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Okay, I think that's right. Sorry for starting late. I was really enjoying the panel. I was in here before.

I was like, oh, there's people outside. I feel like I'm complete church. Does anybody under 18 in here? Does it matter?

You don't count. You kind of count. I may swear accidentally and I apologize because I'm tired and I'm over. Some of the nature of this conversation can't actually turn to things that make me angry.

Depending on it. Has anybody seen this panel before? I'm trying to remember what I did last night. This panel has basically five branching directions so they can possibly go.

Is the choose your own adventure panel. I'm trying to remember what I did last night. There may be some repeat. I will try really hard not to.

But I legitimately don't remember exactly if this was what we got. Like weird growing up stories or Admiral Perry or any of the other weird stuff. Okay, yeah. This panel exists because of Jan Scott Fraser who I assume you all know who Jan is.

Jan Gup does a really good panel about her life. She is not doing it this conceptly but she does this phenomenal panel about her life and everything that she's done. She has had a spectacularly interesting life filled with adventure and traveling the world and being shot at. It is a spectacularly interesting life and I look forward to her writing several books about the strangeness that she has gone through.

Yeah. I felt kind of a shot at once. It didn't really count. I don't think they were actually aiming to hit.

That is a story. How this panel usually works is I'm going to start off on some tangent and while I'm talking I will occasionally come up for air. At some point you are welcome to raise your hand and either ask a question. I usually recommend questions that are less anime based.

Although if you ask an anime based one I may like decide that it is interesting in some way or I might go. No. And just keep moving. And the questions and the things that people ask sort of direct the flow of conversation.

This is a very random panel. So Dr. Jan. So I saw Jan do this panel on her life and the strange things she did.

I was like I have had a very very weird experience and my life kind of doesn't make any sense. I don't really talk about it very much. It doesn't come up in my normal life. I have sort of acclimated to the real world.

But it is an interesting perspective in how I sort of ended up working in anime and how I ended up going to these conventions and how I ended up living the life that I am living. It is sort of odd. I am using. So I have decided this is going to be the one time during my year when I actually talk about myself.

You know how it feels. It feels weird to talk about yourself. So all right here we go. A little late.

I got through the first part. My name is Talis and Jaffy. I am a voice director and voice actor and script adapter for Jaffy's animation and video games. I have been doing that for 20 years.

I normally say I am older than I look except I am pretty hungovers. I probably look at my age right now. I can probably deal with like 12 hours of sleep and shape. At this point it is a more hair dye.

I originally started as a child actor and I worked as a child actor for 15 years. From the time I was 6 months old and I was approximately 14 years old. I was just when I kind of ended. So with that and I came from a family.

I came from a family that was a film industry family and before there was a film industry family. It was a theater family. Going back four or five generations. My great grandmother was a film actress in the silent era.

My great grandfather was a producer in the silent era and married a film actress. That is how things work. My grandparents worked in the industry. My parents worked in the industry.

My generation is kind of the first generation where people really did anything different. All of my uncles, my aunts, everybody, we have one uncle who became a lawyer. We don't really talk to him. He made his life choices.

Oh, I'm a lawyer, God. Oh, Uncle Peter. So I started working before I could talk. I don't actually have any memories of not being a working professional for my childhood.

I worked enough and worked pretty consistently. They made a movie called Mr. Mom, which runs on television on occasion. I did two years on the sitcom called She's the Sheriff, which is one of the 100 worst rated sitcoms in history.

I'm on a list. I'm very proud of it. It's terrible when I love it. It's actually the show that ended me up here and I'll get to that in a second.

The first weird thing about that is when you work as a child actor, you don't actually go to school, which is one of the bonuses of being a child actor is that you have a tutor on the stage and four to six hours a day you are in school, which is a room with you and maybe one other kid and a teacher. I didn't actually have to talk to any other kids. I didn't really know any. I didn't have to.

