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Let's do the time walk again. That was horrible. I think the lower... Yeah, I think the lower end of the day we didn't leave with that.
Yeah, no. So we're taking an old school. We are taking an old school. My work schedule has been horrific, so I've been taking a hiatus for quite some time.
But now we are after the 2016 Comic Con, so we have some things we need to talk about. Oh, well, really? Okay. Doo doo doo doo doo.
No, like... You'll be a convention soon. No, no, no. My moral, we need to talk about this.
Okay, so I texted you about this, the Wonder Woman trailer. Yep. Actually looks really good. I like her costume.
I think some parts of it look a little bit too modern for the movie they're trying to do. Which it's where we're one-not-where-word to, which doesn't make any sense to me about, right? Oh, and by the way, we'll make an effort to say Chris Pine and not Chris Pratt this episode. Oh, we won't.
Sure. Okay. Nevermind. You don't even be somewhere and do something in like three hours.
I'm not making an effort to do anything. Like it's a Chris. Evans Pratt Pine Cross. We're gonna talk about Chris Cross.
Jell, Jell, Matt, Daddy, or Daddy Max? I was actually gonna go with the original singer named Chris Cross. But he had it. Yeah, they did.
He was in the 70s and the 60s. Mm-hmm. Like I said, no. So, like I said, Wonder Woman trailer.
Actually looks really good. Yeah. Like I said, I had a few styling problems, the fact that certain parts were costume looked too modern for the era they were setting it in. But leather and skirt.
No, just the cuts. The way everything fit together, it was very modern. It's a styling choice. Okay.
It's not a deal breaker. I'm sure they could explain it away. Are you going to die? Me?
What? I'm gonna die. Am I dying? The way to get on WebMD.
I'm sweating a lot. What is that? A few have cancer. You have sweat cancer.
No, we have network connectivity problems. Of course I do. I'm sorry. Like I said, no, I watched the Wonder Woman trailer, which I actually really liked.
I guess I got that. I said, I got that. I watched the Balanchastic trailer, which I hated. As you should because that movie came out earlier this year.
You mean Justice League? I mean Justice League. I liked it. I didn't like the Flash's outfit.
I thought it was, if they meant it to be a nod towards the injustice outfit he had, good job. If it's not, it's too bulky. Can we talk about shoulders? That's what I'm talking about.
I think we made the joke off air talking a couple of days ago. Oh my God, the Flash was an external designing women. Oh, that's even better than what we said. Sorry.
He's a baker girl. Is that what they're called? Baker. What are they called?
Designing women? I'm just saying, sugar baker girls. Sugar baker girls. That was the Delta Burke.
Why do I actually remember that? I don't know if we remember the other one because it was Delta Burke and the one that looked like Angelica Cusin, which is... Do you want me to look it up? No.
Yeah, it's the sugar baker girls. That's it. But like I said, no, she looked like an extra from Designing Women. Like the shoulders on that costume.
Yeah, it was rough. He was working nine to five. But it's just one of those things where it's literally like you have a successful TV show and you took nothing. Literally nothing from it.
Literally. Let's say a few more times. Literally. Literally nothing.
Because over the past two seasons, they've actually done some changes to flashes out of it. And they've done it in a scientific way and in just a visual way. But it's remained streamlined as the point. He's a runner at heart.
I don't understand why shoulder pads wouldn't just catch on fire when you ran. Is that a sweet force? Sorry, the speed force makes you more gay? And I mean very non gay.
Good. Well, it would create a protective aura. You know what? We're not going to do this.
I'm not even going to do a joke. I'm not going to wear it out on how shoulder pads would not actually let them fire in conflict physics. Okay. But a bad look.
I thought cyber bullet unfinished in terms of I think they rushed. No, I think they rushed at the Comic Con. I think they rushed at the trailer. They rushed at the footage to Comic Con.
Well, yeah. I think they were really busy reworking the suicides in the club. That was before that. But yeah.
They were doing the same things at the same time. No, they weren't. They were shooting suicides. Re-shooting.
They brought them back in for re-shoots to make it less dark. Which by the way, suicides in your title so that out of the interesting. They were re-shooting suicides while at the same time they were trying to shoot. Justice League.
You're going to call it Justice League. Just deal with it. What are you going to call it otherwise? What are you going to call it otherwise?
Not face. No, it's not any good. I didn't say it was anything. You know what was a good Justice League trailer that came out of that?
Justice League dark. Oh, Bill Toriel. It's going to be animated. It's already in the works.
They've actually filmed it. I tried really hard to go. You wouldn't heard me talk about this last week. No, I haven't watched it.
I'm going to watch it. No, no, they did a lot of weird time-tribble. I said, they did a bunch of events where I could have gone down to convenience and seen it. I'm sorry.
I did not, and that was not too bad. I had a terrible day. I just couldn't fucking do it. So, you know they got to play Constantin, right?
