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Alright, Wastelanders and Vault Dwellers, welcome back to the Fallout Lorecast. And this program is brought to you today by Gomorrah, and it will be our little secret. Welcome back, everybody. I am your host, Tom, or Robots, and I'm here, as usual, with my wonderful co-host, Neospandora, or Laini.
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Hey, things are good. Good, good, good. Hey, so how do you feel about taking a little trip with me to New Vegas? What do you think?
What do you think about that? You know, I've heard good things. Why not? Let's go.
Yeah, let's go. Okay, so we've been kind of wandering around the wasteland. We've kind of, you know, gone up and down, you know, up and down and around the Strip. But what do you say we head into the main, the main strip?
We kind of work our way in. We pass the, you know, pass the Protectrons and the, what are those big robot guys with the funny faces and all that stuff. We get right on in there to the main strip. And I considered doing an episode about the house and the coming together of all the different gangs on the strip.
But, you know, we basically did that episode. I had Ken from the Chat of Fallout 76 episode. We talked about Mr. House and his power over the strip and all of that stuff.
So we really covered that. So if you haven't listened to that episode, it was probably about a year and a half ago. Go back and listen to that one. It was a big, long episode.
We covered that. Mr. House brought the gangs together from the wasteland, gave them their own casinos on the strip and said, Hey, listen, everybody, you chill out, live by my rules, and we're all going to get together and live peacefully. And I'm going to give you power and give you some protection, and you basically have your own little itty-bitty kingdoms in these little itty-bitty casinos.
And this will be where you have control. So that's where we are. And now we're going to talk about the individual casinos and the gangs that lord over those little casino kingdoms, I guess you could call them. So what are we talking about today?
Which one are we starting with? All right, so we're starting with Gomorrah. Gomorrah. Gomorrah.
Brought to you by Gomorrah. It'll be our little secret. So what's the deal with Gomorrah? Well, I mean, there's many a deal, I suppose.
So Gomorrah, obviously, you prefaced it. It's one of the functioning casinos in New Vegas on the strip that you can go into, and you can do things like gambling. But, of course, there's a lot more going on than just that. So we're going to talk about, you know, the details.
And I want to start off introducing the Omeritas. Is that how you pronounce that? I think so. And this is a gang.
This is one of the gangs that Mr. House brought together, and he gave them Gomorrah, right? This is a very scary gang. This is a very ruthless gang.
They're incredibly murderous. They take a lot of joy in kidnapping and killing people. And they have for a very long time. But we'll get into that more in a second.
So... Alright, well, they seem like they're all about fun, because Big Sal says stuff like this. Oh, wait, hold on. I've got to turn up my volume on this one.
Hold on. You play some games. Have some fun. Seems like such a nice guy.
I mean, they seem like they're cool. Oh, yeah. Play some games, have some fun. Well, what's wrong with that?
What's wrong with that? So, I mean, obviously, you can imagine that a casino run by a gang might be a kind of wild place. And Gomorrah is... It really embodies this, right?
And so this is the... Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. Let me interrupt you again.
A place named Gomorrah is a wild place? It's a bit crazy. Do you understand the word Gomorrah? Do you know where that comes from?
Yeah, well, I was going to talk about it later, but yes. Okay, do we want to drop that now, just in case people are wondering? Yeah, do you know what the word Omerita means? Yeah, let's talk about word origins.
I love word origins. Well, so let's talk about Gomorrah first. Gomorrah is also the name of the character in Guardians of the Galaxy, which is interesting. That's true, but not where this came from.
And not where this came from. But that's also a reference to the origin of the word, which was the city from... It's referenced in the Bible, in Sodom and Gomorrah, which God deems both of those cities to be too sinful and decides to destroy them. With sulfur and fire.
With sulfur and fire, and bad, bad, bad things. These people are too sinful, mostly in the sense that they are too overtly sexual, and they need to be wiped from the earth. So thanks, God. Thanks for that.
And yeah, so therefore, sins of the flesh. And that's the sense that you get with Gomorrah, especially with the... Yeah, that's what they're known for. That's what they're known I'm not sure if you're funny or just stupid, but I'm not amused.
Make me a real offer and we can talk. So, Nero, again, word origins or name origins. Nero, clearly a reference to the Emperor Nero, the emperor who played his violin or his fiddle, depending on the origin of the word, while Rome burned. Was supposedly insane, but more recent evidence, and I read an article about this recently, was that he may not have been as insane as we think he was.
