four five six six seven people in this room are actually in pajamas basically the only ones in the pajamas i don't think james knew that uh... it was supposed to be uh... pajama ratica show but that doesn't matter in spirit it's what i'm wearing isn't it it's my my gorgeous well it doesn't help that you only wearing the tops of the bot no bonds means that you're hearing that second and down below your shirt it is not my hairy nuts that i mean underwear wait a minute i drop something over here i am not looking i'm covering it so i don't see it that is absolutely disgusting is he showing is asking me yes i can i can i can i can i didn't see any of it i just drop that paper catholic oh my gosh i'm trying to be quite i can i hear you maybe we should start a star you can start with a ratica and let us start the show following show is for mature audiences only listener discretion is advised and if you don't like it please go fuck yourself one two three four do you feel your six life is quite scared of your desires might be strange i can't join the kinky world of play perfect podcast whoo hello and welcome to perverted podcast the show where you explore the adventures of the kinky lifestyle sex and perversion recording live from the threshold dungeon in north hollywood california friend of our pajama kinky audience hello lollie perverts hello cat i'm cathie i'm owl i am cal boogieing and what is going some molester over there hello molester hello cat he's going to see you i know that boy i know that boys i didn't last your tool yes what's that your glory peter larry that's it oh god we're making very angry catholic freaky that's what freaky that's what i mean when i'm angry that's what that is him no i thought that was the incredible hulk no that was bill bixby you weren't wouldn't like me when i was angry but peter laurie i believed i didn't want to miss movies and ungr with no oh you'd learn something new every day from from dead actors that is a freakiest like he's like his neck is flaring like a fucking egret or something or cat stop it why is that why be you're right behind the back of your neck cathies just literally dripping i've been trying much that freaks me out i would rather look at your nasa i'm thinking about coming behind me i'm just i'm just i'm just you got nuts in the front and then go on the back stop at me this is a sure way to get that never to happen is that voice what they can oh wait a minute that's right you have to be on your best behavior so you can cut cathie he doesn't care that's not gonna happen but he's not caring oh my god it's pajama right i can the first time where i want pajamas do you know what it didn't occur to either of us because we're that ridiculous is that this probably should have been a halloween show that's why it is all of it's not just because we're wearing pajamas what is in front of you you can't carve a pumpkin and just call this the halloween show it's the halloween you carved hungers in a costume hungers in a costume we're all in pajamas muse fucking pumpkin is right here look at how cute this is do you know that she carried this with her for like three days like as a pet pumpkin we buy it like home depot and we had to get something at pumpkin she's like yeah you can have a pumpkin and i'm like okay so of course she picks mini pumpkin the smallest pumpkin in the world and literally like got attached to it and then like afterwards we had to go to like three other stores and she's like i'm bringing my pumpkin right so like my little my little special child she's walking into casca with me carrying a pumpkin and they're like oh that's very nice i go yes it's the medication you did not say that it's true so now you have this in its car look at that face is your not phagem you cut that face isn't it's a halloween show new does cut a very cute and that you know cutting is fun yes we can't talk about that we can't talk about that and i specifically it's an awkward last night so last night was amazing because it was new bunny and dove and what was first amazing is because doves knew um we were going to do this very big intense connecty scene because uh one of the partners was having some feelings and so we had a table meeting we talked about that on the show that's where you sit down and everyone just says here are my feelings there are no dynamics nobody's the dominant or the daddy or whatever we're all just equal adults and we kind of talk about our feelings and it's always awesome and always productive sometimes a little awkward and vulnerable but it always works out to be really good and then after that because we knew we're gonna have that conversation we were going to have a very connecty uh type of play between um bunny and dove and so we're going to just call it a marshmallow pole we we had a marshmallow pole because we're not allowed to talk about hook poles and those types of things anymore for at least a week or two because that last week we're not going to talk about this anymore we're not gonna talk about this four times so so i'm like okay down peter so now it's a marshmallow pole we did a very intense marshmallow pole in mu and what gauge marshmallow is you 14s on on bunny some big big thick marshmallows she does like the marshmallows and it was and so it was just amazing the teamwork that mu and i kind of you know just play goalie and you know had to keep money from falling off the table because man she's just fucking out like an acid trip uh and so it was just it was awesome and i just wanted to talk about it but i didn't want to say anything so it's a marshmallow pole at it you're so you're sneaky so it's very good and then um fortunately all the sexual aids that i have to use to get an erection worked and and so it was a lot of fun too i actually had some fun too so uh yeah that was that and then we had pumpkin porn this morning you notice the porn on the table there is there is smuts did you go on by magazines to cut this out of no these are look at this vagina Kathy look at that vagina is that a good vagina it's okay vagina now what would make it okay and not a good vagina well it's got that weird little hairy patch at the top oh you don't oh well this is odd you're going to shave a shame the whole fucking thing on i feel personally offended because you know culturally appropriated there's no culture is that shaving preference uh no this is actually so we're going to carve the pumpkins this morning and then there was no newspapers so i'm like what do we do so i went to the live threshold library and i grabbed like i mean there's just boxes don't let the board hear you say that we are trying to get rid of half of the shit because it's just all you know like literally hustlers from 1992 that's why that hairstyle is on there because it's like some old so i just ripped out all these pages of this hustler and we just lined the table with smut and then carved our pumpkins on it and it was actually the best they