There were really none around. A lot of children have talked to enough other child actors to know that this is a very similar experience where because you don't actually meet any children, you start to relate to people in a very adult sense. You're on set and you're working and you're expected to relate even if you're seven or eight years old as an adult. People won't treat you like an adult.

They'll treat you like a kid, but they expect you to return that with a very adult attitude and you're there to work and you're there to get stuff done and you have to be on cue and on. They have your lines memorized. You have to be ready to work and you're staging down and at eight. So you're more than this weird creature, which is neither child nor adult and just sort of someone to either say the worst of both or the best of both depending on your point of view.

The only thing you actually know about real children is you're expected to act like them in 30 seconds at a time. In this very television film theory of what they are. The only kids I saw were the kids that I played or the kids I saw on television, I had no actual responses to what normal people are. She's a sheriff and again at any point you want to raise your hand out yourself.

You don't have any siblings to do. Well, good question. I'm the oldest. I had eight years, the first eight years.

I didn't have anything. We're all about eight years apart. I had a little brother and he's crazy in his own right in homeschool and really an insane child. And then a year younger than that I had a little sister who's just now, today, dean and going to college and then below her I have a little brother.

All of us might have different father. I never else but my mother has a problem committing to one idea. I'm getting my mother at some point too. But she's the sheriff is really interesting.

It was a sitcom about Suzanne Summers using names that none of you will know because you're all too young. No, I'm pretty. This side of the... This side is like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

The side is... The thymaster lady. The thymaster lady. Yes, the thymaster lady.

Super sweet, very nice. But the cool thing about that show, it was like about like she played the sheriff at Lake Tahoe. It was like a woman sheriff. Oh, was it a wacky hilarity ensues?

It was lots of women who's kind of hot and she's a cop. Whoa. It was a different time. But most of the cast, like an enormous amount of the cast were voice actors.

Lou Richards was on the cast and Lou Richards was basically all of the male hero voices for Hannah Barbera. He was Galtar from Bell Thorne to Golden Lands. He was a flash lord in front of the defenders of the earth. He had a great beautiful voice.

Pat Carroll. Pat Carroll, who played the grandmother on the show, was the voice of Ursula the sea witch. She looks like Ursula too. She was like, oh yeah.

She was like, this was a large grandmother. She was great. She was also like our field grandmother. She did all sorts of stuff.

So I really got fascinated by the whole concept of doing voices for cartoons. We had people come on the show. We had the voice of Rainbow Bright. She was an interesting person.

And just threw through the little kids that you would be who were also actors and met some of the kids who were on the monkey booster cartoon. That was weird stuff. Yes, there was a monkey booster cartoon. Yes, there was a character.

What was the name of the floating... Oh god, yeah. Really? Yeah.

Wow. Thank you for bringing that back. God, I don't remember. I remember the names of all the characters in Rainbow Bright, but I don't remember the name of the little creature from Monkey Brister.

I know they killed it in Robot Chicken. They did. Oh god, bless Robot Chicken. So I did this for 13, 14 years.

I did this up until about freshman year of high school. I worked as an actor and I didn't go to elementary school particularly. I had a couple months in a real elementary school. I didn't really do junior high school.

I spent some time in junior high school, but it was a performing arts junior high school in Los Angeles. All the other kids were working actually fairly there. So we're all kind of like not...we weren't really real. We were all kind of...LA has a weird reputation for being a fake city and it's kind of is, but not in a bad way.

I don't really...it's one of those things that's hard to describe to people. Everybody is deeply superficial, but in a very unsuperficial way. We all know that it's an illusion and we celebrate it. I suppose it's that no one's pretending that it's real, which is great because it sort of makes us feel a little superior.

Everywhere else they don't, they think it is real. You know it's not. It's so fun. It's great.

It's a fun city. I highly recommend for you. It's kind of like other Disneyland. It's wonderful.

So at 13, I worked a little 15, 15, somewhere in there. It's all fuzzy. I don't really have done it again. So I decided I want to see what real life is like and I want to like I'm done.

