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Apr 26, 2016 1 hr 11 min

151 When Doves Clap

from No Applause Just The Clap Hosted by The BACN

SPOILERS! RIP intro, Orphan Black, Better Call Saul finale, DCTV, thoughtful rain, Inhumans, purple lickers and gimp warriors, Kimmy Schmidt, Nightvale novel, Justice League feels, Bailey Bae, usual ending nonsense

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Hello and welcome to No Plaz, Just a Clap. Do you know that old school? The only show that knows the sound of Windub's Cry. We lost Prince this week.

It's just a real kick in the guy that the masterminds are going. Because you're a member of a Bowie-dye, I kind of wanted to be like Prince where he has these vaults of music and you know Prince has fucking massive hands. He died in the studio. Yeah, he has massive amounts of music that he never released.

He was so young. It's like 5657 I think. And speaking of Jung Des, this one had a little too close to home was Michelle Nakamura, Patton Oswalt's wife. Is that at 46?

46, left behind Patton Oswalt and I think she's like a 6 or 7. She's 7, her name's Alice. Alice, Ruby, I believe, Oswald. That one had a little too close to home because yeah, she's under the radar but not for people that have followed Patton for Jesus 15, 20 years.

The bit that I most remember is when he's talking about predictive text. He's talking about her texting him, I love you. And he accidentally texts back, I hate. I hate not just anything.

I hate you just I hate and that's the same bit where he won. Basically starts talking like an insane robot and two announces that they're expecting. That's true. Mine would be when he talks about like starting to date her and he talks about how he like comes on with like Chinese food to the like true crime show.

And the chess cavity was filled with semen and the blood lead. That was her job. The school bus blood lead back to the church. But that just kind of reminds me that John Belie bit where he's talking about iced tea describing things on law and order.

I don't know that. He's talking about all the horrible things you can see on law and order special victims like in the middle of the day with no questions asked. Like the victim had fecal matter and semen and they're here to know but all the weird stuff that they added out. Okay.

So, Rick Prince. But really our hearts go out to Patton. Not the worst friends. So Patton Oswald and his daughter with their loss like that.

That one really did feel I felt the way on my chest on that one. Prince I just kind of went huh and shrugged. No, I was a little sad. Yeah Prince wasn't really that instrumental in my life.

I had a bad hand soundtrack on cassette tape. That's about as far as it goes. Prince was always so solidly himself. And unfortunately like I said his love life was not great.

He was married and they had a child that only lived about a week because of genetic heat. And then she miscarried pretty shortly after that. Did she really? Yeah.

I was expecting her. He was able to force like a couple years after. It was after she miscarried. Was it?

After they lost their son and like I said she they remained pretty close but just losing a child is very both of them. As I would imagine what I don't mean it's on that what sound playable about that. I mean it's actually true. You see that a lot in miscarriages and it's a loss of a child.

Yeah. Yeah. A loss of a child or a death syndrome or the genetic. Yeah.

The thing is he was a very prolific mentor of young talent. Like so many people he mentored so many young musicians he worked with constantly. Do I need to stop and do something? Nope.

Nope. No. Just I forgot I had that running in the background. Whoops.

I was going to say it's just like you know what now. You say let's go crazy all for something. Oh, but I won't. Rarely my biggest impression of Prince was actually how Boy George described him.

As a midget dumped in a bucket of pubic hair and glitter. What do you think about it? It does. Yeah.

Like I said, rip Prince but Michelle Nakamura kind of hit us a little harder. Do you like the interesting fact about Prince's son? Do you know what they named him? King.

Boy. Be a wife. Yeah. So he's like Boy Rogers.

Oh yeah middle name. I'll have a couple of cup and see what it was. Like the couple. You mean Roy?

Dick Beck? Yeah. So don't have the sad shit. If we're going to talk sad shit, let's talk about sad pop culture crap.

Boy Gregor Nelson. Was it last time Nelson? Yeah. It was Prince.

Okay. Okay. I know they all have like family names. Like Prince was like a family name or was the stage name of his dad.

He was like a jazz musician or something. But you don't want it. But Orphan Black came back. I'm an episode behind.

Very excited. I love Clunk Club, hashtag Clunk Club Club. I'm a huge fan of Orphan Black. This one went literally the name of the episode was back to the beginning and I love it.

