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Oct 25, 2016 1 hr 12 min

177 Clapbusters

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Flashy intro, DCTV, Julian Sands's career for no reason, the Internet shutdown, Stranger Things, horror movie facts, Ghostbusters, Wolverine Beyond Thunderdome, predicting The Walking Dead

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Welcome to know Blige's the Clap the podcast that says the flash also known as Dawson streak, you know I have many issues with the second episode But let's over the first we have really talk about it. So so I know you and Deb talked about a little bit last episode or two episodes ago Very little I agree with her they had flashpoint. They got wrapped up in effectively big one episode killed it one episode Well sort of when you see the third episode they keep referring to the timeline he created as flashpoint Yeah, I guess so you're gonna keep hearing about flashpoint especially because he ran to felicity on the with it second episode Yeah, and then found out that the kid was a boy instead of a girl which goes to the legislature. Oh and you know Well talk we'll talk about some legends of tomorrow later But yeah, no so honest trailers did a trailer for the flash TV show and they referred to the end when they're doing all the starring I don't want to wait and they call it Dawson streak and they have him it kind of is a human drama is it's I don't I don't see you show so I don't know We're expecting you know C.

W used to be wv. It's the same thing They also referred to Barry Allen as a bobblehead because the way he just keeps like he keeps bobbing his head like if you go Like if you go back and watch it go back on a trailer All the little quick little things they show he's constantly like a like a super cut of like him bobbing his head I was sweet Jesus and then now that I'm watching it after seeing that all I can see it It was pretty funny to the flash yeah, so I was kind of just my in the flashpoint Everything they like they eliminated it in one episode. Yeah, yeah I was credit it was pretty fucked up that he had take the reverse flashback to kill his mom Well the fact that like fun was like you're gonna beg me So like don't like to kill your mom. Yeah, and that's effectively what happened.

Yeah, and Iris was basically his is rock Well, that's been that's been established in both the show and comic. Yeah, yeah, yeah I'm getting the impression that this season will be heavy about Barry and Iris Yeah, um, which kind of bugs me because I really don't like Iris all that much I like her more this season than I did the first season when she was kind of the dance on distress. Yeah, you know like trope They did set her up at the end of the first season I believe to be as like his touchstone which you have that with in the comics yeah, Wally West and I kind of believe I'm forgetting her name Linda Parks Linda Park. Absolutely.

Sorry not parks That's combining Linda Park with Rosa Parks Because Linda said it back the bus. Did you see that by the way? I almost want to buy it's like it's great sure that it says not and then Rosa Parks 1955 as like well contributed like unlike I want to wear it, but like I'm Pretty sure it's so racially political charge. Yeah, I don't think you should do that.

Yeah, no great shirt though See I'm in the flash. I do I do like I like the little bit they did do for us. I don't like that They had so many possibilities and all they're doing is There's like there's like differences now that they're just now figuring well There are bigger differences that we haven't brought up like I don't know Caitlin having powers. Yeah and and Jesse quick and Jesse quick on the new episode and You have Wally Wally being like really jealous of Jesse You've got Harry coming back is he jealous or is he?

Embarrass because he has a crush on her and she doesn't know she has powers. He doesn't know I think it's a bit of both I Think it's a bit of both. I think that he's Really both I think that Wally is jealous. It doesn't have speed especially on the first episode when Gary sees him as kid flash I Think you know one thing like he he goes to Jesse like as Wally like as a person and says Why don't we talk about this which I thought was really cool?

Yeah? I think I'm I don't know. I'm not sold on the new season of flashy. I was sold the first season I'm sorry the first episode but then the second episode actually lost me because it's like oh everything's fine Like it just seemed so wrapped upwards like Wally said or I'm sorry not well I'll very say like I can tell you about all your ultimate personalities I can that I know we don't want to know and then the end like and then and credits and then by and they were like We don't want to know the end like it seemed like everything's fine like that's weird And by the way, why does prometheus and we'll get into arrow eventually?

Yeah, but what is prometheus? Who's a badass villain by the way, but tech based he's tech based yeah? Have a mask that looks like Dr. Alchemy looks like ragman from arrow like it looks mystical and or like scare crowian.

I guess you could say yeah Scare crowian in terms of maybe like Chris Nolan stuff like he's just wearing a skin mask a mask made of skin but like I Apparently we're gonna find out his main agenda in episode six. I'm jumping to arrow. Okay, so then we can just go to arrow That's fine. Oh, you have anything else to say about flash.

Yeah, like arrow is like yeah flat. I'm sorry flash like I'm in they grab me right away. I Am just irritated by the level of closure. I guess yeah that it happens so quick and everybody okay, where's an arrow?

