Is bloodcrutch there wait I gotta see if I'm good block rocks Oh we we did That's scary man, okay, so an ant an ant does not have anything to fiddle with that will make noise You have your vagina your nipples you have all sorts of things that you can you can do I'm gonna make noise with my boobs. Yeah, so I know now is that I'm like okay We're gonna start the show, but I kind of want to hear what type of boob noises that you can you can find them like seals This is gonna be great Following show is for mature audiences only listener discretion is advised and if you don't like it, please go fuck yourself Do you feel your sex life is quite lame? Scared that your desires might be strange Come and join the kick world of play Hello welcome to the pervert podcast the show where we explore the adventures of the kinky lifestyle sex and perversion recording live From the threshold of lab in North Hollywood, California front of our perverted studio audience hello perverts I'm and I'm and I am count boogie and there's hunger over there that in his throne with the fucking giant So put it on you can't even see his face that is awesome. Oh my god.
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All right. So Kathy. Yes here. Here.
We are we're doing very well today It's a Your idea You know everyone is at a chance to sit in it and and and never has no and and we're very happy that you are finally sitting in the Hot seat. Thank you for having me boogie. Oh, you're supposed to be that's her So Kathy what's going on with you pervert podcast hello audience. I got a very Normal boring weekend.
How about you? I'm sure you didn't my weekend said to be very boring. It was good It was it was fun. I mean what was really exciting was yesterday Bunny was over and who by the way is not gonna be in for about nine weeks because she had a little mix up with her school schedule And she did have monday nights off specifically so she could be here for the podcast But there's something messed up and so she's gonna have to do the next nine weeks No bunny for nine weeks.
I mean we get her so we get to the podcast the podcast gets me you yes We still have you you is here and bringing the magic But it was really it was actually kind of exciting because you know bunnies exploring her top He's side a little bit more and of course you is kind of a bottom slut does and so she's very volunteering But what was really exciting there's it was a two for that was exciting We go out to go get some things, you know some sewing supplies for bunny to sew some stuff and and there was an ice cream place next door I'm like okay, I'm ice cream and of course money's like yeah I gotta have ice cream so we go in there and it was one of these places that has like a drug store in it and stuff like that and they serve ice cream and And and mu is like oh I need a flu shot for you know the research stuff She does at the hospital and she just tuddles off to go get a flu shot And as we all know from talking on the show, you know This is somebody who had a horrible phobia of shots and things like that and we worked really long And you know we've told the story on the show before so she was just like very matter of fact Oh, I need to shoot flu shot going go and do it you really and they weren't there and she was like already to like just Just you know like handle it you know just like I'm gonna just gonna go handle it So we're like okay, well we'll go again and she thought I was ready so we're back at the place We're in the left lab and post cootis and And and we're like well, what are we gonna do now and and and it was like well Do you guys want to do a little play and and mu all of a sudden it's like well? You can play with me, you know cuz bunny was in kind of a topi mood and she's like yes So she's getting excited and muse all of a sudden like well bunny bunny can put needles in me We just offered just offered to just put and I swear to God Mu I think imaginary crapper pants just like her face was just like cuz she's been dying to have like a you know To have a pet pin cushion and to practice her needles because she really loves needles receiving and she's just totally into the idea of giving them Whatever, so we actually did she put ten needles. I put one so she put nine needles in use back So it was just amazing was Not only the fact that you know bunny got a chance to put in needles Which she has the idiot fucking junior high boy face the entire time like not cool at all She does not have a darlin look she puts a needle in and looks back at me and her mouth is just open her eyes Honey you don't have cool fortune With a strap on fucking somebody and she looked over with a smile on her face and her tongue between her That is exactly how she looks at anything She's excited about so but it was also amazing cuz because me was just like well fuck it I was in the mood. I was ready to get my flu shot So I'm not gonna waste my my mojo and so it was just real cool.
It was just cool all around so that was a lot of fun Yeah, I'm good We've been waiting for this little story of yours that just ungers three holes It's been like two weeks in the making and I have kind of gone back and forth You know cuz I'm somebody with a little scattered thinking and and and I keep I keep asking myself Do I want to hear this? Do I want because I no longer has three holes For further podcast could you please tell whatever this three holes story is well most of the listeners know that I well and going off of your needle story There's no I do a lot of holes. That's one of my Joy and the on fetish things so I was in my trip I was in Georgia and I was doing a whole there and was a pretty massive hookball by the work the Most intense I've been through like a lot of people are just the size hooks or all yeah So the first hooks they put in me that pulled out so they had to put bigger hooks in later. They like strip out of you Yeah, oh There's two ways of putting hooks in somebody getting the needle in first right and then attaching the hook and inciting it through Oh, okay Or there's putting the needle on the hook and pushing it through as one unit, okay?
