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Nov 1, 2016 1 hr 2 min

178 Stranger Claps

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Cupcake inception intro, The Walking Dead premiere, Supergirl laser questions, DCTV, Wolverine/Strange talks, Son of Zorn redux, RIP Steve Dillon, bad app-hole

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Welcome to the Nilfauce, just a clap. Once again, I'm dead with me as Doug. It's been a million years since we've actually recorded it together. Unfortunately for Doug, I've watched a lot of recalls drag race, so I'm going to say so many hilarious things he wanted to understand.

Also, you texted me in the dream and I bought you cupcakes. I'm actually really surprised I texted you in the dream and asked for cupcakes. It's a lot more likely I would ask you for, like, peanut butter and M's. Well, you didn't, and I got you cupcakes.

No, no, I'm not saying. No, thank you for the cupcakes. I'm just saying it seems a little out of character. So, we should jump right in with the dick on the table.

I'm talking to that's finally back for season seven. That's not a dick on the table. That's the suck my nuts elephant in the room. Oof.

We talked last week. I have a few things to say about that. Okay. One, Lucille looked kind of cheap and really shoddling.

After braining two different people, the walking dad. I really think that they could have done a better job than Lucille is a problem. Second hole. It's a barbed wire wrapped baseball bat.

And it looked shiny and weird. With shiny blood? No, I mean, before that, the actual bat looked weirdly shiny. Okay.

So are these the first people that Negan's ever brained? No. I mean, that's my pitch. Okay.

Okay. I'll give you that. It looked too polished. It looked too.

Okay. I mean, good lord. That's the goryest thing I've ever seen. Well, now let's let's back up.

Let's back up. One. It's revealed that the person he's hitting and the end of the last season is Abraham. Change around for the month.

Yes. Who goes out? And I'm sorry to quote. I mean, the thing is like Negan said it best.

Going out like a champ. Like he stood up. He stood back up after that. I'm not sorry.

I'm actually fucking shocked that he didn't take out on Rita's. When Daryl Dixon stood up and sucked. Well, okay. Well, one thing I'm going to get to that in a moment.

But he takes it. He takes it. Abraham first. Says like take it like a champ.

And that's the thing. I think that the thought process is Abraham's a big man. He's a protector. By fucking obliterate this person.

I'm already going to humble. And he could be. And he says like a right hand man. Because I would humble all of you.

Did I expect Abraham? No, not even a little bit. Did I expect Len? 100%.

We'll get to that in a moment. For a couple moments. Sorry. Lizzie did actually call Abraham.

I did not. I did not. Because I love my Abrahamisms. And I want them.

You know what? He went out. I'm from the kit go called the Enchinger Ron Verman. Okay.

But he went out on an Abrahamism. He went out with suck my nuts. He went out with a phrase that Negan was actually like taken aback by. He's like, did he just say suck my nuts?

And it's like, yeah. Because he's fucking Abraham. So. So that was them going against the comic.

No, I'm fine with that. So in the aftermath. Darryl, excuse me. Darryl Dickson completely lunges him.

Everybody absolutely thinks that he's going to be the next victim of Negan. He's not. He completely takes out Glenn. Well, okay.

He's going to be worse now. Okay, hold on. You're going to get yourself. I'm sorry.

I really do want to go B by B. Not B by B on this one. Bye bye, bro. Yeah, really.

That. Yeah. Darryl Dickson, no memory. It's like punches, Negan in the face and goes, you get one.

I think we're next on that. And punches Glenn, which we'll get to in a moment. Well, the thing is that you get one, but if Darryl had his option, he'd get like 20. It's not one because he only wanted one.

It's because he got one because he's held back. Like four people. By four of Negan's people. And Negan says, like, was it Dwight walks over the open?

With the crossbow. With his crossbow. With Darryl's crossbow and goes, do I do it? And he goes, you don't kill this little thing that tastes.

Like, he's mine, which is at the end of the episode. But that he says like, Darryl's useful. We'll see if- But I think it's just that he wants to break Darryl. And he broke fucking Rick.