Maybe there's a lot of closure happening. That's not so you know smooth. Yeah, I'm kind of I Kind of wish they would kill love cable over his character The whole I like that he was like tell John junior and I'm like oh my god That's flash Laurel answers to come back what yep don't know how yet don't know what fucking time Trev already said that she's come back well now hold on because you did see dead shot come back on the last episode right who was a hallucination so Will black and re be just kind of a ghost of vision he's passed We'll see I can't imagine she wouldn't be any So the new team he has an arrow. I'm not really who was Evelyn sharp the chick about it nowhere No, she was in the last season she was the one that just up as the black and area after She was on that stole the stuff from yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Then if well dog you've got ragman.

I like ragman. I like ragman a lot especially Where okay, mr. Terrific is one of my favorite characters in terms of a modern JSA, which we will get into the JSA and Mr. Earth in a second.

I will say Ragman was really nice, but to have on the last episode. Yeah Felicity finally come clean and go look it was a matter of 10,000 versus a million or whatever it was I don't know the numbers nerds Let's drop the bomb in Haven Rock and he just walks away. Yeah, so does he come a bag? I know I don't think so.

Okay. I honestly think it'll be a whole thing of him like they with mr. Terrific Curtis saying like He'll understand a level you don't yeah that you did what was right I think it's gonna come to that in the next probably maybe two episodes. I am like I don't think they're gonna drag it out There's no way I hope not Tracking shit out.

Yeah, well because this is the last kind of like you're dragging out the whole Felicity as a boyfriend No, like you doesn't know she's dating the cop. I don't think so Huh? I don't think so because one of the synopsis is I read Whatever so is Felicity starts considering telling her boyfriend of her real job or some shit like that So and those on like as the two worlds collide splicies two worlds collide she considers telling him about I don't know Well, and he did that like on the last episode like he did like the fake Colin yeah to get arrow to show up Yeah, so you tell him about the threat So they could like find nuke which is a whole other story It's effectively nuke from Daredevil. Yeah Sorry, I don't know what Derek Samson's name is like I don't know if he's a character in the comics I really don't know but like the name similarities alone.

I'm like so nuke. Yeah They I am liking the flashback story so the Russian brought the flashback. I like it But the last season I can be able to do it right yeah, so there's theories right now that next season would start flash forwards All over in the future all there may be five years in the future or whatever All our legends. Yeah, so they could bring in Connor.

Talk they could bring in Oliver's son They could bring in any number of things. I like it even take a current team. I can grow up I like that make the team grown up. I mean Effectively like green arrow in the outsiders.

I mean that's what it is you laugh, but I'm right No, I know I know it's not outside or just warriors for the first day I go here on screen arrow come out and play Oh Who'd be saying that I don't know for me this Do you think he's tell me Marilyn? Yeah, there we go. There's a part of the very real possibilities time Merlin although they say he's not Going back but it's flash points. I do it.

Oh, it's flashpoint. It's fucking legends of tomorrow like There's all sorts of alterations of the timeline so legends of to hold on we're gonna get a hold on because I want to talk about What my favorite characters from the JSA before we get into actual JSA, okay? Thank you dryer for announcing me The fact that you actually have almost almost I'll get to that moment almost the actual mr. Terrific the fact is when the fair play fucking jacket and he says like he drops Terry Sloan the original like mr.

Terrific and all he's missing are the teaspheres which he's developed he doesn't use them No, he doesn't use them yet, but he does and mr. Terrific is one of my favorite characters he in the JSA in the How much that we can and the Jeff Johns run in the David Goyer run Loved mr. Terrific in a crossing over with the in the Justice League cartoon Justice being limited he kind of became like their captain, which okay. Yeah Getting closer and closer to yeah getting closer close to legends on that one, but It became kind of there like a head tactician, right?

So to have Almost we're close just need teaspheres, but he had the team mask and it was like it feels weird I'm like, I don't give a fuck out weird feels you're fucking mr. Terrific I am so psyched I knew that when they introduced him I knew he would become mr. Terrific. Yeah, he had to They did call the arrow cave again.

He and he had the flu which is my past time Which it's funny because there's a I was reading an article there was a conf dental of Harley in the comics and green arrow in the arrow Cave and she's like you can't call the arrow cave I mean at least Batman called the bat cave because bats are living things and arrows just just are just there And she called it something I can't what the hell she called it, but he's like pretty knows like I Really like that Well, the thing is that the original speedy arsenal Came up the term arrow cave and because he was effectively kind of a weird Batman knockoff at the time in the comics So in the arrow car the arrow cave and blah blah blah. I think during the the melter run After Kevin Smith in the comics where like he says like, you know Roy called the arrow cave I always hated that. Oh Harley calls it the quiver. Why don't you call it the quicker?

Mm-hmm. Yeah, Harley Quinn. Wow something sexually subjective. What a shot So let's get into legends because we've kind of danced around at this point.

