You are now listening to the UK and the world's favourite wrestling podcast. Archie and wrestling with your host Andy and Emma. Well, well, well, press record, did it? You pressed record.
Did it? How are you? I got that first. Am I right?
Yeah, I'm tired. Yeah. I just feel like... Why come?
Yeah, yeah. Same. But, you know, the reason why we're doing this early is because we're having some time off. Oh, yeah.
So that should be fun. But yeah, other than that, I'm alright. I've not watched as much wrestling as I've wanted to. I know there was a New Japan show on today, but I had so many things to do today.
I felt like... And I did them in quite a short space to time. So I felt like I was all over it. I still got one more thing to do tonight.
I might do it tomorrow morning actually. What is that? What do you want to say? Yeah, I fill out my funding application for college.
And that's like literally the last thing. I could leave that to come back, but then it'd be on my mind the whole time. So I'm just going to get up reasonably early tomorrow, get it done, watch these New Japan shows, because I'll have two bats, bats, bats, and watch it, and then we can float away. But yeah, pretty good.
I think the wrestling I've watched this week has been great. Do you know what? You know, I'd say this in hush tones in certain corners of society at the moment. It's really a taboo subject, but I nearly didn't.
Nearly watched Raw. Why is that? Because you were up. Yeah, looking back today.
No, no, no, not even that would. It was just like a loose end. Would you talk? Would you put it all around?
No. It's one o'clock in the morning, it's Tuesday, one o'clock in the morning, you just like that? No, I don't put it all around. No, but you said, obviously, listen to the Al Rush show and a few other things that we had on Raw this week, a 27-minute wrestling main event, which was apparently very good.
And I am in the mode of picking matches out. So I did. Do you want to try to watch AW Live last night in fellas late? No, it was late.
Well, yeah, but I've been... Most of the time anyway, but yeah, just... But it wasn't because of the quality of the show, because the show was really good, and got back and watched it today. But yeah, nearly watched.
It was McIntyre Styles and Riddle in like a triple threat match when it gets into Money and Bank. And I heard it was very good. And yeah, because I've been picking matches out, I was kind of all men are in. Because I did watch the North American title match from NXT this week, which we can talk about later.
And now I've just been kind of picking and choosing the other thing. The other thing hasn't been great that I've watched, which I won't rag on because it's not fair, because I think there's reasons why some of the things I've seen haven't been very good. But I have, rather than watching like full hour two hour long shows, I've been picking matches. The ones out there telling me the big, the other good one I've been going for, and some of them have been hit and miss.
I think that's a better way of doing it, rather than watching like full shows. I think the only full shows I'm going to watch now are pay per views, which could be anybody's pay per view. I'm dynamite. Because I do enjoy dynamite from start to finish.
Whereas NXT I don't enjoy from start to finish. Probably because of my own bias because it does really piss me off at times. But I do what I do enjoy is that quarter of an hour, that 20 minute snippet of their main event. Or what if I've been told something's good enough to watch it.
So I think that's quite a good way of doing it because you don't get the, and again, I don't want to rag on. We do really like straight away. Because I want this one to be a little bit more positive, hopefully. But yeah, you don't get that sort of fatigue, the WWE fatigue, which is its own and anybody watches it, it will know.
You know, like Raw, for example, is like a two hour and a half, two hours, 25 minutes, minus the adverts show. If it's not very good, if there's bits of it that aren't very good and aren't engaging, you get tired very quickly, especially if you're from the UK and you're trying to watch it. And it's even the day after all you've stayed up to try and watch it. So I think just snippets is going to be worthwhile.
So I'll probably will at some point, if there's, I'll probably leave it this for this week. I won't watch the Raw thing from this week. But if I get told this is worth your time, then I'm going to watch What's Worth My Time and just kind of, yeah, nipping it out like that. Because I'm not interested in the sports entertainment storyline, the style of shit that I get that with AW.
Enough, that's like it as much as I want it. But I don't, I'm not watching fucking full shows. But I think it'd be still worth dipping your toe if there's a good one. Because there's a bit of few times when I've heard like, oh, this match was good, or that match was good, or, no, not segments.
I'm not asked about fucking Miss TV or anything like that. But if there's a good match, I need to see the good match. Because I didn't watch a frame of hell in the cell. And apparently there was a few good matches on that.
So I think that's a good way to do it picking it out. Anyway, enough about me. I'm talking about me, how are you? I'm okay, reuniting for me, Vape.