were both topless it was just literally the best pumpkin cutting ever i have attended so you felt the need to litter the table well i mean you know you just want to give it one more life before it goes in the trash and i just wanted to get some oh are you saying that's what you look like yes i'm not going to give it to anything i'll keep a little bit uh of that i'm sure i'm sure you it's lovely i feel weird about it being completely there i have weird feelings about that i can always do that yeah leave yourself a little yeah little little hairy potter a little slithering logo can you get a slithering logo in there a snake a sneeck yeah that's what i'm not a slithering you're a rapey potter yeah okay well then i guess put a raven claw on there like a bloody raven claw i mean a marshmallow raven claw and it's not really a claw it's just a rounded edge i'm really trying to spare it listeners that you really put up with a lot of type of little things you don't have to look at your nut stack so there's that what's wrong with my nut stack it's down below your pyjama tops in underwear bish a lot of times actually be grateful because a lot of times your underwear is so you know lofts its elasticity that your nuts are literally showing right there too at least now so you're sitting there checking out a little brain on the side news laughing because she knows it's true i literally sit there like a 90-year-old one that hanging out no go get me some water come over here let me look at your ass oh it's fine this is not a serious show by the way if anyone was wondering we do have a lot of new listeners actually this week i don't know why i'm doing this what remember you said this talk thing what is this the talk oh i had a talk with creative explorer did you get i haven't that i've been holding off for a long long time and then saturday morning it just fucking came out oh it was the talk no it was just a talk yeah it was one of those things that i've not been telling him because i keep trying to make it work because you know i'm a very independent person but you know i don't take orders from anybody no no you don't but on the weekends when i'm with him i got to just push all that down and i've been trying to push this thing down ever since you know we've been hanging out and um yeah after like a couple years i'm all this is it i can't take it anymore i just can't give you your pre-breakfast blow jobs oh my god that's okay doing no more i drew the long lines that i've struggled with it i really have because um does it obviously is a part of me that enjoys being in service and being and oh you know submissive i can only take it for two or three days tops and then i'm ready to blow a gasket but uh so i try and for a long time i've been um really trying to push that one down because uh i keep telling myself yeah you can fucking do this what does it matter if you blow job is before breakfast or after why is that a big deal and i've been trying really hard but it just it doesn't work it ruins my entire morning and puts me in a bad headspace for a few hours so you would feel better if it was like a rinse blow job after breakfast after breakfast it's good like a like a piece of parsley you know they leave it on the plate like a little garnish blow job garnish on your fucking waffles around balls that's it that's perfect thanks my after dinner blow job mint under his just ignoring put a little mint on his pillow no no so it would be better if it was after oh yeah so was that it you just said oh i'm not sucking your dick pre-breakfast what submissive do you know is gonna tell you that it was really hard to do i it's just it's not anything after breakfast it was great really i don't know what that was the difference is that is amazing cathy that is so you did after breakfast it just changed your head because you got a little bit of a give i don't know i just know that i enjoy mornings a lot especially on my weekends when they're mine and it's hard to give those up because he and i get together almost every weekend so my weekend mornings don't exist anymore they're not mine anymore and there's something about the ritual of that languishing in bed and cuddling next to him and it's just the whole day is yours and the possibilities are endless and then i get up and he puts a collar on me and an apron and i just run around make a breakfast and then i serve it to him and to have to stop everything and do a pre-breakfast blow drop for some reason it's like glass shattering and it ruins my morning that is very i don't know what i understand but what i'm more interested in is the fact that a you stood up for yourself you said this doesn't work and then just that small adjustment so it didn't mean he's not getting the blow job it just means you need to have a little bit of a give on your terms and that made a big difference you felt more empowered that you were i don't know i wasn't seeking to be empowered i was just um or to just have to finally giving in and finally telling him look after really what is years of trying to come to some understanding i can't i can't do it it's not working it makes absolutely no sense i don't know why but that's the way it is and i think i gave it a good couple of years of trying and you can't ask more of me and i'm just going to lay this on the table it is completely irrational but there it is and he's all okay i can't do it so much i think he did he did he do it boogie and just be like so so after breakfast that's cool right pretty much that's a win i think that's a win i'm very proud of you and then some listener since that's a picture of the hunger road hunger road did you see road hunger he has boogie stop it hunger did you see your your road no i did not i get no road there's no cow boogie road not even a fucking dog waste no boogie road i ranted not even like they couldn't even put cow boogie over the little fucking shit bags that they have at dog parks why would they want them to i'm just a road just give it to him we can have the road fine if we win the lottery we can we can do a thing we can do a road i don't know at dog parks we we can be amazing cow boogie we provide your dog shit bags that would make me so happy no dog shit bag provided by cow boogie who's cow boogie and then we have the perverted podcast not be that would be amazing see all the characters i don't care about like grandiose things but something fucking cool i'll be all over that uh-huh that's it huh that's at the end of the show thanks that life is a monkey kooky nothing can't be placed with no shortage of cow shadow tires and chicks would come over the face yeah and they got groups and defense and shit like that if you're interested for your peace of mind please know that the author of every post we talk about how specifically granted us permission to do so he's gonna be interested in camp it will be interesting. The guy is usually will have different takes on what's going to be said here.
