, this is the part I remember the most. This older man here, it was the look on his face went from the customer service, like puzzlement face, thinking about that, to this rice mile.

Like he knew it was a joke. And I saw that when I saw that, I was like, oh, yeah, like 100%. I just got, I just got ahead. What did you do?

Did you like at this point, is it just a walk of shame back to the KFC or how did it play out? Yeah, a little bit. So I got back and I had the $20 bill still. So I went back to his office and told him that they were out of stock.

He kept the bit going for a little longer. Like, did you check this out? Did you ask the manager or this? But I kind of decided to just keep playing stupid because I don't know what I was thinking.

I was thinking maybe if I didn't admit to it, it didn't happen or I don't know. I was trying to impress the boss. Did you know how to back out of it? No, I didn't.

Yeah, it was pretty young. Didn't know how to handle that situation. Especially like a boss, you know. Yeah.

Do you think that the boss was he making fun of you or do you think it was like, I don't know, did you feel in on the joke or out of the joke? How did it feel? A little bit out of the joke. He went, he took it kind of far.

Like, I felt pretty dumb. But it took about probably 10 minutes before my buddy that got me the job and my boss came out and we were laughing and the jig was up and we all laughed at that point. So it ended up being pretty good. Because then from then on, I was like part of the team.

I participated in further hijinks type things. So it was almost like initiation into the group. That sounds like it worked perfectly. Scott, I'm not a theoretical physicist per se.

But it's something I think about a lot. And if time travel is ever invented, I just like to give people tips in case that happen. If that ever works out, I would recommend making a squeegee sharpener. Maybe like it's got some kind of like a knife sharpener, some kind of blade thing, but it's a little bit more dull to handle the rubber.

You don't want to damage it. And go back and deliver that to your 15 year old self just before you go to work that day and be like, hey, you're going to need this. You'll know what to do when the time comes. And then you just make sure you have like $3.17 in your pocket.

So you can come back over and be like, got it. Here's a change. It just blows. And blow everyone's mind.

That's pretty good. I do also remember thinking, thinking like, how can I make this work? So I get to keep the money, but I couldn't think of anything at the time. Yeah, for me, just make him pay for it.

I think it's the fact that he handed you a $20 bill. That is the moment that it goes from, this could be a joke to, well, nobody would give me a $20 bill if this wasn't real. He was willing that. I mean, that's sunk cost.

He just wanted to lose that. That's fine loss leader on that 20 bucks. I don't see this again. It was worth it.

That's the clever. Like there's a little bit of truth there. I think that's what's so clever. Thank you so much for sharing the story with us, man.

I don't know if you realize this, but you've been a patreon supporter for four years, man, even as a part of the note of questions. We really appreciate that, man. No kid. Thanks a ton.

Yeah. Been listening since the first episode. I'm going to talk about your siege warfare episode with Sabaton, the Wing to Stars thing. Inspired a podcast I started about history.

It's called history and music. What are we? Right. I went into historical songs like that.

What do you say the name of it is again? History and music. History and music. Cool, man.

That's cool. I like ballads. I grew up listening to Johnny Horton. It's great.

We've got to get on and try to contact the next person on the list. But again, thank you so much. Appreciate it Scott. Yeah, thanks for having me on.

Take care, man. How's it going Josiah? Hey, that's good. How's it going?

Doing well. I don't really do many of those calls. That's pretty awesome. Yeah.

It feels pretty special. Oh, it's fun. It's good to have you here. Seriously.

Thank you. Dude, I don't know if you realize it. Thank you. You've been kicking in on Patreon for three years.

That's awesome. Thank you. You got it. Well worth it.

Awesome. I got my Wing to Stars pin right here. I love that. I love that design of that thing.

Yeah. Should we tell him? What should we tell him? Dude, he's just conscience-wise.

Matt, does this every once in a while? He's leading me to a joke. I don't understand. I just know, Joe.

I don't know if we've ever been in the world before. Yeah. It's so... I just want to let you off the hook.

For free? Yeah. I don't know if we properly represented that when we were talking about it. We might have given the impression you have to pay, but it's free.

It's hard to be in the world. It's hard to be in the world. It's hard to be in the world for $1. Awesome, man.

We're doing the Fool's errand thing. I wonder if you got a story for us. Yeah. I got a story.

Go for it. I got my first job around 2012. It was my first real job that had a paycheck every two weeks in a schedule every week. This was not long after 2008.

So jobs were hard to get. Hard to keep. My parents trained me to be a good, hard-working kid. So I was going to work working hard trying to make a good impression because it was harder to keep jobs back then.

