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May 31, 2016 1 hr 12 min

156 Orphan Clap

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You have the opening you have the floor sir. Oh, thank you. Welcome to a pleasure the clap the podcast. It says Green Arrow you have failed this series They were jumping right into arrow on that one.

Yeah, DC TV on that. We'll start with arrow. Um, honestly, I have Only two notes about it. I would say it's I like that.

It's a restart. I like they're doing the new 52 Not rebirth, but new 52 that he got became a mayor I like that all of his allies have pretty much abandoned him for positive reasons But basically he's just green arrow now So I do like kind of the restart button on that but it was very jarring it was It was the whole season the whole fourth season was kind of shaky ground it was I started off with a whole dark thing and then it suddenly went into legends We have to get legends kick off so let's spend a bunch of time and then let's go back to back to dark And then you know the way they chopped it up It wasn't as bad as legends of tomorrow the way they chopped it up and kept dragging it on but they caught him once Then he got away prison break little dies remember gets out. You've got back And you know his power comes back You got me then Oliver Oliver figure out how to beat his magic, but then gets too strong. He doesn't figure out he remembers Which I've like I thought this was a very weak island season Or whatever it was green arrow magic island.

Yeah, I mean they could have made a lot shorter. Oh, yeah I do like that looks like we go in a brush up Yeah, flashbacks Because this is next year is the lack quote-quote last year of the island. It should be depending on how they you know frame it It should be They can always say well, we haven't shown you full years exactly so there's that I didn't like The last big fight scene was probably the worst choreographed arrow fight scene. I've ever seen yeah Yeah, like it was bad there.

They're both trained martial artists. They just start slugging each other in the face The only I really did like about it was that he killed dark in the same way dark killed Laurel. I liked the poetic symmetry of that yeah, but Other than that like yeah, this season's been because it's like they have the markovian Yeah, I love the not but like they have the earthquake machine and then they have the lego the sat and it's like how do you get bigger than that? Nukes.

Yeah, how many nukes all the nukes and magic like I think they should have I know they breached it with with the whole Lazarus pit a little bit last season. Mm-hmm, but they should not have started the whole magic thing It's just it was by the time it was done. It was silly. Yeah, and the whole idea like except for constant Yeah, did you think the tattoos would come back like all the queens like magic tattoos would come back?

That's what I thought I didn't think it was gonna be like the hope of the city powering his opposite dark power I was like Constantine new let's get more content. Right, but now what they could have it probably a lot better No, the woman fuzzies. Yeah, this city hopes behind you and and has faith in you the woman fuzzies Apparently not the ones that agree though on this because there is a subreddit on arrow that he changed it some to dare double To the daredevil series. I read that I read that which I thought was fucking hilarious I like I like the like I like the thought of the restart and getting him back like a lone hero or he's got philosophy I guess which ought to be interesting having them be one-on-one, but Yeah, this season was really rough.

Yeah, the second half of it. I'll be fair. I'll miss seeing the in her I'll come back. Oh, I'm sure she will but yeah, so we'll ding Well Holland needs to come back soon.

I Wouldn't mind them. Maybe they'll explore more of the kid thing with Oliver. Maybe next season Maybe I know that the Stephen and Mel tweets about going back to basics Which we liked on our from black. I mean, I don't want to get off anything But yeah, I mean going back to kind of the root of the idea like it could be good for the season or the series rather It could be they needed something because it was it was a rough season But along the same lines of DC TV supergirl joined.

Yeah, we talked about that Yeah, okay, I have a follow up on it later on. Okay, um, we want to jump If they don't do it as bright and heavy-handed I wouldn't say famous to John Douglas that that feminist writing where it's like I've always talked about the pilot We're like power exactly like if they make it more organic that yeah, she's in this world Which I want to have a house he gets there in a moment, but um Which will leave us in the flash But if they can make her more not grim and gritty, but I mean well, I could if she could be the John Favreau Iron Man in Joss Whedon's Avengers like you know what I mean? Like he's a bright shiny here literally bright shiny hero Yeah, but I mean to have him be in that kind of mire that you see Iron Man in in Avengers I think would be a really good what especially Jeff Johns who what's talk about that the big news that Jeff Johns is God damn it. He's quitting comic writing which sucks for now to work on DC TV and DC film being a chief creative officer Which I can imagine anyone better at the job really He holds passion for the source material the new material and he worked under a rich he worked under Richard Donner I mean, he's got street cred as well.

I mean so I Think we've talked about I've always had faith in Jeff Johns. Yeah No matter who is working with he will keep them grounded. I'm working in DC TV Unless your name is Zack Snyder unless you well he's not working with Zack Snyder's he is huh? I think I was teasing about the murder verse the movie the bat member Superman people started calling the DC universe the murder Verse because of Zack Snyder's vision where Superman and Batman just kill people So the people trying to kill people the DC murder verse put some cap in America so true Well, we can go somewhere with that in a minute.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. That's a that's a different part I think moving her over is good. I think I'm looking forward like the giant four-part crossover though End up doing a nettle blink with legends arrow flash and supergirl Especially if that's gonna be a flashpoint story Because so let's just jump to flash before we get there because that's gonna be my ending conversation on that one So with flash a I want to say I love the like bullet time moments in the high-speed fight scenes I haven't brought that up before but like this one was zoom was Phenomenal is like going up things and using physics to his advantage.