And specifically I'm done because I have one of the things that everyone does, kind of what an audition is. It can be like three or four pages of something to read. You memorize three or four pages. You go into a room, you sit in a room with 30 other people who look weirdly like you in like a police lineup.

And they're all with their pages, learning their five pages. And then you all go into a room one at a time and have somebody man handle you in a really unpleasant way. I have one of my favorites that I ever did was I went into a room. Before I even got to read, they just grabbed my mouth and opened it and looked at my teeth and said no, next.

Like a racehorse. I was like nine. I'm like, well that was inappropriate. I don't want your peanut butter commercial even suck it.

It was a peanut butter commercial. It was a good thing. So this day the audition that I was going for was Baywatch. Thank you.

And it was possibly the worst three pages of copy I'd ever seen in my entire life. And then like I was a thirteen or fourteen year old going this is a piece of shit. This is terrible. This is ungodly.

No one talks this way. It's saccharin and it's awful and I hate it. And it's supposed to be this deep meaningful conversation between a kid and his grandfather and it is just hilariously bad. I'm trying to read it.

It's this very emotional scene and I keep cracking up because it's so, it's like trying to bond with his grandfather about like tiling himself off in the shower. It's so weird. And so like somebody has deep emotional issues that wrote this. I can't quite hang.

And I'm through the giggles my father in a moment of annoyance says, well if you can't take this seriously, maybe you shouldn't be doing it. And I took a second. I'm like, oh my god you're right. I'm about to go into a room with thirty people who would disturb him like a police line up and they have been working on this all day and they haven't been laughing.

They are, this is important to them. I'm disrespecting them by going into this room. It was like a asshole. I call my agent.

I quit. Done. I don't want to do this anymore. And I did.

And within a week I cut my hair into not quite this but I want to have a haircut that isn't a haircut that I have specifically so I can get hired for work. And I'm going to die my hair funny colors. And I'm going to go to a school and I'm going to do homework. And I'm going to go to a school and there's going to be drama and people are going to be weird and there's going to be math class.

It's going to be awesome. I learned all about all the things that I pretend to be for money that I'm going to blow up and see what stuff I'm on the board. So, I mean, bless it. So, when you were a child actor that was early for a child actor as we know that now we saw a bunch of train wrecks out of the reason.

Well, okay, here's the interesting thing. We had train wrecks. We have a lot of train wrecks. There were tons of train wrecks.

But the thing about train wrecks is that you don't hear about the success stories. Everyone thinks all of the child actors turn out really shibbly because five people snapped. And that's five people out of about 2000. Which is about a pretty reasonable number based off the general population for people in high pressure environments.

And so, you know, five people read about the will adjusted actors were like, yeah, I worked as a kid. I made some piece of money and now I work in a video game company. And they're like, all right, never rock a 7-Eleven never shave my head. Maybe never ended up in a diaper wandering through traffic.

Just, you know, made some poor decisions in tequila. Other than that, pretty fine. Yeah, I mean, like it's one of the same, it's like postal workers going, this sure, some postal workers going, that's a lot of them don't. A lot of them just go home and play some Madden.

It's really, you know, a little awesome scene. There's probably, I mean, the pressure is definitely weird and I'll definitely say that adjusting the reality was not an easy process. I went to a boarding school, that was my first like real school experience in the real world. I went to a boarding school in Colorado in the Roaring Fork Valley.

That's right. So I left Los Angeles, came to Colorado, went to a boarding school in the Roaring Fork Valley. And discovered, discovered that children are terrible. File, awful creatures who are just filled with hate and and vitriol and they were not my friends.

And I had spent my entire young life surrounded by very intelligent, reasonable people who had work to do and treated me with respect and, and... Oh, wow. And so I was under the impression that this is how people communicated in the world. You know, you're respectful and you talk things through and you figure everything out and it's great.