It went back to the backstory of the first clone you see Beth Childs the con. The one that jumped in front of the train that I've been playing with. Mm hmm. With Sarah.

Yeah. Mm hmm. And I would like that they're going back to last season was very complicated with you had the clones from Lita, which were the phenol clones and casters clones which were the male clones. Yeah.

And it was very Byzantine. Or by Zantin. It was very complicated. Which I didn't mind when you get to like the third, fourth season.

But they kind of went let's assume some of the mythology here and just go literally back to the beginning with Beth Childs and her whole thing. And we've never really focused on her and what drove her to that suicide. So I'm thrilled by the Orphan Black season premiere that delves into her and develops her. Also introduces a new clone MK or Dolly as her calling her.

She can ask. Which yes admittedly is eyes wide shut creepy. But it's kind of funny because she's a clone and they're calling her Dolly. I guess you're wondering about it's just the sheet mask.

It's very eyes wide shut weird. Like I said they're not as creepy as they used to be but before the forest mask got really popular. They were a little creepy for a while there. So I'm thrilled that Orphan Black is back.

Back in black. I'm just kidding. Because if I do what we do we have to like exal rose now. Exactly.

As we say on D20 for real reference. No. So I'm thrilled that Orphan Black is back and really functioning on a higher level I think in terms of writing and exploration than it did last season. I think last season was kind of pushing the plot along whereas this season looks like it's going to be character driven which I'm very excited about.

Speaking of character driven dramas the better call Salfa Nally happened. I know you don't watch that as well. I do. So we're just going to slam through a bunch of stuff that only I watch.

This season was extremely slow burn. It seemed like not a lot happened until you get to the end and you realize the consequences of everyone's actions. Saul or Jimmy. Jimmy fucking over his brother's brother.

I'm sorry his brother fucked him over first and his girlfriend. And then Jimmy went and fucked Chuck over as retaliation for fucking over the girlfriend whose name I can't remember off time. But it's a RSC horn is the name of the actress. Extremely slow burn but huge, huge cliffhanger but it's a very quiet cliffhanger.

You know what I mean? Yes. So, I'm really Chuck played by Michael McKim who is better called Saul Goodman's older brother. But Saul is still known as Jimmy.

Jimmy McGill. Jimmy! Jimmy! Jimmy!

Jimmy! That's a call back to literally two years ago. That Jimmy went and forged documents illegally to fuck over his brother, paid off the like pop copy guy. And then Chuck goes to like in front the pop copy guy which admittedly is the kinkos of Dave Chappelle.

Fuck him. That's why. But anyway, he goes up the kinkos and goes like I know my brother was here and then his electromagnetic sensitivity fucks him up and he almost dies. And Chuck ends up kind of cajoling, not cajoling, he kind of emotionally manipulates Jimmy Bob Oenkirk to admit that he forged the documents to fuck him over and was recording it.

Which obviously is not only criminal but grounds for disbarment which what does that mean in the grand scheme of things because we're watching Jimmy become Saul Goodman. It's obviously not going to get this far. No, but it'll be interesting to see Chuck have that leverage on Jimmy and what that's going to do especially because Jimmy and the girlfriend are opening their own law firm. And she said to him like it's two separate practices.

You do things your way because you're morally great and I'm not but it's in the same like office. So it ought to be interesting to see how Chuck's blackmail leverage works out in the next season. And you have Jonathan Banks who plays Mike Erwin Shrout, you know Jonathan Banks from the community. He was the first teacher that came in after Chevy Chase left.

Oh, Dave Cross's dad. Crap, what was his name in the community? No, the character's name because I just got to the second D&D episode. Brandon, there was a lot of laughter.

But the actor Jonathan Banks playing Mike Erwin Shrout, the character that's actually been the most interesting character arc in terms of how he gets involved with like the drug cartels. And it starts with him like basically manipulating a character into beating the shit out of him and then sending him to jail and then they go, we're going to kill your grandkid unless you take the heat for some of this. And he's like, well I have to. He then robs the guy and then tries to kill him which does not work.

Really enough, it's the name of the character. It's the Salamanca that's in the wheelchair in Breaking Bad. But in Better Call Saul, like he's Helen Hardy. So kind of wondering like does Jonathan, like does Mike Erwin Shrout really fucking over the point where he becomes almost vegetative in a wheelchair communicating with a pal?