As everyone can hear. Vape City. Population, you bro! Okay, so I haven't watched any wrestling this week.
Final week for the holiday. I've watched nothing since our last podcast, nothing. So I don't have a lot to contribute. You do.
What? You do. I can react to what's happened. But I don't know what's happened, apart from the odd shit I've seen on Twitter.
Yeah, but what you don't know is we've got quite a bit of time off now. Yeah. You're getting a new Japan Crash Course. You think that we're going to be going on walks and shit.
Have they introduced vaginas into it? No. They are actually. Wrestling!
No. I don't care! They've reintroduced one vagina. That is like the worst.
I was going to sort it with their foot off. That would be the final nail in the coffin. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, the Tokyo Pimp's got his girlfriend back.
Oh, man. Which you can kind of guess where that is. I'm not joking. I'm sure it's great.
I'm sure it's great. Oh, it is. I know you can. I don't do Japan and watch it and I'd have a lovely time.
But I'm not interested in watching any of the shows. No. It's just a wrestling show. It's just pure wrestling, which I fucking love.
But yeah, other than that, obviously, you know, final day, work today, we're off tomorrow. Yep. You feeling good? Feeling ready?
Yeah, I am. I think so. I think I am. Ready for some time off.
I'll be ready. I'll be happy when I'm there. Yeah, because you've worked like a fucking dog for a long time now. I've done things like clothes with that top or properly or at least had a day away from it in a long time.
Yeah. I'm going to go. I'm not going to score by who I am. Fuck.
You've got kids. Oh, God. Am I going to take mine though? Should I take mine for like films if you want to watch films?
It's entirely up to you. Because you know that in those B&Bs, in the Lake District, it's just going to be terrestrial TV. I don't think I've got free view in those bitches. If terrestrial TV is even a thing.
Well, we never, the thing is, and this is really interesting for you guys. But as always, we need to make our life decisions live on air. Yeah. There's two ways that I see this trip going because obviously the B&Bs stop.
We're not going to be sat watching films, but we've got a house later, you know, we're going to, you know, that's where we've got a little bit more time. The only thing we're maybe going to watch on TV is the England game if we can't watch it somewhere. Because there's about two pubs in the whole of the place we're going to. Okay.
So I don't believe that we're going to get even close to any of those pubs. I'll tell you right now. I'll give a shit. About the England game.
No. Couldn't be before. I couldn't be before. I was like in the Lake District, being a pub.
Now that would be awesome. Yeah. Yeah, but I'm away because I wasn't asked about the Germany game really. Like I watched it because it's.
I was going to say that I was going to go, oh, we played Germany. Oh, played Germany. Wow. I feel really bad because this is like the first time that there's been like a major tournament.
I'm not bothered. Usually I watch every minute of every match and I'm really into it. But I just, I think it's a bit with everything like NBA playoffs are happening. I'm not really.
Isn't it funny? Just, just, I think I've just took a step back for Joe. I'll tell you right now, we were just fucking counting. They ruined it for me.
No, I'm joking. Do you know what I thought? I thought that I thought that would be very bad. No, I know.
So did I. So did I. It's not as bad as you. But like, you know, my dad, for example, has always been a big arm chair football fan like forever.
And he's always, you know, he's a Manchester United fan. And he's always, you know, he's always loved watching football. And you'll watch any game, you know, he's quite like Everton as well. Like, you know, watch anything.
And the last couple of times I spoke to him, he's like, oh, this is like the lack of crowds has just put me off sport this year. It's just not felt the same. And he's not, he's said that it's like been the least enjoyable year of football. And very man, he's an arm chair fan.
He never goes. He doesn't miss being in the live crowd. But he's missed that live crowd so much that he's not been asked. And this is someone who's like 60 something.
Yeah. So then he's like taking it back to wrestling. Yeah. It's little one, I don't know, crowds are coming back now.
But there's like a really weird disconnect I've got with full capacity crowds in AWS. I'm really disconnected with it. I think because we're not back yet. Yeah, we don't.
Yeah, you kind of, yeah. I'm not jealous of them. It's not like a feeling of, oh, I'm really resentful of it. It just feels like I'm watching a show from two years ago.
I don't feel like I'm in the present because we're seen in this country so far from that. Well, I'm interested of like a few people that I used to know that kind of follow Instagram. And yeah, I'm really through county went to the England, Germany game. Right.