In Justice League dark. I don't have any. Because it's likeTV's fucking Constantin. I'm totally gonna see a crap out of that.
But like I said, I had no fucking idea that Bojack Horseman Season 3 was coming out back quickly. And if you haven't read the episode description, that's why we're here. I'm sorry I messaged you to Bojack. So we'll be talking a lot about Bojack Horseman Season 3.
Not a bad thing. Should we start now or should we pay? What does that even mean? Well, do we want to keep talking about the Comic-Con announcements or what we want to talk about?
Not having a Comic-Con this year actually. No, we're in that dead space. Maybe it's just because I'm still up on my news that I wasn't surprised by anything. Also, Piper didn't have anything and let us know.
Well, we do know that you're actually gonna see some of the royal family of Inhumans in the next season of Shield. I still want to think the Inhumans film is a rashly nigga name. Unless they really take off in Shield. Shield has been struggling since Season 1.
In Season 2. Now you're right, Season 1. I don't think that the Inhumans movie is ever gonna get made. I think that ever since Marvel switched out the word Newton for Inhuman, I think this has been a long time coming.
I think they haven't really tied Inhumans of Shield into the cinematic universe. Truly. I mean, they've done it. What's on the...
The cinematic universe has touched on Shield, but Shield has never really touched on. So that might be a way to get it in there. I don't know if it's a reason why brothers are pissed at reading or if we even just doesn't care anymore, but it seems like there's some kind of lapse in communication. Yeah, I'll give you that one.
I don't think it's that they're not listening to Weeden, I don't think it's that. I don't care, and I don't think it's that we... I don't think it's an animosity thing. I think it's just not happening.
It's a lot of love-trends doesn't know the right hands doing at this point. There are so many moving parts inside the Marvel cinematic universe. It's hard to keep track of everything. I mean, it really is.
Like, you've got the movies, you've got Shield, you've got Netflix. They put out... Yeah, they've got a 9-fish trailer. You've got a weird...
Kind of a... Kind of a... A mashup. Yeah, it's...
It's pretty much... It's a 10-pounder teaser. Well, and we'll see you in the back guys, because it kind of sets up that Kingpin will be the bad guy, but that's if you're not. I mean, it's probably the bad guy, but that's if you're watching the weird clip-show trailer, which it shouldn't be, it shouldn't be from something from...
Michael Ducklin, come back? But who died? Michael Ducklin Clark died. He ain't Kingpin anymore.
He's got a bit of a... Now it's Gomer Pyle from Full Metal Shriekus. Couldn't you say that's... Nope, it's the bad guy from Metablack.
I'm just trying to see him. It is, and still Vincent and Alfred who has a head that could seek the mechanic. Yeah, don't. You can't disagree with that.
You can't. I think his name is Iceberg. Iceberg. Vincent, Iceberg did not forget.
You want to keep going with the company? So, like I said, kind of calling. Yeah, we got all the trailers, but I just wasn't... I really wanted them from Comic Con this year to make the big announcement that they actually cast Alice and Breeze Captain Marvel and they didn't fucking do it.
It was a lot of foreplay. I just really wanted Alice and Bree to be Captain Marvel. Which I was itching with, but then like, seeing her in the 12th, I was like, Yeah, okay. Look, she said they could have a toss to do it.
No, I'm pretty much any role I would trust her with. But it's one of those where I think she could be a powerful female superhero. When am I getting my every Plaza Squirrel Girl? I'm so sorry I sent you that link.
I regret everything. I wanted it all done. That reminds me. I think we should have a new statement called I regret everything.
Which would be about... or do you want to wait until the end of the episode? No, no, no. I think it should be about things that you regret.
Can I tell me one thing you regret? I said one. I'm spoiled for choice. It's like I think of a very specific thing.
Yeah, we both get. No. So, uh, buying you paper towels. I think they're wasteful and stupid.
Use a damn, you can tell. You don't want that. I'll just watch it. Okay.
They're right there. I'll just watch it. So what do we think about Jack? He's in for you.
Deborah, I regret everything. I am so sorry I made my work a portal on Ingress because now I get all those Pokemon go D-bags stopping it. I regret everything. I don't regret.
Well, okay. Um, so I regret it? Great. No, no, that's just like I said.
Okay. Okay, you know what? Nantic, I get it. You want to become a successful company.
You used all of the data that you gathered building Ingress and make Pokemon go. But you kind of fucked me. You kind of fucked me hard. Like I said, I really regret making the portal with my work because now I get all these Pokemon go D-bags stopping it.
Go-backs. I think they're called. Excuse me. Pokemon go-backs.
Yeah. Um, I just bought an app for $4. Excuse me. And when I tried to play for the first time, it did not load.
So, I am in the low service area. I'm on 4G, not LTE. Sorry. Wait, um, did you try here?
Yeah, it was at that time. I think not on my- Uh, to my WiFi off based on a whole thing. Sorry, what? I turned to my WiFi off based on a whole thing.