I think the next season is going to be huge in terms of getting Jimmy McGill to Saul Goodman and getting Mike Erwin Shrout to where he was connected with the drug cartels in Breaking Bad. I think next season is going to be not a slow burn. It's going to be pretty bad in the heart. That sounded dirty.

So I got a kid. But it was a slow burn this season. A lot of character... They're never new to those now.

How can they not be? I mean with the audience of Breaking Bad supporting them, it's ridiculous. And it's a great show. Like I said, it's a slow burn.

And people need to realize that sometimes it's going to be plot driven, which is what you said fast and hard. Or sometimes it's going to be slow with character driven stuff. This one was very character driven. I like it.

Do you watch it? No, I like character driven stories now. Do you like the second season of Better Call Saul? Well I have to watch the first season first.

Did you watch Breaking Bad? Yeah, I did. You need to watch it first. Let's see.

DCTV, that's always our go to. Two things happened. One on, well, for my notes. One on Flash, one on Legends of Tomorrow.

Let's start with Flash. Were you really fucking confused by this episode? Yes, and then I read some things online that made more sense. That like Earth 2 Hunter Solomon tricked Earth, one Hunter Solomon to giving his life to play Jay while he killed him with the vibrating hand trick.

Like I literally was like, which Earth is this fucker from? I'm pretty sure we're going to see it here for. He's from Earth 2. I was going to say he's from Earth 2.

He's a serial killer. He's a central Solomon and he's still with like 32 people. Or whatever. Whether he was imprisoned.

They still haven't told us who's in the Iron Mask yet. The only teaser is, you wouldn't believe me if I told you. Which makes you think it's either Wally or Mary? But we saw Earth 2, Mary.

Yeah. Fucking nerd. But we didn't see Earth 2 while late. However, I feel like he wasn't gloved and he was white.

I mean, I can go back and look, but I feel like we saw white masks hands and he was white. Sweet, Leonardo Capriella. Hot off his Oscar win. From Titanic.

The Revanant? No, no, no, no, no. Oh, right now I'm thinking of it. Titanic Academy Awards went decapioed in the win.

I'm talking about what he did win. No, but he just did. Me and the Iron Mask directly after Titanic. No, that was his follow up movie Titanic was being announced.

Nerds. Any movie with Dartanion in it? I'm going to say I just gave it to me by the Queen of America. I'm a good dude, not a fan.

But anyway, enough lit nerd shit. Even though this would be the show where it would be showcased. I was really confused. I had to go back and kind of re-watch parts of it.

I like where Zum's mask came from. The almost like sons of the lambs leather mask they put on him to do the electro conducive therapy on him. The backstory they gave Solomon. Earth to Solomon.

Oh my God. He's standing there. His dad's wearing a helmet and he says you're going to want to see this. He puts the helmet on the kit.

And just like, oh my God. It would effectively be a service pistol, which. Weirdly enough, it would take a long time. But knowing some amount of ammunition and.

It's like a smothering person. It takes a lot longer to smother a person than anything. But like they talk about like the whole, like when you get shot in the stomach, like your own shit's poisoning you. Yeah, you die of steps.

You don't die from the whole. Correct. But like being shot and having a service pistol. It is an instant.

Like it's not long, but it's not instant. It was interesting. The way they kind of set up zoom as a high speed, Ed mean. But instead of collecting skin, he collects speed.

He's doing a speed suit. He is effectively. Sorry, I'm sorry. Barry's not disconnected from the speed force anymore.

They said that he's slowing down and becoming human. That's bullshit. The speed force is an interdimensional thing. And no one was watching Wells.

And Wells is always like, always doing something. So I think Wells has got like a spark in a vial somewhere. And going, okay, now we've got your loved ones out of the way. We'll three times through the speed force.

Give you the tacky on accelerator. And send you after him. I did like there was a moment and it was quick enough that I talked to some coworkers who watched the Flash and they didn't notice it. Did you notice that when Barry was wearing the tacky on accelerator, he goes, I can go faster.

And he seems to like going to Wormhole and then come back out. Did you see that little weird blip? I did not. I'm wondering when they're actually going to touch on the back that because he can go faster he can also think faster because they haven't even touched on that slide.