I really liked that I like that. I like that they get the money to do that Well, they believe whatever was left of the budget they spent it on oh, yeah, the zoom wallie I'm sorry because he's my flash a zoomberry fight Hashtag of my flash hashtag flashlights matter Too I know they addressed it like the first time I heard it the homicidal maniac once a race The first time I heard I went Okay, now you're okay now you're just making it about running which again with the flash, but it was kind of cool here in zoom So right Barry wrong that it was such a weird Or his mom or absolutely which I was mowing the second Yeah, like it was so initially weird and then they go well He's a homicidal maniac and he has an obsession with being the fastest white when you want race and I'm going Okay, that's typewriter hands, but okay. I Called them at the mask Oh, you were here for it. Oh, well, I said we had said his dad at some point Which is kind of true kind of not so if I called his dad the best I don't remember I'll say I got a 50% right okay, you didn't know that it was the J.

Garrick of that world well No, I figured it was his dad because of when his dad said something about Garrick in the cabin in the cabin like I think two or three episodes of yeah, and that's what I went fucker than a mask is is that world and then they talk about like that hunter Solomon like had masqueraded as J. Garrick. So you have kind of a double red herring on that one Um, it got really confusing with not only ultimate earths, but like time travel and time Remnants. Oh god fucking time remnants.

I was so confused of time remnants. I'll be perfectly honest I'm not so just gonna kill him Which was kind of cool seeing Barry learn from zoom and use his own trick against him Absolutely and go like what's that time? I'm doing he's reversing the whatever it was The science thing Or whatever of the mags fear that would destroy the yeah I do like seeing Cisco kind of come more into his power. Yeah, especially with the it's kind of happening the moral gravity on that one I don't know.

It seems like it's happening just randomly like I mean I get that he know that he saw He plastic and erring and with the thing and he couldn't do again as I think he should have been able to but like some of the stuff He's just suddenly he could suddenly open portals. Yeah, I think part of that was seeing what was his earth to was a reverb I think when reverb says like you have no idea what you can do and did a few things and it put it into Cisco's mind I don't think so so it's gonna be a bad guy. We still haven't seen Jesse and Wally's powers, which by the way speedsters Which I think we'll play into the next season Honestly thought they end part of the season with like the mettium and watch going off around them Great I told you what I thought they're gonna do a flash maybe I should write for you Jesse and Wally get triggered and become speed search and a three that would fight and beat would fight flash Or I'm sorry soon. Yeah, that's honestly where I thought was going as well.

We saw zoom get turned into black flash Mmm. No, we got eaten by the time racer the dementors are Black flash Like his earpieces and the logo on his chest changed to black flash So I'm going he went back as black flash. Well the black flash only shows up on a speed sir. Excuse me a speedster dies Because they're so fast again.

I run deaf right? Let's let's start with like because the end of that show is flash point the end of the season was the flash point paradox where The comics where Barry goes back saves his mother And which lasted for In five minutes of comic time I'm interested to see what that means for arrow legends especially To some extent especially legends because they're gonna be like time drawers a ripple all of a sudden and free I guess I'm on If that what's that Yeah, I mean I had that if that is what gets super girl to this universe You know I mean because they did they did do the flash super girl crossover on CBS versus CW Right, so I'm wondering if flash point if the flash point paradox brings her in and what does that mean for the other shows for the Four crossover like is that what they're gonna have to fight eventually with whatever it is right? Whether it's perdegaton or so so they're not thinking or at least right now They've said that they don't think the flash season ending will affect arrow Okay, that's what I mean that's been said so far could that change absolutely? I don't think it will affect the series like overall.

I think it will affect the crossover Oh, yeah, I think that's the crossword Yeah, but I don't think it's gonna be like oh, it's on theus back because Because of time punch you know what I mean like this this avoid time punch right? I don't think it'll be that I don't think it'll be as easy as that but this be a way for The TV universe to actually be able to use characters like Batman and the Joker because in flashpoint Batman was Versus father and Joker was his mother. Yeah, so they're not the normal movie version characters I know is in love so could they actually do flashpoint properly with those characters? If it was me I'd be fighting hand in fist try if I was Jeff Johns absolutely try so hard to get them to go Hey, can we at least get like these worlds on this one right?

I think I think it'd be amazing I think that's where you could finally see Greenland on the screen if they're gonna do flashpoint. I hope to do it right Like is I guess I guess I'd love it's Jeff Johnson. You know he's going to do it It's just a few stories and he's gonna be allowed to do it There's one of those few crossover stories in DC that I actually like because there's very few comics ever really read from DC Outside of flash and green arrow an occasional Batman storyline like nightfall or nightfall But how's that flash and arrow? I didn't really read a lot of DC books I just didn't have a lot of interest because Superman bought the shit out of me love Batman But there were so many damn Batman books that I just they were like 19 of them.

I mean it was like It was like X-men back in the 90s Which was like printing money at middle But they also destroyed their brand and ended up paying paying for it in the end. Yeah, but that Jim Billy Chris Clareman I'm like something like what like 19 million Yeah, which is like a number now now they break like 35 Yeah, it's a hit Especially with what to do with Batman that was amazing and I hope they do it right so we'll see and a few months hopefully what like five Yeah, like about six months. Yeah But yeah, I'm seeing him go back in time save his mother have his previous version like disappeared Yeah, well like waving a happy like train town like mr. Rogers.