And you know, and like, and there was something like I was aware of what bullying was because I'd seen plenty of television bullying. I was aware I'd give me your lunch money and like, you know, like whatever. And I get to the boarding school and I'm really small. I'm a tiny, like as an actor being a small for your age, it's really good because you can be eight years old and play five.

And I'd like, they'd much rather have an eight year old than a five year old than a five year old than a five year old. Because an eight year old will actually be conscious enough to like do interesting stuff. So that was one of my big bonuses was I was really, I was really young looking for my age. You worked aware that it'd hire a school with any bullies?

Well, beyond that, like bullying in my head was very much an ABC afternoon special kind of thing. And... And I had this like vague theory of what it looked like, you know, from like from television specials. And then I'd also decided, yeah, I knew anything I wanted to say.

So I started growing my hair really long and was like this very effeminate beautiful long blonde hair at the time. I didn't grow up so I'm very proud of. And the first thing I hear out of the balance of the other child is children is the phrase ducat. And the next thing I know I'm duct taped to a post.

Being used as a punching bag for a bit couple hours. I was like, I think I've made a terrible mistake. It was not funny at the time, but now it's pretty funny. In perspective, everything can become funny eventually.

I know this to be true. This is one of the things I've learned is everything after enough time. After enough time, everything is funny. The answer is funny eventually.

There is funny cancer. It just needs to be a really old cancer. Remember that tumor? That was awesome.

I was about to say I have my my cousin who had a tumor. I had a small grapefruit pulled out of her chest when she was 14. And now every now and then it's like, the best part of you came out with a surgical tool in chemo. She's like, I look better bald than you do.

My cousin. Yeah, even cancer is eventually funny. Everything is eventually funny. It just sometimes can take about 100 years.

So yes, bullying can eventually be funny with the right perspective. So I spend a year in change at this school just getting kicked out of me on a daily basis and realizing that perhaps I needed to do something. And again, raise your hand if you want me to go out. This is apparently becoming this doc.

Sometimes this turns into a whole thing about the history of Japan and ever very, very last time. Oh, good. So you're getting a brand new show. Awesome.

I hate to repeat myself. So I spend a year getting, I have stories that are just horrific. And I was not the only kid being bullied. It was a lot of people.

It was just intense. There was bleeding. There was, there was bleeding. There was sexual assault.

There was lockers with things being thrown at them. There was some very creative uses of snow. And ice, baseball bats, like a broken bod. Like so much, like genuinely creative, like, like, part of the school level is shit.

What is more of what is Compton? You know, weirdly I spend time in Compton. People are nice in Compton. If you look a little nerdy in Compton, people will over go, you should want to be here.

Like, do you need something? Like, do you need help? Do you need anything? Yeah, everyone's really nice to go.

This is a remarkably chill. It's a good place for your part to break down. Oh, another story. Man, I can't drive that night.

Yeah, no. Entire buyers are amusing. Another fun thing happens right now. LA, people are nice in LA.

Mostly people are nice. But yeah, no, it's a year just awful. And at some point in the middle of this terrible, terrible thing and all this terrible stuff happening, I have what can only be described as a full-on, beautiful classic nervous breakdown. I just don't have the emotional skills to deal with this because it's...

I was never really a kid. Like, there's all these things that you learn that you're not supposed to... At this point, my hair is a mess at this point because they set my hair on fire and Spanish glass and it all burned up in this big mess. And so I just got these, like, tough, spiky, weird, very punk rock, actually.

I was kind of proud of it by the end. punk rock, tough, tear at that point. And I was bringing ourselves home. Ugh, ugh, ugh.

Still funny. You can laugh. It's totally okay. I can laugh.

It's all good. It's a long time. And every... I've had my revenge.

It was beautiful. What? But... You can't say you had to...

For criminal reasons, I can't really get into it, but... The statute of limitations isn't up yet? No, weirdly. The statute of limitations on arsenic is really...

There's, like, some rules about... Well, nevermind. But... One finger for every day of pain.

I kind of kid. I would get into that story too, actually. Why not? That's a fun one.