I think they'll, okay, I'm going to put a pen on that for a split second. Because when he goes to that Wormhole and comes back out and he runs in the start line and goes, I'm back. And they go, yeah, you're here. And he goes, that's not what I meant.

That was this crossover superhero. And I know that because I watched it. It was that great, except for that joke where they say like they look at the cats of a CW show. I'm not hyping it.

It was bad writing. Generated. But that split second blip, that was him going to the Supergirl crossover that happened, I think three weeks ago. Barry's not disconnected.

We haven't gotten to get things faster. I think we're going to get into that. Knowing Jeff Johns and having read the Jeff Johns run of Flash, I think you're going to see that thinking faster thing come out either against Grog. Or they're going to introduce the thinker.

Guess what he does. He sits like a statue and has a perfect ass. And his name's Jim Rogan. No.

Thanks. I think they'll eventually get into it. I don't think it's a high priority right now. I think we're still looking at physical fights with Barry the same way that it didn't work in the first talk movie by Ang Lee.

You were looking at me. Anyway. Wish I could quit you. Said Nick Nolte to Eric Bennett.

But there wasn't a physical threat to the Hulk. It was a metaphorical figurative threat to the Hulk, which was horrible. But you see that in the Norton version, like they had the abominations, like yes, you have an equal threat. Again, my radiated monster creature.

Gamma radiation is harmless. It's not always harmless. No, it isn't that. I know what you're referencing.

I think there was Ironman 2. No, it's the actual Avengers when Yuri is talking about gamma rays. Not always being harmless. That's Ironman 2.

When they needed the donut place? No, no, it's any Avengers. Does it really? Because he sends Starlight after him and he's an indie at reading patients.

That's right. With Flash, you still have like... It's like that's it, Starlight. I'm not Blackwood.

That's right. You still have like threat to us to be like reverse Flash zoom. I think next season, yeah, it should be somewhat more surreal. Whether it be Grod or the thinker I think would be really neat.

Today was a huge arc. I think half right in my head, which means Jeff Johnson is gonna... If he can connect that whole brainstorm, melon, more idea of the world. I think in the same thing at the same time.

It's all collective consciousness. But like literal thought storms. If Jeff Johnson can get a bit of my precipitation, I think he'll... Presentation?

What does that say? You said precipitation. Yeah. You don't mean a procession?

No. It's a thought storm. It's a written joke. Legends?

Thoughtful rain. Thoughtful rain. No. I have a half full canopy here that I will throw at me.

You're not gonna throw at me. Exactly. It's not because I don't want you to talk about lazy. Legends of tomorrow.

Here are my two biggest things. I'm good at one bad. I'll sort the bad. Did you watch it?

Nope. Okay. Well, we saw the last episode. They're sending the pilgrim to kill our younger selves.

And they saved younger Rory. And they saved the pilgrim and I immediately imagined John Wayne. I'm here to kill him. I'm here to Tom.

Kill you. That's what you're gonna think from now on. The hell out. Well, they sent the pilgrim back to kill their earlier selves.

Now, it's Rory after he sets his first real fire and burns his family alive. It's Sarah Lance when she's alive before she's gone. She's alive before she's met the League of Assassins. And Ray before he becomes the atom.

I think of the three kind of big ones you see. And then they have the bright idea. We're just gonna steal you guys as infants to protect you. And take you to temporal anomalous or footage.

Run by rip hunters, adoptive or could be literal mother. You never really get a sense on that one. But I think it's figurative mother, adoptive mother rather. A, this causes over the paradoxes with them holding their own infant selves.

I'm like, have we all not seen Time Cop? You melt. Same space cannot contain the same matter at the same time. Yeah.

Yeah. Ron Silver showed us. Is it one of the sole things? Ron Silver, right?

That's what that guy named that guy. No, I can't. Did you not see Time Cop? No, we just haven't seen it in a really long time.

Hold on. Don't, don't. You're fine. Don't.

Okay. Okay. So paradoxes galore and the whole thing, if you still yourself as an infant, then you're significant others that pilgrim used as leverage wouldn't remember you anyway because they would never met you because they were abducted as children. So they wouldn't be loved ones.

You know what I mean? What? Okay. No, no, I get it.