I did butcher this one. Probably. It was long. Yes it was.
This is from unruly nerd girl who actually happens to be a fan of the show already from Australia and was very. Does she have a dot? You know she doesn't. She doesn't have a dot yet.
There's no dots to put on there. Mr. Man. Ow.
I know. I said last week that I was going to. Wow. Wow.
And I told her not to. I told her not to. And I'm like, no, no, no, no. And then we had a thing and we're going to talk about that after this.
It wasn't written on here. I did say anything. It wasn't written on here. What Matt the very top the first one on there.
Is that what you're referring to? Okay. Well, we'll talk about that. Maybe I could use a bigger font or something.
I don't know what you need. Hey, man. There's a cute pumpkin right there. I was looking at me as pumpkin.
Anyway, I'll offer you just want me to get fucking stickers because you guys are basically just going to pitch about this. I'm like, no, do not go to the 99 cent store and purchase white little. Why did you just let it go? I'm acquiescing.
Is that what you're. Al, could you be in charge of what you're doing? To be fair, I was actually going to do it and then I just forgot. Fair enough.
Fair enough. It is. It is. All right.
I wanted to talk about something else. But no, we're going to tour to. Okay. All right.
Actually, it was really funny and I don't know why I found this always circle is that she said she is chuffed and gassed. I don't know. We chose it. And I'm assuming that's a good thing because anyone.
Chuffed and tough to guess. No. Anyone who speaks Australian. I'm asking the chat because Amazon princesses in there.
Oh, please do because I want to know what that means. Chuffed. I'm going to go with it. Chuffed.
I'm saying maybe chuffed like chafe. Like what is it? And gas. Okay.
Gas is like good. When you're like, that's a gas. No, when it's like, hey, that's a gas. Right off the edge of the chair, just dripping right in front of your wing for you.
Just lay on your back and then I can wiggle the chair. You know what? Creative Explorer. I don't know.
You got to give me permission. I don't care. He actually got a blister on one of his on his scrotum. A fucking blister like this size.
That's a big blip from I don't want to know. I don't want to know either. What were you doing? What was he showing?
Creative Explorer playing with power tools again. Chuffed means stoked or happy. Oh, I was about to find it for you. Okay.
What did it say? Chuffed means very pleased. And gassed. Anybody for gas?
Gas. Gas is kind of like when you say that's a gas. Gas. I'm pretty cool.
I like how. What is me? Gelled over there. Gelled are just like rolling on each other.
She's just laying in pajamas. You make people wear pajamas when this is what happens. Gas is drunk or intoxicated. Oh.
I thought that. Oh, no. Pissed in the UK I think is wow. We really are so.
Or out of energy. Well, neither one of those is good. I don't want to. I want to.
Maybe she's not hot. You can find them. She's like lady. She feels drunk.
Yeah. Or happy and drunk. Yeah, you can find the two. It's like you're very pleased and tired or drunk or one of the things.
Alright. Very tired of us. And she thinks we have gas. I get it.
Let's move on. We have a language barrier here. Your English is very good. You're hard to speak with an accent at all.
Because we're from Mac up. Alright. She wrote a post called Don't You Know What You Have? She says I see friends on Facebook or FET Life saying how horrid their life is.
And I know our lives can be horrible. And I know our brains lie to us sometimes and make it seem like our challenges are greater than we can handle. At the same time though, when I see these friends in pain or distress, there's a part of my brain that says, but don't you know what you have my friend? Our lives can seem shitty, but for every shitty thing we hate in our lives, I guarantee there is someone who would trade places with us in a heartbeat.
We all have burdens that challenge us. It is for some a learning opportunity for others a catalyst to develop strength or patience. And for every burden, there is someone who would be willing to take our place if it meant that they had the rewards that we sometimes don't see in our own lives. We don't always know the bounty that we have.
Okay. Okay. I don't know that I chose everything to read that was in the post that you were going to talk. Sure, sure.
No, I love the post. So they have a service submissive and they have a lot of posts about that and I read a bunch of those today, which will lead to my next topic when I talk about owl, which is now two syllables to. Never going to be able to say that. I have to pitch your E in there and then I can say owl, and not owl.
So anyway, so she in line with that, it's just very interesting because now I'm very interested in kind of exploring the service submissive and what's my role and stuff like that. So we're going to revisit another one of her posts. So I thought that was really cool. So in reading this, I had some different feelings.
I have absolutely. It is absolute fact that everyone has it. Everyone has something that somebody has it worse. And so you have that gratitude check.
I think it's very important. What are you going to say? I just thought you're going to like a hat. No, no, I, no, go ahead.
I'm going to go off in my own thing. Okay. So totally absolutely. There are many times where I've been inspired by just that humble thought that I really do have a lot as much as being the janitor at threshold and doing some of the things I have to do and tolerating a lot of the people and drama and homeless and all the stuff that I have to deal with.
Even though that's a lot of pressure, everyone has pressure. Everyone's job has pressure. There are people all over the world that would absolutely kill to live. There are people in just around us that would kill to be able to live in a BDSM dungeon and be surrounded by people exploring themselves freely.