So one day I have a full under his breakdown and just lose my... It's just been awful. One of the kids who I was kind of sort of friends with was finally left to school because he was assaulted on a level that was near a breakdown level. And the kid who, like, you can grab out of him, got thrown out, put into a mental institution.

He was a crazy person. And all of this stuff has happened. And I just had this, like, twilight of the soul intense freak out. And then I wake up early in the morning, the sun hasn't even come up, and I just feel different.

And I'm not quite sure what happened. But there's this intense feeling of understanding. Like, I suddenly understand everything that's happened on this weird nonverbal level. And I drag all of my furniture from my dorm room out into the snow.

My chair, my side table, and my stereo. And I grab some soda. I'm in my boxers at this point. And there's snow outside whereby there's, like, a little isolated by the dorm room.

And I set up my little chair and I'm like, I'm going to watch the sunrise. I bet it's going to be a really pretty sunrise. And I'm sitting with my soda at my bathroom at my boxers' shorts in the snow in my chair with my inside table. And my stereo, my mnings of music.

And just watching the sunrise, drinking my soda. And as the sun starts to rise, the rest of the dorm slowly wakes up. And they see this. And no one really comments.

A bunch of them kind of grab a soda and come outside and join me. We don't talk. We just sort of watch the sunrise. And I drag all my furniture back into my room.

And I'm never messing with ever again. And I'm like... That's the end of that. And I wish I could say exactly what it was that happened if it was just a shift in my own perspective.

And it was like somehow that my furniture set was threatening. But it was just never spoken of again. And suddenly it stopped. As quickly as it had begun with the word duck, it stopped with a sunrise.

Yes. Because you don't fuck with crazy. I wonder. I genuinely wanted to...

I thought that for a while, but there was plenty of crazy at that school that they did fuck with. But it was quite crazy. It was quite crazy. It was like German exchange student crazy.

I wish I could remember his name. He had some bad stuff happen to him. Oh, that one time it was so... God.

He got tied up in a hammock and used his pinata from the second floor. They left it there overnight and he'd almost tuned his way out of the hammock. Did you not have adults around? It was surprisingly unsupervised.

You picked the worst according to the worst. I've gone back since and had conversations with people. And they were like, no, you're... there was like something...

There was like a satanic pack. But my hair was like... An enormous number of people from my year at that school got expelled. Like a double digit percentage.

Yeah, there was something in the water that year where people just went. Like one kid was really so bad that he actually had a psychotic break and went blind. And his brain went freaked out and his eyesight shut off. There was nothing physically wrong with him.

I just stopped working. And like, man, I wish I had thought of that. That's ridiculous. Whoa, that's convincing.

Yeah, it was just one of... And my friends who have been to that school since were like, it wasn't that bad. I know it was my year. You were fine.

One of my good friends went there about a decade after I did. But yeah, so I had this recap. Everything was fine. I was like, you know what, I'm moving back to Colorado.

It's not working for me. I don't want to fit in here. I'm going to go home. And I went back to LA.

There was a story that was going to get it to be. Yes, revenge will get to that. So I go back to LA and I just commit to wearing a lot of black loving like you do. And listen to the sort of music you listen to when you wear a lot of black loving.

He's like, oh, it's not here. Well, so much cure of black living. Pish mode. Pish mode.

It's happened at Bauhaus. Oh, Bauhaus. And I become that kid. And it's kind of spectacular because after the nice thing about that level of bullying and anybody who's gotten to the other end of it, like if you're in the middle of it, I'm sorry.

I wish I could tell you how to make a stop. I genuinely don't know how it would happen. It's just one day it does for no reason whatsoever. But after that, I realized I was no longer afraid of anything anymore.

That eventually, fear came back eventually, but I had a good five years of no fear whatsoever. And this is hell true. The worst thing that ever happened to me had already happened. So I'm like, I've got a long time before something worse than high school happens.