And I was like, holy fuck. And I kind of looked at it and said, yeah, you can. You're allowed to. And I thought, oh my God, how do I wonder what Hoopsie has to jump through to do that.
And then I thought, no, fuck it. I mean, you know, it's just, I think it's just going to take a little while, isn't it? I think as soon as you know, the big international stuff starts happening like the old AEW coming over, things like fucking Elton John, resuming his tour, resuming his yellow brick road, final goodbye to this tour's been going on for a while. Yeah, I did some stadiums.
I was going to say some stadiums now. Okay. He's doing everyone just to hear instead of Elton John. Everyone's interested in Elton.
He's not the old. Is it? Yeah, I think so. That'd be a crazy one to be able to.
An old tentored, I was tentored. Well, I don't like a stadium. You don't like a stadium. Oh, Elton John is stadium though.
Where's the rolling stones in the stadium? We're seeing spring, standing, standing, both of them. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Well, the scouts as well. A lot of great times. Yeah, I do. He's not doing a Manchester.
Oh, come on, Chester. No. One Chester sucks. And he's not doing Manchester.
You know, he is doing Manchester. Oh, yeah, because I was like 75 quid for that row. And I was like, I think we're all cool for the talk about Elton John. Listen, listen to a wrestling podcast.
We're all in the same role in the same role. Guys, that is a man there. That is a man right there. That's a man's man.
He's a man's man. Literally a man's man. He's a man's man. He's the ultimate man's man.
He's a man for man. He really is. That is a talented motherfucker. But, um, yeah, I've got to say, if it was like, I mean, money doesn't, the money's not the issue, but I'd be, I'd just get in the building.
If he's doing a stadium show, I genuinely think we should have a book. Yeah. It's 2022, it's actually. It'd be awesome.
Like trips to Liverpool. I feel like a w is going to be Liverpool. What? Liverpool Arena.
If he did a UK tour, he's the right place. I don't think they're going to do, this is the thing, right? I don't think a w are going to do arenas in the UK to start with. I think they will do for the tape show, but it'll be like an NXT.
I think the first one, if they, you know, because obviously it's going to be announced very soon, it's going to be November. Obviously, because why would they be miles-wise? We know this. If they come out and say, right, here's the UK tour and it's like, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to go through this?
If they come out and say, right, here's the UK tour, it's like five days and all arenas, I'd be like, right, they go fucking going for this. There's no. Because obviously there's loads of things that they do like the put feelers out there, you know, how many tickets, you know, if people have subscribed to ITV or whatever, or the AW UK tour, if there is one. That's not going to be me.
I don't think there's going to be many people in the UK side up to heels because if you work, you're not going to be- You're not going to be staying up until three o'clock to get brandy roads is make-up's tutorial when you've got a presentation in the morning. It's just not going to happen. But yeah, if they came out and was like, it was all arenas. I'd be like, right, okay, okay, we're having to go here, which is what I want them to do, I want them to go.
But I've got a feeling it'll be a bit TNA-y, a bit NXT, when it first kind of started, when it first came over to the UK, and it's like black pool less shows, and then it'll build up to the arena show at the end of it. So it might be things like it's only where else, it might be the Olympia, in the pool, it'll be a few things, because at the very, you know, arrow H from the past, ready on that roster. They all know where they used to go for the arrow H tours, everything like that. So I think there will be a little bit of that, but then there'll be the TV tape, which will be probably SSE in London.
I think that's the only one I really want, unless they did black pool. I know it depends on what we do. It depends on what we do. To me, it depends what we do.
If it's a meeting great, if you can buy a meeting great, and it's, you know, it's the case, because I think, you know, it was going to London, because right now, if we were still in the Chicago boat, that Chicago week is looking insane now. So you've got like, I think you've got Dynamite on the Wednesday, you've got Rampage on the Friday, and you've got all in, all out, sorry, on the Sunday. So it's a bit like a WrestleMania week, where there's a lot of stuff going on, there's meeting greets going on. So that's looking more like a reasonable package now.
And they've moved the Boston one, so the Wednesday, I don't know if they're staying to do it on Wednesday, so that's like a fourth show they're doing in Chicago, I'm not sure, but the show, they'll dynamite after the pay per view was Boston. That's been moved because the university needs the places of vaccine center. But it's only been moved by two weeks. So I think they're going back possibly to daily's place on that one, and then going back on the road again.