He may have been a little bit more calculated in some of his decision making, but... So just evil? Maybe. I mean, evil is always subjective when it comes to world leaders who do terrible things because what world leader doesn't have to do terrible things?
I'm not trying to make justification. You're condoning terrible things. I'm not condoning terrible things, but it's hard to go back in historical times and pick a world leader that didn't kill many people. Yeah, that's true.
It's hard to do that. But at the same time, there may have been some very specific reasons why he was doing what he was doing, not just for the sake of murder, you know, not just like blind obsession with, you know, destruction or, you know, murdering people. There may have been some very specific reasons why he was doing what he was doing. But anyway, yeah, so the idea is that this character, also in New Vegas, may be doing some things for a very specific reason, not just because he was seeking, you know, to see the world burn.
And we'll get into that a little bit, probably. So, yeah, so Nero, think Emperor Nero. Think, now we're thinking Roman. Again, Italian, Roman.
There's some connections here, right? So and then you mentioned Big Saul. So we've got Big Saul. What the fuck is this shit?
Catino, you dumb motherfucker. Yeah, we are going to have some words with Catino. Meet me in my office. Now, I mean, this guy sounds very mafia.
The voice actor they got for Big Saul is very, very mafia. Well, and he mentions Catino. And that's basically their right-hand man. He's doing all the tasks that they don't want to carry out, right?
He's doing all the things that they just order him around and he does all the busy work so that they can do the things that are really fun and exciting, like killing people. Yeah, like, you know, the fun, exciting parts. And then there's what Catino sounds like. You better get outside for a little bit.
I'm sure they're going to look for the infamous Courier when things go to hell. Yeah, so these are the three main people that you interact with who are at least somewhat in charge, depending on which one you're talking to at the time. So, okay, so go on. So these guys, I mean, I've mentioned before, these are some pretty skeevy dudes.
These are some real scummy people. And they do terrible things, as we mentioned. And one of those I teased was the drugs. And that could have been a joke about pretty much any raider group in Fallout where they drug people to keep them under their control.
But that is also something that they do at Gomorrah. And they'll do it with their employees. So the sex workers, for example, they keep them docile and keep them working by drugging them. And what they do is they give them the drugs for free, right, at first.
They warm them up. They make them very happy and addicted. And then they start charging them for the drugs. And on top of charging them for these drugs...
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Okay, well, I'll go on about some stuff here. So one of the things that... Oh, I mean, if it's okay, I can just continue. Okay, just continue then.
Go ahead. Okay, so on top of charging them for more cams, right, now that they're addicted, they also lower the workers' wage over time without really telling them. They just lower them. So they're charging them for the addiction that they created, and then they're lowering what they pay overall.
It's like the way that the products we buy hide the fact that inflation is happening by just making the packaging smaller. Have you noticed this? No. Like cereal boxes, for example, get smaller and smaller over time, but they do it incrementally so you don't notice it.
Wow, yes, it is like that. Yeah, or like bags of chips. They'll put just slightly less chips in the bag, but they'll keep the bag the same size. Yeah, so eventually it just becomes all air.
But you don't really notice it over time until one day you just look at it and you're like, why is this thing only half full? And it's because there's just less chips in the bag. They changed the numbers, like, oh, this only has 1.6 ounces, when it used to have 1.9 ounces. Yeah, that sort of thing happens.
Yeah. Anyway, that's a weird analogy, but... It's a cruel world out there. Let's go with me.
Putting less chips in bags. Yeah. Yeah, well, that's what happens when you end up working for, you know, gangsters who run a casino. Wait a minute.
That's like every casino. Are all casinos run by gangsters? I mean, if you look back at the history of Las Vegas, a lot of them were. I can't say all of them were, but a lot of them were.
And that was part of the appeal for Mr. House about, particularly, these guys, was that they reminded him of old Vegas. Old Vegas. Classic Vegas.
Classic Vegas. Yeah. Let's bring in the real gangsters and just have them run the casinos. Yeah.
So these...One last thing. Just about you guys. Just about the things they do when running the casino. If you gamble and you owe them some money, right, you have a little bit of debt, and you don't pay it back in a timely manner, what do you think they do?
They give you an extension, and they just increase the percentage that you need to pay back on your loan. That would be lovely. Uh-huh. They kill you.
Oh, oh, oh, they take it out of your hide. Obviously, they kill you. Got it. Yeah.
So these are some rough pals. Rough skeevy dudes. You can get on their good side. Some what?
Rough skeevy dudes. Rough skeevy dudes. Indeed. So how do you get on their good side?