It's just not good. Yeah. No, it was really convoluted. I think a really bad guy from.

It was really convoluted. I didn't like that aspect of it, especially now that they're going to have another, that set up in payoff is basically another set up where they have to like return them to their own times to reset the number. But once again, the quote in the flash time fell, it gives me a headache. The one good thing I did like is that they tricked the pilgrim who could like stop time within a localized area, like in case she's attacked by heat wave, Captain Cold, firestorm, white canary, rip, shooting the gun, like an atom shooting his whatever, Iron Man repulsor beams.

That's what he is, he's tiny Iron Man. That the, the pilgrim stops all this and doesn't notice that when rip hunter had said like, I'll do my younger self and it's changed for all of their loved ones, right? Yeah. If you had to mention that part.

And then when she's stopping all of the localized time and the energy attacks and she's like, hahaha, she doesn't see young rip walking the fucking knife and start shanking her. Shank, shank, shank, shank. And, and fucking distracts her enough that like, there you go. He just starts fucking shankering her and then that distracts her enough that they get, white canary gets young rip out of the way.

It's revealed that his first name is Michael. Mm hmm. Getting closer to the whole booster gold thing. But like that rip hunter was pretty much just as ruthless as a 10 year old as he is as a 30 year old.

Which is what I'd expect from Rory Pond. Oh, David. Is that your name? No, it's my head.

It's my head. My head popped? Yeah, they get to get to the displeasure. Pretty much all peer friends do.

Are you implying you're a peer of red because I've found my B-bit? What other DC do you want to talk about? Uh, that was it. I'm not talking about arrows.

Arrows not- Arrows off for a couple weeks. And I zombie's had their finale. Yep, we're done. I mean we get season three.

I'm not talking about the fact that Marvel has pulled one of their movies from the slate. Which one? In humans. No.

Yeah, Marvel pulled the in humans yesterday from their slate. Interesting. And they've given no other release date for us. They're kind of hitting towards the fact that Indiana Jones' volume was slated to open a week after it.

Yeah, that's gonna open a week after it. Well, like I said, they pulled in humans from their slate. We've got nothing in humans in terms of shield which we're gonna talk about. Great segue.

Yeah, absolutely. Um, but talk more about- What do you think they pulled in humans? I don't think that there's enough interest in it. And yeah, they've gotten the good build on the entire piece of shield.

But the thing is the release date was like July 12th, 2019. So it's not like they didn't have time for- It's a lot of wigglery. A lot of wigglery. Well, it's not that they've canceled the movie.

They just pulled the release date and they haven't announced a new one. Yeah. Does that make sense? Doctor Strange knew already.

I'm hoping. No, they haven't released anything new. Like I said, they just pulled the release date and haven't announced anything new. I don't- Yeah, no, I don't really have any other- Yeah, like I said.

I think they're gonna sub in- I think by- I think they're gonna sub anything in. Because I think the Disney is going to give Indiana Jones a chance to thrive. Oh, that's right. They're about Lucas, right?

Yeah. So that's all the same thing. That Disney Marvel and Lucas, it's all the same studio. I think they're giving Indiana Jones five some more room to breathe to make some more money and just delaying the inhumans until they can find somewhere else to stick it.

No. That sounded dirty. Well, it's almost like inhumans don't stick it in Indiana Jones. Right.

Unpleasant. Speaking of inhumans, on shield, you find out that Hive played by Brett Dalton who plays Ward. He's getting creepier. Yeah, he's- Yeah.

Um, you find that he infected one of the inhumans on the Secret of- not Secret of Avengers. Secret Warriors. Would you see the team finally happen? Actually, that was the name of the last week's episode was the team.

No, the team. Um, you see the Secret Warriors come together. Um, yo, yo, the guy who can melt metal, uh, Lincoln and Daisy. Um, who Mack keeps calling tremors, but you know, in the comics gets killed in Quake.

Um, go shoot, let's go. Uh, that's a joke. Quicker? Yeah.

Yeah, absolutely. Um, then you find out at the end of the episode really quick set of payoff on which of the inhumans that Hive infected is Daisy. Why wouldn't it be with the weird pseudo-sexual tension between Ward and Daisy? He put his little guys on her.