But yeah, I really don't know. In some of the announcements, anything you've thought knows, but yeah, seeing live crowds come back, because I did enjoy watching the England game with the crowds there. But if we can get into a pub or sit on the outside of it or whatever, if there is places that are showing it and it's full and it's a reasonable atmosphere, then maybe, because it's quite an early kick off. What is it?
So I don't know if what I've been a fucking pub Aicorp, people I've been drinking all day, it's Saturday again. Yeah, I'm just a thing. I'm just a fucking hammer. Just imagine we could be sat on the bed in the B&B, I could have a mug of wine from those little sheet of cups you get.
You look like a couple of fucking tea bags and a biscuit. Yeah. And I could have that with a little bit of wine in and we could sat on the bed watching it. Well, could we actually watch it, though?
It'll be an ITV or BBC. Good point. I'd much rather do that. Yeah, well, I'm happy doing that.
Yeah, yeah. By that time, I'll probably have places all the way up to my asshole. So jumping around the pub. But we'll see.
We'll play by it. Where are we going to be on Saturday for the? Amble side. Amble side.
Yeah, there's all the two pubs. I literally looked at them at me for the two pubs. They both have the both of it. The roughest fuck.
That's what you want to be in there. You want to be in there with the gammons. You've got to all in. I'm all in.
Yeah. Can you imagine what, oh, god, this is so boring for everyone. Imagine why I wind a bit. I bet windowbait is fucking banging, though, because that's where everyone goes.
Well, we could always have a, we could take the boat across and then just walk back. I mean, it's a bit. I have a boat. I just row our asses back.
You know that? Paddle boarding back. Don't be fucking funny. A bit pestler.
England. No, no. I'm dead. I'll be phoned to go in the water.
Yeah, right. Listen, this is so boring for everybody, but yes, we're going to the late district and it's going to be marvelous. Hopefully. Yes.
We do have to just make a comment on our fallen soldier. Now. Okay. Go on.
Well, I didn't have much more to say. Pat Maxwell, J. Mo, is our fallen soldier who's been banned from Twitter again. Again, I believe.
So he'll be listening to this on analog. Don't joke, obviously. But yeah, so we, you know, just like, you know, we're thinking of you, Axel. Yeah, man.
Are you banned for life, mate? I don't know. You can't. You can't.
Feel free to say what. So thank you for trying to say anything Freddie and LP saying something and see that it's not offensive. If you emailed it to us, it's ridiculous. Yeah.
Insane. Absolutely insane. It's clearly something like algorithm. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. As I picked up on what, what may have been the cause, but it's so fucking stupid. I mean, it's clearly a bot.
It's a bot decision. Yeah. It's not like a real decision. It's not like a real decision.
Well, you have, you have a couple of weeks ago for fucking, you must have put your own list? Did he say like, he was just looking forward to say. Yeah, yeah. Looking forward to say anything.
I don't think someone's just like reporting him. All the four of us may ask it. No. Thinking of you, Axel, we missed you on Twitter.
So we have been followed by an account that says, it came up as an actual straight away. And I was like, is it? But I'll be a thirsty bitch. And I'll go DM sliding into the DM straight away.
How freaking am I? Is that you, Axel? Is that you? Is that you?
Well, yes, it is me. My name is Axel. That's one of my main chatters on Twitter. And I don't have access to that email.
I did. I think you did read it though. Yeah, you did show me. But yeah, hopefully you're back to me.
So we should we get into it? Should we get going? Yeah, it's the longest intro in the world. Hello, everyone, and welcome once again.
So, RTM wrestling, is this episode 164? Yeah, I think so. 164. Crazy.
Hope you're all well. Hope you're all safe. Hope you're all back to normal now, which is what it seems like for a lot of people. 19 for July, bebe.
Is that what it is? Yeah, it's interesting. Well, my name's Andy. If you didn't know this.
My name's Gemma. And we do a wrestling podcast. You may not know this from the intro to the show this week, but we do a wrestling podcast where we talk about all things to do wrestling. Walking with thousands.
I've been like districts. I'm not sure if we, I'm not sure if we'd, like, got Britney Mikes in the podcast on a walk. A passage. From the old styles.
No, I'm not spending 300 quid on it. It's not happening. Oh, yeah. Hope you're all good.
And this is the show this week, let's start off. And I think we're probably gonna end with the news as well, because I've not got a lot going on this week. I got a lot of news though, it's quite one. Probably the best news of the week.