Well, you help them out. You do jobs for them. You do, yeah. Well, because eventually they like you enough that if you start murdering people inside the casino, they don't care so much.
They have a bunch of hired muscle, right? So the idea is that the whole place is guarded. And if you just go in and start shooting, right, you'll get murdered. Or you just murder all of them.
So in one of my playthroughs, I got to the casino, and I knew that they're all just skeevy dudes. So I just marched right up to all the important guys, and I just shot them all in the head. I mean, literally, once I played through, I think it was like two times, I realized that they were just basically taking advantage of all their workers, especially all the women. And I was just like, all right, I'm not playing with these dudes.
And I just walk in, and they're like, hey, what do you do with pal? You know, they start doing their tough guy stuff. And I just was like, you know, surrounded by all of them in the lobby area, like where you like all the, you know, uh, machines are and like the tables and everything. And there's, there's a point in which you see, like, I don't know, some of like the main guys all just kind of out there talking.
I don't remember what specifically. It's been a while. This is, I'm thinking back 10 or 12 years at this point, but there's a point in which you kind of are there surrounded by some of the main guys and I just, you know, turned on vats and was just like, Hey, guess what? Headshot, headshot, headshot, headshot.
And then I just buffed myself up with a bunch of healing stuff and just killed all the guards and just played it really smart and then ran through the hotel and took out everybody who I could and then got up to where Nero was killed Nero and basically took out the whole hotel. Um, and murdered everybody. And that was it. And I didn't do any of the side quests.
I didn't do any of their stuff. I just murdered everybody. That's pretty funny. That's a good story.
When I mentioned, uh, when my friends that I was talking about the Gomorrah on this episode, they were like, wow, that's like the best casino for going in and shooting everyone. That's the first thing they said. Um, did you know that if you shoot the cashier, right? Who gives you the chips and you get chips from, uh, they don't respond.
And so then you just destroyed the casino essentially. You just can't do anything. You can't do it anymore. Yeah.
So the other thing, the other thing you find out, there's, there's the quest line, how little we know, which is where you start to really understand what's going on with Nero and you find out that he, and I don't want to spoil too much of So, well, in terms of dealing with other groups other than the Legion, right, in the wastes, this is particularly for the NCR, but this applies to almost every group except for the Great Khans. They just try to avoid them. They want to stay out of the way because any other group, any other major group in the wasteland, is a threat to their venture, their mission to obtain power and control. So if they are messing with the NCR, it's like the NCR might try to step on their toes, right?
So they have to try to stay under wraps a little bit. Operation, yes, that's the word I was looking for. Thank you, Sixer. So yeah, so for the most part, the Omertas want to be on their own.
They don't want anyone to bother them, except I mentioned for the Great Khans. But this was a long time ago. So when Mr. House first brought together the three gangs that make up the casinos that now take control of this casino strip, they had to clear the area first to start renovating these casinos and making them useful again.
Useful? What is it? Utilizable again. Usable.
I'm a thesaurus at this point. I'm just throwing words out. So in order to clear the area, they had to get Great Khans out of the area. And so working together, they were able to remove them by attacking them, of course, to get them from the area and then push them out to the northeast, where in the game, that's where some of the Great Khans are located.
And so they stay there permanently. So it's interesting to think of how before the events of the game, how the different groups have moved each other around. You see a little bit of that in 76. I remember when we were talking about the different gangs, how sometimes they migrate from different areas and sometimes they try to take over whole areas of the map, right?
But depending on what other groups are doing, it encroaches on their space. Right. Yeah. In the designing of the game, the actual physical space of the game is very well thought out, whether it's in New Vegas or Fallout 76, as to in geographical terms, how groups migrated and where they would have needed to be or had moved in reference to the movements of other groups and what that would have caused.
You know, this group took over this area and so therefore this other group would have moved here. And so they would have claimed this land or this location, but then this group would have moved here and claimed this, which would have pushed this other group over here. So you would have still had remnants of this group here, but then they would no longer have been there. So they would have moved here, which is why you find, just like you do in real life, stacks of history on top of history in some locations.
You'll find like a reference to something in a place that no longer has that group there sometimes. So, yes. Well said. Yeah.
Yeah. So I want to go over what's like if you were to walk on in to Gamora. What are you going to experience, right? And so first off, when you walk through the door, just like any of the other casinos, you have to leave your weapons behind.
You can't take them with you. They will not allow you to carry them inside. But if you are if you're sneaky about it, you might be able to get a couple in. That's right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And this requires the right stats to do. But you can small weapons. I believe you can hide.