I don't think that's hard. You know, he's got kids. I know. No.

Well, okay. He doesn't know about Judith. He doesn't know about Judith. He doesn't know about Judith.

He doesn't know about Carol or, I'm upset Darryl. Carol and Darryl. The electric sixth song. Carol versus Carol.

Yes. He's electric sixth song of all time. I wouldn't say greatest, but- We need to eat a little bit about that right now. But I would say that like, he doesn't know about Carol and Morgan.

He doesn't know about Judith and Father Gabriel. Okay. So there are weaknesses in Negan's planes. But then, he beats Glenn so far, he pops an eye out.

Oh no. First blow in. First blow. First blow pops his eye out and causes pretty much all of Glenn's auto-autonomous-probably functions to start seizing, in which one he tries to make out, which was very sweet, but very morbid.

He'll find a baggie again. He won't. Okay. So all of us read the comic.

I mean, we're assuming Glenn was going to die. Well, but they were pressured. They were pressured to either go to comic or not. Like, you know what I mean?

I'm not my bitch. I really think they took a fucking pussy ass move with doing a cliffhanger for the last season. I don't think so at all. Fuck you.

There's a giant pussy ass move. No. I think it was great. Like, cinematically- There's a giant faction of fans that are boycotting the show because they don't like the violence that happens when you can beat out Glenn's eye.

Okay. No one's boycotting the fucking show outside of the parents council of TV that like, frick the fuck out when Carol shot Liz. So fuck off. Like that was- Actually, not true.

But I'll let you have a weapon. No, that is absolutely true. And that was like what two seasons ago? That's pretty true.

No. Yeah. Flowers, Doug. Look at the flowers.

And they went- Exactly. They went- They went- They went- They went- They went- They went- They went- They went- They shot a fucking kid and I'm like, aye. Kid was a threat. B.

Kid was a psychopath. Plus she was a threat. Are you- Kid was a psychopath. Kid was a threat.

Kid should have been shot in the fucking head. You know why? Because she ate and was killed baby Judith, which is like the paradigm of innocence in the show. And two killed her sister so that she could come back as a zombie because that's their world.

Like, bitch, need it to go. So Doug, I want to ask you, what do you think Judith is father? Biologically? Yeah.

I mean, we know her actual father. Ricks her father. Ricks absolutely your father. So, sadly, like, literally I think her father is Rick.

No, like her father's- I think biologically I think- Her father's right. Her father's absolutely right. But biologically it's so shame. Like, uncomfortably shame.

Which just means she might be a bigger bass and Carl. And Carl on this episode- I was just talking about that. How do you line and draw on his arm and his dad was going to cut it off and he's like, or, or the party would be like, the entire party would be just on the head. And he was like, just do it.

Just do it. And I'm like, Carl! But then? Well, there was a very, um, I don't want to say this bibbly.

I mean, this bibbly, a very Abraham moment. Oh. Where Abraham- well, Abraham's going to kill his kid and go, go, go, ha ha, JK. And that's- He really knows it, but yes.

Yeah. And, um, Negan has a moment with Rick and Carl's arm. Not Carl, but Carl's arm. And he goes, aha, JK.

Um, I think you just want to see how far he could- Obviously, break Rick to be part of Negan's organization, which- If you've read the comics, if you watch the show, even if you're a new to the show, you know that Rick is not going to take this line down. He's not. He's going to be propped up by the show and he's going to be propped up by Rosita, uh, Maggie, um, or they say like, get to where you need to get, which was Piltop, um, and Alexandria, and do what you need to do to start bringing Negan down. So I think this season's going to be- I think this season's going to be all about, um, setting up the war.

I think we'll see the beginning of the war at the end of the season. Um, and by the way, that war might include a tiger, uh, Shiva, pet- I'm sorry. I'm so sorry to interrupt. I'm so sorry.

But Shiva- I have been yapping time. Oh, for a fuck's sake. Um, Shiva, pet of Ezekiel, uh, who runs the kingdom, who's seen a few people from, uh, late last season. Please.