It's going to be like the hospitalization when I'm 70 and I'm like, start breaking down. I'm like, okay, this is worse than high school. But in the meantime, I had like intense depressive episodes. I've had mild psychotic breaks.

I've had people die on me. I've had all sorts of terrible things. Nothing has been as bad as high school. That's over with.

And so like any of this bad as it gets, I'm like, well, it's still not that bad. Woo! I'm rock and roll. And I'm being evicted.

Still not as bad as high school. It's just all my stuff's on the curb. And then my cats just run away because I can't keep them like, I don't care. It's not high school.

But yeah, not having an even the slightest bit of fear. It's just a good sunrise out of it. And yeah, no, the first day I'm back in my new school, I have one guy like, like, ABC afternoon special. So I'll try and hustle me for my lunch money because this is not a crazy school now.

This is a normal school where bullying is just like, giving your food. And I go so Christian and snitter on him. Just, nah! And that's the end of that.

You don't mess with crazy. But you have to like, but I was just saying enough to know precisely how much crazy I could do before getting into trouble for being the crazy kid. So it's a fine line to walk. So at that point I'm like, I need to do something fun with my life because life is short and terrible things happen and you should really enjoy yourself.

You should enjoy yourself in a way that doesn't harm others and I'm in the mood. I don't want to be a jerk and because I've had enough of jerks and although I can see the appeal. And I decide that I'm going to get at 17. I'm like, I'm in the mood for an internship.

High school's boring. High school's boring. I'm not enjoying, like even the people, unless there are people I've done right left. And I had people in high school after, I was like, all right, I'm just going to make real relationships.

And be honest with people and be totally cool. I'm going to make these wonderful relationships. And there's people I still talk to and we still love each other and it's great. You know, shit goes bad.

We call each other and it's awesome. Really great relationships with happening. For everyone that goes sour, you'll have four that like maintain and it's awesome. The one that goes sour really sucks but the rest are good.

Don't let that, don't let this wait you from being honest and open with people. With that. So I decide I want to be a corner because that sounds awesome. People don't have judgments.

That sounds great. I'm going to be in a room with people who I can talk to and they'll do nothing but agree with me. Not, not, not. So I start on that path and get it, it's not even an internship.

I basically make friends with a bunch of people that use the LA corners office. And they let me start taking some of the base classes. I get to watch human dissections. And I'm having a great time.

I'm well suited for the work. It was a great time. It was a fun time. It was a very punk rock era at the UCLA corners department, which is no longer a punk rock era.

People got in trouble. Long after I left, there were some very iffy usages of donated bodies. I didn't think they were going to get the usages. I thought they were perfect and reasonable.

But apparently there were rules. And we're starting to go in that direction and decide that this is a perfect thing for me. I'm going to do this with my life. And then...

Oh, you lost its feet. I was like, what happened? I did that. And then I'll talk loudly until I finish putting this together.

And then there was a toy store opening up near my house that would specialize in Japanese toys. I'm loving my little pseudo internship. I need money because I was like 17 at this point. And I was done living at home.

I had enough of that. I was like, you know, I'm 17. I'm sure I can pull together enough money to live by myself and not have to do with this. And so I got a job at a Japanese toy store.

And after a while they decided that I was abusing and ended up moving me up in the chain, I mentioned the manager of the Japanese toy store. I was like, oh, the joy store. Yeah, that's weird. And being the manager of a Japanese toy store in Los Angeles was kind of spectacular.

It was a mom front. It wasn't really a toy store. It was basically a way of wondering money. So they didn't really care what I did with the place.

I could kind of just run it however I wanted. And it was like, I went mad with power. And so we would like stay open all night sometimes because there was a restaurant next door that was open all night called Head to Bemax. And it was one of the restaurants they based off of the restaurant in Pulp Fiction.

It was like a 50s cafe with really expensive... They had a $12 shake. And it was mostly... I had pop musicians that went there at 2am in the morning and they played booty rap videos really loud.