Goodbye, which I thought was a little weird Yeah, yeah, but I mean like just like the him waving like waving offers like see ya I thought was a little I mean this is how they trigger while he's feet and just as yeah Like they could go in a lot of directions that we're not thinking of well And if you've read if you've read the flashpoint paradox, you know how important both I wouldn't say yeah, I would say zoom and Hunter Solomon let me phrase this hunter Solomon and eoboard thon are important to that at the very end If you've read it, you know that at one point, I think zoom rides up on the cosmic treadmill With eobard thon and I think was it jig garrick tied to it. I think so. Yeah, um if I recall right So you're gonna see a lot of like kind of cross-generational stuff, which you see that in we talked about last week With legends that they're getting into the jsa Um, you have that with uh, rick tiller our man, um, which was not my nickname in high school. We talked about that Um, it was not and uh, you do see that john wasley ship the original flash.

Yeah, um being the jig garrick of earth to Yeah, the actual flash um over three No, earth to no he said earth three. No, he said earth. He said earth three You know you are welcome to go back and watch it. I might actually fight you on this one.

You can he said I'm the jig garrick of earth three Was there another earth? Yes. Why do they have somebody else? I can't keep track of all 52 multiverse man, um So yeah, I will get back and watch it before recording and if so then you can make correction on me next week Yeah, I might actually I am 99 percent sure he said I am the jig garrick earth Well, no because they said the hunter of salomon is a zoom.

Yeah was masquerading as jig garrick the flash of that earth Which was of earth two Yeah, I can swear he said in the last episode that he was from earth three where we watch it and we'll see what happens Um, anyway Moving on to which you brought up legends. It's going. Yep. You brought up legends.

So Let uh, that's chit show is over It pulled a constant team. I honestly do believe that like it sucked for the most part and then kind of came back on the last couple episodes Yeah, but I don't know I watched it weekly instead of binging it. I actually would have preferred that I'm sorry. I didn't get you off No, I just I was watching it if I interrupt it.

No, right? Effort I think I watched it weekly and They got old with the backing forward like oh we captured savage. Oh, we delivered. Oh, wait.

Oh, we almost got him Almost got him. Oh, wait. Now we killed him for real. No, it didn't Yeah, I just you know, I got old um it just felt like the writers ran out of shit to do Because like halfway through the season is when they were like, oh, we're not gonna go time jumping anymore and try to get him in the past We're gonna go straight to the street of the future and get him there Also, we're gonna hang out in the 60s with uh adam and hocker old right put that subplot in and then not do anything with it Not really other than make adam all whining again He did he did turn in he got he did turn into a separate me Peter Parker I'm surprised didn't have him listening to like the cure all the time Like if they could have had sitting as honestly if he looked if he looked at ocker on what it doesn't rain all the time Like I would have been like yeah, no, he could have started dressing nailed it slash failed Nail failed.

Can we call that? Is that a thing now? Sure nail failed or fail nailed? Yeah, um They could they could have started just like the cure or you know dressed like the crow and Having you know cure posters on the wall and do because friday I'm in love and Oh, yeah, I mean, you know, what has he got really fucking whining and then the end of it's like oh no go on I love you.

Bye. It's fine. Like I understand we're a curse love. Yeah, which I'm pretty sure is a morrisian song That I listen to all the time.

Don't blame me blame morrisian. Um, you should always blame morrisian by the way Um, Mr. Ship is more to us a cock horse. Yes, he does Cheers if you don't know the world like pinchers than you're missing out Um, that song was my that song was my introduction to the world like pinchers when I first moved to Denver Oh, I played hockey.

I played through hockey with him. Well, morris you guys a cock horse. Um Yeah, I'm kind of glad they got rid of a girl and hockey. I at least for now I'm sure they can come back just like snarking him back on the fuck they want They said that he's still part of the garlandy verse He'll pop up.

He's not a regular character because it's a work on prison break, but he'll come here Which is weird because I didn't pull uh he wave off of that either right which I'm kind of glad I actually started liking heatwave without snark Yeah, like snark. Honestly, I didn't see the chronos the connoist Snark was too overacting Well, it's up to dad. I'm like, well, I said to don't know I was like, did he talk like that on prison break? She goes no Like so he has like that weird pretentious Yeah, it was kind of like like super pretentious and all the time Although it was cute watching get to kiss one carrying Are you mad that like shooting go back to arrow to become the new black and every a little bit?

I didn't think they were gonna do it. I figured she was staying on fucking legends I wish they would move her back to arrow because I would love to see her on her Especially after the whole thing was like your sister's dead. Yeah, I can't bring you back to when I think you up. Why not?

They didn't really explain that either. I know well, I'm not just kind of like I just can't now Um Time travel to the anything fix point time whatever They just wibbly wobbly time stuff should making should up in not in a good way. Um, yeah legends was We're bad at that one or go to that one depending on how you want look at it. Yeah You made the fires worse or better Um depending on your opponent or not.

Oh, I'm gonna admit or some quote, but yeah, um, so Let's switch off a dctv for a minute. Are you? I'm sorry. I'm a dctv.

I'm I'm over the no more notes Okay, so for the summer We'll see it all when it comes back. Hopefully arrow gets fixed with us going back to basics thing and I hope they do flashpoint really really Well, because I don't know what the I have to do flashpoint. I wouldn't say By the books or by the book on that one can't because I like the idea like that they can go to like one of brothers and go Let us have like the else worlds. Yeah, like can we play with those?

Oh, I don't know if you watch it now before he switch off Did you watch that? No, okay, the last episode of Gotham. I actually watched I actually did watch the one where um I call him chess from the Cape because I'm old and a nerd um But he was uh if you watch our from black he's uh the guy that runs um With over top or overwatch or whatever Um, I don't know how far you're in so I can't ever ask. It's okay.

