Unger we like you're not dying stories. What did he not die? That was not... Unger did not die.
You can see there is a diagnostic there by the fact that there is an Unger looking fella sitting in the chair not dead. Nice. We're gonna assume and then... And then we'll maybe talk about that during Potato Mayhem.
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Recording live from the threshold, Love Lab in North Hollywood, California, and by Perverted Studio audience, hello, bunnies! Woooo! I'm Kathy. I'm my Michelle.
And I'm Cal Boogie and over there is Unger. Hi. Unger! Unger's not dead.
Unger's not dead. I have no idea what this is about. Unger, will you please enlighten us as to why you are not dead other than the normal breathing bloody things. What, because I kind of set myself on fire?
Oh, like what part? Wow, look at my top. My top. My top.
My head. Oh, like a Michael Jackson Pepsi commercial. I thought you actually got a haircut. I did, but you can't see all the red.
Oh my. My nose is missing. All the skin on one side. I see it.
I didn't want to say anything. I thought maybe he got down. Yeah, it wasn't something cool. It was my girl.
I couldn't eat and pussy. What? It wasn't even breathing fire or doing anything cool. It was just grilling a steak.
Although, pretty much it was steak and brats. Ooh, steak and brats. So can you walk? I think it smelled good afterwards.
The regulator failed and... I said, I couldn't ugher. I said, I heard this. I was like, oh crap.
And then that became whoosh with the giant fireball coming right at me and hit me in the face. Oh, that's happening. So your gas grill then. Yeah.
Your gas grill. I'm propane and propane accessory. Oh man, that's scary. I did the same thing.
I did the same thing. It charred my hair and my eyelashes. I did my brow. We're supposed to have a third of one left.
But second degree burns over about a third of my face. Oh, hunger. Wow. The cool thing is my kink and weird stuff saved me knowing how to deal with fire.
Oh, there you go. While most of my brain was yelling, oh crap. Part of you was thinking, drop and roll. Don't even worry about being on fire.
You just drop and roll. And I was thinking breathe out. Which is more of a fire breathing. Wow.
I'm going to go. And that would be bad with propane coming into you. So I'm dropping. So kink saved me in a way.
Hunger. We're so happy you're here. Yes, definitely. I got a laugh.
I'm so not shocked. It's just something so lame. It was like a steve erwin dying by a fucking stingray. It's like one of the things you expect to be like, well, I catastrophically engulf myself while breathing fire out of a Volkswagen tailpiper.
It's just like cooking mistakes, not where I pitch it. I engulf myself like three weeks ago doing fire eating. But I had far fewer. I had no damage.
Yes, I get a thing. It's funny how that works. I have been playing with knives my entire life. I was a kid.
I'm throwing them around, throwing them, tossing them, doing whatever. The only time I've cut myself is putting it away or cleaning them. Never while playing with them. You're dropping them all doing fire.
But just away. You ever dropped one on your foot? Don't you love a well balanced knife when you find out it's a well balanced knife because it's stuck in the top of your foot? You're like, wow, it's a well balanced knife.
I should get that out. That hurts. I'm bleeding. Well, this is a good shot to show.
Yeah. This is perverted podcast is a human show, Kathy. It's a human show. There's so much excitement in here.
It's so much more excitement than I had this weekend. I fucking hate bachelor weekends. Oh, you're not here. I hate bachelor weekends.
Mu was out of here. I always tell myself I love it. I don't know if anyone can relate to this. I'm looking straight at my misshalka.
She's a whore like me. Yeah. I am. So it's like Mu's out of town doing some family stuff.
She's back tonight. And then Bunny was doing bunny stuff. And so I'm like, I had Friday night and Saturday night and there were parties that threshold both nights. And I'm like, fuck yeah, man.
The shark. I just fucking filed my shark teeth and greased up my fucking fin. I was just like, yeah. And I swear to God Friday night was pretty packed.
10 people were 10 people were pretty bad. And I come in and I'm like, yeah, it's fucking on. I'm just going to get some, you know, because you know, Mu has like a little list of, you know, vaginas she has to lick before she dies, you know, so she can figure out if she's bisexual or not. So, you know, she's up to like 30 and she still hasn't figured it out yet.
So I think she needs like another 30. So I'm really working to score those. And I swear to God Friday night, I was like, yeah, I was in bed by 11 o'clock. I was going to say I didn't see you much.
I was just like, man. Did everybody shoot you down, buddy? No, I, well, no. Oh, no, I didn't.
I didn't even really, I just kind of, it's those nights where it's like, because it was the same thing the next night. It was, I mean, it was nice, you know, it's nice to hang out. It's great, you know, but it's like, you're like, nah, you don't, like when Mu's on the bed and she's looking cute, she has her lobsters and she's like, Daddy, go get me a girl. And I'm like, all right, honey.
And it's, you kind of just go grab someone, throw them in. You're like, lobster's here is a fucking lobster. You know, stuff, lobster's, you know, it's okay. Now it's anal.
Okay, great. It's a little progress. Oh, that's what lobsters. Things escalate quickly once you walk in the door of the love lab.
It's pretty much like, hey, you down with this? Okay, great. Let's do this. But yeah, I had no game.
My game's left. There's none. I had so much game. You did.
You were, I was trying to hook someone up with you. You did. The guy from the producer from, we had a video shoot here during the week. And scared him off.
No, no, he was, yeah, I mean, you just were like, one of us was sharking and the other one was fucking guppy. Yeah. I had a bull shark named the bull shark was out. Yeah, the bull shark was out.