Oh no, I heard your word. I didn't hear your reason. Oh, uh, my home WiFi stopped weirdly working, so I just took my phone off. I was just getting home and worked for WiFi company?
I didn't know your name hangs. You didn't? Um, yeah, I just can't figure out what's- why I can't pick up the WiFi signal because my computer and phone can both see it. I just can't connect to it even though the password is totally right.
Uh, it's a long story and I really don't want to get into it. So long story short, you should be on my WiFi network and so you people are only for this and it wouldn't look. Well, yeah, like for the first time, like I'll try it later and we'll see. No, no, you get your old voice.
No, I didn't like. Boys. I really like that movie. Are we ever gonna talk about Jack Horseman Season 3?
It's always over here. Yeah, this doesn't really have a time set one. This is technically an episode, isn't it? Huh.
So what else can I? Viking Season 4 finally went up under the loo and I actually- I should not like that shit as much as I do. Yeah. So at the- I can't think of the correct word.
So Vikings is actually pretty historically accurate. Admittedly, they roll a bunch of people into one person, which is fine. Like Thor? It's essentially one of those like, hey, these people that were in this place all did this thing.
Now we're just gonna make it one person and that'll be awesome. It's not like it's the making of a legend. It is what it is. So the lead character in Vikings is a character called Ragnar Lofgrove.
Yes, I know. It's extremely- extremely- I'm sorry, Ragnar. Ragnar. Ragnar.
Lofgrove. And he starts out as just- I think he works with that whole foods. Had I wished. He's also one of the leads in the work rapid game.
Did you know Dominic Cooper and Ruth Negat are dating? Did you know that Jenny Slater probably cheated on her husband with Chris Evans? Jenny Slater is a comedian? Yeah.
They're together in a thing now and considering her help asked for Chris Evans to start dating after her quote-unquote separation divorce went through. Who's she made at? Some dude. Huh.
Do you say the commercials with the other guy from Keene Peel and Chelsea Purdy is dating for like a dog's age now? Sir, my little girl will send him. Kegan or together? No, no, no, no.
Different commercial. It's the other guy from Kegan Peel and Chelsea Purdy. They're married. Are they married?
Yes. Oh. That's why they were doing those commercials. Well, that's not why they're doing those commercials.
No, but I mean- No. But I didn't realize they're married. Yeah, they got married for the other- Okay, I'm sorry. I don't keep up on all this what the gossip you do.
That's not even gossip. That's actual fact. Yeah, they got married about six or seven months ago. Oh, okay.
They seem to be very happy. Much like I imagine Anna Ferris and Chris Pdern are. Well, I'm sure Anna Ferris is very, very happy with the store lord. Well, do I send you that link earlier when I- I fell down a- like E-YouTube hole of all of the Parks and Recs outtakes?
You sent me one of them. Yeah, but- but- come on her back? No, it was- Yeah, the Kim Kardashian. The Kim Kardashian.
Everybody likes a comeback story. Yeah. That was part of a much larger- Yeah, I- I fell down- I totally fell down the E-YouTube hole with the Parks and Rec. Yeah.
Anyhow, um- See. Vikings. Season four finally went up for Pre-C's. What?
It makes your foot out of the way of the Mikey. There you go. I'm sorry, Mike. Put some- the way of the Mikey.
Yeah, we don't want foot Mike. Yeah, because there's only one dude that likes foot Mikey. Huh? No, foot Mike.
What the hell are you talking about? No, that director of the foot fetish- Foot Mike? I was- I was talking about Tarantino. Foot- in- of- I said- Yes, you want to put his foot your- I'll tell you that.
That actually goes to like a Tarantino thing to do. Like I said, it's been a very well-documented fact. The man has a foot fetish. Yeah, with- with a thermon.
Foot- with a thermon? We need a bad mat- no, no. Or my foot man. I mean, that's- that's a great thing.
Yeah, it's a good foot man. That was really good. That's a great thing. Apparently we're getting lazy at our old age.
We are. Maybe you put my- maybe you- maybe you put my foot man. What foot man? Please don't make him spit in your own everything.
Oh, that was last week. You weren't there, but I almost did. Spit in your own everything? Yeah.
Girl. Doo-doo-doo. That doesn't matter. We'll get to vote Jack.
Okay, so what else you got? Ha ha ha ha. Yeah, I still don't know, justice is dumb. Justice League?
I actually didn't want to vote Jack. Oh, like you still haven't seen down to justice. Pass. Um, actually- okay, I know you saw it twice and I know you paid for it twice.
I still don't want to fucking see it. I just don't know the 4 times. Um- Bitch, please. And here's the thing is that I saw- Bitch, please.
I did. And like I said, here's the thing. I saw Superman Returns. And it's not as bad as people think it is.
No, so okay, so why? Not a terrible terrible entity of man's deal. It's not great, but it's okay. It's deal He says meal Now I'm sorry.