Like, come on. Oh, I'm sorry, that's why I was giggling. Because they've always had this weird chemistry between two of them. And they have- I mean, it's- From day one.

And they're- I mean, there's great chemistry between the actors. Um, but when they talk about like, I'm kind of shipping- I'm not allowed to say shipping things, but you know what I mean? Like, that like Ward and- and Daisy were kind of like, star-crossed lovers, so to speak. No, he's having a little mad about the purple man like that.

He was rather- and became hydrone and infected her. They were totally gonna get together. Well now he could like, make or do anything all a purple man. So- or kill brave, as you know me.

Daisy! Smile. Oh, oh, God, I feel 30. He's having a listen to that.

If he just wouldn't use this fucking tough doctor accent, it would've been a little better. Um, but I was- You can walk about the purple man like that. It'll be interesting to see what happens that when they- Ugh. Yeah, exactly.

That was like the first like, 15 minutes, 20 minutes. Yeah, because she's on the subway and she had doses for a second. No, he licks her in her office. But he's in her ear and she, uh, he's in her ear not sexually.

No, she's on the train when the lick- the lick in it happens. No, it's in the office when she's like, not so drunk. Because he goes, Jessica, like, and her ear and she turns around and punches the widow and everyone's like, what the fuck? Yeah, but he doesn't lick her.

He licks her when? Yeah, because her head is down. Her head is down when you licks her in the office. This is also horrible.

I'm gonna need to go back and see exactly when- The Elicter. David Tenet, Lick's Christian printer. Um, so no, it ought to be interesting to see kind of the- once in set up payoff into another setup in terms of that high of has infected days. Okay, which I get, but like I said, since they pulled the impugents and occupied us release date, they give someone four years to build to applaud that movie from Agents of Shield.

Which I think is playing time for them to figure out where it's gonna go. Not only in Shield, but in- No, in the universe. In the MCU, yeah, the Marvel Cinematic Universe. The question is, are the Inhumans from Shield gonna be in humans or is it gonna be focused on the royal family with Medusa, Black Bolt, and hopefully, fingers crossed if you're a comp-ner at Lock Jaw?

Well, here's the thing, though, is that when they announce- The giant teleporting Inhuman dog. Except here's the thing, the Inhumans movie though is when they announced it, they also announced that the rock was already attached. No, Vin Diesel. Is it Vin Diesel?

Are you sure it's not the rock? It's- Rock is tied up in DC, because it's gonna be black out of them. Right. So, we're gonna play Black Bolt, which is a genius move in terms of he's the voice of group, how do we not confuse children, give him a character who doesn't talk.

It was Black Bolt who doesn't talk. His voice is like a powerful weapon. A whisper could destroy a mountain, as they say. You know, like, Landis Morced.

Anyone who's not already dead or a vangelical being, cover your ears. I'm gonna say Dogma, but yeah, I'll just let you all really quote. Dogma? I was quoting Dogma.

Yes, I know. What the fuck is that? What the fuck is she? What the fuck happened to that guy's head?

I am interested to see, uh, speaking of which, uh, the episode of Flash that Kevin Smith directed, because apparently Jason Mews plays one of, like, Zoom's gimporiors? Like, what- Have you seen the costume you said? No. He's a gimp warrior.

Thanks for that. You're welcome. Um, so that's shield. Um, Deb, you've watched it.

I have not- I'm not all the way through with that. Oh, you watched most of the unbreakable commission, didn't you? I have. I've got some protein effets or terraphes.

I have. And I love that Trump-Tina-Faze therapist, Black Male's sober-Tina-Faze therapist. Yeah. Um, I like that there's, like, a Jekyll and Hyde vibe to that.

No, it's an absolutely Jekyll and Hyde vibe. And have you gone to the episode where she tries to get her to quick drinking yet? No. Damn it!

I just got to the- I'm on the episode where- I really want you to finish watching this season so we can talk about this. Her therapist says she should talk to her mother or so. She's talking to Titus, this picture of Jekyll Davis, that he stole from a dry cleaner while he's back with her. I don't know if you're not another yet.

Nope. Okay, first half of the season, so she's working in the Christmas door. Yep. Her boss is creepy.

Her boss is great. No, her boss is great. Just everything about his appearance is so off-putting. Absolutely.