This was being done the second way and somehow neither of us ever seen this and the person doing it was actually a professional period And this was on you of course because it's under things happen when he pushed it up The hook went up but the needle using the force pushed on it shot out forward and came out of my skin About an inch and a half from where the hook was trying to push through the skin So it bent kind of inside of your skin and then shot it literally just literally shot like it had the pressure I'm using something to like a zip like a needle It's a get through your skin and then like once that forces overcome the forces still on it so the extra force And it's not like science Great out of my skin while the hook was trying to come back up through the skin Okay So it's the third hole with the needle shooting out the side or both of you going what the hell just happened because you've got like a hook Kind of pointing out with my skin against it Like like when they used to show the glad trash bag tests with the nail right It's looking like that where the hook's trying to push through I got a needle mostly out of my skin that shot out down an inch and a half away Interesting and we're both going what the hell so we finally pulled it out and use the needle to cut open the skin Where the need where the hooks trying to come out and come out uh-huh that sounds like a very very clean hook in search It was fantastic You don't actually experience that it's painful right no it was just kind of a what the hell I mean I feel things but I don't so there's for some reason there's something about you where you could pierce your skin And you just don't feel the pain doesn't register as pain. I can't explain it Can you still feel when something's like going through it? Oh, yeah? Oh, I feel it Okay, when they put one through my back there was a muck they tried to go under scars and that was fantastic And I actually felt it like pop through the scar tissue I just let it out because I can just if we're gonna squirm everybody has listeners Right along with this thing that happened that day as part of that whole They're just looking at their fucking thing going if I push it forward four minutes We love this stuff That was kind of a weird thing to happen on top of couples.
We also did one just but pull what we talked about the Last week here at threshold and that went quite well. I did not pull that day. I was facilitating I pierced most of the people right? That's time consuming it was yeah, I'll be one up here.
So we're eight people Which it was great It was a good little and you heard people clapping I mean I wanted to come in and watch but all of a sudden got like super family And I felt very like I'm just you know because they start like encouraging each other like you know cuz it's like a big deal Did like take you know, it's a very thick, you know, it's not like a little you know 25 gauge needle or something It's like you know, which is you know, which is you know over double the thickness. Yeah, this is body piercing Yeah, so it became it's just like very supportive and you hear everyone clapping for each other and it becomes like this whole Well, we also have one person He's done play piercing needles a lot and he's taken hooks a number of times But he hasn't actually done put somebody oh yeah He did that for the first time because I was able to be there We had two people do that actually one just to one side and one did both and that was fun because they're like how about here and I'm like See this vein let's avoid that here. That looks good. So I was able to That's good mentholed voice a karate artery good mentoring under Someone like you around to say that's a vein.
Don't tap that jump. It wasn't just a vein It was also like well the skins more a little more pliable here. This will probably be a better sensation, right? See and that goes along with you know, why we tell people whenever you're possible learn from people yeah, especially when you're doing H play learn from somebody or horrible story about that later But that's awesome.
That was cool. Yeah, I'm thinking the four minutes now for sure People are just like maybe I should put you know blood play, you know It's really quite astounding that I will listen to your stories of the weekend and ungers stories of the weekend And they could not be more opposite than mine pretty much on a regular basis. I think what'd you do this weekend? I helped someone clear out a garage.
What'd you do last weekend? Yeah, but then they hit you over and smack your ass What happened why are you trying to sound not you know like your life is you know you get some some funky monkey going on there? Funky monkey, but it's servicey Cathy and you like servicey. That's right.
You like servicey massive three whole hook pulls And you're craziness going on with meals everywhere and I'm just sitting there getting fucked again whoopee I mean Have plenty of hooks ready to go How about getting but while Unger puts hooks in you or while I pull Have you done police ex no, I don't like it. Are you interested in that? Do they cross mentalities for you? They don't I tend to do pulls as more of a community thing Right or a connecting thing with a person but not at the same time as sex It's a different a whole different experience and I don't I've never thought of putting it together one of which because you're pulling away Sure unless you get a pulley and hook it through their nose stop getting him ideas with a septum piercing I'll have a septum piercing I need I see that baby see then literally check this out You can put the hook and then run it from the top of the chest up through her septum piercing and then wrap that around her head And then pull from behind and it would be like I'm not thinking about suspension rig now run out run Kinda In that context, I think it's well first up and piercing like that's already healed over so that'd be more just like another like bondage point Right versus like if it's if it's the sensation of something going into a new hole with Shortly after and I mean if you don't mind me saying you were part.
Oh, yeah, okay I'll was I'll did her first hookball as part of that that night Why don't you get the hooks in it's not you don't really feel the hooks in you yeah I mean you can like move them around but it's like you don't really feel the pool Yeah, you feel the pressure from like the polling, but you don't really feel the actual hooks, right? Okay, it's interesting and what this I love how this is just turned into a hook pull play. Oh, it's now everyone 15 minutes of the show ship over yeah I didn't really feel it's either except for after a pull and then they would just go down and the shifting of the hook from Vertical to horizontal then we felt it but otherwise it was like it was more like hey You're pulling my chest not hook the both of you really it was a good experience for you. Yes What's it wasn't going to and then just like I said fuck it.