I don't want to here's here's okay. Okay fine, but I would suggest this to you and pretty much everyone I think it's where the second time therefore I say watch the theatrical version and then watch the ultimate brief as Okay, first of all you said it's better the second time I did I started laughing and cool. I've said multiple times What's the big thing? The actual the extra 30 minutes and it's not like 30 minutes of block It's like a minute here.
There's kind of like us watching No, no, no, no Green lagers never gonna be a good film however when we actually watch the director's pet it was slightly less shitty Go the extra minute here or here or there in in terms of Donna Justice. I actually filled in a lot of blanks There's not a whole lot like they didn't take a whole lot of the fights in which white widget but in terms of character growth and Plot movement then it take out like literally half an hour's worth The my only issue is that when we all talk about how much we love Wonder Woman is that I have a psychological trigger with her theme which gets played in down justice at like Five decibels louder than the rest of the score as if it were an alarm clock to wake you up telling me is that because you retired You're really missing Zimmer No, no, that's not at all what I said. That is not at all. I said no Her theme is literally played on electric guitar at five decibels louder than the rest of the score to wake you up during that Yeah, I don't I saw you to you.
I don't give a shit. They made your money by making my money twice They don't give a fuck. That's it's learn of the movie equivalent of honey banger. It doesn't give a fuck So I guess my follow up question any fees It totally eats bees That was in the video my follow up to question I'm only answering your questions my follow up to questions are I Brian Yeah So sex nighter is still quote unquote at the helm I know they promoted Jeff John switch and bad like I said I'd like a half lady boner for that But I also am a huge fan of the splash conics.
So whatever Wait, what okay, let's put a pen in this whole way DC and Cinematic thing for a second. You don't like Jeff John's flash Yeah, you realize you don't own Much of his flash well the ten trades I read I was not where not Jeff John's His entire run wallie is amazing It starts with the mirror master and and brother Graham are we do Are they here? No I think that Jeff Johnson I appear is mostly green lantern, which yeah Yeah, no you didn't read a lot of the Francis Madeple flash stuff, and that's yeah Yeah, yeah, but if it's your stuff. Yeah, no, no you gotta be well.
Okay. Yeah, so So with don of justice being such a kick of the kinds yes Actually got a big promotion to try and kind of unite the actual DC DC which unfortunately takes some off comments. Yes, if anyone can if anyone can it's John's because Goyer has Improving himself Which I like Goyer, but he's a lot This is not his this is not running the universe across like nine different movies. It takes a certain Right skill set whatever it is and Goyer doesn't have it and I'm not going to be going like I said I love his movies.
I think guys had a great track record in terms of early Marvel movies and horror I mean, but something like running the DC cinematic universe. I don't think is that I don't think it's I don't think Was like Fast out and the thing is the recent brothers are like oh, we're absolutely fucking in But no one's let me we can for going miles of people are but you know like it's a huge Yeah However, what's up? No, I'm sorry. I really think you need to not let Snyder direct anything else.
No, I think I keep letting him do shit And yeah, it's visually stunning story wise Wow, you didn't get to the nonsensical dream sequences and Donna Justice, which admittedly we're very beautiful but admittedly nonsensical dream sequences I want something this beautiful and makes no sense. I'll watch that for punch. I'm not gonna have five legs Yeah, that's why I make that joke. Oh, well, I will have seriously Okay, all right, you showed your work.
I'm sorry girl No, no keep doing it. So me too With no fucking story else what's that much? Why did they keep giving him so much money? I'll admit Manas deal it was incredibly heavy handed which we talked about over many episodes of the podcast But it wasn't terrible and there's a lot of things I really liked about it admittedly They did not give Michael she and then dolphin hands that was gonna be in Donna Justice section He did well, he did kind of get a non Sun skull hand at the end.
I just love that you couldn't talk about anything So we talked about the force that he could possibly say and then people lost their fucking minds Thanks, Michael Shannon. He does get a bone flipper, which I think might become my new name on social media Sure, honey. You're very optimistic I really think that you either need to like cast rate sex nighter Fix him or give him a partner that actually understands what he's trying to do and edit his vision Well, I think it's not that I think he's a bad director. It's that I think he's a dumbass I think he's like David Lynch.
He needs a leash. I think he's like more say he needs the Smith's No, I think I think Snyder's a lot like We need somebody to end his vision Like I said the things he makes are beautiful But he needs somebody to actually edit it down because we don't need to see the whole process We need to see the result and no, I don't want to skip steps I just need him to edit out what's unnecessary right and the thing is I've done a justice was two and a half hours long I mean the director's cuts. I think three Directors cuts three Lord of the cock rings is what it is Is a bit of sword fighting and no justice Little What was the Martha versus Martha joke from big last night? I don't know I watched a midnight like months you shouldn't that wasn't insult I know but I should watch it's not much much anymore.
Um, have you watched any of me Mr. River? Yes Well, I'm very lucky and we know watched every episode except for the anyone which we talked about last week In great detail, but the first three episodes have been other second season have been fantastic Well, no, that's because I watch hackers recently Reverse mr. Robot mrs.