I'm gonna shout. Black, black, just couldn't, just couldn't get his groove. I got a foot rub. I got two scenes.
I chit chatted some boys up. Some will happen later. And there was other ones. Yeah.
Other ones were ready for you. So you did the sharking? Oh, the guy was down to play. I didn't know that.
Oh, yeah. I mean, he, I kind of was a little leery because he was like, oh, just sensual. He wasn't really into like experience and a lot of spanking and whipping and stuff like that. So, you know, I'm like, maybe maybe, maybe my Michelle's not the best to start with.
Maybe just not the most. Maybe your balls are in danger. Maybe. I'm more loose.
But that was it. But oh, oh, oh, oh. You know what's coming? No, it's coming in the mail.
Oh, tell me. I'll be positive. You and Mew. Oh.
I did primalhardware.com. They make like amazing, just all sorts of alien, and I'll be positive for those of you that don't know is basically like an alien tentacle, but it's a hollow dildo. And you can actually shove a gelatin egg through it and plant an egg inside of an orifice. And so a number of people seem to be very, very excited about that.
Is Mew one of that kind of? Mew, look at it. It's just pasted on her face. That's just all she ever thinks about.
So I reached out to this primalhardware because you know, the show's not big enough to where I can go, hey, send us some shit. And they're like, how many listeners do you have? You have to tap dance. Yeah, I had to tap dance.
So I wrote them some jingles for his site and I said, hey, I'll do a trade with you. And they love the jingles. And so they sent me the artist release and whatever. And so we'll get some of those and then we will try them out right on that table there.
I had a question. Yes. Since they're hollow, can you attach them to said dick and fuck them with that on? What?
Could you? Kind of like a urethra fucking, like a male appendage to male like... No, like you put it on you. Like that is not your dick.
That's now your dick. And then you fuck her with that. I think the whole idea is to plant the egg through it because it's... Yeah, you put the egg in there.
And then you kind of squeeze it out. And then you kind of squeeze it out. You know what, why Michelle, that is, I'm sure a possibility. She's freaking.
Yeah, I want... Yeah, see, I'm a helper. I have ideas. You should go to primalhardware.com.
Inside that, we're gonna have some cool new jingles. Just to recap, Unger didn't die. Michelle was totally busy. Shark.
Shark night. I'm gonna go into it a bit early. Wait a minute, why are we rehashing? I like that.
I like that. Sorry, rehashing. Old shit. Talking about an avi positor here.
I'm a hardware. It's over, man. No, no, no. I have one with tentacles on it.
Yes. This might sound weird, but my brain goes weird places. That's why I'm here. Okay.
Can you make him out of Jello and then eat them? Why not? You probably... If you have a little picture here, I don't even know his name on the show.
Catman, there should be the gel. Well, because he's a kitty. He's a kitty. So this, I just got the gelatin.
This is here, past it to Kathy. So this is the stuff you make the eggs with, because obviously you're not gonna use real gelatin. I mean, like, jello gelatin, because it has all the sugar in it, and it's just asking for some yeast infection love. So you get, like, the Knox gelatin.
It's the... It's actual gelatin. This is actual, like, gelatin gelatin, and then you get the molds. If you go online, like, eBay or whatever, they sell them on promo hardware.com, but you can also get...
They have ones that are shaped like alien eggs, and they're like special egg molds, and then you, you know, just... There's a whole process, and they have videos on the website that show you how to make them, and then you now have your eggs, and you keep them kind of chilled or whatever, and then you just... Boo! You do, like, a face-hugger type scene with this?
Oh! And then you fucking mouth, yes! Face the... Yes!
...and then you do a regular double mold and you have a double mold. Oh! How about a DD? Or a triple D?
You get three of them, one in the mouth, one in the pussy? No! Well, I told them, every jingle I write, you get a... I get a...
I get a knobby positor per jingle, so if they need more... I think you need to write some more jingles. I'm like, hey dude, all right for your kids bar mitzvah, I don't give a shit. Good job, David.
Very Jewish name. Wow. I have an uncle, David. That's...
The two of you together are scary. Boy, you want a cunts play? We're gonna fucking jump with their horns because that's the kind of freakies shit that happens on their light! Boy, your piece of mind, please, know that the author of every post we talk about has given us permission to do so.
I am so excited about this post, Kathy. I am just... I have just... I'm not.
Don't lie. ... studied thoroughly. I haven't even read it.
You did not even post it. You erased made posts! I did not. Yeah, you did.
And then you didn't tell me that my Michelle was gonna be here. I told you in the text. Because then I changed it to something that she could actually talk about. Yeah, buddy.
So I have no idea what we're talking about. Well, this is from Lucy who wrote something called some tips for male subs and slaves. Naturally, when I heard Michelle was going to be here, I'm like, she got away in on this one. Lucy says, nearly every message I get is asking to meet, meet, meet.
If it's not that, it's bombarding me with a list of their fetishes. Boring. What has happened to the art of wooing and courting a woman? Seriously.
I expected submissive men to be the best at this, but instead, they are the most selfish. They just want to jump to the endgame with no work. What I want from submissive males is to be charmed, impressed, courted, treated like a queen. I want to feel I am the most special person in the world, not a fetish machine or a piece of meat.
Exactly. Vanilla men can do this, submissive men in general are too self-centered, it's crazy really. Double standard bullshit! Shut up!
So go to hell! No! It's you're not weighing in on this, Michelle! Yeah, no.
It is, this is like, it's like she knows exactly what I'm going through. I got like, I've got so many messages of, oh, goddess, you seem so powerful. I would just love for you to, I got to get out, go on, come on. I'm not gonna lose the things I want.