That is absolutely true. And I have to remind myself of that sometimes when things get very stressful. And I think gratitude checks are incredibly important. However, I want to make really, really clear that that is half of the equation of actually improving your behaviors, at least for me.
Because for somebody that has low self worth saying to yourself, other people have it better than you can trigger a guilt response. And that's something your parents used to tell you, at least my parents used to tell me to shut me up because I didn't want to ever validate that I had any feelings. Whether they were right or wrong, it didn't matter. It was constantly invalidating.
Shut up. They're starving kids in China. Shut up. There's people that don't have this.
You're lucky. Shut the fuck up. You shouldn't have feelings. You shouldn't have feelings.
You shouldn't have feelings. And so then you tell yourself you're now programmed because everyone around you is telling you you shouldn't have feelings that you try to pretend that you don't have feelings. The reality is, yes, there's always going to be somebody that has it worse off than you. And that gratitude is very important to always keep in check.
But it is also important to keep in check that your feelings are valid. That just because you have it better than a lot of people doesn't mean that there aren't things in your life that are causing you stress, causing you discomfort, making you feel bad about yourself, making you feel bad about other people. And you need to not invalidate that because all that's going to do, at least all that did for me, was make me feel shamed that I had feelings so I tried to pretend I didn't have feelings and it didn't work. It just absolutely didn't work.
I had to acknowledge the fact that even though I am the fucking king of the world compared to most of the people in the world that shitty feelings are still shitty feelings. I can check my gratitude with what's going on and I can say, hey, you know, be grateful, but I also need to acknowledge, hey, I feel hurt by this person or, hey, the situation makes me feel uncomfortable and I need to be able to say my feelings are valid for that. Does that make sense? It absolutely makes sense.
I understand 100% what you're saying. I used to have, and to a large extent, still do, a huge pet peeve when anybody would tell me you should be grateful or, you know, bring gratitude into your life. Or I would be upset about something because the underlying message there was, don't stop complaining. Don't feel that way.
Your pain is not, I'm going to dismiss your pain because there's others who are in worse pain and that means that you have no right to complain about your pain. That was basically what I was told every time I was told to be grateful. It came with that attitude. And so as a result, I developed a huge hatred of anybody telling me you should be grateful.
That is absolutely not what I took from this post simply because as I got older and realized how lucky I was to have the things that I have in my life that, but for an accident of birth, I could be born in some country where anywhere, anywhere in anywhere in here, you could have been born 20 miles away from here in this crappy. Yeah, or I could have been born in a country where my, you know, no rights as a woman. No, absolutely. Just absolutely horrible, horrible lives.
And I didn't. And so for me, when I started to understand that, what I did was allow that to balance me when I was feeling super, super low, when I was feeling at my worst, it brings balance because to feel utterly depressed to the point of being suicidal is such an imbalance in your life because you're at the bottom and that's all you see that I needed that realization that others have it worse and I really should feel lucky in order to balance that scale a little just to start to pull myself out of that mud. So when I do feel that way, I don't invalidate my pain because yeah, absolutely, I could be a hundred times worse off, but that does not mean that my pain isn't real. It doesn't mean that I'm hurting right now.
I absolutely have the right to feel that way, but it makes me feel tremendously more balanced. When I can look at the big picture and realize how much better my life is than so many people on this planet. So how did we take a different take? Well, you start this is what fucking happens every time you and I talk about the show before in the kitchen, we both go off in our own different tangents.
I didn't see that at all. I didn't hear it because I always see I always am very careful about taking in that fucking gratitude argument. I can't stand it. And that's not what I got from this and you were saying I don't like that either.
It did take a while. It did take me quite a number of years to understand that I think there was a lesson I could take from both of those things. Sure. And I don't think the poster was trying to say that you, I don't think the poster wasn't trying to take the role of my shitty parents.
That wasn't the intention. But it was important. I saw that and instantly I felt like all this like, God damn it. You should skip and jump.
You should skip and jump while people are treating you shitty just because you have a roof over your head. And it's like no, shitty people are still, it still feels shitty. Pain in your brain still, yes, the situation is worse and more grave, but pain is pain. It's really there.
It's really happening. Whether it's valid or misinterpretation or whatever, the pain you are feeling is there. The brain is doing the pain stuff. It is pain.
So to pretend that you're not having pain when you actually have pain, it's just it's not going to work. And so that's where I really like the idea of having that balance. Anyone? I completely agree with both of you, but I was going to kind of go off of Kathy's thing.
I think it's a problem when other people tell you to, you know, like your situation's not that bad as people who have it worse, but when you're saying it to yourself, then I feel like it's more okay. Oh my God, that's very, very true. It's coming from me. It's not coming from that judgmental place.
So that's a good question. If you are dealing with a friend that or a partner that is kind of feeling bad about that situation, how would a better way be to approach a more balanced way to approach that? So you can still say, you know, like if they're like, what was me, what was me? And you're like trying to say, Hey, let's find out what would be a better way to say that instead of just saying, Oh, you shouldn't feel like I was going to.
Well, first of all, don't say that. I mean, I feel that if I start with that, you just walk up to someone and they're like, I feel like killing myself. And you're just like, like kind of like that spraying water in a fucking two year old space when they're having a day intro. I told you, you're old.