Yeah the JSA Okay before we get there, okay the first episode. Mm-hmm. I really liked it. I thought it did a really good job Thon motherfucker thon I did like that.

I Like the way they split him up in different timelines. I like I like that where he's not around anymore But he's Rory. Oh Rory on yeah, rip under yes. He's Rory.

Um, I think his actual real name is No, it's Arthur. Arthur. Arthur. Yeah, sorry One thing I didn't like is that they just kind of went oh you're a time detective How cuz he just goes through history books and figures out where people are oh you're talking about the new guy spoiler alert on the second episode the hemophiliac the Nathan Hawker whatever his name is yeah Oliver Queen and drag him into the I like that like that was a good like a nice little crossover.

Oh Captain Coles back to know he will be he will be he will be yeah, no people be in there 16 no he's gonna come back with a flashpoint Oh for fuck's yeah, that was something I was going back for crying out flash But the I didn't like how easy it was from the recover all the people like it's like well They were nice knots like the way like they recruited a rescued Adam from the primordial And it's like oh that was like when he was like the weird Petri dish and fighting dinosaurs I did like them saving white canary from from being burned as a witch because She was basically led me up which which the comments to me was like you've you've Tainted our women or something like that and she's like yeah Yeah, I'm chains up throwing up mission in jeopardy because she's making out with a con source Yeah, I don't like I don't like the oh so easy to have seen coming. Oh look it's being in dark That means Sarah's gonna go on a fucking man's mission like that's gonna be their little thing all season long Oh, well she killing this time Well, she put the team of jeopardy like this just that's made a little sub story throughout the season and I'm already annoyed by it It's a part that sense but You know it was the only dark team up with which is a bigger issue You have our thong yeah reverse flash what you see when he takes on like Rex Tyler our man So we'll get to that in a second. Yes, well man like shows up in the first episode going yeah I got a knife before to like nine billion times proving they won't die when they go there, right? Honestly, um, I know vixen's gonna join the team.

That's just part of their promo shit Um, I'm not surprised we won't for a while probably really yeah, I think they're kind of they're gonna do that thing where the team changes every season Okay, I think that's I think it's good. That's no I'm not saying like I'm just saying like maybe a little you know Carter and and Whatever name is hot girl. Yeah Carter and Kendra I'm sure you know what they'll probably pop up at some timeline I know they're going back to the old West so Jenna Hacks was coming back nice. Um, maybe he'll join the team Um Well Josh Brolin's a whole bit busy playing yeah, he's busy Oh, I was gonna say though and you can take it after this so at the end of the first episode the JSA shows up Mm-hmm got with a star girl and a bunch of like whoever it is.

I think it's a black guy wearing the brown leather with the goggles Okay, I don't remember his name. Okay. The second I saw him the first thing that came to mind was invisible boy from mystery met Ha I actually didn't think but his costume reeks of that. I well he is blind I mean First thing out of the game Yeah, and that was the invisible boy.

Gosh pretty much exactly that Um, I was a little I don't want to say twitchy. It was a little interesting having Doc midnight be if I can be so casual Dr. Midnight being black Um, I thought that was a little bit But I thought it was a little interesting having a an African-American character in 1952 I think they make reference to that when Jax walks into the nasi club. Yeah, um, they're like no Negro music.

It's like, yeah, don't punch him Um, and it's like well something like sorry. You're gonna be called a Negro, right? Um to have dr. Midnight be black was I think a very interesting choice.

Um Probably not made Lightly but for no reason like it doesn't really affect the character he has you saw it on the episode Like Daredevil esque thing. My issue more was that they didn't explore obsidian who is the guy who creates darkness Uh, who's cloak? Yeah, effectively Not the movie the comic. Um, it's like and then they summon debony cold in Jack Jack Black Jack Flash Jack.

Who's the character name? He played it. Was it Jack Flash? I wouldn't say it was Jack Flash, but now I'm now I'm like wait.

No because I was at stupid movie What's her name? Jumping Jack Flash. Will be Goldberg. Yeah.

Yeah, which is the thief. Yeah. Yeah Oh, look at what he was like a regular person, but she got contacted by some spy. I thought you were the thief.

I don't think so. Am I confusing that in ghost? Has any microwave goes off? She was a con artist.

She was a con artist in in ghost. Right, right Um Jack Flack Jack Flack. That was the character he plugged in there. That really Jack Flack?

Yep, that's really bad. Dabney Colvin's character. The imaginary. Yep.

That was Jack Flack. Huh. Um, But legends I was- You want to talk about JSA? It was only some of them and not the ones I actually wanted to see.

Um, like I said, I didn't explore Obsidian that much, which It's like, hey Obsidian, make it dark. It's like, hey, you know, he's the biological son of the green, or the green ranger, no, the golden mage. Um, true. Um, But he had like what Stargirl Obsidian Captain Steel, who's effectively Captain America.