Um, but you know what I'm talking about yes Um he was was it Tigris's brother and Gotham? Yeah, but that he became like uh as real That was the last episode I was like I was like I'm in for asriel which is how they like Similarly to rectified his mental whatever with being brought back in the bed. Well, so that's what it looked like And then I go check less yes, uh Well, like is the interim police chief So the last two I love it on that one the last two seasons. I was just a season actually decent Um except for fish movies magic except for fish money coming back because she's still alive and she'll be the next season She's magic.

Mm-hmm They did blow up asriel with abazooka or something like a blue up asriel Um, you can't put out the fire. They changed cats hairstyle. She doesn't have the curly hair anymore It's just straight blonde and like looks really okay. So the Brubaker.

Okay, she looks cute. Um, which she's like Yeah, yeah, she's stupidly young. It's yeah. It's creepy.

So let's talk about it. Okay. She looks yeah, we'll wait another four years or so 40 years four different guys at four. Oh, let her at 18.

I'll get to like a Betty White level and then get that I died. Uh, anyway, so what a fucker corpse. What okay? Um, which is dead.

Yes, right? Cause else it looks okay. Anyways moving on Uh, so Gotham got them ended with strange being Under the direction of the court of owls. Mm-hmm And the reason he was bringing people back from the dead was because that was his directive from them But he's trying to bring them back to their with their memories and fish when he was the first one that he would do that with so she's a talent I don't know that but all right.

Well, yeah, so But I'm not running it. Yeah, right. I mean Jeff Jones. Let me write for you.

What's going on right now is that a whole bus full of People they had brought back and they were going to the court of owls or going to some offsite facility because they're gonna blow up arkum um And the bus flipped over because penguin and uh Rock or whatever whatever whatever. Yeah, we'll call him Rocco Um like show over time on the street. I don't remember why they wanted to kill strange. So they like like Rocco's got a minigun Um because of what uh strange dead dude penguin in arkum.

Yeah, I've never seen an episode in the second season. Yeah, I know all of this right Um so they they shoot the bus up and it goes crashing and all these bad guys come out That's what the season one of them one of them one of them who looks like Bruce Wayne. So Tommy oh what the fuck is his name? No, it's uh Um god i'm old on that one No, it wasn't it wasn't Tommy.

What was his name? It's okay. It doesn't matter. It's hush in the comics.

It's Tommy Something or other. Um, he's the opposite Bruce Wayne. Yeah, he's bizarro Bruce Wayne. He's a Winzero I know he's not man-banic kidding.

Um, I don't know it's but yeah, he's it's interesting enough still That I'll start watching when it starts up. I still won't I'm curious about it. I don't care enough Like it's still the last show I watched during a week of shows Uh because I watch everything who I don't want to do so when I'm going through all that shit catching up. It's the last show I watch Um Archer's still going strong.

Yay. I have the new episode where apparently they try to rate their sexiness. Yes I haven't seen that but I'm pretty sure weirdly Krigger wins based on the last episode. Well he hypnotizes them.

Oh, I've seen that one. Yeah, but he doesn't actually hypnotize all of him He has a Closet of robots. Yeah Yeah, he's when he turned light off their eyes glow red So you haven't seen the new episode Is that it? Yeah, that's not what I'm saying Um, I also watch the American still and it's still good.

It's very good. Yeah, the American Especially now that Martha's off the M show. Um, that show is that the bitch you wanted to die? Yeah, she's not dead.

She's not dead. They ship her off Russia Yay, she's not on the show Do a log who cares? No, she was she'll be celebrated as a spy and be true to the queen Um as much as a person who can't contact her family can't go home has no friends doesn't be language and their food sucks. Um, can be truly queen In another country.

Actually, really bring that up. Oh god. Oh, I bet that shows got renewed for two more seasons Great. I need to be the last one.

I do like a lot. Um, it's very well done and it's funny because it gets it gets a very good Recognition, but it never wins awards. Not really. Um, it's critically claimed but no awards.

Um, or from black like what did she get like? I'm not a different. I mean like last year. Yeah, last year.

You're like hi. She plays like Seven gajillion and the scorpion at one time. She's four people at once. She might be that iPhone.

I don't even know anymore Um, but I think it really got renewed for two more seasons and these will be the rap season. They're gonna end it. They're gonna end it. That's the clairains and then The name of the name of the city Yes, yeah, I can't run him right now.

That's um, huh? Carry Russell. Yes, uh, and whatever. Don't cut your hair.

Everyone will freak out Um, so that's just gonna be strong. Next on my list was comic books because there's not a fair amount of shit that happens. We can comic books Let's do this. Let's start with.

Let's start with the easy one that we don't talk very long about first superman died Again, well this time. This time for real. This time for real. A superman died.

Not the The new 52 superman died to bring about the rebirth of superman from pre flashpoint. Yes married in the black suit with a kid Oh, yes, and apparently they're gonna have a bunch of superman because so when his body when he died his body like exploded energy I'm sure this energy's gonna go into different people. No, no, that's the the nation of krypton or whatever that was It's going all the way back to when jeff johns was writing um, I built adventure comics with Richard donner Yeah, the nation of krypton or whatever when they re-established a new krypton. Yeah There's a reason I don't read comics anymore.

Yeah, it's never original ideas like chew or rereading preacher Or anything like that where I'm like You're just kind of recycling, but okay, so there's more kryptonians General sod and uh, yeah, they'll be marked tonight. Um, let's do a thing with it. Yep. Policy body armor There's that um why Lois Lane should have that Superman's death I have no idea because she was when I like knocked on him to learn who he was and all that shit in the story like before he died Um, but now the other superman with the other Lois Lane and their kid is in the universe who's adopted because he's like Is he nothing?

