Hello and welcome to another episode of Retrospection. It's time to throw on the flowery jacket, the brown turtle neck and get groovy with the ITC entertainment show, Jason King that ran from 1971 to 1972. My name's Colin and let's just roll the credits and fade to black. Oh, we're just tired, haven't we?
Oh, yes we have, you're right. Did I sleep through the episode? Hang on. Usually do.
This is true, this is true. My name's Paul and if either you or your Mickey Mouse Cockrook clog interrupts me again. I shall stuff the Mark Twain series up on your Catharay tubes. Ooh.
What happened to you? I got angry there for a second. You did? Yeah, I was feeling it.
DDB says after leaving department S, the hedonistic womanizing down day, Jason King, settles down to a full time career of writing Merc Kane novels. He philanders his way around the world, doing research for his stories and tripping over a variety of art, often verging on surreal cases, usually involving beautiful women, occasionally blackmailed into working for British intelligence under the threat of being arrested for unpaid back taxes. That is not this episode that we're covering. That's all, really is it?
No, it's not. No, no. Okay, I was going to be interested in talking about that because I'm going to be off front when you know I thought I knew what the show was and I didn't. I don't think I've ever seen Jason King before.
But you seem department S. Do you know what I thought I had? I'm not sure I thought I had. Maybe we should have done department S first then.
I think I'm mixing it up with something else. With every other ITC show? Possibly. Yeah, they're out of them.
Yeah, so this was all new to me. So this first episode, I've got questions as we're going on because you've seen more of this, aren't you? Yes, right. Okay, that's good.
Were you sitting there going, where's the ghost turn up? No, I was sitting there thinking, is this it? Is this what the show is? Because this is not the thing I thought I was going to be like a detective show where he's a bit a little bit of Austin Powers thing going on and he's solving crimes and he's a playboy and that is not what we get in there.
It's what we kind of get at, but not. Right. It's kind of strange. Yeah, yeah.
This first episode entitled Wanna Buy Your Television Set? Stairs Peter Windgard is Jason King, David Boer as Harry Cabell, Derek Francis and Bertobolini and a Polk as Michelle Andre and Nicholas Cartney as Dr. Stephen. Yeah, Nicholas Cartney, the Brigadier.
Yes. I'm not allowed. Yes. Very young looking, right?
Very young. I'm in a very curious accent that he kind of tries to maintain but then gives up. Right. He's directed by Roy Ward Baker as a veteran hammer and British TV director.
Saifans? Is he German? Is he the German guy? He's the brother of the other one.
Oh, okay. Yeah. It's written by Dennis Booner. I hardly knew I.
Also veteran of British TV. Did you have that guy written down or was that ethical? That's ethical. Wow.
All right. So this first episode aired on ATV, Midlands in the UK on Wednesday the 15th of September 1971 at 8 PM. Not all ITV regions were showing it. Some had the Saint, Department S are the Avengers on his dead.
So they had something similar. There's a lot of good choice though, depending on where you were in the country. Yeah. BBC One at 8 PM, you would have just been catching the end of an episode of original Star Trek.
BBC One. I think we know where I'd be then. Yeah. Do you know what the episode is?
Oh, but you know that. I know the episode. Oh, he's pinpointed. Inspector of the gun.
Classic episode. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.
I would have been watching that. Yeah. Definitely. Yeah.
As briefly mentioned, Jason was a character in the Department S series and we have to talk about this. He was so popular, he was given his own show and I don't mean the character. I mean, Peter Wingard. So let's talk about his unlikely sex appeal and not just in the UK.
OK, so by unlikely, what are you inferring that? Well, it doesn't look like a sex symbol. Do you know what? He was one of those actors.
As I was watching this, I was curious to know how old he was. Did you look it up? I did look it up. It's really hard to tell with these actors sometimes, particularly 60s and 70s guys, because he looks like he's probably about 50, but he could be 25 for all I know.
That's the 70s for you. They led tough lives back then, didn't they? Well, let's just say Peter Wingard. He was about 36, 37.
Wow, I wouldn't have guessed that. No, he, I think he had a tough paper round, but that way. Finally, you should say that, a newspaper reported, according to an early 1970s survey, 40,000 Australian women chose Wingard as the man to whom they would have liked to lose their virginity to. And I bet he was happy to comply with that, wasn't he?
Oh, he was voted Britain's Best Rest of Male Personality in 1970 and then again in 1971. Did he work his way down under? Oh, look at you. I'm cracking up today.