Yeah, I had fun Is there still kind of the pain though because like it hasn't it hasn't it's not like a heel Okay, I guess that's different from what I would expect yeah It's if you let it get crusty when you pull it out you might feel a little bit there Wow, did he just say if you let it get crusty I'm gonna call this copy Kathy has given me the pale blood out of her face wrap it up So I have ways of making it so so no more crusty bloody hook holes and so let's see okay 15 minutes into the show just Trusty hold things from panel may just skip it over. Oh, thank you longer a quick update on the patreon account I did go in and add a five dot five buck cuz you give a fuck Tier and so and we did we had some some more people sign up So we kind of fixed it and I changed some things and I realized that this name is on that from 75 weeks ago And you know I think we still have our video with me in a bit which I'm leaving that because it's a funny video It's it's a good it lets them know we are poor Detective from a key shaming world Joey get off the couch. We gotta go pick up Phoebe Indication I just I every time I hear that fucking jingle I think friends I used to be forced to watch that by girls that I wanted to fuck that were like first you must watch the friends Then you may have a body That could mean real friends or that could just mean the TV show yes I don't know Kathy what do you let's dig in all right? We have a post by mr.
Tads 75 wrote something called progress report I have a lot of this on felt like people write progress reports on the date and to give you progress on their life It's kind of cool. It's cool. Well, because then you can look back I have a lot of that when I first got sober like I can go way back in my writings and I can see how fucking fuck up I was and then just a little evolution of it. So it's kind of cool.
I mean it's what having a diary is so I've never been a blog. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It's a journal.
It's a diary He wrote I started my journey very cautiously attending an occasional mixer a social hour class and tons of online reading I cannot relate the number of hours spent listening to podcasts or reading online articles the more that I read and saw and witness the more that A mortal dilemma rose up inside me the images and actions depicted of bruising humiliation little fantasies and slave posturing were all morally against what I take to be a good man Yet they were also extremely hot and intriguing Eventually it became time to stop walking around the pool and actually get in the damn water some dippettoan others walk in one step at a Time I took a running start off a high-ballered cannonball for the ages approach in the past month I have found that I am a dominant primal hunter sadist sensualist and rigor top that feeds off of power exchange I was I able to go from feeling guilty about my desires to thoroughly enjoying seeing a sub's astrid turn red for my paddle The answer was so simple yet powerful consent I had to realize that just as I need to control a sub needs to submit just as I need to Flog a bottom needs to be flogged realizing that this entire lifestyle is about open honesty with each other has helped me find comfort In peace with who I am so for those out there that are new and are wondering what to do next or those that are being told That what they feel and how they choose to learn is wrong or even those that are scared about to expect I say this fuck Others opinions. This is your journey. It shouldn't look like anyone else's there are a few concrete rules in this lifestyle Safety consent and finally that nothing is objective everything is subjective I Like this post I love every one of these posts where somebody has to kind of journey through their social programming And I'm coming we talk about all the time and I'm I a freak for doing this is as bad. I'm hitting women Anytime I read a post like this.
It's very encouraging to see that so of course I'm initially just very proud of the poster and congratulations on your journey because of course I went through it and a lot of people went through it the you know But then like I told you before you know we can sit and just all agree you know and say you know this is this is great But there's there's something that I want to add in that because I never really thought of it this way So I'm just gonna throw out what I was thinking today and that is that That fear that social stigma That you know don't hit people don't don't harm people don't hit women. Those are all actually good social programs Those are actually things that are based on a lot of evidence of hundreds of millions of women being abused non-consensually So even though it's kind of like that fuck you attitude at the end I'm gonna do whatever I kind of have to bring myself back because I was like that You know I've always been like real rebel independent and I've always been like yeah I fuck you the system and I had to get over all that you know Programming and stuff like that But I also had to realize that that programming is in place for a reason and that it's actually not a bad struggle Like I think it's in poor I think if you don't have some sort of struggle about hitting people when you come into this lifestyle then Then you might have some detachment well It wasn't that long ago that you could beat your wife for burning dinner and you could hit kids and sure getting you know Lines wrong and such and I mean I can see that that's a very positive change in just the the culture of society and you know I mean you could It was just so easy to get away with things that you know we're domestic violence or child abuse and such But now I mean I think the biggest the biggest difference is consent obviously but it's It's coming I think it's coming to like more also in society right now with you know a lot of the whole kind of like Me too movement and stuff and everybody's kind of being like oh well that you know they did this or they touched me at Wherever there was harassment and stuff and it's being brought more to light than no you should not just touch people You should not just hug people in offices or you know you can't just slap something on the ass and stuff like that And it's a good it's a good shift in in mentality But I mean obviously it's hard with yeah with then wanting to be like oh yeah Like you know now I'm gonna go slap her ass you know at home because she wants me to sure yeah I actually talked about this two shows ago when I somebody was struggling with something and I said you know That's actually it's a good struggle. I want people who have that struggle It's the people who don't question that that I am afraid of because you want people to go internally and really Research within themselves what's going on where that desire is coming from where the line is gonna be drawn I want someone with that struggle and so I don't think it's a bad thing at all I this to me just an initial reading from what I can see this would be a safe person to play with at least I would imagine at the beginning because this is somebody who's asked themselves the question And if you've come through the other end of that internal investigation With a healthy balanced safe plan You're somebody I want to discuss playing with right because I trust you more I don't trust anybody implicitly, but I will trust you a hell of a lot more than somebody who does not question You know, so YouTube video I got this I want to fucking I want to smack some people around and not understand what the harm is Not understand yeah, or that outside of a consensual scene. That's a bad thing And it's also gonna make you more in tune with the fact of your partners I mean for me I play with women so to know that there is always a chance that the person I'm playing with Outside of kink has had a history where things have been done non-consensual to them where they've either been assaulted or abused harass any Number of those things so the fact that I've gone through that process Kind of makes me more patient up front when my partners when you're negotiating with them They say I have some triggers here or I had some bad pass so I'm gonna need this type of aftercare I'm an I'm I'm more prepared for that because I had that struggle So I think I'm a little you know, I'm a little more in tune I mean there's no guarantees that something's not gonna go bad or that you're gonna be the greatest You know player in the world But I really do think that gives people an edge and like this this person that that wrote all of this I mean listed a lot of people that they are that they look up to as far as these are people You know, they mentioned people we know in the community because I guess they're local and and and and so I think that process should just be I think that's the the process that should be encouraged because I think it's okay to get to that point to where We have to show the rest of the world that there is this other lifestyle where these things are We have thought about these things so it's not like we're just picking up things and hitting people and following our primal urges without any thought or rationality or Safety measures so I think it's important for the world to still be on their guard I think there's still that that in general a lot of the rules that people put you shouldn't do this You shouldn't do this.
