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EPISODE · May 19, 2026 · 37 MIN

#154 - Jim Collins, Part 1: What to Make of a Life

from Evolving with Gratitude · host Lainie Rowell

What if you could decode what truly makes you tick?In part one of this two-part conversation, I’m honored to talk with Jim Collins, author of multiple international bestsellers, including Good to Great and What to Make of a Life. Jim rarely does interviews, which makes this conversation especially meaningful.We explore encodings, the deepest intrinsic capacities that shape who we are, what it means to get in frame, and why even doing what we love comes with a cost.As Jim says, What to Make of a Life is “not a self-help book. It’s a self-knowledge book.”Thrive Global Article: Jim Collins on What to Make of a LifeAbout Our Guest:Jim Collins has published multiple international bestsellers that have sold in total more than eleven million copies worldwide, including the perennial favorite Good to Great. His writings and teachings are based on extensive research projects designed to uncover timeless principles of human endeavor and have had a lasting impact across all sectors of society. All of Jim’s books share a common thread: the study of people and how they navigate the big questions of leadership and life. You can learn more at www.jimcollins.com. About Lainie:Lainie Rowell is a bestselling author, award-winning educator, and TEDx speaker. She is dedicated to human flourishing, focusing on community building, emotional intelligence, and honoring what makes each of us unique and dynamic through learner-driven design. She earned her degree in psychology and went on to earn both a post-graduate credential and a master's degree in education. An international keynote speaker, Lainie has presented in 41 states as well as in dozens of countries across 4 continents. As a consultant, Lainie’s client list ranges from Fortune 100 companies like Apple and Google to school districts and independent schools. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠linktr.ee/lainierowell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Website - ⁠LainieRowell.com⁠Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@LainieRowell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn - @LainieRowellX/Twitter - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@LainieRowell ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Evolving with Gratitude, the book is available ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ And now, Bold Gratitude: The Journal Designed for You and by You is available too!Both Evolving with Gratitude & Bold Gratitude have generous bulk pricing for purchasing 10+ copies delivered to the same location.🙌📚➡️ ⁠bit.ly/ewgbulkdiscount⁠📚➡️ ⁠bit.ly/bgbulkdiscount⁠Just fill out the forms linked above and someone will get back to you ASAP! 

What if you could decode what truly makes you tick?In part one of this two-part conversation, I’m honored to talk with Jim Collins, author of multiple international bestsellers, including Good to Great and What to Make of a Life. Jim rarely does interviews, which makes this conversation especially meaningful.We explore encodings, the deepest intrinsic capacities that shape who we are, what it means to get in frame, and why even doing what we love comes with a cost.As Jim says, What to Make of a Life is “not a self-help book. It’s a self-knowledge book.”Thrive Global Article: Jim Collins on What to Make of a LifeAbout Our Guest:Jim Collins has published multiple international bestsellers that have sold in total more than eleven million copies worldwide, including the perennial favorite Good to Great. His writings and teachings are based on extensive research projects designed to uncover timeless principles of human endeavor and have had a lasting impact across all sectors of society. All of Jim’s books share a common thread: the study of people and how they navigate the big questions of leadership and life. You can learn more at www.jimcollins.com. About Lainie:Lainie Rowell is a bestselling author, award-winning educator, and TEDx speaker. She is dedicated to human flourishing, focusing on community building, emotional intelligence, and honoring what makes each of us unique and dynamic through learner-driven design. She earned her degree in psychology and went on to earn both a post-graduate credential and a master's degree in education. An international keynote speaker, Lainie has presented in 41 states as well as in dozens of countries across 4 continents. As a consultant, Lainie’s client list ranges from Fortune 100 companies like Apple and Google to school districts and independent schools. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠linktr.ee/lainierowell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Website - ⁠LainieRowell.com⁠Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@LainieRowell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn - @LainieRowellX/Twitter - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@LainieRowell ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Evolving with Gratitude, the book is available ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ And now, Bold Gratitude: The Journal Designed for You and by You is available too!Both Evolving with Gratitude & Bold Gratitude have generous bulk pricing for purchasing 10+ copies delivered to the same location.🙌📚➡️ ⁠bit.ly/ewgbulkdiscount⁠📚➡️ ⁠bit.ly/bgbulkdiscount⁠Just fill out the forms linked above and someone will get back to you ASAP!

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