Made me chuckle. WWE chairman and CEO Vince McMahon is reportedly set to scout talent this week. Where is he scouting talent from? I hear everyone ask from the WWE Performance Center in Orlando.
Now a lot of side note on this is he was supposed to be going today, Thursday? Yes. He was supposed to be going Thursday, but because of all the troubles that they've had in the past with the Performance Center, with people coming in and rubbing their dicks up against the door, you know, trying to attack people, stalking people, things like that. But they've now said it isn't Thursday, it could be any day.
Okay, just to eat. Not even everyone a day. Yeah, just to get out of here. Yeah, because at first it was like he is going on Thursday at 9am and it's like, okay, yeah, there's going to be a few nutcases there if that was a case.
And then I think we've obviously had a few more inquiries than they normally would have in the Performance Center and they've tripled security. So NXT Champion carrying cross, North American Champion, wasn't it? It wasn't this time. The time of rides, anyways, Ronson Reed, Scarlet, and Shotzi Blackout have all appeared recently at Raw and SmackDown shows to work dark matches and main event tapings.
It's got to be more embarrassing than a dark match with No Crowd. Yeah, before Raw, you're doing a dark match and it's literally just so Vince can watch you. No pressure. No pressure at all.
So that officials, obviously Vince, could get a look at him for potential main roster call drops. Now these appearances are part of a major scouting effort to replenish WWE's main roster, which has been hit recently with releases. Like it's this fucking, we're going to scout, we're going to go out and get some talent for this main roster because we're looking a bit thin and we're like, yeah, because you're just fucking let everybody go. It was noted that the major scout, listen, who the fuck wrote this?
The major scouting effort, right? Because I retweeted this story saying as this is a new story, does this mean that Vince McMahon has never been to the performance of the before? I was saying it like, you know, noted the major scouting effort has led to influential names coming to the performance center to scout talent, major scouting effort. That'd be like me putting fucking a TV in the bedroom and saying, you know, I'm going to go and I don't even fucking know.
I literally can't get any words out there. Major scouting effort. Oh, with all these talent that we've hoarded for the last three years, we're now going to go and watch them at our own facility. And Chris, it's not our own talent.
Yeah, it's weird. Like, bitch, you know, it'll save you my trip to Orlando, just turn on the network and watch a few NXT's. I'm just fucking lying them up. Yeah.
I can just lie in a what like usual suspect style and in just walking to a room where they can't see him through one of those mirror things. And he just goes, that one, that one and that one. I will do that one. 28 or two old.
Okay, next five. Doesn't matter how they wrestle. But what do you do as well? If they don't pick you?
So it's the same as like a major scouting initiative. And as they go in there and they go NXT again, just take everybody that they want. And then it, because if the NXT have announced that they're doing this fucking tournament, this breakout start tournament, I literally did last year, but that's going to be, that's literally just going to be the showcase for the people that Vince wants to have a look at for the main roster. Who's NXT got that he would want?
That guy lost. That's the guy who's the guy who lost his belt. Well, that's a wee ones. Bronzer Reed.
Yeah. So he's gone. He's up. I can't really think of anyone else.
Kerry and Cross. Yeah. I feel like he likes Kerry and Cross. But then when he sees Kerry and Cross around the big boys, I just feel like he's going to go, oh.
Well, Kerry and Cross is a big guy. Like he's not like fucking 5'10. He's at least 6'3", so he's a big fucking dude. And the guy that the Addams squash on main event, you know, was a reasonably sized guy.
But he's a bit guy, but he's just not. He's not a fucking Kane or an undertaker size, but he's still pretty big. But all this, right, this major scouting initiative says John Laurenitis and fucking, it was the other one, Bruce Pritchett. Don't like Bruce Pritchett.
They'll look at any of them. He'll take one look at Bronzer Reed and he'll be coming out as a fucking sous chef, like the week after. So, and they'll change his names. But, you know, performing matches in front of John Laurenitis and Bruce Pritchett and they're just going to sit there and watch it like they're watching a show.
What? They've got takeovers. They've got in front of fans. They've got so much shit to look at them, but they're going to go there and they're going to make these people perform in front of them.
It just, it seems like the oddest thing. Yeah, it's odd for this range. But anyway, anyway, I just thought it was just funny, it's like this is such a major news story that Vince is going to the performance center, his own fucking performance center. So, scouts aren't.