I think a lot of those should be in place still and and that we have to go through that process Yeah, this weekend I'd forgotten we were playing like we normally do and I've talked about times where he he spanks me so hard And so continuously without relenting that it is it sends me into this place where I'm sobbing and very emotionally upset So anybody watching that would not understand what is what was going on and the only reason I will allow him to do this to me Is because of the extensive soul searching he has done the extensive discussions that we have had each time afterwards So he understands why I'm having that reaction and he's got my back They don't see all the stuff that goes on behind the scenes And I would most certainly not allow anybody to treat me like that who did not go through that internal struggle first creative explorers share something with you Boogie that that terror that probably a lot of men feel that a woman is then going to turn around and say he raped me He did this without my consent and you have no recourse because it's your word against mine, sure and so Fear in my opinion in that regard is a healthy thing fear that you're going to be persecuted fear that you're going to hurt someone beyond A place where they can heal fear that there's something mentally wrong with you I'm sorry, but those are good things and I want you to go through that struggle and when you come out the other end Let's see where you are and let's see if we can play but otherwise fuck. No, I'm not I don't think there's ever a point. I mean I've been doing this, you know in the in the public scene for 10 years now You've been I think 11 you're like 11 or 12 maybe you're just like right after whatever, but it's just Even after 10 years I question I still question what I do on a regular basis I think it's really for me I can't because I'll forget the basics That's why as much as it drives me crazy to have to come in and teach orientation twice a week for the last years I know that those basics are so important and it's so easy to get to a point to where you forget those basics You know because if it's not in front of me, I'm not gonna think about it So I think that reevaluation I think however you put yourself I mean I do it with orientation and of course we do the podcast we're always talking about a lot of those basic things and negotiations and consent and All of these things that just become second nature to us Well, there is a point if you detach yourself from those basics that you're gonna forget some of them And some of those basic rules and you know, I don't want to say it has to do with the topic We're gonna talk about it a little bit, but it could that's when accidents can happen. Yeah, I think we need and and if lashes again Oh, yeah, I just I just like We got a nipple we got a beer snip two boobs.
We got to leave those out any okay I want to kind of just something to say a little bit sidelined from the post But what he was saying, you know, you can read about it You can you know listen to podcasts and stuff But I think like a visual thing is you know, make such a difference like seeing something or experiencing something Because even you know, I was thinking about the Saying you know kind of doing all those research and sometimes even watching like BDSM porn if they don't have kind of in the beginning some Some some of them have like they'll be like hello. What's your name? Like, you know what you're here to do, right? And so they have like a mini negotiation obviously a lot longer behind the scenes But that actually will make it so that I'm even more engaged in it versus like if it just starts right out and they're like, you know Slap in somebody air like they're just tied up or you know when pipes and hanging from the ceiling I'm kind of like not as it's a lot harder to be like, yeah, this is great versus like you're like Okay, like yeah, you kind of you still have the mindset of yes, there was consent.
Yes, there was you know Kind of the whole background. You don't have to show all of it But it's nice to still remember that it's there. Yeah, that was another element is post that we didn't really go into but yeah, that's a good point It's good. I get you're ready boogie.
I'm raised because this is your topic coming up. You're like very angry about it Oh, yes, if you're gonna play in public. Yes, there is a way dungeon etiquette will be expected from you Preverted podcast will teach you how not to be a douche Thank you Oh my god, Kathy I'm not I don't want to surprise anyone in the room, but cow boogie me I might have a bit of a Little bit of an anger issue now I don't be shocked You know, I might have a little bit of a a flabbergasted Keep your gas and flabbers. I like your flabbers hang out right now.