Like he does look exactly like a little elf doll except real people sized? Yeah, and he is really in drogenous on that first time you see him. Yeah, and so she goes to try and help- Jacqueline? Or Jackie Lane, depending on- Like I said, no, it sounds like a- James name.

Jacqueline, who won, I love her doing the electric slide as the corn dance in the field. Oh, that girl called her a white idiot in Navajo River, but it's- Like I said, so she's back out on the reservation with the police car that she stole and the record and the diamond back. From Heath's throat. And she ends up getting locked in there again after he kind of basically her parents tell her she doesn't really belong here anymore, so she needs to go- I have the vision quest.

Like I said, she goes and has the vision quest having Heath stroke in the back of the police car that she steals, which I love. And I really like- Unfortunately, I think you haven't gotten there yet. There's a few episodes where her character just doesn't appear in much, which sucks. Like you might not have gotten there yet.

There's a few episodes that just aren't real focused on her story, but they get back to it by the end of the season. Okay. But I love her going back to set up the charity organization and basically setting up an entire front of how much money she has. Yep.

The loft with all of the empty boxes and the first sleeping on the ear matrix passed the plastic. And I was going to say I love all of it. I'm trying to set up a charity, the Turtle Island charity. Yeah.

Turtle Island's charity, which I love. She steals away from that blonde that's from True Blood. Oh, she's the Alpha. Alpha Queen.

Yeah. Their rivalry is hilarious. Oh my God, the girl that plays the actual rival, when that plays the Queen where it's like- The one from True Blood whose name is Anna Camp? Sure.

No, I think it's Anna Camp. She plays the new, uh, uh, Reverend Newell's wife, who's a moron. I mean, in both Kimmy Schmidt and- Oh right, it's Anna Camp. Anna Camp.

She's in Pitch Perfect, she's in True Blood, she's been in a lot of stuff. She's really come up recently. She's an amazing student in the hell. She goes in and out of the smartest, dumbest things you've heard.

Well, this is one of those things where she's an incredibly smart woman, but she hasn't been stimulated much and she's completely attached to status symbols. So she goes back and forth between a rivalry and being satisfied and not feeling anything. It's that scene where they have their, um, what is it? They have their fundraisers at the same time.

And she's such a black- That's actor, she has no expression for them lowering the kids with the sewer to play teenage and into turtles. And don't let Kimmy Schmidt listen to me. I don't think she shouldn't be able to do that. I loved it.

There's that point where it seems like Jank or Kowski's character, Jacqueline, seems to get one over on the Queen Blonde girl. Don't remember what a character's name is. The actress is the same. Yeah.

Yeah. And she starts like laugh crying and you realize that she's hurt socially, but she's got that rivalry, that intellectual stimulus to it. At some point earlier in the series, she's like, oh, I just had twins yesterday, I'm disgusting. Oh, yeah.

Oh, God, so awkward. No, that's when Jank or Kowski realizes that their fundraisers are on the same night. Because she goes in for a sting thing with, oh, we didn't even talk about Amy Sederis yet. And we're getting there.

Amy Sederis is me, me, I'm in love with- She's gonna have her own fucking show. It would be a great spinoff. I didn't know she was in the season and to have her suddenly come in and just make- I mean, she steals the show. The way that Jank Rikowski stole the show last season, Amy Sederis steals the show- We should say Ellie Kemper is not a strong lead.

Oh, no, she's a great lead. I think what is really is, Titus and Rokis? Well, it's really, he's actually Titus. I can't think it was the actual last name of the guy who was Titus and John Badon.

Or was it Ronald Wilson? Yeah, I think that's- Was it a straight name? Yeah. I love Amy Sederis.

I mean, I've loved her since like strangers with candy. If you ever read any of David Sederis's books- And you realize that one of his sisters is- No, when he's talking about her, it's hilarious. He tells a story about how she's always just wanting to be other people. He tells a story about her imitating a friend of their parents who was an art gallery owner and calling their dad, telling their dad that she wants to hook up with him because her marriage is falling apart.

And this is like at age 10 at a prank. And so her dad basically tries to keep setting this woman up with other people because he's not interested. And she doesn't admit to a prank until like 15 or 20 years. Oh, yeah.