Yeah, mobbed by tens of thousands of women on his arrival and said that he took three days in hospital to recover. Is that true? Yes. That's not a bit you'll do, you'll always do.
No, that's true. Wow. Wow. I mean, Timothy Chalamet, he could only dream of this kind of thing, didn't he?
Yeah. I mean, when you look at Peter Wingard, I just get away from Fakerati and cigarettes. Oh, absolutely. I've done Scotch.
Don't forget the Scotch. Yeah, lots of Scotch. Yeah. But he's so, erm, the only way I can think of to describe him, he's so gosh, isn't he?
He's so sort of like completely laid back, not in face with him. He's immaculately dressed at all times. Yeah. He's got a face that he's got a face that he's got a face.
He's lived in face. It is. It's a lived in face. Yeah, he's an interesting guy.
Yes. Of course, we know him as kids. What do we know him from? We know him as the guy from Flash Garden.
Clitis. Yeah. Clitis. I knew it sounded like a bit of a neural disease.
That's probably something he got treated for in the 70s, to be honest. Well, he gave it. Well, yeah, after his trip to Australia, probably. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, he's an interesting guy. Yeah. He would have been itchy down on the...
...to carry on your joke from earlier. Yeah, you know he's had a dose. More than once. Yeah, no.
And we should also point out that he sort of had a singing career. Yeah. Now, you sent me a link to one of his... ...and I'm going to call it a song.
It is a song. Yeah. A lot of his songs are kind of... ...of William Shire Devade in that he talks more than sings.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I sent you a track of his album.
Yes. One of his albums. Oh, I can hope for it is that it was Tong in cheek. Who's Tong?
Yeah. It's the Wingard. Who knows? Yeah.
Did you want to name the track? Yeah. I'm not sure. It's a lucky one.
Lucky down. Lucky down. Lucky down. And give it a listen.
But maybe not. Yeah. If you're going to listen, prepare to be offended. Yeah.
Yeah. You talk about who you are. Yeah. Because he covers the basses.
He covers the whole planet in this song. Yeah. He also had a reputation for taking way too long in the make-up chair as well. How do you take too long in the make-up chair?
Does the make-up part is doing the work? What does he just keeps telling it to do stuff? Yeah. He was never happy with his hair or his make-up and he always wanted to tweak it.
So in the end, apparently the producers just gave him a week. Oh. So that they didn't have to mess about it. He could take up to like two hours just in the make-up chair apparently.
Well that's half an hour less than you. Just take me an hour to get ready in the morning. I know right. Yeah.
Got a polish. Yeah. This doesn't fix itself, you know. No one would help.
Yeah. So Anshar plays Nicola Harvester. And apparently she was actually the wife of the show's producer, Monty Berman. Oh.
Don't worry. A little bit of nepotism there. Is it nepotism when you get your wife involved? Or is it just kids?
I don't know. Is that work. Probably right actually. Yeah.
So what is it? Oh no. Yeah. Monty Berman's a great name as well isn't it?
It's a very good name. Yes, I like it. I think I'll change my name to Monty Wood. You know my dog's called Monty.
I do, yes. Okay. That'll be confusing for you, isn't it? It would.
Yeah. Only one of them's house trained. So Monty Berman, he's got a long list of producer credits including the Champions from 1968. I think that was ITC as well, isn't it?
ITC show, yes. The Adventurer from 1972. Yeah. I'm not seeing it, but it is not my list of things to watch.
Randal and Popcoque deceased in 1969. He was involved in that as well. ATC show. And various genre movies from the 50s and 60s.
This guy worked a lot. Oh, all right. So I guess it's on with the show. So we open in Geneva with a heavily bandaged patient via a wielding tour room.
And then we quickly got to a guy, Frank Calderle, even prison, with a brown paper tied up personal. Who was used to tie things up in brown paper with string in those days? Yeah, it reminded me of Porridge, actually. I was waiting for the voiceover, Norman Stanley Fletcher.
And the sound of the birds. Yeah, but yeah. He had a, he had a household, didn't he as well? Must have been what they did.
Yeah. Yeah. But it kind of cuts around a bit because when we next see Carl there is on a plane looking at a photo of a woman. Yeah, and some of this camera work is shocking, to be honest.
I didn't notice anything. Yeah, it was some of the shots that really badly framed and some of the sort of dolly work looked a bit slapdash. It just seemed a bit amateurish. But not to give it in away.
I got it later. Oh, okay. Let's just hear it. So there isn't a car arriving at Geneva.