I thought that you do do a dog and not a two year old. I didn't have kids. I thought that's what you did with. Did you just work with kids?
Yeah, but they were like five or six years old. What's this? You're showing me what is this? A recipe for something?
Survival skill. It's from DVT dialectical behavioral therapy, a cousin of CBT, right? Not that CBT. The other one.
Yeah, we talked about dialectical. So the comparing is supposed to be something you do with yourself, not like push by others, but there's like other it's meant as like a Christ management of I really want to cut in unhealthy way right now. Let's distract myself like healthy shave your head, like run for a jog or like there's a list of things like I can actually join like the conversations I'm going to like list them. But there's a various list of comparing is one of the crisis skills like you don't use these as one of your regular old crutches of like every day you need to like these dress.
Don't do that. But like if you're in a crisis, it's one of the things you can do. Yeah, I was going to say I don't think you should ever tell someone that like in any form because no matter how you say it, if a person's really in that bad of a place, they'll probably take it. I have done that multiple times in conversations.
However, I don't start with that. Well, yeah, I mean, if you are going to bring up because some people really some and this is where I get an arguments with sometimes people that sometimes that tough love needs to come in and you need to point out to someone when okay, you're now moving into victim land. We're going to talk about that later actually. All right.
Okay. So I think there is a time where you can come in obviously start with love and encouragement and trying to deescalate, you know, the intensity of the emotion. And then sometimes it is okay to say, Hey, you have a lot of maybe that's how I do it that works better. I don't say other people have I try to show people the evidence in their own life.
I try to show people like like Kathy, you know, you have a lot of people that care about you in your life. You have, you know, you have a job that's working that you didn't have a while ago. You're on the greatest fucking BDSM podcast ever. There's some evidence that you are that you are doing okay.
So I think it's the same, a similar way of saying, Hey, you have some stuff going on in your life without being like, man, you should need to be grateful. Good. Be grateful, Kathy. I will be grateful for my hanging left side longer than the left.
I'm not grateful. What about the right nut? Kathy? How do you think my right nut feels?
I can't hear how many of you. Everyone's always giving attention to the left nut because it's longer. Why everybody right now, Kathy? Do you need more?
Do you need more? News devastated. She looked very happy to me. You know, news just amused.
What? We're moving on. Oh, are we? Yes.
Oh, wait. Okay. There. That was the thing.
Because what I didn't talk about was the fact that that owl will. Ow. That was painful. Ow.
Am I even stroke? I'm going to give yourself an aneurysm. Ow. Ow.
Ow. It sounds like a web, a dubstep. You know what? You know what?
It's kind of you the one who complains to me that our segments are too long. I'm not on another segment now. I'm thinking about the fact that I think I had my first official like no sex kind of service submission placing with owl last week. That owl has said, hey, I'm very interested in service submission.
And that's something that I really want to explore a little bit. And I'm in this giant dungeon that I can't clean all myself. And she'll really don't get paid enough to be overly thorough on some of that cleaning. And I have a bad back and blah, blah, blah, blah.
And so I said, hey, there's some things that are hard for me to do. Would you be willing to do those things? And she was like, yes. So it became this preparation for, because usually it's like my girls are very bratty.
And then, but they'll do things. You know, like me was great. Like sometimes she'll see I'm really, you know, I'm beat up. So she does the rolling pants.
She's my little savior with rolling pants or she'll wash dishes, you know, when there's a lot, but we're all doing, you know, cleaning stuff. But this was actually something that I've always been curious about because I have a lot of problems receiving help from people. And surely in a situation where it's like, well, I don't, you know, I'm not going to bless you with my fucking boogie cock afterwards, you know, which is usually how I justify, you know, getting people to do stuff for me. It wasn't going to be that.
I was like, I'm not going to do stuff for the sake of service. So it was amazing that literally I literally had owl, um, I needed to get the pieces of gum that the renters spit on the floor because they don't know where fucking trash can is. And they get a better grade of renter. I don't know what it is.
It's just like the men's parties. And I don't know the trash cans, right? And I laugh with a host about it because it's like maybe they're just so eager to suck dick that they're literally just standing in the hallway chewing, nom, nom, nom, nom, and some guy walks up and goes, Hey, I want a blow job. And they're like, Oh, the trash cans right there.
They stick it on fucking furniture. I'm like, dude, what? And then you miss it. And then people walk on it and now I have to.
Because owl have covered up. Well, I mean, every few months, I'll like it's sick of there's like 10 pieces of gum stuff inside. Who the fuck's been on the floor inside you fucking pigs. So, um, so all you had to do this.
I had to do it, but I thoroughly enjoy it. I see. I see. I see.
So this is my strange breed. I love to clean the idea. Wow. I love clean things.
I don't necessarily like to clean. Oh, no, I find it really like therapeutic kind of like after a long day of work, I love to go home and just like do the dishes or like clean the bathroom or something like I get that because I feel the same way about organizing things and making them put things in order. With shelves. Oh, yeah.
I can't wait to put all this shit in order. I don't know how tired I am. Oh, yeah. No, it's just a weird like, I mean, I used to hate it when I was a kid.