But it was all 50s named. It was so weird. It was not now. But it was like this landmark place where all of these intense hip hop musicians in Los Angeles would go to the middle of a night for $12 no shakes.

And then they would drunkenly come over and go to the Japanese toy store and go through the stuff. And the place kind of got a reputation for being sketchy and weird. It was great. I was so proud.

And so we'd have high school kids come over and be like, I just had three times of acid and I don't really know what's going on. I'm like, come on into the store. We just locked the door. I want some toys to play with.

You want to watch some cartoons? Why do you need to like a picture? And actually send them back home to their parents who do let them wander streets on drugs. Great parents.

So many great parents. Running a toy store, you really get to see some of the dynamics of like family. Yes. So we know we're kind of running out of time so we can go to revenge.

Wow. Oh, am I going to... Alright, is anybody recording this? I am going to stop.

Alright, stop. Right now. This is a trial I have been watching. I've been making the pie.

It's not. You're here. If you are here for the latest R-TRA panel, you're in the wrong place. So this right here is superheroes on screen oversaturated or raising the bar.

We'll have this right to raise the bar, but that's fine. That's what's going to happen on this. And we'll start with introductions and we will start with them. I've got to go to Bush.

I write Epic Fantasy. Mostly some other things do. And my latest series is the Faux of the Seven Eyes. The Seven of the Seven of the Seven of the Bitch just came out this year.

And I also edit the 19-0 in respect for one more issue. And then you can be tired for 10 years. I'm doing the starting and under the beginning to the starting and right, but I'm just trying to open up a series and under the Chicago and Chicago's on the front of the front of the series. And this is basically very interesting.

Hi, I'm Carrie Vaughn. I'm a professor known for the Urban Fantasy series that I wrapped up with for 14 this summer. I do a lot of other things as well. I have a team of trucks, a series on Lightsby.

My next book coming out is a space opera called Study Raw. I'm going to have a minute. That's great. I'm Gary Thomas.

I'm also right over in the fantasy of the Jonathan Jade series and some other shots. I am Chuck Anderson. I'm mostly right microfiction. And I have a series on Lightsby.

All right, very good. So the obvious answer on this particular subject is if oversaturated or is it just going to go in and have a great time? It depends on whether or not you're super heroes or what kind of things are going to do a decent job. If you think the movie sucks and the show sucks, then it's oversaturated.

If you think they're doing a great job, you're watching Daredevil, you're all asking for fun. So yeah, they're going to be a great time. And I think it makes a vote. So kind of run down and get opening thoughts on this and then we're just going to rip on it.

Well, to me, the movies are oversaturated because I really enjoyed Daredevil because we really dug into character. And I'm more interested in that. And a lot of the movies just are too flashbait to spend. It's a ton of character.

I mean Batman accepted. I don't see, honestly, I don't know if it would be some kind of over it. I see sometimes a little dumb down, but I could be wrong because I'm not seeing some of them. So it might be just the trailers.

Or it might be my 16-year-old. So I'm going, it's awesome. And I'm going, yeah, I probably don't like it. So.

Yeah, I have to. I do quite a bit of that too. I don't see a lot of the movies until I come on Netflix. I don't know.

I see them. Oh, because usually I'm a superhero. I'm the same around the back, but I think my favorite superhero trilogy was the Dark Knight. That guy just grabbed me.

And I think it was because it was so much. Why are you scared? Because it was so much. Because it was so much.

I really like that. I am in the setting. I'm absolutely loving this. And I go back and think about it.

And I did grow up in the 70s. I was looking at the 70s. So I was working on a woman and an incredible hall of fans, a brown woman. And Spider-Man is amazing, but he doesn't even remember that.

And so that was in some of France. And it's like, so those were all what I watched when I was a very impressionable young age. And then there was this vast wasteland. Like, I remember when, if you wanted a live-action superhero movie, you had Juleshi Muckers Batman movies.

And that's it. That's all there was. And we all went to it and we edited it and we pitched about it. Because we knew it was bad, but it was all there was.