It's gonna nice I may have a little problem with self-righteousness Oh, but it's sinking Kathy. Okay, the man you have known for ten years might have some issues blow me away self-righteousness But on this occasion yes on this rare occasion I feel I am justified And I feel that as the person in charge of constantly dealing with people's just liquids Failures in dungeon etiquette their failures in how they were raised their failures in looking around their failures and having even an ounce of fucking consideration Anyone but them fucking sells You know at some point you need to say and this isn't necessarily for those people because I'm pretty convinced that the people that actually need our show Aren't listening our show because they think they know everything and not that we know everything But we do know more than most people who are brand new at least we have a big opinion And we've been around for a while and we have a lot of experience from a lot of other people So some of the things we say take it with a grain of salt But on this one I'm just gonna fucking own it say it don't sit nude with your fucking herpes shit Stained junk sweaty piss ass on furniture and then get up like your crotch clob staff infection farm fluids are a fucking gift you fucking pigs You shit eating fucking raised by fucking wild wolves pigs fuck off wipe your fucking couch So I felt strongly about that, huh? Tell us how you really feel I just I come in the morning after dark desires and apparently some fuck Which there was two of them because we don't allow people to play by themselves So that means there was other people in the fucking stupidity involved and the entire couch is covered with fucking lube Which means they rolled around naked There's handprints all over the floor and they just lubed the entire couch and it was just and then walked the fuck away Wow, no DM stopped him huh? And yeah, no apparently no DM saw you know and it's maybe it's dark or whatever so of course I might have Been so motivated to write a letter you did not how many times I've told you not to write when you're angry No, I waited the right I read it half the day I waited till four that's usually not enough for boogie's anger to subside And so I just I just said hey for those of you that don't understand and I'm sure that your mother's told you that you were the cleanest Baby why you gotta throw that shit in say that's well I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt that you're not so completely fucking retarded that you don't know that any time You sit on something no matter how much you wipe your ass There's little pieces of poop in it and they're running down to your your gentle and this is male or female When you sit on a couch naked naked your junk that has fluids and sweat and fecal matter and whatever you have on you You are now leaving on that couch You're leaving it on that piece of furniture now everyone in the dungeon is pretty much well-trained that when you use a table or across You use the mad side and that you wipe off your tables So because other people are gonna be on it But for some reason like the couch is like oh I'm just and I see dudes doing it all the time fucking submissive man They're little fucking collars and they're fucking just like I just get to sit right here They're fucking hanging saggy fucking nuts and their little shit's named ass and they just sit and these are vinyl couches And they just sit and then they get up and walk away.
Yeah, I've seen it happen. It is pretty disgusting I've also seen women in short skirts just sit down without tucking their skirts underneath and so their asses are just They're G-strings on and I'm like I don't think I want to sit on that couch anytime soon And it's just yeah, so yeah, because the couch is pretty much anywhere in the dungeon or in any dungeon are meant for Socializing and watching people do play and if you spank on a counter that's fine There's nothing wrong with that and at the very least if you are naked on a couch treat it like it's a playstation Clean the area if it's a cloth couch, which if you have a dungeon you have cloth furniture fucking more on you just a fucking moron But we don't have cloth furniture We have one chair and I hide it in every every certain rentals that are like big sex orgies I just hide all the you know the one cloth chair, but just think about that no precious fucking crotch is nothing male female I don't care how hot you are and it's not healthy for you because you're going and somebody else has been there You know, this is how you just laying your genitals on some where someone else has had their genitals. Yes, and you're like how did I get that that yeast infection UTI because somebody else's feces just got shoved up my Hey, I'm totally with you on this I think it's disgusting, but I can't understand how you can forget You know just like because it doesn't we're so like you're right. We're so careful about play equipment We've been trained we could do that shit in our sleep you clean it down after you're done playing on it But on someplace where you're relaxing you forget so a lot of times it's just incumbent on the people around you to remind that person Who just sat down wearing nothing but a G string that you either should lay something down before you sit down or wipe down afterwards Yeah, I go to create a explore time.
He's got these pieces of material that sit on the chairs every time I Count you wouldn't even allow to sit and you can touch the material Leave it to hand and think there's just certain things about Wash your hands after you touch things, you know, you're gonna go bathroom. Yeah, well, no, you know, it's hard enough I mean, I'm sorry. I hate to give you the statistics I go to the bathroom a lot because you know I'm a human and we go to the bathroom a lot and I'm gonna say probably about 60% of the time and just walk right out Oh, I know they just walk right. I don't know how are women the same not generally But especially if if we've got our period or if you've just taken a dump you fucking wash your hands Yes guys in pieces shit.
I work at a place with 30 other men I'm the only woman there and there's one fucking bathroom Are you the Nazi are you the bathroom? No, because I can't go telling 30 guys what to do so I've grown accustomed to every time I use it bathroom I come in with the cleaner the spray bottle clean down the toilet and then after I wash my hands I won't touch anything I like use the paper towel to turn off the light and open the door because 30 guys whipping out their Dicks taking a piece. They're not gonna wash their hands afterwards. So everything I touch I'm basically touching their penises I'm basically touching 30 penises every day.
I go to work. So that's dirty girl 30 weens a day no I get the disgusting micro bacteria Fall out of those I just don't know how you pee even with a penis and then not like even it I know what you're supposed to shake it right? I like an an anzooing this like sort of cowboy moment Like a lot of people the penis I don't know Hate to break a T and Ann but most penises are not that long That was just like a literally like a 27 inch fucking radius You know you're just waiting for him You need to get a male friend of yours to let him watch you And I would you like to hold my penis while I pee so you can have that experience? Not really No, don't offer that Shut down Probably well both the girls have used me so you're in a place where lots of people when you touch people you touch their genitals you touch things You're now going to go and touch other people and other things just and nothing's perfect We're not talking about you know look I'm giving everyone the benefit of the down sometimes you forget you're in you know you're in a space and you're okay fine Improve but shit like getting lubed up and rolling around on a couch and then literally walking away cuz fuck your top Fuck you you are in charge of that scene So if your bottom is in space because you have them rolling around on a couch And you don't have the fucking brains to tell them hey you need to clean this up fuck you Hey, you know what you should write an article for our next news letter Just tell the editor just I'm pretty fine.