Right. Uh, Vixen, who was not in the JSA at all, is only there to be introduced into the team. And yeah, no, I said the Star Girl. I said the Cosmic Rod.

Um, she divided Fire Star. Um, I think that's it. Is that- Am I missing anyone? No, that's it.

My only question is, was Baron Krieger, was he supposed to be Captain Nazi? Or was he supposed to be the general from Grant Morrison's Justice League- Justice League run? Um, I liked that, uh, at one point, what a cunt, that Vixen effectively tells Ray Palmer the Adam he's not a hero. Like, what the shit was that?

Like, and it literally just sets it up for him going, Well, I have this thing that can give me superpowers, but I'm gonna give it to the Emophiliac to not bleed anymore. Right. So I am a hero In regards, like, it just seems so heavy-handed. Um, I thought it was really shitty for her to say that he wasn't a hero.

I think it's also because they don't know what to do with the Adam. I think he's- they're running into that issue again, where they're not sure what to do with them, so they're gonna throw him in stupid storylines like the whole- Oh, you're in love with- with Hawker-old. Like, now we're just gonna make you another tournament's- it's all again. I'm- I'm really over- Vixen had a couple moments where- Yeah, I know, but I'm just kind of over the whole- let's treat- I mean, like, either have Ray Palmer on that and be a good superhero, or give her to the character because I'm really tired of him being like the punching bag?

Because a tiny Iron Man, like- his suit didn't even work on the last episode. No. And he says that he goes up the spelunker or whatever. I'm not fucking saying this.

But he goes like, oh, the thing doesn't work. Shrek it down to a G.I. Joe. Put it in my pocket.

Put it in the pocket. I don't get it. I don't know. I think it started off well, we'll see how long they can go with that.

I do know, speaking of CWTV in more of a general way, Kevin Smith directed the Killer Frost episode of Flash. Yes. Um, which is funny because the way that got found out was he thought he was being sneaky. And he took a picture of the script cover, but he covered the title with a pen.

And so somebody basically took the photo he put online, inverted it, did all kinds of image manipulation to it. And that allowed the reverse, the color from the back of the page that said Killer Frost to be seen in reverse on the front of the picture. Like they figured it out by manipulating it and reversing it, making it black and white, inverting the color scheme and all kinds of shit. So yeah, it was pretty funny.

Yeah, he's directing Killer Frost episode. And he's about to go direct an episode of Supergirl 2. Yes. What do you mean that?

Which we will talk about next week. Let's be doing that this week. I tried watching the first episode of the CBS. Supergirl wasn't terribly impressed.

I had. On my world, the women bow. I haven't gone back on the set. Oh my god, it's so ham-fistedly.

And don't get me wrong. We've talked about this before with Supergirl and just on the show. Like I was raised by a single, effectively a single mother. I'm pro-feminist, pro-women power, like Spice Girl's yay.

But like, it doesn't need to be handled the way it was handled on the original CBS. No, they made it way bigger than it needed to be. Once again, first alien, she fights. She fights.

He says, like, he's like, the one that I'm like, kind of bow. And it's like, oh my god. So of course the first person she fights is a misogynist. Like, are you fucking serious?

Also when, what's your name? Miss Harrison Ford, Klyssa Flockhart. I could have gone out of appeal. Yeah.

You could have gone skinnin' bones. She's ridiculously skinny. Like, certainly skinny. So fucking Beanpole.

Like, says like, what's wrong with being a girl? Like, I'm a girl and I am a company. Like, why shouldn't we call it Super Girls? I suppose it's a super woman.

It's like, OK, you're arguing semantics. I get it from a feminist point of view. But like, it's so ham-fisted. It's ridiculous.

Did you hear about Miley Cyrus? OK, let's go down this. Well, well, speaking of Super Girl, she said it's weird that the show has a title with a gender attached to it. Super?

Yeah, right. And that the title character's a woman, not a little girl. What if you're a little boy? If you want to be a girl so bad that this makes you feel bad?

I don't know. What if you're a boy who wants to be a girl? Yep. If you're a little boy who wants to be a girl so bad that this makes you feel bad.

That's her issue with the title of Super Girl. Well, maybe you shouldn't have come on like a written ball. Maybe so. Well, Andrew, Andrew Kreisberg of course responds and says, well, it's based on a pre-existing character.

Property, yeah. Like, it's called Super Girl. Like, the end. And there's never other than the intention of calling anything but that.

Which admittedly, there might be something wrong in the long run, accompanying wise, that you've never had a character named Super Woman? Because now, Lois Lane in the comics. Oh, for fuck's sake. Fuck the New 52.