And also I was really, really concerned about just getting fired because... Because your parents raised you well. Because my parents raised me well. So eventually about a month into working there.

My general manager looks at me and he goes, go in the back and find a dough repair kit. He's like, okay, what do they look like? And he tells me, like, it's a little box that says dough repair kit. I need two of them.

So I went into the back and I started tearing up the store looking for a little box that said dough repair kit. What was the store? Where were you working? It was a pizza place.

It was a Papa John's. Gotcha. Repair and dough is important for pizzas. Right?

You can't have holes in it. So I go in the back, I'm looking for a little kit of tools or something. I'm going in the back where we have the sink for dough additions and everything. Tearing it apart, looking high and low.

And it was probably about two minutes but felt like a lifetime. The other manager showed up and he was like, hey, just I, what are you doing back here? I was like, oh, well I was sent to find a dough repair kit. And he just laughs at me and says, well, I got to tell you, it's just something we do every time someone looks for it.

That's pretty good. How did that feel? It felt actually kind of cool. Like an initiation.

I successfully passed. Did you worry less about getting fired after that? You feel more like you were in? I was less worried after that.

That did help. That's interesting. I haven't thought about that component of this. It makes you, yeah, you're not the first person to say you were worried about getting fired.

And I have, I did not realize that this could actually be an affirmation of sorts. You can sit somebody down and be like, hey, Josiah, I'm not going to fire you, man. Or you could send them to get the dough repair kit. And in the same way, Wesley saying, as you wish, meant I love you.

So the dough repair kit means I'm not going to fire you. Actually, believe me. Awesome. So this happened, I saw this happen to a few employees.

Eventually I left that job, went and got another job, I hated that job, but decided to go back to school, ended up coming back to the same franchise at a different store. And my sister, who was also going back to college, got the same time as me. So about a month after we started working there, one day I turned to Sarah and I said, Sarah, go find me a dough repair kit. Yes, you did.

And she looked at me. She looked at me and she said, Josiah, there's a dough repair kit. Oh, she already knew. I think maybe I told her the story, but I think she just could see into my soul and knew that that wasn't a thing.

Oh, man. Did she get fired right after that? Oh, no, she kept her job. Okay.

All right. Just trying to establish a pattern of correlation here. I think I get it now. Josiah, seriously, thanks for the Patreon support.

Thanks for having a laugh with us. Thanks for sharing the story, man. All right. Thank you so much.

All the best, dude. Take care. Have a good one, buddy. Hey, Kyle.

It's Matt. How are you doing, man? Not too bad. Excellent.

What's up, Kyle? Destin here. How are you? I'm in the organization where someone was sent on a fool's errand.

I do. It was me. Oh, it was the best client. Sorry for that.

What happened? So I am an EMT, and I work on an ambulance, and while I was in training, the way our training happens is we have two weeks of classroom experience, and then two weeks of field experience, but just being at facility at hospital, hospital, the home, that sort of thing. And then you get two weeks of field experience where you could get a 911 call. Life and sirens.

Seeing the big fun and boring stuff, right? Whoa. Yeah, it's a bit quick, but it's an important part of the job. So at this point in time, I had done the classroom stuff.

I had done the inter-facility stuff, and it was like my first or second day on the 911 side of things. And we get a call that is almost the highest level of what we respond to. Full life and sirens, full sand organ, the fire department, working in the police department. I am understandably amped up just a little bit.

So we pull up in front of this apartment building, and of course there's no elevator. There's nothing, so we're just opening it up. A bunch of stairs, we get to the furthest apartment in the building, get into the room. Again, my heart rate has been going this entire time.

We get in there, and looking back on the call, it's what we call a list assist, or a call down go boom. Oh, okay. Older or your wheelchair, yeah, you fall down, you just need help getting up. But for whatever reason, the computer that took the 911 call decided that this was a full sand emergency.

Okay. Again, this is the first time I've ever done this. So I am still in panic mode, and I rush in this shit. I start getting our cardiac monitor hooked up to this patient.

I get all the little data and stickers hooked up. I've got the blood pressure thing going on. You've this 80 year old dude that fell down and kind of fell against the wall. So he probably told the operator that he hit his head, but he didn't really hit his head.

He just kind of lumped against the wall as he hit a little flick spot in his apartment. And so my paramedic, thankfully with her nearly 20 years of experience, grabbed my shoulder and kind of pulled me back and said, Hey, Kyle, I need you to go back to the ambulance and grab me the fallopian tube for the patient. So I had back to... Wait, wait, wait, wait.