It seems a woman has been surgically altered to resemble the lady in his photograph. I'm guessing so. Yes. Yeah.
And Col do in his colleague, Glitchfield, into the patient's room and the dress is removed. Now, you have to say that 1970s plastic surgery was truly amazing. Oddly, better than plastic surgery you can have today. Because when those dressings are removed, not only is there no swelling, no cuts, no bruising, no scarring, she's also wearing perfectly applied makeup.
I made a similar note as well. I mean, plastic surgery in rubies and TV. It is another level, isn't it? It's always perfect.
I assumed it's like the Romans. Oh, sir. Oh, when they occupied the UK, the country had underfloor heating and running water. And then when they bugged off, the understanding of how this technology operated was lost.
And people went back to flinging their poop out of the window. So I assumed there must have been some massive blackout in the understanding of plastic surgery. Sometime in the 80s, and we lost the ability to change people's faces about any side effects whatsoever. Maybe some archaeologist will uncover it at some point.
Maybe the tools that are required. Yeah, definitely. Anyway, she looks great and just like a publicity shot. I mean, photograph.
I just want to say as well, you don't throw your shit out of the window anymore? No, no. I keep it in jazz labeled by Dame Dehate. We get another great Laurie Johnson, ATC theme tune.
Always a banger. It's a cracking theme tune, like it. Yeah, all the music in this. I mean, some of it strays into 1974 andography at some point.
I wouldn't know anything about that. Neither would I. You'd be in the X-Men's, I mean, I've read about it. I mean, I've read about it.
On the back coffers of the DVDs, you've got... Dinks of Rhodes? No, I've got a lot of things for that. But that's your favorite period of partners, isn't it?
1970s? Well, you know, it's just a bit more... This is what I was throwing a grenade in. Take a sip and watch what happens.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, over it. It's just a bit more... The stories were better, right? Right, the stories were better.
Yeah, there was actual performances that did just get down to the nitty gritty. It was, you know, there was stuff going on, you know? What films was she in, nitty gritty? Oh, was she in...
I didn't say play Misty for me, but that was not a porn film, was it? You know the one. No, I don't. Oh, yeah, they were really famous one.
The British one with the British actress in. Murray Millington. Ah, yes. Great documentary, but I actually checked out.
Yeah, that one. What was I saying? No idea, I'm just watching you ramble on. But I mean, it's just, you know, it's just thicker, isn't it?
The... The story's just thicker. You know, there's more. Is that what you want from this one?
Yeah, there's... It's a thicker story. Thicker. I've never heard stories refer to as being thicker or thin.
Yeah, more growth going on, you know? Right. That's what I'm saying. I think we should move on.
I think maybe, yeah. This is not going well. Yeah. I think we are.
And Jason King is with Harry, who's a film TV producer, right? Yeah, P. Wingard has an easy opening scene, doesn't he? He just sits in a chair, drinks, can scotch and smoke.
I mean, it's a perfect morning, really, isn't it, Warren? So, it says a man who sits at a podcast, drinking. The only thing missing is a cigarette or a cigar. I mean, I have been referred to as the Northern P.
Wingard at a time. Who be high? I mean, for a start, these must be people over 60, because no one's heard of P. Wingard under like 50.
So, does that for a start? They've got bad eyesight, you know? I'm surprised they're still alive, these people. Not anymore.
Why would you do it? Or just because they refer to a speed to wingard, you lost it. Let's just keep going, all right? Okay.
All right. So, he's trying to sell, he's not trying to sell, but he's written a synopsis for a televised version of one of his Mac, Kane novels. Yeah. So, this was my first instance of being quite shocked by this, because this is meta before a meta was even a twinkle in your daddy's eye, wasn't it?
It was not expecting this at all. This was something completely different. I've got to say as well. In the stuff that we see where we see the show that he's pitching that we've got, that was a board.
It's got to be an influence on Gala Meringi's diet place, because the acting is so over the top, the sound effects are so over the top, and it gets really silly, doesn't it? It's got to be an influence on that show. We'll say it's done on purpose. It's making fun of ITC shows within itself.
Exactly. Which is an odd way to do a first episode, but I'm assuming in some sense, it isn't a first episode because people would have watched a permanent ask. We talked about it, I don't think I've seen department ask. So, and you've seen more of Jason King and you've seen department ask.
This is not typical of either of those shows. No. Right. Okay.
Did I'm kind of disappointed by that? You expected this every episode. That would grow old fast. I guess.