Um, whatever it is. Not sure what we're supposed to do with Reverb now. I'm just- They took the New 52 Superman and Lois Lane and I'm a Super Boyer. What the fuck he's called.

Yeah, like the Osprey. The Osprey. The current line. And they adopted a kid at one point.

It was Kryptonian. I mean, the Super Dog died by saving the Super Boyer from my- Crypto said? Yes. Oh.

They killed crypto. But then Super Boy took the Cape of crypto and that's his Cape now. What about Stricky, the Super Cat? Is there really a Super Cat?

Yeah, I'm not kidding. All right. I didn't know that. I'm totally go super pets.

I'm not kidding. Oh, bats. It was effectively the opposite of the Autobot bats. Do you want to get into more about the Flash?

No. Not really. I'm kind of- I do want to say two more things. Okay.

Really quick. One really quick. No, Foy. Yeah.

I am kind of like- I love love that Foy D'Raco is I can't think of the actress name. I'm so sorry. The character's name is Julian Sumpher. I want to say Julian Sains.

Because that's the actor who's in the warlock. Warlock. Right. Or boxing Elena.

Like, come on. He had two movies. Okay. We can think of him.

Well, he had more than two. Because it was warlock and warlock two and I want to say warlock three. He wasn't a warlock three. Okay.

He dropped out. I thought he did come back for a third warlock movie. No. He's like, I'm gonna be smart enough to stay away from that one.

Yes. I'm only doing two. And you're like, right. This is gonna be the only thing you're gonna be known for.

But Julian, whatever his name is. So, Malfoy Draco, Draco Malfoy is effectively like Barry Allen's like opposite. I love it. Also, it's not just that it's Malfoy.

It's that he's like, I only like things I trust and I don't trust you. Like, there's an obviously character issue with the both of them that it's not just, oh, I'm working in an office with somebody who doesn't like me. It's like, oh, like, there's an actual thing where he says, on the first episode, like, you said Eddie Claris and I didn't say that. Like, you know something I don't.

Or you know something you shouldn't. You obviously stole a skin sample. How did you do that? Right.

And then he's like, oh, I'm gonna be the detective. Maybe he's the fucking Flash. Like, meh. All right.

And lastly, on the new episode, they have Magenta, who's, for me, a fan favorite through the Jeff Johns and Mark Wade Run on the Flash Comics, who is Frankie, who's an ex-girlfriend of Wally West with a split personality that has magnetic powers. I love seeing them introduce them. I loved it. They made it, they were like Frankie and her eyes glowed red and like a fucking lame post came through.

I love it. I honestly kind of want to see her bond with Wally West in the show. She might. We'll see.

Like, I kind of want that relationship with her. It's like Wally West is so conflicted with her. It's like, I want to be a hero, but my girlfriends get so crazy villain. So, for the record, Julian Sands, who played Moorlach, he played Moorlach and boxing Lena, Moorlach the Armageddon.

Let's see what else. Leading Las Vegas? Who was he in the coke? Yuri.

Sure. So I'm rushing. Great. I thought T.D.

was on one episode of Chicago Hope. He was a voice in one episode of The Real Adventures of Johnny Quest. He was in the 1998 version of Phantom of the Opera. Let's see what else is in here.

A lot of movies that no one ever recognized. It's right today, today. He was a voice in Jackie Chan Adventures for twenty six episodes. Wow.

Was he Jackie Chan? No, that'd be funny. He was Mayor Valmon. Well, how do you know those words mean?

He was in the episode of The L-word, which is a lesson. Yeah. Two episodes of Stargate SG-1. One episode, there's a shock, one episode of Law and Order SVU.

I'm sure he was the bad guy on that. And then he came back to Law and Order of Colonel and Ten as a different character. He was a magic rapist. I knew he was 24.

He was in 11 episodes of 24. Oh, is that what you know from? Well, me and other. Well, other than that, yeah.

He was an Ocean 13. He was an Ocean 13. It's Greco Montgomery. He was Greco!

He was the opposite of Roman, who was at his heart. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Greco, Roman, and they were like, boi school.

He was an episode of Castle. Nope, Stuffy Bitpader. We were going to- Two episodes of Smallville. Who was in Smallville?

Jor-El. Like Jor-El? Like that dad? I know who Jor-El is.

He was young Henrik in the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. Yeah, he was in a fair amount of shit. He's a voice in the Call of Duty Black Ops 2. So he's working.

Oh, yeah. He was an episode of Dexter. Did he play Dexter? No.

Because he should have. Yeah, so I mean, oh, he was in two episodes of Gotham. That's Gerald Crane. Oh, he was a scarecrow's dad.

Because I remember going, oh, that's fucking crazy. So thankfully, Warlock didn't end his career back in 1983. Warlock 2. Or 86.

