#169 - Author Conversation: Counting Spoons by Kathryn Inman

Conversation between Dr. Shaw, Jim Quigley, CJ McMurry, & Kathryn Inman about current events, addictions treatment and ministry. 1:30 What is the significance of these verses to Kathryn? (Eph. 2:4-7) 4:21 How God used the writing process of Counting Spoons in Kathryn’s life 8:47 Glimpse into “God’s Purposeful Sovereignty” (Piper quote from the book, Providence) 10:20 Some of the God-ordained connections that happened at The Addiction Connection Summit 11:02 A sibling’s perspective 14:06 “Success” vs. the long journey of discipleship in addictions ministry 15:12 Jim on relapse 18:20 A mother’s heart after several relapses of her son 19:45*** Can books like The Heart of Addiction: A Biblical Perspective push people further away from God? 22:04 A mother in law’s heart toward who God sent for her son 24:16 Justin growing up 28:29 About the title, Counting Spoons? 31:45 Kathryn on prayer (Her blog: https://www.kathrynminman.com/blog) 33:25 Mother story about son coming off the street 35:08 Jim’s on family members of those in addiction 39:01 Jim on the hopelessness of the addiction rehab world vs the biblical lens of hope 40:13 Kathryn responds to Jim’s descriptions of parents’ desire to fix the loved one and control the process 42:35 Desiring to disciple the parents of those in residential addiction programs 43:45 Jim’s gentle promise and admonition to the loved ones 45:30 1 Timothy 2:5 46:09 CJ’s encouragement: God’s workmanship (Eph. 2:8-10) 48:30 Kathryn on the Gospel's urgency for those in addiction ***Note: The Heart of Addiction is not a 'handout' book that you just give to someone exhibiting addictive behaviors. While it is written directly to the person struggling with an addiction, it is clear in the book that readers need someone more mature in their Christian walk reading it alongside with them. If you want to just hand out The Heart of Addiction to people, please commit to reading it with them. It's a great opportunity to meet and talk about it with them to help clarify things and help them understand who God is, and who He isn't, and what salvation is and what it isn't, and what the Bible is for, and how to live out the Christian life. CJ refers to Piper’s phrase “purposeful sovereignty” and more on that can be found in the interview, “Are God’s Providence and God’s Sovereignty the Same?” Desiring God, found at https://www.desiringgod.org/interviews/are-gods-providence-and-gods-sovereignty-the-same accessed June 23, 2022. Mark Shaw is the Founder of The Addiction Connection, author, speaker and professor. He serves as the Director of Counseling at Grace Fellowship Church in Florence, KY. CJ is a CABC with The Addiction Connection and serves on TAC’s Board of Directors. At the same time, he is the Program Director of The Refuge. Jim Quigley is a CABC and Chairman of the Board of TAC. He also serves as Director at Freedom Farm Ministries in Boone, NC.