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EPISODE · May 13, 2026 · 1H 7M

169: "Shout" vs. "Relax" (w/Justin Lewis)!

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It's the mid-'80s and two bands have figured out that what people want is British guys giving commands in two-note chanting choruses. Which is the best more-chorus-than-song song of the mid-'80s, "Shout" by Tears for Fears or "Relax" by Frankie Goes to Hollywood? Thank you to special guest Justin Lewis, check out his great book "Into the Groove: The 1980s: The Ultimate Decade in Music History" which you can pre-order in the US here or buy in the UK here! Song vs. Song Patreon here! Please donate, we need you. And as always — if you have the time and money to spare, please consider donating to any of these causes in the fight for trans rights:Transgender Law CenterTrans LifelineDestination TomorrowGender-Affirming Care Fundraising on GoFundMeAlso, please consider giving your local congresspeople a call in support of trans rights, with contact information you can find on 5Calls.org.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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