I hated cleaning when I was a kid, but as I've gotten older, I actually really enjoy cleaning now. And I also, but you took advantage of you. No, no, damn it. Well, that was the whole thing.
It was finding for me, I have to like make some sort of like, what's the interaction? Something has to be in it for everyone. Otherwise, I can't, I can't deal with it. So I literally, I think our, I guess we would call it a play scene lasted for like maybe 40 minutes, you know, and I spent like 11 hours preparing for it.
You know, like, okay, what am I going to do? And then how many of you know, and then how am I going to, you know, how do blah blah blah? And then okay, I'll make her, she'll like macaroni cheese. Okay, I'll make her dinner, you know.
The worst dominating in the world. I am not. This was new for me, let me work. So, I mean, we came to shut up.
So it's time for the thing and I strip her down. We put her in knee pads and I give her the instructions and I put, you know, wet cloths, wet little napkins on each one of the pieces of gum. And I said, hey, this is not just about me. This obviously helps me and makes me feel better because it's painful for me to get on my hands and knees with a fucking knife and scrape up gun.
I have a bad back. And it helps the dungeon and it helps the community and the cleaner the place is, you know, there's, so I tried to paint this bigger picture. So it wasn't just, because I can't take, like, I have a hard time just taking service for me like worship my cock, you know, and it ends with me, but I can definitely put my headspace around letting someone serve me because it helps, like even the rolling pins and the dishes, they help me so I can be better prepared to do the show or do what my service is. So I took a lot of care to try to make that and then, you know, off she went and it was, it was really cool.
And I felt really, you know, I mean, I was just kind of doing my cleaning, you know, some dishes and stuff like that in the kitchen and then she would come in and she'd say, okay, you know, I've done this and then I would go and look and see that literally the spot where the gum was was like 18 times cleaner than the actual fucking floor. Like there was just these clean dots all over the place. And I was like, wow, you're very good at this. It's very validating.
It was very good. And then, and then we finished and, you know, share what your experience was in sec. After Al left, you know, she fit and it was weird because there was a little play, you know, to kind of warm up and get in the headspace a little spanky, spanky, but like it was weird for me to not fuck someone at the end of that. So, so it, then she left and then I came in and I remember and it was really weird.
I came in and I looked down in the kitchen in this place where I'm for like a month. I'm like, I got to fucking get that. I got to fucking get that. And it just wasn't there.
And I don't know what it was. I got this little happy feeling and it was just, it made me feel very good. Like that was really cool. Thank you, Al.
That was that was a great service and thank you. So it was so I was like, Oh, she's like, let me have that fucking floor. Yeah, how badly I want to just like scrub the floors and make them all the same color. So it's funny that I have to work up now.
Miguel, the entire time you didn't even see behind you, Miguel and his girl. What is going on over there? Miguel is now literally, oh, she's serving him. She's rubbing his feet.
He's like, what he's trying to do is he's advertising to Al that he is willing to receive service because no, because 18 times, Miguel has said, I'll play with her. I think that's great. You can just come over once a week and clean my house. That would be amazing.
That'd be great. I'm totally okay with that. You shouldn't let her know. I'm totally okay.
Look at that. He was laying down and now he is sitting at attention. Wow. Miguel is not afraid to ask for what he wants.
I'm not afraid to ask for what I want. I just have to make sure that it works out in my head that everyone has a certain benefit for it. Look at Miguel. It's quite decadent.
It's getting his feet rubbed over there. What is going on in this? So I thought that was very interesting. So do you have any thoughts about what that's going on?
Because it was relatively new to do it in that way for you. Well, yeah, I haven't really done a whole lot of service submission before. I knew I really wanted to do it, but I just haven't found anybody to really do any sort of service submission with. And I also wanted to try to find a way for me to give back to the dungeon too, but I have no free time usually.
The fact that I was able to give back to the dungeon in some way, but also playing at the same time and getting something out of it for me was really cool. I was happy to do that. So you got the service to the community some playtime? Because this is what I asked the poster who's going to write about the service submission is I'm trying to find out more things like what do you get out of it and what would make you feel good about it and what would be like, oh, that was just somebody using me for free labor.
Well, I mean, so I kind of went through this thing in high school, right? I would just do things for people that didn't actually care. And eventually I realized, you know, like, this is stupid. Why am I doing this?
And so now I kind of only do it for people that I want to help out in some way or if I'm helping out, you know, like I said, with the dungeon and everything. Because I was kind of helping you out with it and then I was helping with the dungeon and then it was also just making me happy because I just like to clean. So yeah. Cool.
Good. A little side segment. Sorry about that. That was a second.
That was a second. That was a great. That was actually great. And so we'll learn more about this.
And the gals just like he's sitting there like, call me. Call me like the whole time. He's like, me, me, me, me, me. I do.
I'm a good attack. Remember this pajama. I do remember. I do remember.
I'm a radica. I've got a pajama. So we wrote some little haikus. Yeah.
That's what we do. Pajama. Aradica. Listen to her mark.
We used to ask a while back for other people to send us phones when we started doing this. And he said she's a big one. As a good sexual ad for himself. Cookie just got all pissed off.
That's what I told them. And then he goes into his story about how my haiku was included. Where was it? The Dorothy Chandler Pavilion?