I mean, what the fuck's going on? What's going on? What is going on? Anyway, point two, AAA news for you, AEW stars, Penta and Phoenix will be on the triple mainia show to defend the world tag team titles.
It's already been announced at Jungle Boy then. Kenny Omega and Andrade, they're going to have a triple A World Tag match as well. They've also announced that they're going to be giving the Marvel Lucha Libre X Vision again, which I've not seen, but I want to see. Brian Cage's Thanos, like literally, like they play Marvel.
The play character. Yeah, so Brian Cage was Thanos. Leo Lush was Spiderman, which you can totally see. Yeah.
Because of the way he moves in. I hope he's all right, he's supposed to be retired, isn't he? But this was last year, he might not be trying to handle this shit. But it was quite a few.
It was, well, I am really looking forward to that show. But they can't have a bull crowd. They can only have a couple of thousand, which is a shame. I'm sort of the downsizing the venue.
Anyway, it was still because I'm looking forward to that later on this year. Number three, number three is now getting us talking. Because I am really interested to hear what your thoughts are on this. WWE Hall of Famer, Bully Ray has come down hard on AEW star Eddie Kingston for taking several shots at WWE Saturday night after Dynamite went off the air.
Addressing the crowds of days, place Kingston said that's unlike the competition, AEW loves professional wrestling, listens to its fanbase and respects his legends. Ray pre-fraced his criticism by praising Kingston's promo skills. He said, and I quote, I love it and I've listened to this as well. I love Eddie Kingston to death.
If we were having promo wars and I was the captain of the team and suddenly said you get a pick one person to the promo for you, it'd most likely be Eddie because of his believability tone, inflection and everything about him. But in this case, Eddie needs to shut the fuck up, quote, and stay in his lane. And his lane is an AEW guy speaking about AEW and flying the flag for AEW, then I'm completely on board. I'm not a great AEW, he's a fly the flag for your company, showing that you wear your heart and your sleeve.
Then, Eddie Kingston recently appeared on a WrestleZone podcast and discussed it and he said, let's get the question out of the way. Let's all calm down, you think I'm going to bury the locker room that I work for? No, plus I love our locker room, I love AEW, what do you want from me? They're paying me, they're putting me on national television after 20 years in October.
So of course I'm going to go rah rah aEW, relax guys, relax. So from hearing that, what do you think about this? Because I've got a few comments. Will you ready to work for the WWE Store?
No. Well then why's he asked? That'd be my point, why are you bothered? Why are you going, that's like, I used to work on the tells at Tesco, right?
I used to be a checkout gal. And it would be like me if, I don't work there anymore. It'd be like me if someone from Booth started to say, we're better than Tesco. We listen to you, we listen to you because we're for the community and we're for our customers.
Not like the competition and I go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You're sucking Tesco off for? I don't have any lane moves. I don't have fucking arse in the race.
Why am I defending, I used to wear the little badge and their little checkered shirt. And yeah, would you like any help with your back in sir? Just like boy rated? Yeah.
Would you like any help with your back in sir? Men's. Men's. Men's with yourself.
But it's like, why's he asked? I just, if I'd be all fathomable why you would be so bothered when you don't work there anymore. And let's say you did, let's say you did work there. Say what someone who does work there.
Yeah. And said, oh stop it, stop it you. It's like, guys, chill. You're working with the most profitable, you've got to say most profitable, yeah.
This company isn't even looking at your door anymore. Do you know why? Because this, the WWE has stopped bothering my wrestling. Fully, publicly, they don't care anymore.
So why, it's like, again, we said it so many times, apples and oranges. Like it doesn't matter what, A.W., you can literally, J.R. name them. They can name them.
They can say it and say it and say, they're shit. They're fucking shit. So we fucking ain't fucked the WWE. We're not going to go out with fuck WWE tops on.
What the fuck does it matter? In the same way, as I say, it moves or will co. It came out with fuck Tesco tops on. Don't think it's bothering the CEO of Tesco very much.
I don't think they're asked. I think you've got a bigger fish to fry. And do you know what I find? I know, I will obviously, I will let you talk.
That's why. What I find really, really sad is Ex-talent who I've nothing to do with company anymore, who goes back for it. I find that tragic. It makes me feel sorry for them.
So I always like think when someone like, when he comes out of the way, he comes out and says that, I feel sorry for him. I'm like, oh, are you trying to get back in? Are you trying to get back in? I know.