Robot. No thing is that so one million years ago They actually brought these scripted hackers around to the con and talk to a bunch of people there and they also The movie is fucking garbage. I enjoy hackers a great deal I guess that is pretty much goddamn unwatchable on like a technology level. Oh, yeah But like I said, if you see this just basically a stupid teen romance, it's pretty easy to watch You know, I'm just glad that at some point But you Stevens isn't in brown face I was gonna talk about that Is it so I was gonna talk about the fact that I'm saying it was just your last night And I told her that you and I verbatim had the Master of non-conversation mr.
Stevens is not an Indian from short-serving or to pretty much every year for the past five years Like you and I talked about it way more than Albert what I was going to say is that so before hackers came out They actually brought the script to death Colin and shocked around everybody's like well This is my garbage and they vaguely did something similar with mr. Robot I separate the fact that they talked to people and people like yeah, I'll absolutely consult on this But you can't use my fucking name right so like I said they kind of chopped it around a death con But it's more like they black marketed You could do something more opposite than hackers Yes, absolutely Being that all the technology on all the hacks they do are a hundred percent possible You mean I can't really like the weird I thing that Johnny Miller bears to break into the kernel Yeah, that happens in hackers many hacks cash see The kernel you can't get Hold on I'm at the computer kernel or The confused anyone else on the show. Here's the deal. I have a problem with the kernel You're gonna get up on a kFC thing in a second, right?
Yeah, but I'm talking like visually One more man matrix all of that shit It can't really see the inside of like you can't go VR They always try to make it look like a city and it's not but it's absolutely not The thing is that in hackers actually do a few things right where they just showed a bunch of data files where it's essentially just numbers Which is what really good. Yeah, they're ones and zeros. I mean, he is absolutely but that's not interesting That's not how you make a movie about Johnny Lee Miller taking into the Jobe What gently Miller do you back to that? Well now he's on Sherlock.
You always a really he's Sherlock Johnny Lee Miller What's it called? Elementary there we go like that'd be dr. Strange Awesome, but you know exactly what I'm talking about that is really Miller. Holy shit You realize that him and then they did cover that actually traveled with a version of Frankenstein where they traded off every night being Frankenstein and Frankenstein's monster Oh, no, I'm talking to him a little bit.
I'm so okay I just thought he would go on to play blues as his name implies Thank you So you're really mad at KFC commercials. I don't like the Colonel. All right, which one they're like nine of them Any of them the new one is the really tan one and I think I can't think it is fucking hey Harrison No No, no Jorjares It's He's public publicist until people because it'd be like well Those things looks like there's been like five or six different kernels it mirrors me the shit out I was our favorite all nine. I don't have a favorite kernel I kind of like current kernel because he said it's extra crispy good as opposed to finger looking good because when they say Ficker looking good I get weird shit out because you just imagine like with an eschi auntie Because Hannibal like there's wearing it, so I don't think sex-nighters Directing or at least solo at least DC Whatever else he wants outside of that Really have to really well for don't justice yeah, I know I mean del Toro do the same thing Okay, well you just said does it make any sense you want you say Snyder can direct it?
Yes, it's all Like Nolan or Can as a console so who consulted Snyder when he directed Justice bullshit bullshit was not Sorry, sorry the center doesn't hold so I can tell you I recently actually watched Direct basis with my dad Last one yeah, but they're what and kind of a point one. It's a really long-ass movie Yes, what it's worth it. Yes and no this point was don't you think it's a little bit overrod and it absolutely fucking is it Takes god damn eternity actually A lot of that is not terrible. It just is because it is a lot of just time-happling in the prison in Gotham It's just time-happling No Yeah I Don't think anyone's work-handed global Snyder.
It's not I think the other people going okay like I know you want this But let's start it 100% and like work our way down That's really low, but all right No, it's big about a Labrador's energy You're here. I love you. I'm here. Let me be open your face open your face.
I think that's a Kanye sign You can laugh out loud on the fucking podcast out. Sorry the things I say are sometimes funny. That was actually really funny But that was almost found back funny So anyway, I think that it's just that he gets excited about everything and he needs somebody to be like yeah This is good. Let's take it back about 20 notches.
I would say 10 and like let's rent in and let's see if it works It does it does it doesn't it doesn't it doesn't David Lynch. I think this is your second walkbusters 300 watchmen 300 watchmen I guess He'll be coming in on That's not cuz we'll now somebody does we John's getting characters right I meant trying to corral create a dick was I would Know I would just give that to some extent. I mean the guy I get the big film title is a promotion for him But basically what they're saying is hey, so this sucks make it better next time and then they're not telling tonight or anything I think they're telling the site And I will be the same thing I said a while ago the man needs adult supervision and Jeff Johnson's the man to give I mean Jeff Johnson comes out of complex as take the wrong way that I hope they're paying Jeff Johnson shit load Because he was because that's talking to all this sounds exhausting. He was getting shit paid anyway But I mean he comes out of the old school complex where you had a man of action, correct?