I forgot Laurie Singer of, god damn it, it was the dance movie with Kevin Bacon. But loose. Yes. Laurie Singer was the preacher's daughter in But Loose.

Yeah. She was the girl in Warlock. Huh. Maybe that's why he's still doing so well, because he's only two degrees of separation with Kevin Bacon.

And two degrees. I'm doing fine. Oh, man. So what else you got?

You want to talk about the internet taking a giant shit? Well, such on, yeah, we can touch. It's just I had to spend most of my day. You spent a fair amount of time on something else.

OK. Yeah, I spent most of my day yesterday dealing with that. The DDoS attack on the Ecos. Well, so it wasn't just on the Ecos.

It started affecting the Ecos. But then there's this really interesting internet map. And it's literally the world map. No, I've seen the GIF.

Yeah. And they animate it. And it shows all the red spots as they start going down. And it's funny because you can watch it.

It starts affecting the Ecos. And it doesn't really ever go away. And then you watch Dallas flare up. And you watch the West Coast flare up.

Denver flares up for a minute. Basically, all the main cities that are also huge. They're internet points of presence. There's that shit down there.

And just a chunk of Europe. Very small. It was mostly the UK. So yeah, basically somebody decided to deny a service attack a DNS provider, then DNS.

And DNS is what makes your browser go, oh, you want to go to www.google.com? Well, that IP address. DNS is what translates the name to the IP address. Basically, they went, you want to go there?

No, you can't. Well, your computer couldn't look it up. Right. Because your computer was like, oh, I need to go DNS to find out where to go.

I need to go to DNS and to do anything about it. So you couldn't go anywhere. So basically, there was nothing wrong with the sites. Like Twitter was fine.

And everything else was fine. Yeah, you just like, I was great. You just couldn't look up anything. Apparently, Brandon couldn't work yesterday because of it.

Wow. Yeah. Facebook was fine for me. Google was fine for me.

But they also have so many different DNS companies. Thank you. I was watching the cage. The cage.

Luke Cage. Yeah. Netflix was down for a little bit. Netflix was down on a Friday night, which I'm sure pissed people off on the Friday that Black Mirror came out.

Season three. Well, we'll talk about later. And yeah. So, and of course, all the conspiracy theories were all the other places.

Oh, yeah. There was one that Hillary was doing it. Oh, my god. Wicke leaks from their new, you know, shit for it was to be read WikiLeaks from having people read WikiLeaks new email releases.

And then it was, oh, it's to cover up the fact that the CIA NSA, XYZ, ABC, government, ABC was actively posting up outside the Ecuadorian embassy to raid it and kill Julian Assange. Because that's covert. Who I loved in warlock. Yeah.

Well, it wasn't like it wasn't a hack. It wasn't like basically source code we got released weeks ago that basically takes all the scans across millions of IP addresses to determine what is considered, what is an internet of things. So like refrigerators, toasters, whatever internet. Smart.

Yeah. Connected device. That's not a normal computer. And it would look for default passwords to log in with.

And if it did, then it would tell it to go hit DNS. That's all it was. It wasn't anything fantastic. It was much of default log in passwords.

Yeah. It was admin time in one, two, three of the passwords. What's the password password password? Someone scripted it.

Yeah. So yeah. That was fun. Let's see what else.

That's funny. It's on the internet side of things. I didn't really get affected by that. Well, it's something I broke the internet.

Let's talk about we only have a limited amount of time to do it. OK. Stranger things. All right.

We have something to talk about. Go for it. Let's hear it. I know you finally finished watching it.

I did. What'd you think? I loved it. I knew you would.

It's so Spielberg. It's so Lucas. It's so John Carpenter. It's 80s.

It's 80s. You have to remember like OK, no offense. But when that show is taking place, I'm like four. I was only like 10.

No, no, no, I was probably about 12. So the movie references, I caught them. But only because it's me. Right.

All of the Stephen King references. Oh my god. You're out of your fucking mind. It was awesome.

Up to the thought, which by the way, have you seen the new? Well, the thought was also like Wishmaster. It was also like a bunch of horror movies back then. Because it was based on Koojo and I want to say some sort of things.

But there's a Koojo and something else. But like the whole like little girl has a power. Like it's very fire starter with Drew Barrymore. OK, so wondering what we're referencing.

It's very E.T. With all the bikes. Have you been chasing them? It's very standby me.

Literally the episode The Body, which is named after the short story. Oh, Brandon's coming down to talk about Stranger Things. I don't watch it. You didn't watch it.

I watched it on my own. Then fuck off. OK, so Stranger Things. I loved it.

Like I said, it's one of those shows where I now understand why I've got friends that said, why haven't you watched this? Because it literally starts out then playing Dungeons and Dragons. Like Edition One with like the Demi Gorgon. I know that based on our time at NDK, I knew that the underworld or whatever.