I'll get you saw that letter. Yeah, is it incendiary? It wasn't bad Look it's just I don't know it was just that it was a threshold party I totally like yeah the gay man's orgies you it's all dude you expect and it's a constant battle But they have it pretty much under control But every now and again you got a jack-off contest on a fucking mirror or a shitfield condom somewhere and I'm used to that But when it's like at our parties I have this like expectation this what oh, I'm sorry. I'm the janitor Yeah, I get to see these types of things Well you fuck someone in the ass and then there's shit on the condom and you pull it off it turns inside out and lucky I was thinking like like a kind of yeah, you're gonna play with an ass.
There's it should happen Yeah, I'm just letting you know these are so this is why I get grumpy. I really can't eat I need another job. I know if you guys if you're listening seriously if you're listening to the show Yeah, and you know something but you can do he'll do minimum wage man. Just get the fuck out of here Well, I won't do minimum No, no no, no, no, no, no.
If you're gonna get me a place to live unless santa Let's shit feel kind no Kathy. Yes, it will. I guarantee you will not be seeing that's called moving lateral That's called moving. No shit-to-shit.
I've been homeless enough times Kathy that I know that you have to get a better Is below minimum wage job. Yeah, but shitfield condoms, but still living in an amazing dungeon is the balancing act You wanna get out of here and I want to get out of here I just don't want to go to a worse place. So please if you're listening Do you have a place of white do you have a house in Maui do you have a house in Maui where you have an extra room? And you just want somebody there that's fucking cool.
It's just be cool. Huh? I have three gongs. Hunger.
He has gong will travel I was a little aggressive there wasn't he we just a tad aggressive, you know, it's just a play I'm just playing I see we should Probably check in with the chowro first. We have My god, oh wait, and that's giggly flies orgasm now It's like playing oldies, you know, it's like classic classic orgasms On Without any yeah, it's the best and I was wait for it. Just a hear him kind of lap like a I need a girl come here I Cross Cross Going on in the chat room not the one I'm in Okay, so we have the IRC one that we started blah blah blah we had the discord one blah blah blah and we're in the IRC chat I'm in the discord Monday show chat room, right and not much is happening and then I go to the discord No voice live chat and everyone's in there right now. There's nine people talking in voice see we've been Everyone's talking not in the show chat.
We've been in the non show chat. They don't like us anymore So all the people yes, I'm calling you out this week. This is it then I love us anymore It's one one chat room above. Oh now.
It's above us. So we're beneath them Where above it where above it? Oh, we're This week's chat then no voice chat and then it's the life of the voice well at least we matter somewhere if you live stream the podcast Then people will listen to it right here live stream. No, no, we can't Talk about dad jokes in the non show podcast I can't hear it because it's the people actually talking So it's also random because they're talking and someone will type something that's really talking about speaking here But I don't know the context.
It's just funny to throw things out No idea. This is why no one's in the chat room is too hard. No chair room is full That's the wrong chair room if I if the anger weren't here you and I would be in the fucking dark ages We have a chat room Oh In the discord like the actual talk chat is pretty fun Yeah, there's a people and what your boobs go away chatting away right now because my dress was pulling cutting off the circles Yeah, we definitely don't want you to lose circulation in the boobs. Let's go boob spooky.
I'm like singular right? Yeah, I don't know. This is our pay. This is seriously I'm Surprising you you have all people want to go for one tough topic to the next this is too tough No, it's clean clean your fucking shit is like a like literally the thing you tell fucking five year old I get it.
These are so now we're gonna go to something a little more about the world and the show quite They really need more bit. Yeah, I Just we got an ends boob. We got that boob. Can you read that against the microphone like ASMR?
You have to do it do it. Just push the mic down. Yeah, this is She's smacking the microphone with her boo. Can you rub your piercing against the the phone?
You know like literally at least 60 perverted podcast listeners just whipped out their junk put that shit on a loop And they're just gonna jerk it to you rubbing your nipple against that microphone Follow sleep to that tonight. Just put it on Luke. They won't be able to tomorrow. They won't oh, that's right Shows gonna all right.
