#176 – Talking sales leadership on the Scared So What Podcast w/ Dr Grant Van Ulbrich

This week on The Sales Transformation Podcast it’s Dr Grant Van Ulbrich’s turn to interview Phil in a conversation that originally appeared on Grant’s Scared So What Podcast!  Grant and Phil discuss leadership, coaching, and transformation within the sales industry, including the critical role of leadership in managing change. There’s also discussion of the importance of managing personal change when trying to change an organisation, which lies at the heart of Scared So What.    Connect with Philip Squire on LinkedIn  Connect with Grant Van Ulbrich on LinkedIn  You can find all the episodes of The Scared So What Podcast on Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.  You can find out more about Grant at www.drgrant.com, and learn about Scared So What at www.scaredsowhat.com.  Join the discussion in our Sales Transformation Forum group.  Make sure you're following us on LinkedIn and Twitter to get updates on the latest episodes! Also, take our Mindset Survey and find out if you are selling to customers the way they want to be sold to today.