When I was ten years old, my haiku was at the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion. Ten years old. You want to hear that? You guys want to know?
I memorized it. No, I want to hear it. From ten years old. I want to hear it.
You ready? It was about ants. Are you ready? Ants.
They are little. They eat your food at picnics. And then they get caught. Yes.
And because of that, that is made of my haiku expert in havoc verbed. We do more than one stanza. Well, why don't you just go ahead and read stanzas. Mark's haiku on what was our subject oral.
Oral. Kneeling at her feet, lapping up her sweet nectar, hands upon my skull. Leg muscles tensing from her lips come sweet moaning. I taste new honey.
This addictive drug, pink flower drips in moonlight, I consume in lust. She cannot keep count each new wave my mouth carries an endless buffet. Please contact me on Fettlife. You're just a bitter old man.
See, you get it. I don't understand what the detail is. What's yours? Hunger?
Oh. You're looking at Cathy. I got confused. Yeah.
Don't get me and calling me younger. I, I don't. The segment's going really long. Incinuation.
Tongue tracing the rubbery steel. Intent to her owls. God damn it. All right.
Damn. No stanzas there. All right, you know what? I'm crossing off mine just because I don't want to hear your fucking shit anymore.
There. I'll do my one. Thank you. Shut up.
I do so miss it in my dreams. I still feel it. It was exquisite. Even rhymes.
Little rhyme. I go Mr. Man. Licky Licky clit.
Tongue twiddle her love button. Make come smell the queef. No, it really wasn't. Don't drop that mic.
No extra stanzas needed. We're in the shit check in with Hunger. We haven't got that. Okay.
All of our new listeners have just left. We have like 100 new listeners and they're all like these guys weird. It was a great high-cool fight. That's it.
All right. Hunger. It's gone. Yes.
We were talking about all kinds of things. Horror movies and I'm in three chats here. Oh, the gum topic got really interesting in here for a bit. I didn't save the gum by the way.
Because people don't like sticky things. And they weren't sure if it was a typo of calm or if I actually meant to come. Because it's the chat. I would imagine that.
That Al is scraping gum off. No, that would be the stuff in the medical room. That is where she draws the line. I know we're talking about Robin Williams.
Oh, that's quite weird. Yeah, flubber. Well, Pat Chatham's become. Because it's October I was going and saw me and one hour photo.
Okay. Those are horror movies. They're probably all those. Very good.
More dramatic. Interesting. All right. So what's the point of mailbox?
We actually have two messages from Patreon supporters of ours. That's right. We got a new couple of Patrons. Yes.
Lynch writes to us and says, I have been a longtime listener and love the show. I cannot tell you how many times I have found myself laughing like a loon while on a packed train. I must look quite a sight. Keep up the good work.
Hope to be able to increase my donation soon. Lynch, you don't need to increase. I don't need to increase. And if you have a video of a loon on a train, I would surely like to see that.
And that right in. That would be amazing. And then Amy Roxie writes to us and says, I've been listening to your podcast for the last two years and I thought it was time I share my appreciation all the way from Canada. Hey.
Hey. It's good. I wonder if we just culturally appropriate their language. You need to stop using that term.
Please. You keep using it wrong, first of all. Whatever. And even when you use it right, it's so annoying.
And finally, we have a message from our own big impanda who writes to us in reference to our little argument that you and I had a couple of shows back where you were given the tough love and I was given the bookie. You've got to be nicer. And she started listening to past shows. Anyway, she says, I love you guys so much.
And I tell everyone in my community about you. Kathy, I really relate to your logical brain and your reactions to your emotions because of it sometimes. I love how grounded you are. Boogie, I relate to you on so many levels.
Your tough love talk that Kathy doesn't always agree with works for me. I had a really bad trigger about a month ago with my then daddy because of that night he is no longer my daddy. I was starting to spiral and desperately trying to get my shit together. But I was falling into a depressive episode.
This weekend I was listening to back episodes, working my way through for the second time now, which would make her an echo. Reverse. Alright. That is so.
And Boogie was talking about having a rough time because the girls were gone and he was insecure and starting to spiral. He talked about having conversations with himself in the mirror. He talked about how he was able to take care of himself himself. No one else was going to be able to fix him.
And things clicked for me. I had a nice long conversation with myself in the mirror. And since then I've been doing the things I know help pull me up. I've stopped doing the things that only temporarily help, but hinder in the long run.
I'm still struggling a little bit, but I'm on the upswing and I'm doing the work. Thanks for the reminder. I kicked my own ass and I'm doing better now. Oh, some more?
You both fucking rock. I can't get enough of you. And to make Boogie feel less awkward, Boogie, you suck big monkey balls. See, they love you.
They don't want to be nice to you. Only hanging balls. Big balls. Very good.
See, you have a balance. We hate each other on the show, but maybe that, am I the yang or the yang? Are you the sharon or am I the air of fat? What is going on here?
I actually said that it fondest memorial. I actually remember that. So no. I need that the fucking truth.
Kathy, you've confused me. There's like haiku attack dildo and haiku attack dildo. Haiku attack. I think you know what that means.
It's a typo. I'm going. They're going. Okay.
This is about dildos. In-singuation. Tongue tracing, the rubbery steel. I'm trying to wrap this.