Oh really? I'm gonna punch a direct leader's stupid type of place. I don't want to see the only- the only idea. I'm sorry.

Please. No, seriously. So I'm big fan of this website called Dorvly. Smells exactly how it sounds.

And they have a- basically sketch version of every walking dead the day after it comes out. But after the last episode happened, they had one of those first season versus now episodes. And I was like, first season. Oh god, I hope it's not a walker.

Oh wait, it's just a person. Now it's a- oh god, I hope it's not a person. Oh wait, it's just a walker. Yeah, you did have that moment with Rick on this new season that he saw the walker walking.

Because that's what they do. Uh- Will they come in towards him, but okay. Or it's- Well he was in the RV. I was head advancing.

Yeah, yeah. The walker was advancing. And he- ah, I've gotta show you that thing. Very hot, but anyway.

Um, but then like he was in the RV and he didn't get out and kill it. Where he was like, literally the more dangerous thing is- Well we've reached a place in Waukker head where humans are scary open walkers. Walkers are a known quantity, humans fucking aren't. And my problem with Niggad, like I said, is that his back was too clean.

This is the first time he's done this, does anyone? If it is, bitch you a sociopath. But if you're dealing with walkers, you know how to eff and kill them and move the shit on. I don't think that was the first person he's killed with Lucille.

Then Lucille was way too goddamn clean. But you see him go to the frocks, I've been cleaning axe. So you know he knows- Because it's not clean off like weird chunks of flesh and all that other nonsense. He- Does it clean clean cleanse half a little bit lately, but it does not.

What do you finally beat the actual death out of her life out of Glen? And he walks about that- Will he die? Oh! With the chunk?

With the chunk? No thank you. Oh my god, like a chunk of meat of Glen. Glen meat stuck on his- I mean the bat was way too clean before that, so if you've ever done anything before- No, I think that he might clean it weirdly ritualistically.

You know what, I watched the pilot episode of Sun's Anarchy and look at how clean all of their patches are and see how awkward and alien it is. And then as the- Like I said, it's a clean bat. It will never be that anyone to death before clean pads for a motorcycle club. Never did anything we ever before.

Like I said, it's one of those things where- And then as you go through the seasons- Yeah, exactly. It gets more muddy, bloody, and so forth so long. It's one of those things that they want you to accept that they've done this before, but they give you a completely clean prop. It doesn't make sense.

Yeah. Cause I mean, I love Jeff Rieckin's game. Cause he's great as me again, but like I said, the prop I gave him, it's too clean, it's too polished. Is this the first time he beats him, he springs out?

No. I don't know that, I looked at your bat. The way that the Dwight reacts to him, there's no way. Dwight.

Dwight. Dwight. What's the point? Dwight.

Dwight. Dwight. Dwight acts towards him like there's no way. He's afraid of me again.

Which I know Dwight kind of comes into his own in the comics and we'll see if that happens. Especially after the brutalist brutality. I'm so glad I can see me putting my hand over my face but I know he tried to find the word brutality. My thing is that we all said that we got pressure to not go with the comics between them.

I did not say that. There were a lot of stuff on my own story. What I said was it was bullshit that they did the cliffhanger. The cliffhanger was so fucking good though.

It was not. Yeah, it was. No. Yeah, no.

From a writing standpoint. I'm sorry. Did they have us talking about it for eight months? Absolutely.

At one point. We all knew it was Glenn. We just didn't know it was Abraham. At one point during that episode Rick like imagines like Maggie, Carl, Rosita being hit by bats and at one point I was like.

I'm already escaped. At one point I was like oh fuck is this a party wipe? And Rick's the only one left. Which would have been really fucking interesting.

No, Kirkman has actually talked about how much he regrets taking Rick's hand in the comics. Because he said quote, trying to button a shirt with one hand. Which I Lizzie thought that that Negan would take Rick's hand. Rick's hand.

Well I mean he walks into a RV with a hatchet and goes and he kept talking about right hand right hand right hand. It did make sense. And then when Negan threatened to take away Carl's hand I was like what a horrible bastardization of that. So like I said, Kirkman has talked about repeatedly how much he regrets taking Rick's hand in the comic because how hard it is to actually function with only one fucking hand.