And then I'd like you to put some cheese on that. I'm not losing french fries. But I'm not worthy of your, whatever the fuck. It's just like, oh, Jesus fucking Christ.
Is it different the people that actually come to our femdom night, which is domination? I mean, you see journalism. No. You know, I mean, like there are other boys that do want to play with you because they want something from you.
And in the beginning... Agreedy bottom. No, agreedy bottom. Difference.
I like bottoms. You know, they like, oh, gosh, I want to play with you. You seem so sadistic. Oh, gosh, I want to play with you.
I want you to fuck me in the ass with your dildo. I'm like, oh, for one thing, you're way too fucking old. And another thing... Your ass is gonna turn to powder when I fuck it boy.
That's right. But no, it's like, I don't even really know you know you and you think I'm gonna stick my dick in your ass? You're fucking me out, man. Now, now my boy, I will definitely use that as much as I want.
But that's because we have a relationship I know him, I trust him. And we didn't even start doing that kind of stuff until later into the relationship. So, I mean, like that, you know, it's just like they come up to me, I want you to do CBT. I just met you, I'm not touching your dick.
Thank you. Thank you for offering that to me though. Yeah, I mean, if I submissive girl came up to you and said, I know I just met you, but I just want you to motorboat my tits right now. Will you do that please?
If I wanted to motorboat her tits, I would, yes. And I would do it with a dominant fucking glare in my eye. I'd be like, these are my tits, right? Yes, sir, fine.
See? That's the difference between male and female. But it's not male subs because they're men, they just act the way they would want someone to act toward them. Possibly.
And yet they don't realize they're not going to get anywhere with it, for the most part, with a dominant woman doing that. There is this one guy who posted, or he sent an email asking for X-Wayne Z, he said he would pay for it. I'm like, I talked to a popular woman, I'm like, hey, this guy wants to do it and he wants to pay me. What do you think?
He's like, well, you know, see what he says. I'm like, I'm like, well, you know, I would like a new purse. So, I said, okay, well, so I will meet at threshold. It is 150 bucks, you have to do my PayPal, give my PayPal address, and then we'll negotiate.
I didn't hear anything back from him. I'm on this group on Facebook, and all these other girls are like, did you hear from this guy? I'm like, so this guy is sending the exact same copy paste message to every fucking female. It doesn't matter if they're a male, they're sub or dominant.
Wow, what is it? Trying to get something. Just a reaction. Yeah.
It's a free reaction. Yeah, so it's just something for a spank bank and trying to see if he'll find someone, oh no, don't you worry about that. I'll do that for free. Yeah.
All right, go ahead. May speak. Okay, so I made some jokes in the beginning because it's like, oh, I want the submissive to woo me and the things like that. And so I totally understand that that is your desire, and you can have any desire you want.
When people approach you and make their requests, if I want this, this and this, that's called being a bottom as far as I'm concerned when someone's new in a dungeon because they have things they want to try or whatever. Maybe men have a much lesser skill set as far as smoothing that in. Ultimately, you're just saying no, if someone says, because I get that all the time, when I negotiate with women, or they're like, oh, I'm new. This is pre-negotiation.
Right. But I'm just like, pre-anything. So yeah, so I'm not saying they don't have a shitty time, but I've also kind of the understanding that the dominant is the predator and the submissive is the prey. So that's just mine.
You don't have to have it for you, but for me, it's a lot of submissives want to be taken. So that's, so when they approach you, I just don't understand the dynamic because I'm not into dudes. No, it's not. So I can totally see that that's got to be fucking annoying.
It's not just that. It's what is the follow through and what comes after. It's not just a negotiation. It's the overwhelming majority of male submissives who want to come in.
They want to tell you what they want. Right. Pay just lip service to the whole worship and I adore you. I don't need somebody to worship and adore me, but I do need you to be a submissive.
Not sit here and give me a laundry list of the things you want me to do to you and then walk the fuck away. And I've heard you talk before specifically about one time where someone made you feel like that's all then that you skipped away as if. Sure. I just didn't let you.
Okay. That happens more often than you would think in the femdom. Oh, I believe it. I'm not I've seen it.
I've been here for 10 years. I'm just trying to get a grasp of what my point of view is. I've also heard a lot of times, well, I'll let you do this to me. Oh, you'll let me do this to you.
Okay. Well, let's talk. But isn't that the difference between bottoms and a submissive? If you're looking and just saying if somebody is actually submissive, then they're going to want that power exchange.
But a bottom I we have had a hundred greedy bottoms in the level of lab that are interested in experience. No, I like the toys. They want to talk about me. What they're doing is they're presenting themselves as a submissive.
Well, then that is a submissive. Like the bottom line is that all of these people whether it doesn't matter what you call them. It doesn't matter whether it's negotiation, pre negotiation or the words that are being used. They have a sense an overall sense of entitlement and lack of respect that comes with every word that they say.
So I love a bottom who knows what they want, who can speak well, who can stand up for themselves and advocate for themselves. Yes. Excellent. Do that.
And it makes me want to play with you because you know your own mind. And you know your limits and you know, you know, what you want to explore and okay, this might be a soft limit, but let's explore that. Yeah. And someone sitting across from me saying, I'm sorry, but I'm not going to allow you to do this.
And this to me fabulous. Give me your whole list. Not here is what I want you to do for me. That's the way it's going to go without any mention whatsoever about what you're going to do for me.