You wouldn't be able to keep that. I guess. I'll tell you why. I don't want to give away what I think of the episode yet.
So, we'll talk about that at the end. But yeah, I'm on board with this. So, we should explain that he's telling Harry about the synopsis of his first episode, which mirrors what we've just seen, but also is an exaggeration of what we're going to see going on. So, we're going to switch between him and the office reading the synopsis to what he's reading actually happening.
Yes. Yeah. This is how you'd write yourself into a script that I got on it. If you were pitching a show to a TV executive and you, you know, you modeled the main character on yourself, you'd be tall, rugged, you know, yet gentle, you know, drinking scotch, you know, having it away with the ladies.
There you go. As he said, he's doing it. I have been referred to as the Peter Wingard of the North. Well, hang on.
I've heard that before. I've heard that before. Yeah. Except of course now King wants to cut to a girl in a bikini on a boat.
And we get a different set of opening credits for this fictional episode. He describes Matt King as being six, four, and a half inches of steel, slim and well-proportioned with the body of an athlete, that curly her and a moustache. And of course, what we're seeing is King playing King, or Wingard playing King playing King. Because as a writer, I mean, you base, you'd want to be the main character.
You'd write it as wishful film and isn't it? Yeah, that's why you wrote that serial killer. Yeah, what? No, no mind.
So, it's all fun, right? Absolutely. I'm completely on with it. As I said, this is not what I was expecting.
And I was more than pleasantly surprised by this. Right. They said discussing what you need in a TV episode, punching to the action. And how is that questioning the look of King?
Why does he have to be so offbeat? So, you're making fun of Wingard's own persona. Absolutely. He's going with it as well.
You can see the Wingard's enjoying himself as well in the scenes with the TV. Yeah. Gotta say that. He's extremely low energy acting on his part.
The whole, all of it is, isn't it? Well, he is kind of late. As you said, he's late, but I don't think he ever gets too excited. Yeah.
I mean, I like it. Don't get me wrong. He's not a criticism. He kind of works.
I can see, like, in somebody who doesn't get worked up about him and just lay back and does nothing. I can see where the appeal is for you. I don't know what you mean by that call. No.
Fervatel, we're now in a cruise ship with two other men, one of them called Umberta Bellini, and a woman who is apparently there for sex appeal. Apparently. Yeah, because she's in a dress when King describes her, but then the producers are like, wait, she should be a bikini and being a bikini. Yeah.
Later, a casino. Kane has won a lot of money. And the woman we originally saw in the hospital, Michelle Andre, turns up. A guy is surprised because she is supposed to be dead.
So at this point, you're like, are we in an episode of Matt Kane? Are we actually in Jason King? I never got confused in that way. I always I got what the...
It seemed it was all made up. Yeah, I got what the gag was running through the episode. Yeah. So I thought it was fine.
Got to say, I mean, the first time I'm going to mention it, but clothes. Yeah. That massive bow tie was incredibly distracting that he's wearing in the casino. He didn't like it.
It was wider than his neck. It was it was huge. Like in a cartoon where a dog swells a dog's side-place. It was a bit like that.
Yes. Right. And also amongst these actors is an incredible array of actors showing off the show. What accents they can accomplish.
Yeah. Yeah. Because we're globetrotting. We're in Geneva.
We're in New York. We're in somewhere else. I can't remember what the other places are. Probably public health places like that.
We're all over the show, right? Which is a big thing in the 60s. I'm pretty sure that we're just in a studio in somewhere in the side of England. I can't really.
I won't argue with that. Yeah. There's a lot of stock footage in this. Yes.
Yes, there is. Yeah. So we learned that she doesn't recognise on Bertot, but really she should. And explained to them that this is Litchel's wife and that she suffers from a loss of memory and has no recollection of anything from the past two years.
And on Bertot, I was like, oh, that's weird. But come to my art. Yeah. And Kane's there.
And he's a bit suspicious. So he calls a friend, Inspector Henry Russell of the police. He goes to check it out, Michelle. Yeah.
Inspector Russell is played by Andre Moran, who's probably best known. He's in the Pink Panther movies. Do you know who he plays in those films? I think he's kind of Cluso's sort of foil.
He's kind of like, well-known. He's a great guy. I mean, he puts up with a lot of crap from Fluso. He's his assistant kind of thing, you know?
Oh, so he's like me, right? He was this podcast. It's interesting you went that way round, but OK, all right. Prochange, yeah.