No Yeah, 100% light don't even look it up But he comes out of that that whole Comicality where there was a super man his name is named spelled just one I'm it spells Jeff sort of you will not you will not knock Jeff Johnson Just you know in my head his name sprouts you off John's Is it where dogs sneezing yes, that's exactly how it's pronounced in my head and his last name means multiple toilets you might imagine Oh, no, I don't know why so now we're calling him dogs knees multiple toilets. Well, you don't know why John's called John, right? Yeah, no, I saw John Crapper I was gonna say I saw men in types. No, no, no the guy who invented modern plumbing Excuse me crappy a anyway, Jeff John's So bad you lose your trigger thought what you've done Jeff John's came out of the comic scene Where when he got it was like you had a certain man group editor a batman group editor and green lander I'm just a secret editor.
Whatever it was. I'm not like I'm not fucking done my goddamn point. I Feel like I shouldn't have taken a breath In the film half of the company that he's kind of lost sight of what's going on the actual characters in comic books But it's not his job, okay, you're it's not his job now But that was his job originally and I don't feel like he's you know, it wasn't no it wasn't I don't think he is What I'm talking about is they had group editors in the 80s and 90s Because you're trying to like pick apart my point but my point is like 20 years old and doesn't exist anymore So it's not really a thing So you're trying to pull apart a thing that doesn't even exist anymore I don't think Jeff John's as soon as we're positioned and I hope they're paying him a lot more than they should for dealing with Zach fucking Snyder Okay, but I think the fact that he's coordinated other creative types when he's taken over on Superman with a Richard Donner when he was coordinating with Flash is a bad example. Yeah, I really enjoy with multiple titles because you had green lantern I actually really like his great mentor.
Okay beside the point when you have to coordinate a tamasi and himself on green lantern He's good with talking with multiple storytellers to make one blended point a cohesive creative vision. Yes, absolutely Niders too much with dick I feel like Snyder's too much with dick actually well, then these people told Snyder to fuck up They should fucking done it after manneas deal. We didn't know how Donna Justice was gonna be we did we did I point things are going wrong. We didn't know what we didn't know then what we know now.
That's it's an unfair assessment It's an unfair assessment We should go back to podcast and I can talk about me and steal you again because my original assessment of me and a steel But it was very heavy-handed a little bit too on the goddamn nose which I mean yeah Which is also that they decided to go the opposite way which is Superman ever threw a punch in Superman returns So let's have like which is a Jeff John's crew No, that was a Metavaction actually no he decided no that was a matter of action It's a matter of action it's when Steve legal took over on them But like I said my bitch about managed to heal was the fact that it was a little bit too fine point and heavy-handed Yeah, and when you're building a universe and you have some new complex characters That is not what you can do and what do they do? Hand a giant set of very complex characters and really really complex universe to fucking Snyder just you know When you say really complex characters and a universe you're talking about literally One movie at this point with Menace deal we know that we know they're gonna do more now hold on Hold on let me finish on this one. You know they're gonna do more you know they're gonna build a universe because there was no marble But at the time There's literally Two and a half pretty current characters from Menace deal I'll give you three tumor fractions Three characters from Menace deal to done of justice when you're losing the cardians You need to get your shit together. I don't love guardians those are but when you were losing wonderful characters Actually, I would actually want that and say when you're losing two characters no one's heard of No one knew rock and rock and roll I knew rock and roll I'm a bad example But my point is like when you're losing to Groot who's I'm a scare villain from the act like 60s action when you're losing to guardians You're doing something wrong guys did when Marvel can say You know we've never you've never heard of these people that's gonna be great And you lose doing which is what they're trying to do is do a sense God which is not gonna work It's not like we all know hardly quit We all know the Joker killer crock.
Okay. I'd give a killer crock The walking dude Like the disappearing reappearing eye We'll see how it works and like no one's gonna be wearing a cat boomerang shirt and I totally will but I look at the boomerang I said nothing with guitar and I really don't know how much ampers is gonna go But are they holding up the thing but I have faith in that direction David is it aya or aha whatever it is he did If you do like what was the last watch or end of watch end of watch and game a comic movie I'm like I'm gonna see it so back to my original bitch Sex nighter this is your second film and you're losing the guardians and it has actually completely lost the guardians years ago What we like directly against each other quite sometimes I'm sorry Like you're why those things were like her hands was actually really anticipated despite the fact that they leave you about the In bed well everyone to start right rocket went yeah, man Like I said, thank you James Ken. Thanks for the only pop chainsaw. Oh Exactly.
I'm one of the five people by that came you're not actually Also, I didn't actually buy it. I got it for Christmas. You be but it's just like you want to trust a nighter with another movie They want they want Man I feel wasn't that bad. I didn't say it was bad.