I mean, it's like- The Sederis has played the long game on that kind of stuff. She's also the one that he tells a story of them being on the subway together and her getting off to stop for him and saying good luck fighting the rape charges David and walking off. And him having to uncomfortably try and explain what's happening to everyone else when the crowd is subway- That's what she goes- It's my sister. Hold on, that's worse.

Like, yeah. Like I said, he's always described her as always being more comfortable playing someone else than being herself. Which I think she- Well, please throw it out of fact. Well, he talks about a specific time when all of them were coming home and she spent almost the entire time wearing the bottom half of a fat suit.

And being in character. Yeah. But Amy Sederis, as me, me, is fucking hilarious. Oh, God, she's so funny.

But the episode where they have fundraisers at the same time. And no, no, the episode- Just you extend the closet. I'm way ahead of you. I like to just close it up.

The episode where they're going to where ex-husband sweating to his new life. Yep. And she shows up and she's there with somebody else. That Jacqueline tried to hit on you.

And she's- And- But she's- Decided not to go for it. Yeah. She's like- Well, because she's off limits. Because of Julian.

She's been blacklisted socially. Yeah. I was going to say it. It's one of those things where she shows up and she totally shuns her until you know.

Kimmy shows up and they think she's there with her hot new lesbian girlfriend. And she goes, checklist's my new best friend. I've drawn through that in two days and I'm fantastic. It's when she's like passed out on the couch during the- Oh, God.

The prologue episode- No, it's fake Christmas. Yes, but you don't know that on the first episode. No, you have nobody what's happening. They're like, why's Mimi here?

And she's like, Jacqueline took the old lady into the movies and I think the black guy's dead. When you finally get the payoff on fake Christmas. Oh, there's so much more you haven't even got to. I know.

I really need you to finish watching. I'm three. That was- Well, you know what? If Vinnie would have shot up at the bar, I would have watched this.

I'm sorry you had to have a lateful company in conversation. Yeah, so I thought awkward duck face. Don't the Jim Jeffers face. I would have done that in a while.

Um. No, um, I have to say however, it's really interesting because at the end of the series, a bunch of things happened that they had to fake because Ellie Kemper is pregnant now. Did John, John, him actually cameo on some of the episodes. Like the one where they talk about like him flipping the eyes and mouth thing to look interested.

I don't know if he's in that, but he's in at least one episode this season. Okay. Because they totally do a bombshell cliffhanger on the last episode. Bombshell?

Bombshell. Like it's giant. Okay. So I don't know that wouldn't shock me if it was him with the eyes mouth switch thing.

Okay. But yeah, no, he's in at least one episode. No. Maybe more than that because I think he might do a voice thing for something else.

I think he's yeah. I think he's in like voice for something. Like I said, no, he's in at least one episode this season. I'm excited for you to see the others and luckily they do have a big gap.

Because like I said, Ellie Kemper was about one or two months pregnant at the very end of the series. I know she has like the very visible baby bombs. So when they actually start filming again, I was going to say she'll probably be back to her normal figure. Or her host.

She just had twins. I was just not staying. I just had kids. And we're in the night veil.

No. I have it's not that I hated it's that it was so over stuffed. I think my initial reactions I was talking to you about this off air earlier. It seems that there are parts of it that were written by Crater and parts of it that were written by Fink.

Well, the thing is it's really good. And it's very left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. So it seems all the repetitive for parts of it. Okay.

I think it's like bitch about the first third of the book because once you get past that when the two main characters finally intersect. Which I've gotten to. Everything goes so much quicker and more smoothly. Okay.

It's just it's. Until that happens. Yeah. And I think it's they come into contact a few times before they really kind of joy their journeys.

Okay. Like go cross paths two or three times before their journeys really intersects. Yeah. It's I said it before I could do that the first third of that book.

However, you had a very satisfied moment happened. I did I had to wait for a hundred and fifty three pages, but it happened when you finally meet John John Peters, you know, the farmer. He finds a visible corn right. And that door.

Um, once again, I love the fact that if you don't know the podcast, you can get sucked into this world. It'd be harder, but they still do have those nods where if I love this to my mom should go. Okay. So John Peters is a farmer.

I'm going to go John Peters, you know, the farmer. And just look at me. And I'm like once again, you have like a hundred hours or fifty hours of actual audio to back up this book before you even get to the book. But they don't.

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