Prochange, I did. In this scene as well, going back to the clothes, Kane, that suit is wearing a Necro-vat. There's a lot of Cravats in this episode. Very Cravat-evic.
It is. And they get more spectacular as it. Each Cravat appears. Yeah.
You don't see a Cravat anymore, did you? No, you're thinking of bringing it back? Well, you know, I'll hand it to the list. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, you've got that vibe about you, haven't you? Yeah, that's true. Wait, well, well, what's the vibe of how you look about that?
You've got that kind of 60s, 70s vibe about you, haven't you? I don't mean that as a, I'm not insulting you. Seriously, you know, I'm genuinely, you know, observing you. Look, you get your right now.
Don't do that, that's weird. You can probably feel uncomfortable. You'd fit right in this era, telling you. Yeah, I think we both looked really good.
No, always the more. So we come back to the office in New York. King keeps getting interrupted by a buzzing alarm, which tells Harry when to take his pills, and Harry drinks milk, and it takes all these health, concoctions while King drinks whiskey, smokes. And it kind of looks at Harry the way you would look at a non-alcoholic.
Like a waste. What a waste. Everyone is just consistently bruising in this, though, aren't they? And smoking.
Boozing and smoking. I mean, in relation to the bruising, I mean, I should have been born 10 years earlier, really. I mean, this would have been my time, really. Yes, yes.
Back on the boat, Michelle is telling them how she ended up in hospitals, apparently, was a fire. But actually, she's healthy, but still has the memory loss. The guy she's talking to as well, he's drinking scotch and eating a salad roll at the same time. What's wrong with that?
It's not a great combo, is it? Really? Why not? You ever tried to eat a roll while you're drinking scotch?
We're back in a second. All right, here we go. It's an experiment. She puts her munching sound effects in there.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, I'm just didn't hear you eat scotch. It seems perfectly fine to me. All right, I'll take it back. Great combination.
I'll take it back. It's a nice roll, though. Look, look, look. Oh, thank you.
What? What? So, in Bertie, you can't have stats testing her, right? Because he's not sure if she really is this woman that he used to know.
Yeah, yeah, he's a bit cloudy on the subject now, isn't he? Yeah, well, she's supposed to be dead. So he said it's about the time they were out of his boat, and Michelle Manjus Greece, and that place just popped into a headbutt and Bertie tells her they never went to Greece. And then Kaina writes, but he's been listening the whole time.
Yeah. The next day, colder and wild and blue, and Bertie was taken to the bait because this is all a big setup, right? They're trying to lure on Bertie for some reason. And then, and Bertie sends his assistant to doing one to do some odd digging about Michelle.
How about the fire and the way she died? Can I just tell you something? I mean, if this is personal, then maybe we should take it off her. Well, it is personal, Bertie.
You know, I was not completely on board with the plot of this. Right. It lost me a couple of times. OK.
But I was having so much fun with it that it didn't seem to matter. Would you like me to help you with the plot? You are explaining the plot as we're going along. So if I look at you blankly sometimes, I think it was because I was so flabbergasted by the whole thing.
And yes, I use the word flabbergasted, but I kind of lost my way with the plot because I was just seeing everything else and just taking it all in. And I was blown away in a way. So you have to help me with the plot. All right.
I'm kind of getting it. I kind of got it. You know, I think I may have gaps here and there. Right.
All right. We'll try to we'll try to fill in your gap. Thank you very much. Hey, there we go.
King visits Wellden and King says he can help. He knows an excellent doctor to bring Michelle's memory back. But they ask him to leave. He does name the doctor, but he also noticed there is also somebody else behind the door.
And he noticed this by the smell in the room. If you noticed that. Yeah, it's the cigar, isn't it? Yeah, because he looks at the man's hand and he's holding a cigarette.
Yeah. He knows that somebody else. Right. Which I thought was nice.
I think it would have been it would have been nicer if they didn't cut to the cigarette and they just they just showed him sort of glance at it and let you feel in yourself. Maybe. Yeah, but I guess that's you know, just people who would never have got that right, Paul. No, I got that.
I think I did get that. Yes. I'm there with that. Just other thing.
All right. Back in the UK, the exhuming of Michelle Andro's grave. And then we back in the with Harry, we get a conversation about fading to adverts, which they actually do. Yeah, that's great.
I like that. Spectorosa passes information on to Kane. Then that Michelle burned to death in a house fire and her body was unidentifiable. Yeah.
Oh, not identifiable. Yeah. So it might not be Michelle. We don't know.