So here we go. I'm trying to put it off. No, I'm not um, it's just it's just um It's it's it's tough because two weeks ago Without understanding What had happened recently with this individual? I sang the praises of somebody that I really look up to that I've learned a lot We talked when we had the show a couple weeks ago about spiritual BDSM Or can there be spiritual or what is spiritual and whatever and I talked a lot about Master Skip and slavery and how they teach a lot here At threshold Unbeknownst to myself a certain incident a very tragic incident had happened with this individual that I've learned a great deal This is somebody Who has been in the community for years and years is just a very well-known teacher?
just a very from everything I've ever seen of Master's keep teaching is just a very powerful teacher and a very dedicated to Having a purpose being of service all of the things that you really look up to and Apparently it had just come to light like a bunch of newspapers and conservative reports and stuff had said cuz I had heard something about a year ago That he had kind of left the scene and nobody really knew why he had posted something Yeah, he had posted something and just said hey something very tragic has happened and I have to Pull away For now, you know cuz I have to take care of some things and some people and so everyone just kind of hey You know sorry to see you go kind of thing and and it turns out what had happened. I've read every article I could possibly find on this that He was involved in a kink related death That occurred with the mummification bondage, which is something we do on a regular basis We take cling wrap, you know like the palette wrap type things and then you wrap somebody up in it and you know And then you can play with them, you know in it and and there's a lot of different safety procedures Very popular. I mean kids do it on YouTube and you know I did it long before I was ever in the kink community it's something that a lot of people do and When done well can create amazing Experiences for people where they've regressed to like being in the womb and and there's a million different ways that can be looked at and some people It's a very spiritual experience or whatever and and apparently it was one of those things in his private dungeon That he had the person wrapped up. They've been play partners I guess for like seven months They've been saying so this is something that they had done a number of times before And wrap the person tightly in cling wrap head to toe You know left holes for the nose and mouth, which you know This is somebody who's been the lifestyle for a lot of years after the cling wrap after the cling wrap wrapped him in duct tape And some people are into the super tight when you start getting into the real edge play type mummification And this is where things can go bad and we've had other stories Where people have died in mummification for various, you know heart attack stroke, you know breathing problems That sort of stuff so apparently at some point during their play Master skip noticed that there was a problem went found the guy not breathing Called 911 called 911 did everything he was supposed to be right away didn't run didn't try to hide anything to make the long story short The person passed away and there were no charges filed which in a kink related death.
There's usually a bunch of shit So obviously with all the investigation whatever they saw this was an accident This was a cause of death was even inconclusive. They couldn't figure out why this person had died Yeah, the person yeah And you know some of the things that they said that the person had a very like one-tenth the amount you need to get high of GBH in Their system, so it doesn't mean that they were using it at the time or maybe they were there stuff that you just you know Unless you were there you don't know but he states on a police report that they did not do drug Yeah, never done. Yeah, and he's never been that type of person, but you know once again don't know but uh just incredibly Humbling It was to say the least because like I said this is someone I had heard about this a few weeks ago And I just blocked out of my head is gonna be our master skip, you know, it's you know, that doesn't happen to people who've been around for a long Time but it does hindsight. We don't know the person I guess the guy had a cold he had fluid in his lungs, which they said could have been because of He had a cold or something.
He also had They said that there was some constant could have been constriction from the bondage which did not allow him to breathe properly And if you already had a cold and flew it in your lungs and possibly even the remnants of some drug Right could all contribute to that Sure a lot of speculation because if even the police can't determine what the actual cause of death was then it's kind of how could anybody Notice on the other hand and what I'm about to say it really has nothing to do with this particular interest I know of master skip and I've seen him in classes and I've always admired him and his integrity But generally speaking when you're doing bondage of that sort It would make me very nervous not to be able to see the person's eyes the person's face the color of their skin to see how they're doing It would make me nervous. I don't care how big you make the holes where they breathe not being able to see The signs of someone in distress, right? So not even just distress I mean if they did if distress they can make noises or whatever but Just passes out that's a sign of distress And so you can't see that when somebody is wrapped head to toe in cling wrap and then duct tape So obviously very very traumatic thing to watch someone who is your lover that you've been in a relationship for seven months Pass away in front of you and I Just I can't imagine what that's like but something you said boogie is very important You never know this is somebody who is so well respected and has such a high level of integrity in his work and in his lectures That you would point to that person and say highly unlikely that something that bad would happen to that person but it did Yeah, because you don't know the contributing factors when you when you obviously do this is edgeplay This would get him to consider edgeplay And you don't know what factors are contributing to that person's distress or demise Based on just looking at them sometimes you don't know what's going on It's a perfectly healthy person This could have been a mild anything mild heart attack I mean anything that it could have been completely you can take every safety precaution known to mankind and there are There are unforeseen's unless you're gonna run an MRI and a CAT scan and you know Do blood work and just every single thing before you play even then there's always a risk And that's where we have this term called risk aware consensual kink and we talk about it Loosely we teach classes on it some people are like yeah, well of course, you know talk about the risks You know, do you really do you really talk about the risks? How thoroughly do you talk about the risks when someone says?
I really know what I'm doing. Do you really ask them? Do you see their credentials? Do they have a you know?
What's their game plan for something going bad? How many people actually negotiate that because I don't most people don't know and I've talked about this before I brought it up How you during orientation discuss how submissives and tops tops and bottoms should all be going to classes It doesn't matter what that class is because it's true. You're a bottom you come into the scene You see someone doing fireplace. It's exciting.