See, ungirs, find something that works for them and just fucking owns it. Brings at home. This brings it home. I can only use it once.
It's only funny once. It's only funny once. So I figured I'd use it tonight. That is amazing.
Oh, that's so fun. That is amazing. Okay, Kathy, you have one. Yes.
Useless plastic thing, because it sure ain't going in. Sword fight. Let's begin! Hi cool attack.
I hate dildo so much. Wait, was I the only one? Okay. Didn't need.
Yes, stands across. No wiggle over here. Suction cup dildo. Stuck to her back as she wiggles.
Other girl sucks it. I cool attack. That was last night. I have a suction cup dildo and it was like I was warming them all up for the big marshmallow pull and so I pushed one over and I took the suction cup dildo and I slammed it in right above the ass of one and then it was there we were laughing and they were wiggling it and I just grabbed someone else and forced their face and mouth raped him with the back dildo.
This is the backstory to your haiku? Yeah. Yeah. That's it.
So sometimes Kathy and it looked kind of awkward. That was what was funny about it. We all had a good chuckle, a good dirty adult chuckle. Sometimes I think he was really lucky and sometimes I feel really sorry for her.
Hey cool attack. Sometimes love is less than nice. You may need some fucking advice right now. What are we supposed to acknowledge James?
You're gonna do that now? Wait, were we talking about some audience? Were you bringing something? Wait, get up, get in the mic and just lean over to the mic, talk directly into the mic.
Hi. Why kick him out because we were starting the show and he just walks over and he's like, hi, I just, I am here. Okay, get in all this. So James, who the fuck are you?
So I am a graduate student at USC and I am doing a report on BDSM. It's actually my final for this term. He's using us as his final. James, let me tell you something.
You probably had a good scholastic career up until this point. Now you're gonna be joining us in the dungeon. Just remember, we warned you. Well, as long as it goes down in some bright, exciting flames.
You probably have probably got a guy. So yeah, he came in and we walked through Threshold and then we talked about some BDSM and all this stuff that we do. And he's like, Hey, you went to the rope class, Pro Villains Rope Class history. Did you do any time?
I did. Yeah, I got some photos of my hands tied up. Someone else's hands tied up a guy did a full, I don't know what it was called. A backpack tie or something, but he tied up all my arms and everything.
So yeah, it was nice. It was cool. Yeah. So now, then, huh?
Yeah, yeah. Why are you fucking get your fucking lazy ass off the couch? He's getting massage. Get the fucking micro Jesus fucking retard, correct.
Any bear, how many times that is waddling your ass up? I have to get up. I'm getting a massage. Yeah, it's a fucking radio show.
I don't know, Miguel. At some point, James, forgot he was actually doing, you know, like, I'm starting research and he just got all tied up and, you know, like the camera throwing up at some other place. I'm like, Hey, James. And he's like, Oh, yeah, yeah, I have to do the report.
I'm going to die. So back to the microphone, James. So this is the question that we usually have. So were you kinky before this?
I wouldn't necessarily say particularly kinky, but I would say I'm always open mind isher. You know, so now did you find all of a sudden, you're like, Hey, wait a minute. I actually like this. I mean, I could, I could be interested in it.
You know, look at that. They come in for the education and they leave perverts. And we have you to blame. Boogie.
I don't think it's you. I don't think I did. Well, thank you. And we look forward to the report and hope you get a fantastic grade because God guilt sucks.
When next thing you know, he's fucking outside in a fucking motorhome pissing on our door and saying, Oh, damn it. Absolutely. I'll be knocking on your door every single day. I can't wait for that.
Cool. Sit the fuck down. All right. So some fucking advice.
Yes. Baby B wrote to us again. She said, one thing you both have spoken about a lot on the show is the importance of STD testing before play and talking to your partners about protection. I'm wondering if you would mind sharing with the audience some more detail on how you have those conversations because I have a primary partner and we are often in a situation where we are looking for a female third and those are hard to come by.
So by the time I have found a girl who is down, I always find myself hesitating to do anything to derail a potential experience, even though I know it's the responsible thing to do. Staying safe is super important, but it can also be super awkward to bring up when you aren't even sure yet if the person wants to play with you. Not to mention the protection between ladies who are playing together is often taboo in the outside the love lab world. How do you start the conversation?
That is a fantastic question. I'm very glad. Usually what I do with a new partner is I come to the dungeon and I approach somebody and I can see that they're obviously interested in play and the first thing I do is I expose my penis to them and I say with my hairy nutsack with my hairy left fucking hang in three inches lower than the right nutsack and I say you want to get on this? There's some protocols that need to be in place.
First thing, you need to go get tested and I'll talk to you when you're done with that. Do not say it like you are such a lie. Just walk away. Don't listen to both of you.
Nutsack dragging between my legs is a walk away. No. Do, do, do, do, do, do. It actually makes sense.
Like a fucking cat. Seriously, that is not what you do. In my head. What happens in your head doesn't help any of us.
No, the first thing what I just heard read was your biggest challenge and that is you have to get over that fear of rejection to default to the thing that's going to protect you and your partners. As my hunger is now just scratching his chest like a dog. Just with two like double fist it. Just literally that scratch you just heard in the background.