The grave. And this might be the real Michelle after all. I certainly didn't know. Kane is still suspicious because well, didn't ask more questions about his wife to him.
But I was just further enough, if you if you're a wife of an easy or something you meet someone from the past, you would start asking that person about her. You would think so. Yeah, I think I would. Yeah.
Would you? Probably not. No. It's me.
You know. I do like the argument between King and Harry about the script because he says like the network like the network likes to give the audience a choice. And then it cuts to different TV shows of different channels. And they're all showing a hospital drama.
And he's like, oh, yeah. So I've noticed. Yes. Yeah.
That was good. That was good line. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Gosh, back in the story on Bertot, the man tells him that the body cannot be Michelle. So now he thinks the woman is Michelle. And a bird doesn't want Michelle's memory coming back for some reason.
Oh, so on Bertot is not the good guy either. No, no, none of them are really are they? No, no. He proposes that she has an accident.
Yeah. Of course. Yeah. On Bertot's assistant sneaks into Michelle's room.
And he starts painting, which I was trying to figure out what he was doing. And then he starts to do something to his last fan and tampers with the baffles. Why does he turn on the fan to tamper with the fan? That seems like a dangerous thing to do.
You're not even going to do that. Yeah. You're going to all these other things. Yeah.
Oh, you're going to spur something with the electric? Yeah, you think so. I don't think they're professionals, are they? No.
No, no, because that's a totally different show. I know. You know what? When I said it, I thought shit.
Yeah, so your face. Cardwell and Wilden are on the beach with Michelle, but they decided to go to on Bertot's yacht to further their little plan. And Michelle stays behind. I had to laugh at this beach, so I mean, it's a bit of sand on top of studio floor with a couple of parasols stuck in it.
That's all it was. It's not a nice word to call the two men. And Kane turns out that he's gone to the beach, and he's smoking a pint wearing a yellow swimsuit and an orange scarf wrapped around his neck. I mean, this man's got style.
You've got to say it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
He's smoking a pint. He's just. Are you going to take that up now? I don't know.
Just see pipes much these days, do you? I don't have to sit on a pipe since my granddad, 40 years ago or whatever. Your granddad had a pipe? Was he a pipe smoker?
Yeah, a pipe. And one of my uncles was a pipe smoker. Mm-hm. Just don't see any more, do you?
Nope. You can bring it back. Not really. You don't have to smoke it.
Just have it hanging out your mouth. I'll just have one of those applause bubbles. Yeah, yeah. You could be the bubbly pipe guy.
Is that going to be my big bubbly pipe guy? You've got to have a thing these days, don't you? You do. Yeah.
What you're offering? I want to have a total indifference to life. I've already got that one. No, I'd have a like a Sherlock Holmes bendy pipe that had a balloon that came at the end of it when you pumped it.
Is this an actual thing you've seen? Yeah, you know, the Sherlock Holmes bendy pipe. Oh, I see what you mean. You don't mean that it's bendable.
You meant that it's curved. No, no, no, it's curved. That's so yeah, you'd be better than me. But when I blow into it, a balloon comes down again.
Yeah. And then I assume the balloon deflates and the uggus buckets your mouth from your head gets bigger. Suck it back down, yeah. Yeah, all right.
Yeah. Maybe you should get one of those. Yeah, we could be the pipe guys. Oh, new name.
Yeah. The pipe guys are. So I'm the bubbly pipe guy. Yeah, you're the bubbly pipe guy.
You're the bendy pipe guy. I'm the bendy blue pipe guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right.
We'll put that on a big sign. Collectively the pipe guy. OK. We don't do podcasts about pipes.
I bet there is one. There's got to be. It probably is. Yeah, we don't want to step on the top.
We don't want to pipe mafia coming after us. Do it. No, you don't. It's focused on.
What? So Kate finds Michelle's on baby, like he said. And the conversation she reveals that, yeah, OK, it's all scum. And she knows that when the plan is over, they will kill her.
She does. She does. Yeah. So she tells Kane the real names, and that she'll see him in the afternoon when they're out, right?
And she'll tell them everything that's going on. When what's that? When the guys are out. All right.
I'm not around. Is that what you're calling them, that? I called them the guys. Yeah, yeah.
I'm not sure Michelle does. Sorry, that was so childish. But I had to say it was terrible. I was like, what was it?
I was embarrassed for myself. But I don't get embarrassed about this guy. I figured I'd never do the podcast. That's just true.