This is an exchange and the exchange doesn't happen with a lot of these what I call predatory submissive. And when I first started going to these parties and involving myself and any femdom party, the term predatory male kept coming into my head and I'm like, that just makes absolutely no sense. And yet that term fits the majority of the men I meet at these parties. It's absolutely ridiculous.
I never understood how that's happening. So the issue is that these are disingenuous people. So it's not whether they're submissive or bottom or whatever the fuck they are. They just don't know how to have an exchange with someone.
They don't understand it. It doesn't matter whether this is of a nilla relationship or you're a top or you're a bottom male female. It doesn't matter. There has to be an exchange.
There has to be respect. And there has to be a sense of I will give you this and you give me that. Yeah. They mean all they want is you give me this and then I will go up on my way.
And it's not that's not how it works. I mean, like when I first started topping, yes, I did I would do like five scenes of one night and I would play with these boys. And then it got to where it I started feeling really used. I and I would drop heavy, heavy because like I would give so much of my energy into the scene into this boy and or and also girls.
This has happened to me with a woman too. And they they just like don't give anything back. There's there's nothing in return. And I felt like I was a kink like a kink fetish dispenser.
Thank you. You're just a fan of the machine. Yeah, just like this. Oh, here I go.
Throw the needles at you. Oh, here. You know, which I never see I'm a little different in the sense that I can find the balance like I am. When my needs are that I need to be validated.
Well, I have two amazing girlfriends that validate me on a daily basis. So I get my validation there. There's a certain time where I understand that a lot of the women we play with are absolutely just looking for an experience. They don't give a fuck about some fat 50 year old janitor.
They like the toys. I have a room full of toys, a room full of experiences. It's a positive place. So I know they're not into me.
So it's kind of I'm when I go into these situations because you can see obviously fairly quickly this person is just here for an experience. Or they're here because they want to, you know, have me use mouth on them or something. And that's so I kind of find that balance, which is a lot. Believe me.
She has corrupted many many. So I think. But what do you get out of it? Do you get anything out of those?
I like giving people experiences. I like making chicks come. I like giving. But that's when I'm looking.
But that's when I am in a headspace because there's times like I said, there's times where people, you know, I'm like, I'm not really interested in being your vending machine tonight. And then I'll just advocate for myself and I'll say no. So but there are but I do get something out of the fact that I know you're here for an experience and I'm getting something out of it because I get to still touch this body and I still get to explore. So I just make sure that my validation comes kind of from myself and what my agenda is.
If I'm not going to get. Does that make sense? It does make sense. Whenever you're doing that, whenever you're in that mood where you are just going to have that kind of a scene.
Do you ever feel that these women are disrespectful to you? Are they rude? I mean, I have. I just wouldn't play with them again.
When you can see that they're so, you know, because this is what happens when you do a lot of pick up play is like, you know, you get in. They seem really nice and everything. Oh, this seems like a jam. They're not very genuine at all.
I'm a demo top. Yeah. So at that point, I'll just kind of end the scene, you know, and be like, all right, you know, off you go. In my experience and granted, I haven't played a lot in the last few years because for many other reasons.
But in my experience with that, when I was playing more often, that kind of, it was more balanced. If I would go to any regular party and there were, I was going to top or bottom with men or women. It didn't matter what I was going to be doing. There was somewhat of a balance between people who were being rude or disrespectful or just entitled arrogant assholes.
And unfortunately, though, the minute you walk into a femme-dong party, that scale tips and it's like 70% bat and the rest are just jewels that you're looking for people who actually are human beings. So like, I'm walking down the hallway and this guy, he's, I've never seen him before. He's like, oh, hey, are you, are you a dominant? I'm like, yes, I am.
Oh, well, well, here, take this. You can hit me with it. Like, uh, no, that's okay. Thank you.
I'm going to go this way now. I think the real problem is that guys just suck. I'm being used by a woman. I just, I'm totally okay.
But if you, I can totally understand. If a dude was like, hey, dude, I need this for me. I'd be like, oh, fuck your dead mother. You piece of shit.
Yeah. So here, yeah, you, you get hit me with this. I'm like, oh, thank you for the honor. You scraggly piece of nothing.
You're so, no, no, here, here. You're, you're not strong enough to hit me. I'm like, oh, now you're going me into it. I love it when they, I love it when they go at me and try to go at me into hitting them.
There was like one particular boy that would do that. Isn't that the guy you sewed his balls to his leg? Oh, no. That was the boy who had no limits.
And I'm like, all right. I have no limits. And I was bored and I'm like, hey, where's that old guy? Oh, God.
I'm going to stitch me some nuts to a leg. That man. And then that man is one. Yeah.
So men's sake. And so how do we, I guess just talking on the show, if you are a male bottom and you are listening to a bird podcast, please don't do that. Please don't be. Please just remember and talk to us like a human being, like another person.
And probably people have seen too many femdum porn movies and they think that that's what it's going to be like. But in general think that. Oh, at the month. Yeah.
So I play with chicks. At the donation month. I'll have new people come in and I'll take them to the side. I'm like, okay, so what is your expectations?
Oh, well, that's not going to happen. This is what you need to know. And I'll try to give them a baseline rundown. Talk to people.
Ask them their name first before you ask them to play. Now get to know them a little bit. But be respectful. Ask them if they want something to drink.
And just be courteous. And then. So you're doing your bit. You're doing what you can to educate.
I do. I will like I've got this other new guy. He's like, oh, yeah, I'm like, okay, so this is and then I will also teach them. I'm like, okay, stay away from this person.
Say we're from that person. Be you know, this is what you can expect from them. This is what you can expect from that. And but if you do X, Y and Z, you're going to do good.