Can't figure a show with only a right hand. Actually has more to do with like the day to day act. Also I never thought their pairing was a good match. Oh you're not all about Rachael?

No. You're not shipping that? I thought it was stupid and ridiculous and sloppy. I don't think it's ridiculous and sloppy.

I think it makes sense. I think it's easy. Okay easy I'll give you. Easy I'll give you.

Emotionally there is like one plane they connect on. Two if you put their genitals together. But that's it. Well Carl.

Carl. Because Bichon so into that. She actually does become a mother figure name. She's a protector.

She's not a mother. It's different. Have you seen her backstory? She's totally a mother.

Yeah I found this. No. Past? Yeah.

Or past? Or past. I think it's lazy to make him lovers. Like super lazy.

Who would you have Rick as balls with? I haven't put his penis in. Nothing good comes with it. Oh you're one of those.

Show King. It's still. No no but like you're one of those who like love can't exist in a zombie apocalypse. Like are you against like the Glenn Maggie thing?

I'm not against love. I think his priorities are wrong. I think he should be focusing on his kids. And yeah I consider Judith one of his children.

Well yes we all do. Sorry. I think he's a selfish e-bag. Really Rick?

Yeah kind of. Okay. I'm a little taken aback by that. I think he sacrificed so much for his family and the group and all of that.

Every time he stops paying attention to his children something horrible happens. Yeah one of them gets to put him. And then he'll get yelled at by a person who's shown for eating an energy bar. And then.

Almost has his hand cut up. Exactly. Well but like you could do that like you could do that like thought through every character. I could but I mean I chose not to be a parent so I'm good.

Then you don't know. Yeah I do. So I'm good. Alright well I'll ask you a question.

Yeah. And super girl. You watched the first season. I did.

But grudgingly but I did. So Superman has been introduced into this new season which I have no issue with. I watched the first episode and went. Okay.

Right. Right. Right. Right.

They're like the Duke boys. I guess those two boys are gardening. Okay. Okay.

So maybe I missed this on the first season. Okay. So they use their I guess for maybe you can correct me. They use their energy vision which is effectively their heat vision through their eyes.

Like Krypton's half. Yeah. But it's blue. Why is it blue?

Is it because. I would have to go back and rewatch again. I'm not 100% sure why it's blue. I do know that at some point in the first season she tried to use heat vision and it went wrong.

I don't have to tell you. I do not care for super girl. I think it's bullshit. The only reason I watched the entire first season is because I knew it was making the jump to the CW.

I have to tell you. I do like the idea of Superman coming. I do like the actor of the cast who's doing it. Crazy.

Eat a dick. I do like the idea of their casting to me also. I can't think of the actress names would be played eggs on a true blood. Yes.

I do love of me. I cannot think of the name of that actor. And I do like I don't think of me there. When's a schlot?

Junior or whatever his name is? Alanic Beale. Oh, uh. Oh, it's a flocheart.

Thank you. Can't grant. No, no, the actress. It's a flocheart.

I like her in the casting of the first season. I don't think she makes the second season. I'm pretty sure the CW couldn't pay her enough. I found her interesting.

She's going to be a social guest star. Like I said, it's just the lead. And her sister. Yeah.

She's one of the two seasons of Arrow. We didn't give a fuck about what was happening in the city. We cared about flashbacks. Yeah.

There was no flashbacks in Supergirl. No. Why would there be a. No, it's a joke.

What are we caring about? Like the first two seasons of Arrow. We didn't give a shit about anything but what was happening on the island. We didn't get flash till season three and we left flash immediately.

Yes. Like I was completely salty about the pilot. I'm like I won't like this. I'm like this and I love that.