It looks very intriguing You want to try it? You see somebody who a lot of people are trusting and you say I'd like to try a fireplace You are imposing a great deal of trust in that person without any information beforehand So the chances are nothing is really gonna go wrong But something could go wrong However, if you had been to a class in which the instructor was teaching the top what to do You would have known to go into that scene and say I have a cold I have a cold I don't think I should be wrapped up exactly you should disclose that to your top this might be a risk Yeah, or I just did some drugs, you know, maybe we should maybe we shouldn't do it And once again, you start getting into the next level of kink where it's like look, you know, Kathy We've been at threshold for a long time We're very very we get to do so many wonderful dirty things and needles and hooks and anal-fisting and fuck in this We get to do so much But there is that next level where people want to include drugs and alcohol into their play They want to include edge plays that make them feel afraid for their life because they lack that adrenaline bug Just like the people that do wings suiting that jump out of planes that bungee core that do race car driving that do any high risk activities That results in death often. It's there, you know, what is it? Like there's an obnoxious percentage of people that try to climb Mount Everest that out of this group of 50 of you one of you is going to die Kind of thing, you know, it's like a real an actual percentage So people do these things and they want to go to that next level and at that point just because you are I Aren't gonna go to that level at that point you have to say risk-aware consensual kink These are these were adults.
These were people that understood what they were doing they had done it before and and they they gave it a try And it happens. I'm pretty sure that I just watched I used to watch a bunch of wingsuit videos And I watched some guy hit a bridge at 120 miles an hour just because he turned just the wrong slight way and that's it That's the end of that, you know, so there's always that moment There's just that moment where the thrill you got to pay the fucking check You hope you never have to pay that check But there's just a certain amount of times it does and at that point have you before you go into these things that look really Insights exciting. I'm sure it's exciting to jump out of a plane don't want to jump out of a plane You know, I don't like the risk So it's just I feel bad I mean in hindsight, of course you can look at anything in hindsight and say, you know, what could have master skip done better? You know, did he leave the room to pee?
Did he you know what could have possibly happened that he could have done better? You're gonna have that at the end of every accident You could take any accident that happened and we can look at it in hindsight and say you could have done this this and this Wasn't there. Yeah, but it's really easy to look back But what we but what we can say moving forward is is there's a cost That the word risk is is there for a reason and that sometimes it happens and sometimes it can happen to somebody who does Know what they're doing the guy that hit that bridge in 120 miles an hour that guy was like a world-class fucking wingsuiter So there's I just I don't know it's tough And there's another element to this story that we didn't discuss and that is that you do after so long so many years Of doing one particular plane which nothing goes wrong. You might get a little just a little lazy Yeah, we're just not and again, we're not talking about this specific thing I don't want anyone to think that we're saying well master skip Yeah, but I've seen this happen and I felt it myself to you you've done this a hundred times I can look the other way when I came in ass.
I know where I'm gonna hit the ass and guess what every now and again I hit the back of a knee. Oh, but man look I get and you just gotta go. Oh, did you learn your lesson bitch? Because no real top ever takes responsibility for a fuck up.
Don't I'm just kidding Make them chocolate milk and Usually fuck up in chocolate milk chocolate milk. Chocolate milk fixes a lot. Can you just chocolate in general fixes a lot? I would read it doesn't fix it doesn't fix everything about a lot it fixes a lot You could do a lot to me and then give me some C's candy afterwards and we're good really What's your favorite C's kid?
I really like good Orange cream so are my favorite good they had a apple pie truffle the last time I tried I didn't really like I would eat disorder Okay, sorry, we're done with these candy. Yeah, now no actually I'm not happy and make a stop talking about something we love Well, I had to make light of something because that was a very tough topic and I'm Was out the entire time so life is a Pushing pool to kind of to add I guess something to the conversation for the last topic sorry I guess try to move on but I would say One thing is you know always look out for yourself I think you know obviously not putting blame on anything But you're saying you know don't do drugs or alcohol or you know at least know how things affect you know that hey I do have a cold and I also think it's great that we're not great But like like you said no charges were Were filed so obviously there was some there was some knowledge with immediate friends or something like that or you know There are people to be like hey like I Knew where this person was I know that they were involved with this other individual like this was a consensual relationship Like it is good to kind of have your support network that knows these things So you know something does happen to you they can either you know make sure to kind of like that Check on you you know if they need to find you or something but also you know it's a kind of protect your I guess memory You know, you don't want somebody yeah, you just want I mean the more people you have run once again You know, you don't know who did what and what and I love right right but there is really something You know juries are not very friendly to this type of stuff When it actually goes to court so what is really important is that if you do have a network of people around you? I mean there is nothing wrong with sign-in waivers if you're gonna do an edge play with someone There's nothing wrong with shooting a little 20 second video. This is what we're going to do Yes, I know what we're going to do, you know, there's nothing you know people call that paranoid Hey knock yourself out on the other end of it.
It's the same as getting tested You know before you you play people, you know, it's the same kind of thing So just if you're you know if that's something that you're you're doing very intense edge play, you know Protect yourself and don't worry and if you're somebody because we have a lot of people that are new and adventurous And they see something in a video or they see something they're like yeah I want to do that I'm ready to do that or they see something and someone says I can do that to you and You instantly you want to go for it. Don't worry about this. Yeah, don't worry about disappointing someone You know more public setting, you know here at threshold always the doors are open and such so if you're you know Yeah, less likely things come on I guess with people around but you never know all right. Hmm.
Well guess what what? Anand's boom Bouncing it up and down Wouldn't you yeah? Like that I'd be bouncing in all day. I'm just bouncing it in my mind.
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