I'm going to call it was, well, I'll call it the upside down. I didn't know that walking in. Well, I did know that walking in rather. So when she flips the board upside down and goes, there's a ranger.

There's the Demi Gorgon. Like I understood I was like, OK, there's some shit going on in the underground. So let's talk about the aftermath of Stranger Things. Not so much the show, which was great.

And by the way, whatever writer, yeah. Great job. Can we just say it real quick? I'm amazed that she bought the Christmas lights, as opposed to just.

I thought she stole the show. Ah, ha ha ha ha. Because she's a chef lifter. Meh.

At the very end of the season, you have, I'm a zikubur. You have the guy, the sheriff, putting egg o'waffles in a box, assuming that Ella's alive, 11 is alive. And he's working for the bad guys. Oh, I actually.

That's the impression I think he sacrificed himself in some way. Well, he sacrificed himself to get them clear. So I don't think he's working for the bad guys. I think he's doing that like.

I think he is. I think he's working for the bad guys. Really? I think he's working for the bad guys.

That gives him access to Ella or whatever, the upside down. And that's why he's bringing it. They've never really got until like how they got out of that. Like him and the writer.

No. Well, they had that rope. They never oped out to him or something. No.

They just walked out. They just chucked him into there. Okay. And that you have, well, buyers chucking up slugs.

Yeah. Yeah. Thus assuming he brought the underground with him or is some kind of incubator? Incubator.

I think the next season's gonna open up with him being ripped open like the guy in aliens. John Hurt. It won't face suckers gonna jump out. Uh, church surfer.

It wasn't a face sucker. It was a little beanie. It was a face hugger. It was over.

It was, it was a paxen who had neither a face sucker nor a chest buster. No. Happened to him. But yes, a chest buster, uh, you're thinking of.

Yeah. Um, I loved it. I'm glad that they're gonna do another season of it. I'm glad I did so well.

I hope these. I'm kind of glad that there was this like internet petition and all kinds of shit to try and do more of the girl. The glasses that died. Oh, uh, Lauren.

Whoever the friends name was, I didn't think it was Lauren, but um. Where's she just like, I got stuck to the pool and now I'm dead too. Yeah. People wanted to like figure out that they wanted to bring it right back and they're like, no, um, I also did like that one of the actors.

I think the actor that played the main, main boy. Well, buyers are the main one. The main boy. Um, I guess I was like, well, the sexuality, the little boy.

That, well, but it's actually well buyers. The sexual. I'm missing. Yeah.

Yeah. So keep calling them a fag of the entire series. The sexuality, the little boy, like the kid was what, 12. He doesn't matter.

And we're always gonna call. Yeah, who cares? Like he's 12. Oh, we're always gonna call like that's just, I'm sorry.

Like it's just 12 year old. They're 12 year old, they're 10 year old mentality in terms of the 80s going, hey, fag. They still don't know. Hey, pre-tardlin.

That doesn't mean he's gay or he's retarded. It just means like that's just what they said. That's what they said back in the 80s. You were a fag.

Okay. You're a turda fag. Um, kind of like a butcher mom. What was it?

Oh, that's what pissed me off of the flash going back. No, something they said back in the day that they tried to bring to the 80s or tried to bring present was well saying not. Not. They really, they're gonna say that.

That's no, they say that in the show. Does that, no, he says like, no, just him. Yeah. I like that he's so out of touch.

I really do. He's, I like that he's a way better spirits. Like he's actually in a good spirit place right now. I like that he like, he finally rises like he needs to let like Jesse, one free, like he needs to just, he says he goes, I'll always love you and the end.

Like after that, it's up to you. So I kind of went on a little bit of a, I was bored one day. It's free time. And I was looking up Halloween movies to watch.

Like no one does scary movies on Halloween anymore. Like I remember back when I was a kid. Well, AMC does not. Well, I mean like movies in the theaters.

No one comes out with movies in the theaters in Halloween time anymore. That used to be like from the beginning of October. So Halloween night was fucking horror movies all the time. That's not the case anymore.

Like every now and then a scary movie might come out in the horror of Halloween, but not usually. I found this article about the, the, the, the, the, the, not stereo, it's a bit of both the movies that everybody knows about. Like, uh, Nightmare in Elm Street, Halloween, and leprechaun and all the, you know, you know, it's scary movies. And they were talking about different fun facts.

There was one for Nightmare in Elm Street and Robert England who, who played for a group every time, except for the remake of Nightmare in Elm Street. He played in every time. Yeah. He was actually responsible partially for getting Mark Hamill in Star Wars.

I figured. Oh no, there is. Yeah. He read for Hans of England, read for Hans Solo.