Yeah. So you can't go breaking like a machine gun in. Right. Right.
But maybe like a like a knife of some sort, maybe something else. A pistol. You could bring a pistol. A pistol.
Yeah. So, yeah. So you leave your weapons behind and then you walk on in. And in terms of ambience, you come across all sorts of different kinds of people.
This is the only casino on the strip that accepts ghouls. They employ ghouls, both as bartenders and sex workers. And then additionally, they allow ghouls to come in and have fun, which is not something that anyone else does. You know, they just want to make that money from everybody.
Right. Well, I think it's a great marketing move, because if no one else is taking ghouls in, then the ghouls have to go there. Right. Why?
It seems silly to not let ghouls come to your establishment. Yeah. Well, we'll talk about the gormunds next time. So, yeah.
So ghouls are welcome. And that's that's fun. So you're going to encounter all sorts of people, both in terms of who they have employed and who you might encounter enjoying the establishment. As I mentioned before, this place leans heavily into its name.
And so this is a very sinful place. And unlike other casinos where you walk in and they try to come off as a little less scandalous, a little more classy. Right. A little ritzy, even Gamora is a very dark place.
And you're likely to walk around and encounter beds with silk sheets and scantily clad women and all sorts of alcohol and chems. And of course, you can gamble. And in terms of gambling, you can play blackjack and roulette and slots. So that's pretty fun.
And you can earn prizes. Right. And so you can get things like brahmin steak, their chems or alcohol. Or if you really are doing great, if you're having a good night, you can get some armor.
So very exciting. Very fun. And then I have I have one last fun fact to wrap this all up. The music used in Gamora was originally used in Fallout 2.
Ta-da. Ta-da. I think the name is like Serenity or something is the name of the song. I didn't write it down, so I could be making that up.
OK, I think it's called Serenity and it's a song that was in Fallout 2 and they reused it for Gamora. So pretty neat. Yeah, this is something that happens a lot in New Vegas. They'll use some of the music that they originally used in the first two games because they had access to those files.
And I guess the rights to still use those. So pretty cool stuff. Yeah, this is this is probably the casino that relates the most to old Las Vegas. You know, it's got that shady kind of actual old casino style to it.
So I don't know. What do you think? Would you would you go there just for funsies, you know, for kicks and giggles? Yeah, it's definitely got that shady vibe.
It's, you know, once. Yeah. Just to see. Just, you know.
Yeah. Funsies. Yeah, funsies. Funsies.
Don't anything to get yourself murdered. Yeah, I think the gormons earlier I meant the white glove society, but you guys, you guys know what I meant. Oh yeah, the gormons. That's the one.
That's the restaurant. Gamora is the other group that we've similar. Anyway, they start all. Everything just starts to blend together.
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Don't ask me. Don't ask me. Yeah. You know, there's we could.
There's so much more information we could go into in future episodes about some of the specific characters. But I think that some of that stuff is more character analysis focused than than we really need to go into on this episode. How do you feel about the layout of the casino? It's not the most attractive.
It's like four floors, right? It's like four. Yeah. It's like it's not very it's not particularly large.
I mean, it's kind of so I find this casino to be the most maze like. It's not particularly pleasant to walk around in. There's kind of hallway. Lots of hallways.
There's the areas with like the dance clubs and things are not particularly attractive. The the outside areas have like these like the courtyard has like yeah, these weird tents and plants, but it's not. It's not like it's got like nice plants or I don't know, like water people aren't going there to be visually impressed by the scenery. They're not.
But it's not that scenery. You know, it's not the scenery and focus. Right. There's the Zora Club, which is like the dance club, which is kind of scummy.
But it's I don't know. It's got like the old carpet, the old what looks like 1960s like carpet with like the big squares in like reds and yellows and orange colors. It just there isn't a whole lot of upkeep going on, but it makes sense for this being that kind of club, you know, like, you know what I'm saying? Like the Omeras just take it over and they just kind of want to make as much money as they can with the least amount of upkeep.
And that's what's going on here. The White Glove Society. You walk into that place and we'll talk maybe we'll talk about them on the next one. Like that's some fancy stuff.
Like you go in there and it's a very fancy place. This place is like, it's about as cheap as it gets. Like, this is I don't know if anybody, anybody listening to this has been to Las Vegas recently, but there is a significant difference between like the modern casinos, like the big modern casinos, the new ones that are out there, the really nice ones, the ones that are the big places you go to on the strip, and the older ones that are kind of off strip, the ones that have been around for 40, 50 years that are just, they just haven't been kept up and they look like they're frozen in