167: Lindsay Clancy, Joan of Arc, and the Voices that Tell Us to Kill (1)

This is a follow-up to Episode 166, in which Ellen made a comparison between St. Joan of Arc and Lindsay Clancy. Some folks commented that either they couldn't listen to the episode, because the comparison struck them as too bizarre (or even outright blasphemous), or they asked Ellen to help them connect the dots. Fr. McCarthy joins us to talk through some of the objections that were voiced, in an attempt to overcome those barriers, so that we can move on to part 2, in which we will try to answer the question: If you hear a voice (whether disembodied like Lindsay Clancy and St. Joan of Arc, or embodied), how do you know whether to follow it? How do you know if it's from God? In this, Part I, we will address some of the objections to the comparison. Thank you for joining us! 0:00 Opening Prayer & IntroOVERCOMING BARRIERS: Part 14:38 "But St. Joan of Arc never killed anyone." --What does it mean to be a killer?13:20 "But she wasn't told to kill people. She was told to save France."--1983 USCCB peace pastoral: "There is no notion of a warrior God who will lead the people in historical, violent conflict against enemies in the New Testament." 20:54 "Lindsay Clancy was told to kill innocent, defenseless children while Joan was told to kill grown men, armed for battle, who were trying to kill her."24:48 WHY Joan couldn't question her Voices32:02 Cautionary words from Fr. McCarthyto be continued in Part IIPlease help keep this podcast going!Buy your "Infallible Jesus" t-shirt here: https://catholics-against-militarism.checkoutstores.comBecome a CAM supporter for $3, $5, or $10 a month. https://www.buzzsprout.com/296171/supportMake a one-time gift to Ellen at Venmo:Ellen-FinniganFind CAM here:  https://catholicsagainstmilitarism.comRSS feed: http://www.buzzsprout.com/296171​Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/CAMpodcastFind Fr. McCarthy here: https://www.youtube.com/@UCzhMjN5VMFu6S_v3MaSeUfg www.emmanuelcharlesmccarthy.comSupport the showFind CAM here:  https://catholicsagainstmilitarism.comRSS feed: http://www.buzzsprout.com/296171​Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/CAMpodcast