So this is a guy, and you could tell the grab the fallopian tube. No, no, no. What are you thinking in this moment? You have to save this individual's life, Kyle, and you can't do it without fallopian tubes.

In my mind, I am now going through every single bin, every single cabinet in the ambulance. I mean, we have time to tubes in the ambulance. We've got ventilation tubes for the ventilator. We've got oxygen tubes.

We've got saline drugs. I'm going through everything. Again, I have this entire ability to pull into all but down to get to the truck. And I start just ripping open cabinets.

I'm just going through things, looking at labels, going to float into floating. And maybe I don't know. In reality, two minutes that happened. In my mind, three hours of desperate searching had happened.

My perematic opens the back of the door and call me after. Have you found them yet? And at that point, she reminds me of my anatomy left in school. So you left out that detail.

She sent you to go look for the fallopian tubes. Oh, oh. Oh, oh. Oh, Lee, that's amazing.

Oh, no. Okay, how did that affect your standing on the crew? So everybody knew I was now because of course they didn't. Um, sure.

But it definitely gave them a bunch of ammunition before months. To make fun of him. However, I am now an FTL, but still turning out that they're. And I now use this on my trainees who get into this sort of a hyper-excited state.

And I no longer doing anything of use. You were obviously just total adrenaline, right? And she could tell that you were probably making the situation more difficult. And you could probably see that looking back.

Is that what she was trying to do? Just trying to get you away from the situation and help you realize? Exactly what she was trying to do. That is exactly it.

Do you think it was the right play? Do you think it was the right thing for her to do in that moment? In that situation, yes. Um, one of the worst things to do while responding to a 911 is make things more complicated and hurt people further than they are potentially already hurt.

But, yeah. Did she explain that to you or did you just kind of get it? Oh, absolutely. After every call, we didn't have a debrief.

So it was, you know, well went well, went poorly. That's sort of the thing. And that was kind of the first debrief where I actually had my wrist slapped a little bit with a, you could do better here. That's the first double-purposing of one of these that we've heard in terms of a fool's errand that not only demonstrates acceptance says, hey, we all make mistakes, not anybody's perfect in this line of work.

But it's also an acknowledgement that there's a lot of pressure and at a certain point taking you out of the game for a minute might actually be helpful for you, the patient, everybody involved. It's pretty socially clever move on her part. And it sounds like you borrowed that strategy from her on your part as well. Absolutely.

Yeah. I'd like to compliment you on your humility for learning that lesson and getting it. That's awesome. It sounds like it was a win all the way around.

Good job. Thank you for that. Yeah. I remember one time when I was in the most stressful medical situation of my whole life, it was February of 2017, we were going through some stuff with my daughter.

And at that exact same moment, that's when I decided to start a podcast. And I'm looking here and I'm seeing that you have been a patron since exactly the beginning of this podcast. That's probably about true. Yeah.

That's unreal, man. That's a long road with us. Thank you so much, man. We really appreciate that.

Well, thanks for entertaining me. I'm long-shipped. Thanks for entertaining us with that story, Kyle. I don't want to put a thing in an ambulance and call it the fallopian tube, just like you should get like an old vacuum hose or something.

Just got to put it in there. It needs to be really floppy. That makes it funnier. Kyle, thank you so much.

I'm not cutting out. Yeah, there you go. Sure. We appreciate you.

Take care. Have a good one, buddy. Hey, is this Ryan? Yeah.

What's up, Ryan? It's Destin. How are you? Hey, I'm good.

Good. Hey, it's Matt. I'm also here as I often am here on the program. I thank you as much.

Nice talking to you, Ryan. It's awesome. Alright. We will do a music called Dr.

accomplishmusic. We've been here since we've stopped him, and he's been here, and he's been here for years, so he's brought to me to find many new things. And we appreciate the response on Patreon when we set the call out to patrons. Do you have a story here?

Yeah. I do. The one that comes to mind the most because it was the funniest for me was my first job at the grocery store. I was about 15 or 15.

Then the manager, who liked to mess around with new people and before girl on her first day, she was about 16 or 15 as well. Yes, yes, one of those and she was confused at first and so she asked, how do you do that? And so he said, we'll usually fill up the bucket in the back of the store and you just carry it and you pour it down The mop bucket so she goes to the back of the store and goes up a mop bucket and awkwardly rolls it through the front of the store before realizing She can't lift it so she rolled it back and empty half of eight rolls to the front and they already dumped it into the water fountain Then what did she realize it didn't fill up obviously? Well, she did it about three or four times before the manager took mercy on her and told her that it wasn't a real thing and that he was just having her do it because it was her birthday.