I like the actual kid. No, uh, no, it's adopted from the negative zone If you imagine like superman Lois Lane is like Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie Then the negative zone is like Africa west Africa. Yeah, and they're like let's adopt a weird baby Um now the only difference is When Brad Pitts friends smoke some pot that baby will not like that spliff with heat vision but superman and Lois Lane's well No, that's a good joke. Fuck you.

That's a good joke That's a good joke. All right. Anyway Well, let's get let's talk about Captain America. So the very first episode very first issue episode issue.

I'm a hydrone of captain america number one Which is seabroger's a young man with this America colon America calling seabroger. Yeah, thank you Pudgy cat america's falcon or whatever Which yeah current? Which we so he shows up he's got his little shield like he had back in war two which is more like a nice shield than the a then the Asial um And he had a much as little venture friends or like or captain america friends are running off to stop hydra And then he throws one of them out the helicopter or plane or I thought I was not a plane. Okay.

Um and says Because apparently his mother was brought into hydra and so he's been a 75 year deep cover operative. I guess like i'm really curious how they're gonna play this Well, did you read that marvels launching another title with quote unquote the real sea brothers? Oh, no So this is not they've already gone like the internet's mad. There's another title happening calm down Which honestly Don't want to be like too off mic about this.

Okay. Um, I honestly like the idea of Steve Rogers the hydra agent now. Yes. I know cop freaks.

Don't wig out. Um Here's the thing When they said we're bringing back bucky we all went It's like one of the greatest Story ones ever by uh ed rebaker and seabepting. Um, yes, I'll bring that up. Um was the premise for the uh second and third Technically third kept american movie, but I mean winter soldier.

I mean I've got friends who go like no bucky died I'm like no, he didn't and it's awesome like fucking read it. Fuck you and here's my bucky hero clip. I'm going to soldier. He'll click um For a million points.

I Don't know I'm making sure that I don't play her a new art. Um she played it's really fun. I talked about it I'll bring the army over some time. We should teach a gabby.

That'd be a really good one was math and strategic thinking level thinking uh some of the story but um to see cat america suddenly be a hydrant agent. Yeah, I think Jaring it's jarring, but they've talked about how a recommender. Um who you know from a nerd poker. Yeah, um, he's been apparently setting it up I haven't been reading um but he apparently is like set up for like the last like six months three months whatever it is Yeah, he's been working on it for a while apparently like slowly introducing it.

I want to see where it goes. I'm curious I don't think that marvels should need jerk reaction and go He's a clone. It's okay. Yeah, or he's a scroll or it's uh the access inversion or whatever the fuck is going on Like I think they should just like run with it and go look you've trusted us We've provided you good storylines in terms of winter soldier and so forth and so on Follow us and let's see where that goes.

Um and I'm fully in that camp where I go, you know what? You want to bring bookie back? Let's see where it goes. Uh, it goes awesome It goes into one of my favorite characters of all time as I'm a huge fan of assassin characters Um winter soldier being one of them And then you have the whole thing where he becomes he becomes captain american says like he goes I don't have the super soldier serum, but with this robotic Like our like communist arm like I could not like throw in the shield this way.

It's like Oh, well, I never really thought of it that way like yes Like he's blah blah blah and then he fights skady and which sounds gonna steady. Yeah, that's another story Um, she is kind of weirdly psychologically, but And you have skates means you have multiple hammers So disrupting the yeah, thank you just interrupt me Something else was going out cat America was on twitter Um the gay thing. Yeah, so on twitter there was a Hashtag used to convince Disney that Elsa needed a girlfriend in frozen 2 Which apparently doesn't agree to I haven't really kept up on that a whole lot Um, I just reading articles about the whole cat the america hashtag me there ranking agent 13 I don't know um so because that apparently went so well then came the hashtag gift cat boyfriend or some shit like that and And right after that started is when this episode this issue came out and said a little hydra and I'm like well He's definitely not gonna be gay now. It's gonna be gay when you descend from the Nazis.

Um, I don't know many heads so to speak Oh, you didn't get that joke earlier? But um everyone knows that captain your boyfriend because he already has one and it's fucking barts so Okay, I'm not gonna get the old there's a bromance thing there and there was a bromance But I wouldn't call the gang that's about as close as you're gonna get to captain raby america being gay unless they turn falcon gay Which is possible? I guess um, oh, we can be there adopted baby or or you know red wing cadain turn into something else A little bit baby a little Robin I don't like where this is going at all. This is getting the short pants.

This is getting into hashtag make cat the rig up at a file Hashtag young america hashtag there's your fucking hashtag namblah hashtag namblah loves cap hashtag land land land land land Nambler america. Oh, yeah, there's your i know a little while ago there, but I got there Captain man bless Shield Is the picture it's a bunch of candy Man Yeah Marvel toys one point. They were the cat america motorcycle. Uh-huh Then so he could get it he could get a window as man.

Mm-hmm. All right. We need to stop it. What do you have?

He'd be uh, he'd be driving up The rocket pop really uh, yeah, no, I know I'm gonna make it worse. I can hear his the ice cream man bells going Hey kids you like hydra and dick. Um, yeah, I meant worse. I'm a bit on Speaking of hydra.

Goddamn it. She worked as a segue I watched the shields finale agents of shield season dad. I don't know. What are they only I think it's four.

Uh, you didn't have the secret warriors. I like that a lot. Um, so who died? Do you want to do spoilers and say who died because some people are gonna die and I haven't watched it yet But I don't care if you spoil it.