I said they're trusting another movie. It was tighter And they've learned their lesson you think Jeff Jones wouldn't be a one to bring them in on yes I think him and like the Warner Brothers high monkey mucks. Yes. Yes Is there the ones are gonna go either get with it or don't I Don't care.
We'll pay some other no-name fucking director like I don't know I mean as an example James Gunn nothing I'm sure you know what I mean like actually gunna said he thinks he's pretty much on after starting state I mean like we're gonna go like they'll go we'll find some fucking indie guy and do What what movie are you talking about though when you say that well this point it's Water if you cut your losses. I say they weren't gonna make it I mean we have to see suicide squad first but considering how many quote-unquote reshoots they did with that it'll make the money I don't think we're gonna make the movie that the fans want them to make and I think it's going to be might get Probably piece of shit. I think it's gonna be these two. Oh no I don't I think so I've said before I think so It's why I just don't think they have the time to make the money for DC to survive Going up against marble and marbles been really smart and they've made them they've made everyone a play their game up to it Including Universal Studios.
The problem is is that DC is ignoring the successful parts of their team which is DC TV Well, they completely discarded and we're as much shoulder pad shenanigans Silent Tims actual Barry like I like what sorry. I'm really really walking to Barry. Okay. I'm not going to guess your sense.
Sorry Right, the same custom. I think they've ignored the successful parts of their their fear room I think they also ignored what made Marvel successful which was there's an Iron Man movie There's a Thor movie like we don't have to get every character arc and every blah blah blah in one fucking movie I get that especially considering that when I told you I'm like I'm Iron Man was awesome Captain America felt like let's do this we can move on to the Avengers. I know you love Thor But I'm like oh yeah, I'd be like Thor too. I don't This is going to run your edit thing Doug's Like I said now you don't need every character arc which actually So the new Star Trek which is something that was nice in there is because they were the character and they didn't give us his whole arc Because we didn't fucking need it.
No, I feel like that DC is not utilizing their strengths and not I don't mind on their weaknesses. They're relying on their weaknesses, which is so fucking weird Hey, you guys know what you should do you hire Snyder to be a like one of the guys that does the No, it's gonna say like the films, but the editing and not the story No, let him let him be a producer or executive manager across all fans one new story consulting Do not let him get behind a goddamn camera. I said I'm not saying he's a bad director He's a bad director for your franchise. Does that make sense?
Yes, he's not a He's not a bad director. He's a bad director for your franchise Absolutely, I agree what I meant to say is he'd be a good director of cinematography Because the man makes beautiful images and beautiful films Does he know how to tell the story in a timely manner? He knows fucking not Okay, yeah, I'm gonna talk about vocac Yeah, so it's right back. They did not advertise it nearly enough and it was completely overshadowed by real or not doing Lego Batman and DC It was so good Oh, jacksies and three came out you've watched it The whole kick to put I loved it since they get killed and you have as well.
Yeah, I love that cartoon And it makes me laugh super hard, but I'd never do a cartoon kick to press me that much as well So pretty sure you haven't gotten to the low point that I've gotten to but it was a kick rate and got income I don't know what that kick is and you can't spoil it for me. I will say I Know it's one of those work you're watching somebody going through a journey of personal growth And every season it's impossible not to see that yourself Watching Bojack horseman, I mean I do feel better about myself Slurp Larry Abstract so you're seeing a person Of course And the more that you know about his childhood and the decisions that got him to where he was and where he's now more you understand Why he makes the decisions that he makes and I don't know about you, but that kind of like yeah No, I think about people that around me people that are You start like soul-searching after watching Bojack God no, it's only life's a bit too close to home. I don't like you're giving me No, it's like a That's more broken than you and you see them making decisions to make them a better person It doesn't make you think about your decisions. No, I go good for them.
I'm gonna remain just my broken as well You should I don't really take it. So Bojack season three came out. It's really good. It's really good No, I'm like eight nine episodes and I'm almost done Yeah, I'm I'm almost done.
I don't know why they didn't promote it mark It's just because they know we're gonna watch it anyway. I don't know but let's talk about it Not about that Things what do they know let's find out? I love that it's no Hollywoo because he stole the D in the first season. That's right.
That's why it's only blue. Okay I can kind of did yeah, no Hollywoo is still Hollywood He stole the D in the first season for that and and directed over there and then mr. Peanut butter took the Reddit slash blame for that because I just got to yeah, Hollywoo stars it Actually, don't his brother. Yeah, actually don't 100% remember how they ended up in JD Sellinger's bicycle shop, but it was mr.
Peanut butter and JD sellinger came up with Hollywoo stars I don't want to do their new things. What do they know? Let's find out Like I said, I don't 100% remember how they ended up with JD sellinger But it is JD sellinger and they somehow ended up at his bike shop in the second season and not showing up like But we like to say that anymore one of the greatest word plays I've ever heard actually since why did you do that? It's an accident.
I'm sorry. It's right there. I'm sorry. I can literally pop in aluminum can.