And he didn't get the role. But he went home and he told this guy who was living on his couch after 6-pack. And all the Star Wars movie and his name was Mark Hamill. And I said, Hey, Lucas is doing this face movie.

Maybe you're right for it. The lead guy is like a teenager. So Mark out of the phone to his agent. And then he went to the other night, so he was not listening about the next day.

Obviously that's far. The inspiration for Freddie was an interesting combination of different characters. And so the killer's talks as victims in their dreams. West's boyfriend had read a series of articles in the LA Times about a cluster of men played with horrible nightmares who died in their sleep.

And he was also bullied by a kid named Krueger when he was a kid. What, an action no pun. Yeah. Also the brutal antagonist, InquIX, you filmed The Last House on the left.

It's named Krueger. K-U.G. Freddie's creepy figure was further inspired by Join Craven's encounter with a mean spirit of prankster. was further inspired by John Craven's encounter with a mean spirit of prankster.

Quote, there was a particular man who scared me when I was little. He was a drunk that came down the sidewalk and woke me up when I was sleeping. I went to the window wondering what the hell was there. He just did a mind fuck on me.

He just basically somehow knew I was up there and he looked right in my eyes. I went back and hid for what I thought was ours. I finally crept back to the window. He was still there.

I woke up my big brother and we went down with a baseball bat and no one was there. Probably the guy heard him coming and ran. He was drunk having a good time with the idea of an adult who was frightening and enjoyed terrifying a child with a child with a surgeon or Freddy. And then there was Halloween.

Lindsay Wallace. John Carpenter. Yes. So Lindsay Wallace, one of the two kids that Jimmy Lee Curtis in the original movie is babysitting.

He's played by the Real Future Housewives of Beverly Hills, Starkhyle Richards. Didn't remember that. Chuck E was inspired by Robert the Haunted Doll. You ever heard of Robert the Haunted Doll?

No, but I remember my little buddy, which is dangerous. Very similar. Chuck E. So Robert the Haunted Doll is this doll that I want to say early 1800s.

There's an artist. I can't really get it. The artist's first name is Robert. I can't remember.

If you search Robert the Haunted Doll you'll find it. But this guy had been given a doll by his caregiver. He had parents but they were wealthy. They had these Haitian or Caribbean slaves that one of them was his nanny basically.

She got fired and was being sent back home and then nanny made this doll for Robert and when the mom threw out how she cursed the doll. So for years, up until this guy was 18, 19, 20 years old, he could be seen around town with this doll. Instead of going by the name Robert, he started going by his middle name Eugene and started saying that Robert was the doll. And the doll went to, it was kind of like watching family circle, the family circus cartoons were like, who did this and not me?

Everything got blamed on the doll. So he finally goes off to college, starts becoming more regular, socialized individual, meets a woman, gets married, gets married, gives him their old house as a wedding present. And in the attic of the house is this doll that's been boxed up and he finds the doll again. The wife ends up divorcing him after this.

He goes, he regresses back to being a fucking kid again basically. He's walking around and was grown man with this doll. But now the doll is in some museum in that same town. And people take pictures of the doll without asking permission and all kinds of bad shit happens to him.

So the doll had me kept in a glass container. It was like, wreck, they'd find the entire place ransacking the only thing that was, like, okay, it was the doll. But now it's like, you go take a picture of the doll, if you don't ask permission, bad shit happens to you. There's letters on the wall, I trust her, Robert, the doll, I'm so sorry, please forgive me, I need to offend you and talk trash about you.

I didn't mean to take your picture without asking. And then descriptions of what has happened to him. So that's where the inspiration for for Chuck, he came from this fucking doll. Wow.

I know you said not to do it. I'm gonna bring up my checks on chainsaw massacre was lightly at games inspired. Okay, no, we didn't live in Texas. Now, or use the chainsaw.

No, again, but it was the skin part. It was the wearing of the skin. It was the wearing of the skin. But the original house they filmed the original 1973 version of the movie in or whatever, 70s version of the movie in is now in eatery in Kingsland, Texas.

Like that's not even where the house was. They bought the house and moved it on a trailer to Kingsland's Texas. And now it's like this really nice eatery that they advertised as being the house where the movie was filmed. Just as a side note, you're wondering why I didn't want you to bring that up initially.

Yeah, I'm related to Enkeen. He's a second uncle on my dad's side, whatever. Yes, I'm related to a serial killer. Please go forth with your Halloween.

As long as you don't go into a head of electric, is that actually real? I only have two more. The movie screen goes to be inspired by the Gainesville River. Really?

Yep. And the movie, Leprechaun, was literally inspired by Lucky Charms. I'm a Leprechaun. Yeah, that movie was fucked up.

All of them are fucked up. With Jennifer Asen. Yep. Yeah, it was kind of like her breakout role, maybe, so to speak.

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