And now, I have choices. I did not go see the new Fantastic Four movie because it looked awful. And I said to myself, I do not have to go see this movie because I've got a good superhero movie. I can go see the movie.

And I love having choice. I think it is raising the bar. At least the smart maneuvers are realizing that yes, they have to do more than character. I love the Marvels and the big character.

I do think that they do think that they do the big character. I love the Flash and Arrow. I love Daredevil. Oh my gosh.

I can't wait for Jessica Jones. I love that I do think the bar is being raised and I am in heaven right now. It's great. I will rant.

I have so many superhero movie rants. I am really happy that Daredevil will be in it. It is awesome. It is so overwhelming at that time.

I just have to have the chance to see him. There is so much stuff coming out now. I am sure another season is coming in with the movie superheroes. I am still catching up.

It is just sorry. I am supposed to be sort of objective about this. I grew up in the 70s. I grew up really smart.

I am not sure. I am not sure. I am objective about this but I can't be because I grew up in the 70s and I grew up reading Marvel comics and watching the $6 million man and on Rogers and all the same sorts of things. To me this, again this is because Marvel is just so amazing.

I hate it man. It is so amazing. I hate it man. It is so amazing.

That movie sucked. One of the worst movies I have ever seen. Superman is some of these. He has all the great buildings and so much other.

That is what is going on. He is killing people. That is not Superman. That is not for me.

I do like Batman. Batman was always my favorite superhero as a kid because he developed his own abilities. It was not something where he had supernatural or very active spider in dark. That was something you could actually do.

That is why I was like Batman. I loved the dark knight but I hated the dark knight. I thought that was sucked. That was just, he has a back broken.

He is going to the month. Yeah. I want to know how Batman is dealing with Superman. It makes Superman return so much.

You are so runny too. I am so runny too. He is just not a black Superman return. He is just not a black Superman return.

So I saw him in a steel and I feel the same way that a lot of people go down in a steel. And Superman returns just happened beyond it. I left it on a watch for a while. I am like, what am I am going to play?

Oh my god what am I going to say? Superman. Like nothing else. Superman returns is super bad.

Oh my god. I am going to play Superman. Something else. I am going to let him in.

Well I was just going to say you have choices now because the technology has gotten there. CGA. I don't think that's it. I honestly don't think that's it.

That's the story. There is wealth of story in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Because they brought them 50 years of comic books and they have all these great storylines. The Civil War kind of stuff.

All sorts of fun stuff they can play with. They can choose and take the best out. They can take some of the most people that are hurt. They can't make a really fun movie.

They can do things like the Black Panther coming up. What I wish they knew was Black Widow. That's the one I wanted to say. That's going to be great.

But what they did like with Captain America was never a fan of Captain America. I think Chris Evans really brought that to life. I didn't think he was that good actor until I saw one of the cutscenes from the Avengers that ended up in the Winter Soldier. Where he was there with the girls.

He's not. He's got Alzheimer's. You can see it. He's also the look.

That's great. You watch Derida. Oh what Vincent did not pre-ow did with the Kingpin. Oh my god.

You have this amazing writing and then you have this phenomenal actor who reads this light into it. It's just incredible. I'm having a lot of it. I'm having a great day here.

So take us away. Superhero rant. Oh there's something. Yeah I mean that's the only fantastic CGI.

I don't even know where to start with my rant. But yeah I can go. Agent Carter. We don't have like what we do have Agent Carter who is this fantastic.

I hope we're going to have a lost movie. Oh my god. I trust them. I think I'm on Marvel movies is I trust them.

What I'm loving is that we've got so many different tones. Derida was dark and violent and they did a really good job at the Derida's the Wild. I did not like dark night. I had a really hard time with dark night because it was super violent and I think it cheated.

It's PG-13 which I think was the wrong way. I think it needed to be art but they were going for the PG-13 and they got it by not showing sprays of blood. It's so it's so free and arbitrary. Am I having to really say fun?