Great. Um, yo-yo was uh injured. Okay, um, saving mac basically at the very beginning of the season Daisy comes across a yeah quake or whatever Daisy comes across a human who upon touch He gives them a vision of the future specifically death a close death and there's a cross flowing in space with blood and a shield logo basically um And finally the last like four episodes that cross finally gets introduced from yo-yo, huh? Yo-yo.

Yeah, I hadn't watched it, but uh, watch it that closely, but Yo gives them mac mac gives it a daisy. Daisy gives it some Lincoln. Okay, let's basically hop and take out Lincoln die. I'm gonna spoil it Lincoln died.

Thank god. Yeah, he was kind of useless. He was really funny. He was turning in the atom the enemy mob and was in the cure and the pesh mode and go to goth clubs and Dance like he lost a contact lens or screwing in a light bulb.

Anyway after losing contact lens. Um, But my issue was it was an extremely religious uh finale with with the cross uh one literally passing across from person to person. Um, I'm seeing the the the the the very of the cross so to speak of the sins to like, you know, like mac had to come back from facing Daisy yo-yo had to well, no, you didn't have to do anything. She had to come back from being what she felt like being trained.

One to bang Mac, but yeah, but when they had she felt betrayed at one point. Yes, she Uh with yeah, um The daisy who obviously was literally a judas at one point. Um, And then it finally ends up in Lincoln's hands, which he stole so I'm like, that's a little 30 pieces of silver vibe. Um, He dies taking hive up to which I'm glad you finally see hives true face, which was very complicated.

I like that. Um, He takes him out to space to blow up. Um, he's the only one that can like short out the literal systems to allow them to do it. Okay.

Um, the pain Look on your face. Well, you try to um, it's depressing on is depressing on is very much I watched the finale. Okay, like it's all Involved in that one. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, you are right to have stifle the yawn while I talk about this.

Um, It's I'll bet you I can beat you Probably probably I'm gonna do a quick. I love I much not that I'm not by much today because I've been up since uh, six You had to sleep in for two hours. Yeah, no, I like I said, I know you wake up. You've told me like I know you beat me but not by much But yeah, the whole like dying for redemption and dying for like sins and dying Look for one thing of redemption.

I mean, it's like we have to do this like to do that and it's like To save us to save the inhumans to save shield to save actual humans because if they don't then they're gonna explode and become hounds In calm hounds, um, which I wish I would have been great, but I think fox owns the Onhounds with Um, they called primitives, I think Um, but they look like weird in human arts faces They did like they had yeah Yeah, they had butthole faces. Okay, um I liked the finale but one thing like I'm sorry shield, but every time you have a season finale I go Like you did it right No, you left us wanting walk away. Don't do another season And when I say that I do regret when Um, I say that when you have the crossovers with Captain America 2 or uh, yeah, 2 3 Right, um, 4 2. I mean, I like the crossovers.

I like uh, Jamie Alexander coming in. I wish it could be more naked like she wasn't the tattoo show, but yeah, that's all another story Um, then evolves. Yeah, um, she's not a lesbian when I'm in the shower. Um Now I know what you're talking about That's not a secret Um, she don't listen to I don't know what I was gonna say Uh, shootin the cat.

Oh, no, I don't Uh, so no, so that's that and um, we'll talk about X-Men Apocalypse next week Yeah, and uh, you and I love kind of evened out on um or from black because I need you to get to like the next two episodes because Yeah I was behind when uh Emma from uh D20 proof Came to me last week and she goes, are you not caught up? And I'm like, no, why? And she goes, oh no Yeah, she goes like and then I watched the episode she was talking about and I was like Yeah, I'm I need you to catch up because there's some shit. Okay Let's stop like game if you've seen game with friends all this season Um apparently some guy lost his dick and um Oh, and there's like a three-eyed Raven and John Snow's not dead because like the King of the Winter or something.

Yeah, I don't know Um and Dragons hamperin. There was a what? Can dragons burn them? No Oh, no, they haven't tried that yet.

Um, oops I didn't read the books. I swear to god. I got like the third book in I was on storm of swords So they're passed the books now. They're not there's no books left.

Well, apparently yeah, one of the huge like um twist was came from Um, they're still coming from Martin like a big twist. They're coming from Martin, but they haven't There's no books to you know give them a basis. Um Last last week in the idea you want spoilers or no? I don't want you.

I really like it and this episode was really really good Um mainly because in the first five minutes, uh, Sansa the redhead that plays Jean Grey She uh she finally gets her balls back or actually gets them in the first place. I guess it's better put that Um, she got turned over by little finger, which is a horrible name. Um, well, the guy who runs the guy who runs the world Like she got turned over to it's a good name for he had turned her over to the sadistic fuck that took over winter fell Okay, she has a great turn and did all kinds of shit to her and um she escapes Well now she's under the protection of brianne and she goes to meet with little little finger because he has some news for her and he wants to see her And she's a fucking tough chick now Like it's cool to see her be like empowered and confident and talk some shit Like she's just like do you know what he did to me and the guys are why I have some idea. She's like I want to hear them I can't speak like I want you to I want you to I will have her strike you down if you don't tell me what you think he did to me Oh snap.

Yeah, it was pretty fucking mean um and then the episode was able to go on There's you know you get to see the creation of where the white walkers came from Um, basically the the spirit folk or the tree folk or the fuck the other tree fires nature Nature sprites where they are They created the white walkers from a human by driving this like crazy spike into his chest and they make the white walker king whatever he is Um To defend against the humans because humans were you know destroying a forest and all like a shit Um, but then there are now so he's captain planet sorta Except without the power of heart apparently The Mexican I thought the Mexican kid had a ring for heart. No, he's Indian. Okay, that'd be worse. Okay, he's gonna brown kid You know the brown kid Anyway, the chorus own so Graham is going through the past and he sees whole doors a kid and what are eats it on this one?