And she was quite embarrassed and she actually cried, which I made a cruel but I was fine. Ryan, I didn't have your message in front of me when we started talking here. So obviously we got a lot of responses. I don't remember all of them.

And so you start to tell it and I'm like, I think I remember something about a drinking fountain one. And so I pulled up your message while you're telling the story. I scroll up. And this is why we called.

It's because of the last two words of your story are just she cried. Period. That's not what I was going to ask. For some reason that triggered something like I must talk to this man.

Because he gets it. You're an awkward, early high school or at that point, anything can be super embarrassing. And that was just embarrassing to the point of her crying. So what was the added benefit?

Like typically we're talking to people. It's some show of like, oh, now you're on the inside of the joke and you're one of us now. It sounds like that didn't quite happen in this case. It may have gone south a little bit.

What was the long term ramifications of this event? I mean, it was a while ago. So that was really one of the few things I remember about that job. But it was just like, you got through your first day and then when it's somebody else's first day, you get to kind of see what they go through.

So I think, yes, that is kind of the definition of hating. But you know, you all kind of go through a little bit of something and you get to tell that story about your first day when that happened to that person. Oh, wow. Yeah.

What is the right play in that situation in your opinion? I mean, you don't know that it's not a thing. She did the right thing, which is what she was told. But if you kind of have enough common sense or enough where with all to kind of understand that, OK, this is a thing, then you just don't do anything for 20 minutes disappear and come back and say, OK, I'm done.

It's full. Yes. Yes. And they can't prove you're wrong because water's come out.

Yes. Yeah. Try it. It seems to be getting really good flow now.

That's awesome. So yeah, that would be the backfire. What do you do now, Ryan? I am a service manager for an infection prevention company.

An infection prevention company? Yeah, an infection prevention technology. It's medical devices for 30 centers hospital and such and by management, the service technology. Do you guys sell for a lot of the time?

Do you guys sell fallopian tubes? We are actually having a New Year's Day. Literally the guy before us, his fool's errand was to go get some fallopian tubes out of the truck. So good.

So good. Oh, that's good. Ryan, thank you so much, dude. I can see here that you've been a patron for two years and we're grateful, man.

It means it's almost three going on three. Look at that. Oh, yeah. I'm not cheating you out of your brother.

Three next month. Thank you. I mean, thank you guys. I really look up to you guys' relationship and just an example that you can build about course with your life.

Thank you very much, Ryan. We really appreciate it, brother. This was fun, dude. Thank you.

Thanks, man. Have a good one. I'm doing a lot of crying today. This is really fun.

This is a really good topic. It's really fun. Good idea. Very good idea.

This one was all you. Okay. Who am I calling next? We're calling art Mulder.

I reached out to art, but I did not hear back from him. I'm just going to give you this synopsis because it's funny. Okay. He was working at some kind of Gardener Nursery where he's working on the vegetable department and somebody sent him next door to go and get specifically the strawberry ladder.

Oh, I forget the strawberries. Yeah, because of how high they grow. I just love that phrase. Strawberry ladder.

You get the strawberry ladder. Yeah, that to me married an entire phone call. It wasn't as fun when I did it, but art from Words and Wood. Good story.

I enjoy your internet game. By the way, man, I see you around all over the place. I like the way you handle your business. All right.

Who's up next? Jason. Right. Oh, Jason.

Let me know that he is unable to swing it. He works in a shop and it just sounds like it just isn't going to happen realistically. Like a mechanic shop? Yeah.

Oh, yeah. He's doing fabrication and stuff. That's totally funny. Jason wrote a couple decades back when I was at Wyoming Tech.

Ah, I'm in Wyoming. That's awesome. One of the instructors told me about their favorite fools, Aaron. They would send them more global students on.

They would send them to another class to ask for a metric adjustable wrench. Yes. Yep. Then they would call the instructor of that next class and give them a heads up.

They would continue the process until the student either figured it out or one of the instructors took pity on the student and let them know what was going on. I've heard a lot of them in that genre. I've never heard of a metric adjustable wrench. Oh, yeah.

We call it a crescent wrench. There's a metric and there's another. You know what? Let's call my buddy Trent.

Let's get Trent. Let's call Trent. Okay. Hello.

What's up, Trent? What's up? How are you doing, pal? I'm well.

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