EPISODE · Jun 23, 2025 · 1H 18M
177. Ketamine, Trauma, and the Future of Psychiatry | Rocky Sullivan, DO
from Medicine Redefined
In this episode of Medicine Redefined, Darsh and Altamash sit down with Dr. Patrick “Rocky” Sullivan, an emergency physician turned ketamine therapy pioneer, to explore how this powerful molecule is quietly transforming mental health care. Drawing from years of ER experience and clinical innovation, Dr. Sullivan breaks down the science, stigma, and promise behind ketamine treatment for depression, PTSD, addiction, and chronic pain.We unpack the nuances of off-label prescribing, why most depression treatments miss the mark, and how ketamine-assisted psychotherapy (KAP) is helping patients rewire trauma in real time.If you’ve ever wondered how ketamine really works, who it's for (and who it’s not), or what a responsible treatment plan should look like, this conversation will change your perspective. It's an eye-opening look into the future of mental health care.TIMESTAMPS00:00 Introduction to Medicine Redefined00:36 Meet Dr. Patrick Sullivan01:46 The Evolution of Ketamine Therapy03:18 Rocky's Journey into Psychiatry07:57 Understanding Ketamine's Mechanism08:49 Off-Label Uses and Research11:12 Ketamine in Emergency and Pain Management14:14 The Importance of Set and Setting15:29 From Anesthetic to Antidepressant17:15 Mainstream Depression Treatments23:02 Navigating Treatment Options26:45 Screening and Safety Protocols37:29 Ketamine Assisted Psychotherapy41:42 Telehealth and Ketamine Delivery42:16 The Importance of Provider Interaction43:11 Case Studies: Depression and OCD43:55 Case Studies: Pain and Trauma44:24 Case Studies: Alcohol Use Disorder46:12 The Role of Therapy in Ketamine Treatment47:54 Ketamine's Mechanism and Benefits52:09 Maintenance and Dosage Variability01:05:13 Challenges in Ketamine Research and Regulation01:16:14 Conclusion and Contact InformationSOURCES04:13: Ketamine suicidal ideation meta-analysis; Ketamine depression meta-analysis05:09: What is ketamine?06:01: History of ketamine07:36: Off-label prescriptions07:44: Research referenced on alcoholism and ketamine:1997 study1998 study2001 study2018 study07:44: 2000 study done on depression and ketamine07:44: 2006 study repeated09:30: Ketamine dose-dependent responses10:13: Ketamine on respiratory drive10:58: Ketamine for asthma13:47: Psychedelic therapy15:21: Treatment-resistant depression16:18: SSRIs and other antidepressant drugs17:36: ECT and Ketamine therapy studies:Study 1Study 2Study 3 (70% statistic)18:48: TMS18:48: Spravato study18:48: IV Infusion ketamine study22:19: Treatment resistance depression prevalance25:20: Mathew Perry story28:05: Studies on how Ketamine works in the brain:Study 1Study 229:30: Adjustment disorders32:21: Studies on BDNF and ketamine:Study 1Study 2Study 3Study 432:37: Exercise and BDNF 32:39: HIIT and BDNF35:08: Ketamine assisted psychotherapy research38:08: Ketamine for PTSD44:27: EMDR44:46: How to change your mind:DocumentaryBook01:04:25: Ketamine is top-studied drug in depression01:05:40: Low-dose naltrexone01:06:00: FDA approval for naltrexone01:07:23: American Society of Ketamine Physicians, Psychotherapists & Practitioners01:14:02: Rocky’s website!
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