Yes, yes So he said and this is while the the walkers are coming and they can get past the the protection spell now because Graham Graham sorry, Graham went into the past and saw the king and he touched him in the past and left him with a mark and that allowed him Yeah, because he has like weird time travel. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, so they start to fight the walkers kill yet another dire wolf Which I hate when I kill the tyro wolf. I mean it's awesome.

They have the love digs other than one left Um sure so kill the the kill dire wolf the the tree sprites start sacrificing themselves defending brand against brand making sure it's okay I try to get brand enough time to get out or be dragged out rather because you can't walk um And then whole door is taken control of by brand to help open this door Yeah, the door is named the whole time Yeah, the whole time brand is still in the past seeing whole doors a kid and he's talking. He's you know, he's functional. He's not Oh, he's not like or door or door or door. Oh, um, he's like may I open the door for you?

So but as soon as he takes over or in the present the kid in the past like has a fucking seizure falls on the ground and starts screaming Hold the door hold the door because that's what the girl is screaming at own order in the present And the past no Brand out away from the walkers is screaming at a whole door because there's no latch in the door Sweet Jesus once again time travel gives me a hit Yeah, so this gets screaming And they're going back and forth between the present the past and the kids screaming hold the door and the girl screaming hold the door and then eventually Hold door becomes hodor The kid in the past starts saying he starts mumbling and saying for the door Hodor instead of And then what word it's killed as he's holding the door closed by against all the walkers and there's axes coming through and it's actually very Touching scene, um and they did a really good job of it But uh the day after on Facebook I wanted to send a picture of you know Like the old door jams over door jam stuff under door to make it stay open or stay close Hodor is a picture hodor And now I'm gonna say it's like it's effectively a temporal someone needs to make that a million dollars Um, yeah, I think this is still interesting. Um, this was episode four. I think of this season maybe three so oh it's further than that Okay, okay, I Yeah, it might be five five that makes sense actually because based on their previous seasons five is when something big Yeah, this is part a and then there's part B So sevens me badass and they'll be quiet for a little bit um and then dragons and then I'll break loose Well, it's apparently in the books like dragons the dragon fire doesn't have a lot of effect on white walkers Okay, which is why I thought you were going with But hey, you know, maybe the nearest can just hand her her nine pound business card with all of her names on it And it was crushed their skulls. Oh and there's did kill she controlled the death of dr.

Again She uh she burned up all the old queens all the old kalices because she can't be burned So she said fire to the tent they were all in and they all died and now she's controlling the dr. Okay, well good because I was you know start on the streets stuff racking the sheets so I With weak just to that That horrible thing that one let's go to have a little bit horrible thing. That was a good one. It was okay.

That was all right Anyway, so uh one app I've been playing and I want to bring up a second one as well. Okay, I've been playing pirates bay Which is basically you still software? No, you don't um it's very much um, Texas hold him meets uh solitaire. I actually really dig it The in that purchase I just realized actually early tonight a little steep I played the first 15 Levels or whatever um And then they go 99 cents to play or ask a friend and I'm like Am I not played pay 99 cents like per world because Which I did for the second world.

I'm gonna wait to see if there's an update that says like hey 29 whatever but for the first like initial offering like Kind of shitty right um button game loved it. Um, it makes you want to play Texas hold him Danger danger danger. What Robinson? That actually is on that one.

Um a lot of fun. The second one, uh, is on android and on uh, ios And I actually I almost liked to do about this one. Okay. Yeah called ulterior, which is basically one of those like You're in a dark room.

Here's how to get out. Here's a glimmer of a hint. Okay. Um, I looked at the hinge I went to the hint uh regenerates after five minutes.

Okay, um You have to pay I think it's a 99 cents for the rest of the game after the first 20 levels, which is nice because it's like Yeah, like if you don't dig it after like level five level 10 level 15 ulterior like motive Okay, be not alterite. Uh, no you you ulterior. Okay, like motive Um I highly recommend buying the whole game. Um, I'm on level 20 I think three of how it's got Um, it's not for the I would say faint of heart in terms of creativity Like if you play like though, like I'm in a dark room.

Um, this is how I get out and you got really frustrated at like three levels Don't buy this game because even the hints don't actually help sometimes Okay, um, I don't want to give too much away, but um It's one of those where like I said there for like I can't play like during a smoke break because It'll take me like 20 minutes at one point. It's gonna be two days um taking screen grabs Of a certain level. Okay We're like I got like a couple days and was like I'm just gonna say screen grabs of this because they're asking for like an exit code for digit. Okay, um, you have Two rows of six digits changing randomly.

Oh, yeah, okay And I hate to like kind of give the spoiler away But like I took like three or four like screen grabs of what was going on and managed to figure it out Okay, but like if I wouldn't have done that I didn't sit there going I don't even know Because it's just like two by two by six like changing randomly going out the code and I'm like I don't know what you want I want the code Give me the code please Because I watched that like a month ago. Yay golden child So those are my apps of the week Uh gondewritter's no actually don't I've been busy running around I was doing well in spurtend days. I was four that was in Portland for a week breaking out of banks with a Did you see that post? They told me I could use specialized tools or lock picks.

