EPISODE · Jun 2, 2026 · 34 MIN
#155 - Jim Collins, Part 2: What to Make of a Life
from Evolving with Gratitude · host Lainie Rowell
What do we do when life gets foggy?In part two of this conversation with Jim Collins, we pick up right where we left off and explore the bug book, simplex stepping, luck versus return on luck, and why not all time in life is equal.We also talk about retirement as a cliff, the power of Who Luck, and what Jim would add to Good to Great after writing What to Make of a Life.If you haven’t listened to part one, I recommend starting there, but you are also welcome to jump in right here.As Jim says, What to Make of a Life is “not a self-help book. It’s a self-knowledge book.”Thrive Global Article: Jim Collins on What to Make of a LifeAbout Our Guest:Jim Collins has published multiple international bestsellers that have sold in total more than eleven million copies worldwide, including the perennial favorite Good to Great. His writings and teachings are based on extensive research projects designed to uncover timeless principles of human endeavor and have had a lasting impact across all sectors of society. All of Jim’s books share a common thread: the study of people and how they navigate the big questions of leadership and life. You can learn more at www.jimcollins.com. About Lainie:Lainie Rowell is a bestselling author, award-winning educator, and TEDx speaker. She is dedicated to human flourishing, focusing on community building, emotional intelligence, and honoring what makes each of us unique and dynamic through learner-driven design. She earned her degree in psychology and went on to earn both a post-graduate credential and a master's degree in education. An international keynote speaker, Lainie has presented in 41 states as well as in dozens of countries across 4 continents. As a consultant, Lainie’s client list ranges from Fortune 100 companies like Apple and Google to school districts and independent schools. Learn more at linktr.ee/lainierowell.Website - LainieRowell.comInstagram - @LainieRowellLinkedIn - @LainieRowellX/Twitter - @LainieRowell Evolving with Gratitude, the book is available here! And now, Bold Gratitude: The Journal Designed for You and by You is available too!Both Evolving with Gratitude & Bold Gratitude have generous bulk pricing for purchasing 10+ copies delivered to the same location.🙌📚➡️ bit.ly/ewgbulkdiscount📚➡️ bit.ly/bgbulkdiscountJust fill out the forms linked above and someone will get back to you ASAP!
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What do we do when life gets foggy?In part two of this conversation with Jim Collins, we pick up right where we left off and explore the bug book, simplex stepping, luck versus return on luck, and why not all time in life is equal.We also talk about retirement as a cliff, the power of Who Luck, and what Jim would add to Good to Great after writing What to Make of a Life.If you haven’t listened to part one, I recommend starting there, but you are also welcome to jump in right here.As Jim says, What to Make of a Life is “not a self-help book. It’s a self-knowledge book.”Thrive Global Article: Jim Collins on What to Make of a LifeAbout Our Guest:Jim Collins has published multiple international bestsellers that have sold in total more than eleven million copies worldwide, including the perennial favorite Good to Great. His writings and teachings are based on extensive research projects designed to uncover timeless principles of human endeavor and have had a lasting impact across all sectors of society. All of Jim’s books share a common thread: the study of people and how they navigate the big questions of leadership and life. You can learn more at www.jimcollins.com. About Lainie:Lainie Rowell is a bestselling author, award-winning educator, and TEDx speaker. She is dedicated to human flourishing, focusing on community building, emotional intelligence, and honoring what makes each of us unique and dynamic through learner-driven design. She earned her degree in psychology and went on to earn both a post-graduate credential and a master's degree in education. An international keynote speaker, Lainie has presented in 41 states as well as in dozens of countries across 4 continents. As a consultant, Lainie’s client list ranges from Fortune 100 companies like Apple and Google to school districts and independent schools. Learn more at linktr.ee/lainierowell.Website - LainieRowell.comInstagram - @LainieRowellLinkedIn - @LainieRowellX/Twitter - @LainieRowell Evolving with Gratitude, the book is available here! And now, Bold Gratitude: The Journal Designed for You and by You is available too!Both Evolving with Gratitude & Bold Gratitude have generous bulk pricing for purchasing 10+ copies delivered to the same location.🙌📚➡️ bit.ly/ewgbulkdiscount📚➡️ bit.ly/bgbulkdiscountJust fill out the forms linked above and someone will get back to you ASAP!
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