And you go, you seem like a good guy. Just, you know, don't be a douchebag. And that's usually great. Don't be a douchebag.
It's basically what we just. What you said earlier is really what it comes down to. And that's what I think. And this is this goes far beyond just, you know, the kink lifestyle.
Understanding that every interaction that you have with another human being, there has to be something in it for the other person. And if there's, and if you don't understand that there has to be a give and take, you're already just a socially awkward piece of shit. And you should probably kill yourself. No, no, no, no.
Just don't let on fire. Oh my God. I'm just kidding. How hard do you have any propane fireballs left for some fucking greedy bottoms?
I could make fireballs happen pretty darn close. Now that he now that he told us, look, I can tell me, look at his face. Yeah, I know. He's all fucked up.
He looks like leather face for chainsaw massacre. My guy. My complete head got hit with a fireball. got hit with a fire.
Oh my god I just can't let my mind. I need to fireballs going away from my face. I mean if that happened the whole new whole new world. You expanded your kinkar eyes and under.
Not that off the bucket list. Oh my god Jesus. Handing off in flames. Quick check on what you guys are just talking about.
I've been to a lot of party femdom parties a lot of my Michelle's seen you. Maybe I'm over the years. Something that would drive me nuts seeing it and I used to do this a lot. I'd see like three guys around one femdom trying to get her attention and having no interest in talking to her because I was there with somebody and I had plans or I was even DMing.
I'd still walk ago. I noticed your drink is empty. Would you like anything? Oh so nice.
Did you teach you know some facts? Yes. But that's how you should approach the if you approach things like that. Good for you.
Yes. What is needed? Make it an interaction that way. And then after you get to know them and know what they want to drink and things maybe then start talking about things to do later.
Yes. You know what nobody has ever done to me. Offered your drink. Damn right.
I never had a woman walk up and just be like, sir can I get you a drink? That's because you're a daddy and you aren't serviced. Look at you just about shiver pan slapping. Look at that.
She's like it's Derek's like oh sir I would love to just rub your feet and let you relax and have a great evening. That's the opposite of a daddy. Hey I brought you cherries. You what?
I brought you cherries. Oh that's true that's really good. Thank you. Thank you.
You have served me well my good and loyal son. Don't bitching. You have you have pleased me. You have pleased me.
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Where's your piggy? Where's your piggy? I went in order This time I have actually have another trio of small little emails that people have sent us starting with Amazon Princess who says hey P.P. Team just wanted to drop you a line to say thanks I went to my very first play party on Saturday night And I don't think I would have been brave enough without having had you guys in my ear holes sharing your knowledge Oh, that's hot or the P.P.
Family on discord with their unconditional love and support love you all a long time Oh, it's so cute. All right, there wasn't a date rape involved Everyone was so happy and I said that literally I just watched 15 faces just go Right Isn't that rape deposit suppose no No, that would be her stuffing something in my ass. Okay, never mind reverse that Cuz I'm here. No, I give me a cup of water.
No, I will rub your foot just one foot though One toe just one toe cuz I'm still a dominant But you know but I'm a son now you're going to the next one in the bathtub. Yeah, I do remember when you fully mouth let oh, yeah Remember when you took a business we made a business a birthday. You know should we turn her into a birthday cake I remember and then my Michelle was just like I'm taking this foot and literally she just inhaled of this whole kid covered foot in her mouth Good times It happened that's when I'm like I'm out of here. All right, the jade geek I love that name Oh says I was thinking that it would be interesting now that the show has gone on for a few years to revisit topics from the older episodes And see if anyone's changed how they feel about it people on the show aren't the same people they were when the show started If you could just give us that list She looks better without me I actually talked to her today.
I mean just like in a Facebook. She's doing good. Yeah, I follow her on Instagram and Facebook The stuffs, huh? No, no, he was here this weekend.
She was here this week What are we talking about? Oh, that's right I can't even remember a conversation that happened 13 seconds ago let alone the last topics of the hundred and sixty six episodes So I think that is a great idea because of course we we still repeat topics because we're talking about consent in the same general things It's just um, we don't really have a list. I mean the last has a number of has a list and lazz and lazz in his crew has Which by the way, have you ever looked through that the massive database? It's not a pretty big it is not a pretty big aren't What so ever but it is fun because I literally have no idea other than like anal human maracas and Bigfoot I don't remember anything until somebody says remember this you know who does remember?
Harry who's sitting in our audience literally has had some of your jingles swimming around in his earhole Harry get up to the mic and tell us which ones you're talking about of course is the anal human maracas Coming back wow you that's a long time ago Well, I'm sorry for Putting the oral cancer in your head Back I'd love to have another pychomorotic that's been forever we had one last week It was two weeks ago. We just don't dress up in pajamas anymore Okay, yeah, we've evolved see that's how things have changed but the next time we have one you're welcome to come and do some I could just come to the fifth Monday of any month any month and that's a pychomorotic Thank you very much Harry Harry is our new what's the name he does stuff he does graphics you do graphics I'm the grand design chair at threshold. Yes, that's it I know he's on chairs I Make this Great Hey, you were plugging the female address in the last show I listen to so here I am reaching out I want to say thanks for the show. I've been diving more deeply into my own exploration of kinkin BDSM So it's been very helpful and enjoyable to hear your antics and advice boogie.
We have antics and advice What is it? Where we have all those products like the Roadrunner and Coyote? Yes, I guess we are like the Roadrunner Yes, am I the Roadrunner that just consistently fucks everything up and you just I thought I was getting you said no you're the Roadrunner meet me. I just you know why don't you just make the sound I will be a fat Roadrunner You can be an old tumble runner and I'll be broken coyote.
