175: Suzanne Firstenberg Asks: How Can Art Help Make the Unseen Visible When People Look Away?

What happens when a society loses its grip on grief and numbers replace names? In this episode, social practice artist Suzanne Firstenberg turns national tragedy into human encounter, asking a simple but destabilizing question: Can art make us see each other again? From a field of more than 600,000 white flags on the National Mall to immersive installations on addiction and psychological trauma,Firstenberg's work doesn't explain. It reveals. Each project begins with a question beneath the surface: not how people fall apart, but why. Not how many died, but who they were.Her process moves through research, deep listening, and public participation to transform private pain into shared space. Whether through handwritten memorials, recorded voices, or silent visual scale, she creates conditions where strangers become witnesses. What emerges is not consensus, but connection. In a culture fractured by disinformation, fear, and isolation, Firstenberg reframes the problem:Extremism behaves like addiction because it is reinforced by dopamine and sustained by repetition. Anger is often grief in disguise. Community is not optional. It's the mechanism of healing. Her current work asks a quiet but radical question: "Can we be we again?". It’s an invitation, not a slogan. This episode offers more than insight. It offers a practice that includes paying attention to what's unseen, asking better questions, and staying in the conversation, especially when it's hard. The work of art, at its most useful, is not to decorate the world, but to make us more capable of living in it.Notable Mentions People Suzanne Firstenberg: Social practice artist known for large-scale, public installations addressing grief and public memoryEleanor Roosevelt: Former First Lady and human rights advocate whose mentorship shaped early social policy workDan Patrick: Texas Lieutenant Governor whose early pandemic comments influenced the conceptual framing of Firstenberg’s memorial work Pablo Picasso: An artist whose painting informs Firstenberg’s large-scale historical documentation workOrganizations Charles F. Kettering Foundation:The Charles F. Kettering Foundation, headquartered in Dayton, Ohio, is a nonpartisan, nonprofit, operating foundation with a mission to advance inclusive democracies worldwide by fostering citizen engagement,promoting government accountability, and countering authoritarianism.Democracy and the Arts: The Kettering Foundation's focus area for integrating the power of the arts into democratic life locally, nationally, and globallyNational Park Service: Federal agency that partnered in hosting In America: Remember, Firstenberg’s National Mall InstallationThe Washington Post: Coverage of COVID death framing that helped catalyze In America: RememberWUSA9 (CBS Washington DC) — Produced documentary coverage of In America: Remember Rupert Landscape : Landscape contractor that helped install In America: Remember Events & Places In America: Remember: Suzanne Firstenberg’s 2021 Washington D.C. installation honoring individuals who have died from COVID-19COVID19 Pandemic — CDC Overview: A CDC overview of the global health crisis that forms the central context for In America: RememberBloedel Reserve, Bainbridge Island, WA: Artist residency site that sparked Firstenberg’s addiction-focused workPublications and Paintings Denying to the Grave: A book by Sara and Jack Gorman that examines denial, belief systems, and resistance to scientific truthGuernica (1937): An iconic antiwar painting by Pablo Picasso referenced by Firstenberg as structural inspirationAcknowledgmentsFrom FreeSound.orgThrobbing bass pad.aiff by Raille -- https://freesound.org/s/342146/ -- License: Attribution NonCommercial 3.0coins.m4a by djfroyd -- https://freesound.org/s/529187/ -- License: Attribution 3.0*******Art Is CHANGE is a podcast that chronicles the power of art and community transformation, providing a platform for activist artists to share their experiences and gain the skills and strategies they need to thrive as agents of social change.Through compelling conversations with artist activists, artivists, and cultural organizers, the podcast explores how art and activism intersect to fuel cultural transformation and drive meaningful change. Guests discuss the challenges and triumphs of community arts, socially engaged art, and creative placemaking, offering insights into artist mentorship, building credibility, and communicating impact.Episodes delve into the realities of artist isolation, burnout, and funding for artists, while celebrating the role of artists in residence and creative leadership in shaping a more just and inclusive world. Whether you’re an emerging or established artist for social justice, this podcast offers inspiration, practical advice, and a sense of solidarity in the journey toward art and social change.