So I used a vanilla folder a coat hanger stuff out of your closet a pizza Pizza I used up. Yeah, I want to go on my other job. There's a pizza and a bug sprayer on one other on one other locations But uh on the first use of pizza. I tend to deliver a pizza.

So I bought pizza down street I needed to get into the building and I didn't want to just walk in because it was a new bullet printable hall It was it was a yeah, it was a yeah, it was a place that It's a little bit only just walk into so I bought a pizza and walk in saying that the place next door hit over too many And then one of them is I thought bring one by and say that's literally the incredible hulk with Chris banger I please use your bathroom and the guys like thanks for the pizza and you're like I just got all of your camera radiation and then there was another one where um I made my coworker way down the street by bugs where he was in filled water And had him walk on the outside of the building a little bit sprain and then he walked in started sprain and no one stopped him So he just kept going he hit he hit under a desk for what we thought was gonna be two hours And ended up he had four and a half till everybody left and then he left me it and then went into the rest of the building So there's that um Shouldn't work sounds silly, but it works a lot. Uh, yeah And so the first place I used a male folder coat hanger to trigger the exit sensor Nice so that even if they had been paying attention All it looked like in a computer logs was someone left the room right off the office And then the bank branch downstairs used a paperclip Uh to pull back the latch of the door handle because there was no dead belt on the door for some stupid reason Um, so yeah, good times and I didn't use any specialized tools or electics Which is silly to me because they're a bank and people would use specialized tools and or electics to get into a bank But whatever I didn't need to Talk to my boss about like picking like locks with like paper clips Like really i'm like you can do it. It's possible. I don't want you to know that I can do it.

It sucks because That's a whole another of an issue, but um, also I can kind of hack your entire hotel system from the Thank you So, uh, speaking of the co- I was too busy running around on the road Okay, do you have a Red shirts now, okay, we covered him in uh, DC TV with those We can we can throw in a portion of a week We'll just make it right at least doing it because she has a snapchat ever That's a very nice way of calling it that No, but I'm calling it that oh, yeah, okay Anyway, what are you about to say? Uh, social contract asshole. Yeah So I invited a co-worker to join me on playing trivia, which we know we do He's really bad at meeting a lot of people all at once sure Well, I choose them to seven people I get you're gonna be weird Um, but hey Well, let me yeah, there's so many preface's on this One is a cocktail guy which basically means he's verando um from sex in the city Right now I got you Yeah And he goes oh to make you proud I'm gonna drink whiskey. Okay, great And he goes I've ordered a crown apple and cranberry, which is a large apple shot Yeah, which means you're drinking whiskey wrong If you're ordering that as a drink you're drinking whiskey wrong, but anyway, my point is he drinks three of them Three drinks not three watch apples Same thing, um three cocktails.

Yeah He fucks off because he has to work early the next day, right because I do not great He leaves I get a text like 20 minutes later. I owe you for those drinks He just hung me out to dry on Drinks right he just settled me with his tab Goddamn it if I Ask you out and I ask you out. I'm gonna hang out. Yeah, but like if I invite you out.

Mm Don't hang with the tab. No, I agree. I at least you know not don't do it and then I guess there's ways to do it, but at least ask ahead of time like hey, you know I'd let hang out but can you cover me for tonight and I'll get you back absolutely Well, the thing is like this is like no rent no response always right he does not quote-unquote work hungry as I like to say He didn't realize that I work hungry like so when he goes like yeah, it is like like take care of it I'm like yeah, no don't do that like I'm gonna have the put in a position Right to go to a bar manager and go hey kind of a tamper like three days and so I can come back on my payday and pay you And if this kid doesn't see anything wrong with it And your name is six happened It does but on top of that you were telling me some of the other things that he was doing which you're just he was very rude to one of our friends Crouchy old man right now I'm noticing that a lot of these damn kids Tab that's the new lawn is part of my bar tabs No I get this kid wasn't born in this country, but he's been here long enough. This is gonna get really racist Okay But I'm like he I've gone out with him on his own right and He's paid for my drinks he goes well I didn't tip you out at work So I'll buy your drinks.

Okay, like he understands a certain level of etiquette on this one like he didn't and I'm wondering Why he didn't he just based it who did he did he can't Maybe was an actual accident a legitimate accident and because of the other things that happened that night you're taking it At he did drink before he came in but I like your whole Shrapa theory Like your whole sure sure I work with a retard and I'm gonna call him that I wasn't saying that That's not here to free cat about it. No, I mean I don't think that's the case. I think he's just a socially and absurdly awkward person who may have actually forgotten something Such as paying the bar tab because maybe you rush to get home. Maybe something was up.

Maybe you got a text No, no, it doesn't work early in the morning. Yeah, there are reasons I've left but I've left and forgot my card or you know whatever that isn't excuse They left someone who he didn't know your situation though like keep that mind I'm not coming to his defense, but I will give him that where I go like eight you know like you don't have like Destroy my you know bar tab called apocalypse. I got it, but that doesn't mean she should assume that I do You know, I mean yeah, where he like just like me goes all pay you back for those and I'm going Well funny story like I couldn't pay for him. I can't say I'm back and sit down here come back.

I can't oh He was driving his ex-girlfriend to Or who he brought with her Nah, she's dancing dude name Nathan. That's on the story. Okay Weird and I Don't know maybe you're just I'm not saying you're I think personally is the wrong place at the wrong time But yeah, so is he in terms of revenge right because like I've said I'm a good friend, but I'm a better enemy. Oh Yeah, this has been a blood alcohol content network production for more information visit www.bac n podcast calm your home for almost bacon and banjo

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