Are you poor? Are you out of money? She definitely hasn't. She needs to go to this fucking radio show.
I just find it tragic. I find it really tragic. Let them. And I'd say that about whether it was ROH, TNA, whoever the hell wants to say, fuck WWE.
Which Eddie Kingston didn't say? He just said the competition. No. So does that.
So it was obvious to everybody who he was talking about. Of course. But I've got many points about this and many different angles. Let me finish that.
So go for it. Plus Eddie Kingston. Again, I have a few angles too. Eddie Kingston has said all that shit to the crowd after the show.
It was AEW's choice to put that up. So going after Eddie Kingston and being kind of like, it's an Eddie Kingston versus bully raving. It isn't. It's not Eddie Kingston's problem.
What you say when that show is off air, yeah, the camera's still rolling. But what you say is between you and the crowd. And AEW, I think, probably, I think it screwed it by putting it up. And I think that it was a bit like, I do kind of judge them a bit for putting that up because I get Eddie for saying it.
I get the roster for saying it because they're hungry and they're like, Eddie said, they're getting paid and they're going to champion it. It's your choice as a brand whether you want to do that, which is going to, you know, it depends what you're after. If you're after that sort of like mad backlash from the WWE fans to be talked about and have created massive arguments on social media, well done, you've done it. But there's an element that is a bit like, if you're the brand, I think the brand should stay classy.
I think the people who say it should say what they like. Yeah. So it's wrestling about fucking fucking burning city, you know, like that's the whole point. So Eddie getting pulled into it, I think it's a tad unfair.
Yeah. And that's I'll let you go. Well, that was literally my first point. I'm sorry.
No, don't be kidding. No, don't be kidding. My point is, is that he said it to the crowd when he thought he was off air. He didn't know did be filming.
He didn't say that because he doesn't want to bury. That's why I get from that. I don't want to bury the guys in the locker room. So it's not his decision where it goes up.
So that's first thing. The second thing is why is so to me, like bully ray, you don't from, because I've watched the clip as well to try and see if I could get context and I can't. So I can't get context from what bully ray is saying. What's your name?
So is he telling Eddie Kingston to shut the fuck up because that's the line that got my back up. And you know, we swear like sales on this, but to tell someone to shut the fuck up and stay in their lane is like to me, he's putting somebody on the head because he goes on. So there's quite a few bits. There's two main bits that I think was unnecessary because I went and I listened to a good deal.
I thought it was a good 10 minutes of this run because it's quite a long run. I don't quite think it was 10 minutes, but it was a lot longer than what I said on there. So my first, so yeah, let's get this first tacked out the way first. Is he, what is he saying to Eddie Kingston?
What are you saying to Sean and saying your name? Is he saying don't talk about WWE? You know, because I don't want you to do that because I want to hear more about you. I want to hear more about a w I don't want to hear you talking about it.
WWE. Now if that was the tact, then I agree because we've been saying this for fucking ages. They need to stop talking about WWE. They need to stop doing it.
And on the TV shows they have done. They haven't referenced them for a while as far as I know. But I know that WWE for me, get this in your head for me is utter garbage at the moment. Complete garbage.
I can't watch the shows. I've not been able to, I've not tried for months, but there's a reason why I've not tried. Oh, we've tried one and it's been fucking great. This is paid for views as well.
I'm just like, I have got no interest in this whatsoever. And whether that's the crowd shit, you know, whatever it is, because I, the thunder dome annoys me because it's just a load of seals clapping and you don't get to actually get their responses. You know, the WrestleMania crowd annoyed me because not the crowd annoyed me, but the annoyed me that the booked it so he'll heavy for their first crowd back. It was just a complete, every single person who bought a ticket to WrestleMania got fucked.
And the old love it, the old love game fucked. You know, because that's exactly what they do every time. They give you screwy finishes, they give you interference, you know, quarter of an hour long match, which a really good match. And then it's a mad DQ or fucking what's the name, re-erically trying to pull a thing off a table which they use all the time and it's never been a disqualification hit shallot with it by mistake, it's a DQ.
That's the sort of shit where they're taking the piss out of you. The talent are fantastic and the matches are still really good quality, but it's everything around it. That's just utter dross. So I'm with him and I don't want to hear people talking about WWE.
Now that the flip side is actually what I think. So he says you were an indie guy until AW gave you an opportunity. So that's him trying to put Eddie Kingston in his place again. So you're just an indie guy.