He'll be limpy boy. What the kids like that cartoon We're just fucking remote Isn't fast anymore. Yeah, Roadrunner has a meth problem Coyote did like nine years and Someone's face on fire. They just get real creative Before I burn my fucking head off I let me finish it It makes me feel more connected to the community especially since I live in LA and visit threshold sometime So thanks again.
I look forward to continuing to learn and hang out with you all do we know Felix? I think so sure here We don't know topics and we don't know names I Don't even know This is some weird Rick and Morty thing Yeah Morty Season 4 one day one day look at everyone in the room just it's like a like a prayer a humble prayer thing I literally just said season 4 Rick and Morty someday and like five people in the room just went yay I Will pray for the for the redemption that is coming one day The revelation to fill in the gap we have a new venture brothers for the first time in like four years The Rapture of Rick and Morty season four can we go on please if you do not have the mark of Rick and Morty on your hand You cannot buy yourself products and you will die. I have no idea. That's some revelation I used to be a preacher Not so random I'm gonna bring the room down You don't get to have I'm gonna bring room down faster than an out-of-place rape comment and here we go Alright, so I just wanted to say this because every now and again I have to say this and and we have amazing listeners and they're so interactive now.
We have so much you left a minute you started Yeah, no, she's just getting her cheat are you just gonna be good Skin the pop her. She's gonna. Well, she's you know She's a good girl. She's just let's just listen to her go ahead open the back I told you guys the time where bunny and and you were watching me Have sex with some girl in the bed like a voyeur thing and bunnies literally has a giant bag of cheeto puffs And I'm like totally fucking this girl on the bed.
We're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, and bunnies just like I can do it I can do it and you's just like you're gonna make noise you're gonna disturb them I'm like and I'm just like hearing this going on and I'm trying not to laugh like fucking this girl This is supposed to be like a cold boy or thing and all you hear is just And then all of a sudden it gets quiet. I'm like yeah, you like this and I just hear And I look back Turns into total comedy comedy this is the this is the love that we have here in the love Alright, so I'm just gonna read this response And then we'll talk about because a lot of people talk about our patreon account Which is where people who believe in perfect podcast donate some money The hard-earned money which is amazingly appreciated and I am so grateful for the people that right now are Have some cash and and they support the show because obviously we need it We have to buy lots of stuff. I got five six grand worth of equipment here and But I get a lot of suggestions from people, you know, cuz we say we're broke, you know, whatever people give a lot of suggestions And a lot of times, you know, like lass and this person I'm gonna talk about my response today You know, and they're like, oh, you're patreon kind of kind of sucks, you know, you don't really do a lot there You know, it's about perks and you got to do, you know, things and more shout outs and more of this and you got to offer things So if they give money, you know, you got to do, you know, all of this, you know And and I've heard this now over the like the last couple years and so I had a response I'm just gonna read my response and then maybe we can talk about it or just let it go I surely agree that that is what improves motivation to donate But it's also a little sad that I have to dance and jump through hoops beyond the endless hours that I put in on creating a show for our listeners It's no longer enough that you inspire people with your work or music or art to have value to a person It's now about what's more in it for me We do shout outs to our supporters every time someone signs up But doing it excessively means that they are not giving money to support our show They are now giving money to advertise themselves, which they should just pass to advertise them That is actually shitty feeling that the values might work on the show So in some ways if I have to jump through so many hoops for people to believe in my work and part with their money to support it Then apparently my work doesn't stand for its own and I would encourage you to keep your money And do that because there there's that time I come from the I had I've spent the last since I was three years old Trying to be an entertainer. I've spent literally hundreds of thousands of dollars of my own money Spent and lost to create and to make art and I came from a time where when people believed in what you did They bought your tape or your CD or they believed in the thing that you did and then when the record industry crashed I had a record deal just at the crash never even got a record on the shelf because I had three different distributors It just went belly up got lots of airplay totally went nowhere because the industry had fallen apart and people were trained Nobody stopped nobody told people that there's value in the art I hate calling it art, but let's just say that that people take their time and they dedicate themselves to their art And there's no longer a value in that you should be able to steal that and have it for free which forced all of the artists I have an album I spent $20,000 on I have had thousands of downloads on Spotify with it And I've made $100 because I get paid 0.02 cents per download So there comes a point to where you're kind of like, you know I understand that this may work But you also have to understand that there's got to be some integrity I got to feel like what we do has some value beyond just all the little perks and oh, you know We'll do this and we'll make you jingles and we'll think you know things like that So I just kind of I just decided I'm not gonna do anything and jump through hoops The people that donate to us right now are doing it because they believe in the show nobody is obligated to give us money I am not asking you for any of your money Everyone's tied on cash if you have something to donate and you believe in us great But I just I just am I off base here for saying that no, you're absolutely not off base It's just that you are allowed as an artist to do whatever the fuck you want with your art Sure, and this podcast is our art and it's what we offer people and one would think that that is enough that that you put it out There and you get to listen to it for free and if you feel like don't you donate but to ask for more See it does seem kind of ridiculous on the other hand.