I'm very sorry You popped it now lock it That bad that can we talk about John up. I'm gonna one of the best word plays ever this side of a rest of development It literally it literally was the c-word joke from rest of development the way it was crafted the slinas of it where Mr. Peanut butter makes a John up-dike reference. It says talk to him.
I would say well, we're gonna get there I'll just say it but uh Yeah, exactly. I don't care I'm referencing John up-dike and JD sellinger and I got my degree in English Okay, whatever I'm quoting a fucking show. It's not horrible Well, you just ruined it. So moving on.
There's a great dike joke when you see the first like two episodes The voice cast has expanded the season I cannot believe they have Angela Bassett is it Oscar agent which like right of the patches in the first episode No, she said I think probably Okay, but you got go ahead sorry the majority of the episode she said and the whole thing with him following her home for her She'd get part into the valley. I just got there. It's one of those things where it's like that's probably the most revealing thing See them be themselves and she spells that she's dust on her sweater like yeah, like you're like I am a little bit sad. They didn't have any Jane for days.
I I'm gonna assume run fun. She's I know I know we're on this one But you do have and I want to get to my first note last you have didric bader multiple voices but being Princess Caroline's assistant White some that comes in Fred Savage comes in Dave Franco comes in can is virgin Bergen Just got done watching that episode It's amazing like that whole closer episode is phenomenal I think I'm earth a burn all I can think of is the episode of 30 raw I completely loses it and keep screaming about her be brown line and you can't have it all So you can't have family and work angeled assets. I'm gonna keep going We're now who I just obviously got to that episode is captain peanut butter I'll name their sons like certain things like mister and captain. I haven't seen any of the other families.
So don't ruin it for me Okay But trying to say Marl Wilson is on the season and it's a little weird hearing the character Jill pill the weird like Yeah, like I need to get a letter back voiced by the invisible woman who lives in your house, but you don't know it or that is from night veil That's the first thing what I know that voice. It's not like a little woman who lives in your house Yeah, yeah, yeah From night though, but the things like I heard the voice zero air right there and it wasn't like oh, I know that voice like who is it? I was like no, no, I'm sure she was the youngest daughter and Mrs. Dad fire.
Oh, yeah, yeah, but like she hadn't grown up in her voice Wasn't it yeah, yeah, yeah, they rip down the windows like scale bar for some bullshit No, no excited to The underwater episode the effectively very just we need What He says anything well, let's just in fishish or whatever How much did it crack you up when they have a lot of singer doing the dolphin? Yes, she's like of course why wouldn't it be? And then you had like one thing we're gonna talk about this later on but like did he has a genuine like human I know he's not human but like just let it go on now. I think that's what we'd like about the characters that he has extremely Human regretful emotional moments and then he goes back to his life and it's just not even that like medias It just every time he tries to put something right it gets horribly crushed whether it's by him by someone else by circumstance By nature which on this one would you by nature?
To okay, is there something that happens one or two episodes later on that we should talk about yet, okay? Well, maybe you don't want me to talk about how do you go darker because I wanted to bring this up with with Mr Robot where Mr. Robot said episode or I'm sorry season two is going to be darker and we're like really how oh Mr. Robot should tell you in the head like repeatedly So you can't talk about how Bo Jackson get darker, but it always ends on a serious donut much of the Conversation I love this fucking show.
I think it's hilarious. This is a cartoon that always makes me feel very depressed as well It should almost every other Pointing because I could not find the outros on actually could not find both of the outros on side what I thought spotify You have one city you do I was like four on spotify I wanted to mix so there's a one So there's that back in the 90s There's a second one when they're talking about the Bojack Horseman show which I haven't come across well The next episode they actually do that mr. Kelly was for whiskers did and then like yeah fucked off I got a comment across a difference and you can listen to this a different outros on which is like back in 2007 I was part of an unsuccessful TV show interesting like they do a different outros on for the Bojack Horseman show episode Okay, I could find either of those on spotify. I was very sad you know Lastly only because I got there recently Giant Todd head nice Nail okay I know that he was on the millers with her and that's one of the reasons why there are acquaintances and they had her as a Throwing character on season two, but on season three she does so much heavy lifting and it's fucking hilarious and really Todd You'll get there okay her in the Todd head because Todd thinks that somebody stealing their food But it's just fucking her Yeah, no, she's hilarious And I mean I want just like probably a solid what four years after you did yeah, cuz I waited for the series to end she was max She was amazing and her and this it's just as solid emotional like she's wow I mean nobody's getting a less than she's not poisoning anyone, but it's just as honest I said it's just as honest as a performance as it was for her Which justified like no I like it's just such a throw away part in season two which was hilarious I can't even remember the name of the game that we're getting taught a big deal to again By the way, they do a weird character twist on him at the end The seat Bo Jackson aerator from That would be interesting right because I don't play that Bo Jack made a giant Todd head Let that's amazing.
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