So I'm going mate, he was getting fucking tapped up by WWE after he made one appearance on AWTV. So just because he's not gone and done it before and he wasn't in his early 20s when he was doing the fucking mainstream TV route doesn't take away from the guy's accomplishments because he's majorly over. Now if he walks out into an arena anywhere in the world now that watches AW, the guy gets cheered out the building. So that's one thing.
The second thing is, Volirei also went on to say that he doesn't mind people like Cody Rhodes smashing the throne or Jericho talking about WWE because they were there and they can talk about WWE. And that's complete bullshit as well. Because the throne thing, it's not a thing that I was a fan of. If I was in the crowd and I hadn't seen it before and there was this throne and Cody goes and smashes the throne with a sledgehammer, fair enough.
But you're saying that you're happy that Cody did that. But actually what the fuck Triple H has to do with Cody? In his career, if you're looking at it from the outside like us, I'm sure there's loads of interactions and loads of Triple H sets and all that now, why don't you be stard or something like that. But what the fuck's that got to do with anything?
Why can't Kingston grab a mic and say? Because the thing is as well, I'll leave the second answer because that's my final point, is Eddie Kingston, yeah, he has been an indie guy all his career. He has been somebody who hasn't been on mainstream TV or anything like that. But looking at him now and looking how over he is in AW, his entire body of work whilst being in AW, what does that tell you?
It tells you somebody fucked up big time. And I've seen Eddie Kingston on ROH shows that I've watched past where he's come out and he's got a really strong reaction from the crowd. So we ain't just some fucking indie guy that AW has just happened to throw a bone. He's not like, oh, we all know this guy and he's really great, but he's alright.
But you know what, because he's mates with us, we're going to give him a chance. Fuck to know. They brought him in to do that one-off, which they did loads of one-offs with Cody to try and try people out and have all of them been signed? No.
There's only two that have had really decent pushes and that's Ricky Starks and Eddie Kingston, to my knowledge. There might be more, but I can't remember right now. I can't be fucking saying to him to stay in his lane. How utterly patronising?
He said shut the fuck up, stay in your lane, you're just an indie guy, you don't know what you're fucking talking about. But he didn't say you don't know what you're talking about. He just said you can't say shit. That's my final point.
He's saying, Eddie Kingston can't say shit because he's never been to WWE. But if Cody Rhodes came out and cut that exact same promo, he wouldn't have had an issue with it. If Jericho came out and cut that same promo, he wouldn't have an issue with it. Here's my final point, Bully Ray.
He didn't say he was fucking wrong, did you? He didn't say he was wrong, because he's not wrong. Because they do love professional wrestling. Every company will say, oh, we listen to the fans and all that sort of shit.
And you can take that with a pinch of salt, but they do love professional wrestling. They absolutely do. And you know why we know it loves professional wrestling? Because they give me a show every week, regardless of who's on it.
That includes professional fucking wrestling. And they say professional wrestling. Do you know what else was correct? So the fan base thing, I'm sure they try and listen to the fans, but not everyone can listen to the fans, because most of us are fucking morons who just bitch at the sake of bitching.
Right? You got your ice cubes out. Yeah, but right. You weren't ready and I got the wrong ones out and I just want to come through one and explode it in my face.
Oh, nice. Nice. So yeah, so the listen to the fan base thing, we can't come in on. We can't come on that.
But what we can come on is that they respect their legends. It ain't even a fucking argument. If you've got a problem with Eddie Kingston talking the truth, then say it. You personally don't think Eddie Kingston could have cut that promo because you don't respect the guy enough.
Because you don't respect the guy enough. Otherwise you wouldn't have told him to shut the fuck up and stay in his lane. He's a major star on a rival brand. You know, that's the way they see themselves as a rival because Tony Collins come out with something last two weeks.
It's competition. We're in competition with WWE. When actually they're not. And the reason why I think they're not in competition with WWE is because it's a different show.
You ain't going to get the WWE fans, guys. You're not going to get two million. Well, wb, you can't fucking get two million viewers a show now, but you ain't going to ever get two million by doing what you do now. And the reason is because there isn't that many professional wrestling fans.
There are fans of WWE who will be sat on their phone all Monday night for those two and half hours that I'll have it on. Well, they're not professional wrestling fans. They're a culmination of attitude era hang-ons fucking wrestling fans. There'll still be some that carry on watching it.