This is patreon.com. That's how it works That's how things work. That's how people have been trained that it's no longer just oh, this is about this art It's like oh, what else can I get this is about me and then when it gets really obnoxious? It really is you're not interested in the show you want shout outs and all these things and us to suck your dick on the show You're advertising yourself for five dollars, you know, so or whatever So I'm just saying there comes a time where as someone who does math and has worked in major marketing You're getting a pretty good deal and we're jumping through more of you And I just like when every time every once in a while we'll get and I should I don't like we don't like going into numbers Or talking specifically really don't get that many donations And what we get is very little and this is the hard-earned money of these people absolutely who don't ask for anything in return They don't email less they just send it and we'll get an email saying someone has just given you five bucks and it just Fills me with so much happiness to know that that somebody out there just gave me five bucks And if you don't think five bucks is a lot I'm happy that you're living such a great life If you take out a five dollar bill tear it in half and then give it on your light it on fire And tell me how much that hurts because it will I guarantee you you're not gonna want to see your five bucks go up and flame So it always is a stunishes me and I feel so honored that somebody has given me Their money in the same way that I feel honored whenever I'm listening to a podcast for free And I know that these that this person is putting it out there for me or people like me You know what else I feel that same value with our emails because those are genuine Yeah, cuz I'm broke So, you know, I don't have a lot of money to donate to a lot of things But when you write that email to us and you let us know, you know that that you feel empowered bias and stuff like that That feels amazing that I mean I of course I'm sad that we don't get any hate mail because you know I grow from that But it does it is when you know that you just what you do is enough You know that validation it really kind of inspires us and so I know it's kind of bringing the mood down and stuff But I just felt I wanted to say because I'm just like I'm 50 years old And I'm like I've spent literally hundreds of thousands of dollars on equipment and things and learn to write music And I don't really have much to show for it a lot of people you know got it, you know So I just need to do this cuz I enjoy doing it and jumping through hoops.
I just don't think I'm gonna enjoy yeah That's what I'm thinking. You go girl That's right. I am mom I don't know what button this is I need glasses. I'll buy my own glasses.
Don't I'm not guilty But if you do want to send us a dildo or something I will ram it in somebody He was just volunteered crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch Thank you sticks So this is from listener Smith another great name who says that now that I'm 30 episodes deep by I've come to the conclusion that you guys know What you're talking about? Listen to 33 episodes and then it'll click You were obviously very drunk for those 30 episodes just don't sober up road You just pack that down he goes on to say not all the time, but maybe about this There we go the other day I read a post about how rope bondage can't and it sounded like always does cause cumulative nerve damage that freak me out So I started doing a bit of research on what exactly are the risks can getting slapped in the face cause brain damage can getting Be hard enough on the ass cause internal bleeding I read some answers on fat life and did some googling But I'm really unsure about the credibility of the information. I'm reading I really don't know don't want to nerve damage up my limbs despite my extreme enjoyment of being bound And I want to start making one form decisions. I know I could look for workshops or even a king-friendly doctor But I'd rather start with reliable information.
I can meet on my own if possible Don't you're dismissing the two things you probably should do which is go to workshops and find a king-friendly doctor. Yeah Yeah, these oh, yeah, yes, don't act all like you know better than a doctor. Go go to I do Let me tell you you and I have been to a lot of doctors Thank you very much We actually had listeners who've asked us what reading material can you recommend and there are the staples out there? But you're not really going to find published works out published works out there in which they detail the kind of stuff You're looking for your best shots are workshops talking to these people talk reading the many Absolutely, you need to find your own community does not sound to me I could be totally wrong But from the email didn't sound like listener Smith is involving himself or herself in the king community or in the rogue community And you really need to get out there and start if there is a community that you can't and if not you can start here Because we do have some answers about these things and the first answer is addressing all of the face-lapping giving you brain damage Spanking's giving you internal bleeding rope doing damage.
You know what? You're right if I hit you with a fucking two by four across your face You will get brain damage if I hit you with an aluminum baseball bat at full force in your butthole You could get some sort of organ damage absolutely Hey girl, sorry, it's well. I mean those are bad aluminum bad away. There is no at And absolutely people have gotten nerve damage from yes, not even incorrect bondage It's just everyone's nerves are slightly a little bit to the left or the right of the other and so yes even good bondage can result in an accident However, the more somebody is trained the more they go to workshops the more they investigate the risks We have a thing that we say risk-aware consensual king.
Yes, everything has a risk taking a shit people die I don't know I think like something like 500 Americans die every year taking a shit They get a hard time. Well a lot of people take a lot of meds and so they get really really constipated. That's what happened Elvis So you're pushing pushing the one guy everybody knows yeah, and so you have a heart attack and die So the point is is that you are correct at the the highest level of paranoia Everything has some level of risk to it. We have no evidence.
I have never seen a single real study that says prolonged spanking at a normal human level Um has caused internal damage. Well, we have well like my the thing that happened with um baby girl seraphine where we put her into shock After her birthday spankings the three of us her daddy and her aunt phoenix we went out of and she went into shock Sure, and we're talking about three seasoned tops people. No, no, and you never know what's gonna happen This is somebody you guys excuse me have played with for a long time Yeah, and I've played with her I've been in relation with her for like over four years and yeah, it was just like a weird thing So things can happen there are risks and you absolutely have the right to be as paranoid as you want about those risks and protecting yourself You want to protect yourself against STI's stds? Absolutely be as paranoid it, you know protect yourself That is okay If you want to play then your best bet is to assess those risks and find and be patient To wait for people that you can vet and screen and talk to and make sure they know as much as they can know Get to know them in order to perform some of these things in a safer way, but there is nothing in this lifestyle that is 100% safe No, it's like saying oh my god.
Are you telling me that I could get in a car accident if I go outside driving? Absolutely. Yeah, it's good But if you are lucky enough to be in a city or an area where you have a rope community Absolutely get yourself involved because that is the best place you're ever going to find To get information from these people who have been doing it for a long time and they can give you all the answers that you want But it sounds to me I'm this is a shot in the dark It sounds to me like this is the kind of person who wants to read as much as they can get all their ducks in a row before they even Get into anything intense and I don't know that that's always such a great thing because you're never going to get all the information that you want before you start Yeah, that's true. Yeah, so you're saying that's not gonna ever jump in the pool Well, we've had we've actually had a couple of emails like this where we get people asking what are the best resources What can I read give me some information?
I can sync my teeth into before I get out there and I understand that these are total bookworms and this is how they approach the unknown and I get that Unfortunately, this isn't that doesn't always work and as I said in the community. There are staples out there Jay Weisman's books are great. What else can you recommend? I mean that all you have to do is go on We had the teas for a while for a while Scared her out you scared anybody off Remember to teach you to the book review should read like the topping book the bottoming book Yeah, things like that and there's but in all honesty You're not gonna find information in those books that you can't find in other places to this is it's not like you have a community Even on fat life Jay Weisman's go to JY.
I'm sorry, but I'm a big advocate of his go to his profile And he has so much free writing on there so much information that you can get and he also lists people that you can follow that have equally good information So yeah, you're gonna if you read a bunch of posts you're gonna hear somebody talk How this horrible thing happens someone else talk about how oh you don't have to be that crazy You have you do have to do a little bit of searching on fat life to find the maybe the handful of people that you feel comfortable with Who seem to know what they're talking about but once you do find them in my opinion following them is a good way to start Yeah, you just have to jump in that's what I did I just jumped in the deep end of course you know I'm not gonna suggest just jumping in because you can jump into someone's trunk, you know Not everyone has a community I am I always go back to the fact that if you don't have a community Then you really do have to be a little more paranoid and you really do have to work in vet And if you don't have a community then you need to have shows like pervert a podcast and books You know by people like Jay Weisman and those types of things and you really just have to do your homework and be risk-aware for yourself risk-aware consensual Can't get it's a very simple concept and the more that you prepare yourself the more you can make a decision for yourself And if ultimately you decide that you are that's that risk is too much for you Then you are absolutely within your rights to not do that thing But but we have not seen a lot of people get internal bleeding from a spanking. It's about as likely as a lightning strike. It's pretty sure Yes, yeah research is fine read books get your basic knowledge But in this lifestyle what we do it really is hands-on You can read all about rope and how to do this and undo that But you're not really gonna know until you start tying somebody Yeah, and the best way to do it is in the presence of someone who knows what they're doing Yeah, you can watch you or just give you more answers It's all about practice and you can learn you can read how to throw a flogger But until you throw it, you're really not gonna know it's not gonna teach you how it's just gonna give you the basic understanding of it So yeah, do some research get some basic knowledge But then go out and do it don't worry extremely about the risk be aware of them But doing that is like you know, I go on WebMD when your fingers numb next to you know you have lupus My fingers dumb and now I got this butterfly rash over my face It's a side effect of lupus some of you should be in the know about that And if you are in a community once again, I'm gonna keep coming back to that Then go ahead and be paranoid and and if you're gonna play with somebody who says they know what they're doing Then you need your safe calls You need things in place and you may need to have a chaperone for that placing and I know people that have done that that have actually brought somebody To to help them, you know when they play with somebody in private and you yeah, you know what I told creative explorer This a while ago and he actually doesn't remember the very first person I ever played with with some guy who asked me to spank him And I'm like yeah I'll spank I'd never done it before right and I didn't feel that comfortable doing because I'd never done it and he said I know somebody who could you know watch and make sure and he called in creative explorer who sat in the corner back When the jail cell was the garage remember right and he sat in the corner watch me spank this dude And he doesn't remember doing that that was the first time I met him that was the first time Oh how special you're doing what you're gonna do well. I guess uh, are we gonna wheel a king someone?
Well, we were we were Oh going to fist Michelle and by we had together just like all of us Hello, baby. Hello, my darling This is not desire you in her little hands. Yes, she even cut her fingernails and every board She was desperately looking for an every board For advocating for yourself because she got here That's just the most dead clap. I mean every like I know we're supposed to clap Absolutely To get to a podcast know that you're gonna be the the closing attraction see a bunch of people and let everybody down by standing up for yourself Insane, I don't feel comfortable being fisted in front of I don't really think we care and if the listeners care You know then come back maybe next week and and then another time another time we'll definitely do it But someone want to spin the wheel, but oh wait wait I don't have to something to point out that boogie is actually my my fisting pimp Yeah, he's my fisting pimp because everyone that is actually fisted me well, you know, she's got small hands But has been his girls Okay No one else is fisted me completely and soon you so you're my my fisting pimp.
Oh, you're a pimp boogie Wait a minute. I'm to the fist or I'm no I'm the brothel. I'm like the madam. Oh I'm the madam.
I'm the one that goes. Hey darling Come down here. I'm gonna make sure you get a good. I got a couple girls.
Yeah. Hey get over here Get out of shake your fucking tiny ass over here. Yeah It is horrible and feel good We look into the walls who's gonna spin the wheel of cake. I just we never have a prep There's all these weird stuff written on there for someone else.
Yeah, you're gonna spin the wheel of king get over there Hold them wheel of king cup. We get something. Does that say click rubber band? Yeah, it does I'm not doing that either She got a cane and she's coming back all right well then let's uh you want to turn your mic around get over here then It's her favorite thing.
She got lucky. I think she greases that wheel or something All right, put your microphone right in her ass Hands on the wall like that. That's it. Now.
Just get your microphone right there. Just get it. Go ahead. No, no, no There you go.