Oh, I got it. Yeah. I was so salty about the pilot flash. I'm not gonna have that.

pilot was it yeah the salty pilot of life the back door pilot I actually was back door by that we're not gonna talk about legends tomorrow because I'll just get to you I'm actually loving that second season first season was so bad yes it was second season fucking awesome oh ever like I said super girl you had to watch the second season of legends I need to be more episodes before I trust them all right we'll get into that in a second you can talk about it now are you sure I don't want to the last thing was gonna say super girl I need like four episodes before I can trust you not to suck and if that'll be like within the crossover like vinda pass crossover stone camp the flash episode is super real is fantastic no it wasn't it was it had a lot of cute jokes but that's what they were cute jokes it was what they could do with the character if they had lead on CBS have you watched the last couple episodes of Legends of tomorrow I've had like three I think two with this one I'm gonna be a few more really based on the bad guys based on the first season based on the second season bad guys based on the first season how shitty it was can I type of bad guys I'm listening no I've watched them I'm just saying considering how much I hate it the first fucking season I need more from the second season to trust it to not be shitty the fact that dark has teamed up with Erebog thong like the original pre like taking over the guy from scrubs face having the original Erebog thong you're not listening to me hey Damien dark and Erebog thong like are bad guys on this season you know how awesome that is it's really awesome sure captain Cole would be all up on that little eventually show I'm sorry I thought the first season the legend of tomorrow was so fucking hand-handed and stupid what's it was it was very hand-fisted it was very trying to shunt themselves oh look Rory's here shut up all this crap in it was very shunting themselves into the continuity with white canary and the Adam the Hawks the Hawks yeah that was actually really rough Adam I just said yeah at this point firestorm no we still like firestorm I didn't like firestorm I said they ship it on to crap in there this season let's let's care what other immortal world were you gonna have and it worked with and then completely fucking it up I didn't like they fucked it up actually like their life together exactly like I said hamfisted in cranking all that crowd in it's like very bike workers this season they come across a team might rhyme with JSA actually not that bad and how heavy handed the series is if you let me finish the team realizes coming across the JSA is very regimented has the leadership and that they might there might be something to learn from that so I think that's gonna be the whole thing for the season just like them becoming on actual team yeah the liquor giving me is grumpy cat and you're absolutely right to do so but I don't know I don't know why the series is watching I really don't know why the series governor does Berlin's exactly I have no idea why the series got renewed I would much rather have K-glots back on fucking arrow because they really got the meter I agree actually I think in the crossover I wanted to go back to I'm sure she will but it's one of those things where I'm like well the whole thing is like her hunting like Damian Dark like through time also one of the dark so powerful he wasn't that powerful but like he's become like the new Vendo Savage where he's there throughout time because of the immortality of the hot girl hot no no we're not doing that we're not doing shadow thief like there's no that bullshit it's that she's basically like looking for vengeance for her sister's death which she may or may not know actually happened it's weird because time travel gives me a headache exactly which by the way I'd like to talk about so apparently the director of Deadpool has left the project to Miller to minor whatever's name is I would have to get up on my phone due to production problems with Brian Reynolds Wow really apparently it was an animal party but yeah what makes me really worried about Deadpool too like your book a little Deadpool that a Deadpool to electric cool pool who who yeah can I try to get it on this I'm wow I believe this is this is unsupported report hold on look it up no no don't don't do it and my phone has been taken away no no it's charging Max I put it down so we've seen the news Logan trailer we talked about briefly last week let's talk about yes yes sorry let's talk about Wolf ring beyond Thunderdome not old my love it is to some smaller extent old man Logan it has been it has been released since we were going to last week to this week but the little girl is is next 23 is this clone yeah I'm wasn't thrilled that fine I'm also less and filled with that I think it's easy I think it should be someone I hope summers who like really good nights like the the news you know I get that it's me wanting them to do straight up old man Logan but they're never gonna fucking do that well they believe they can't um there's talks about that one that's Marvel vs Fox they could find a way by making the Avengers absolutely like I said not a vendor I can't America which was effectively adventures 2.1 I I'm not enthralled I really just want them to do old man Logan which I get is an impossible three but but not just get not dig around that great because I feel like they're kind of digging around I feel like they're going soft over apparently in the National trailer like my international trailer yeah I feel like they're going soft over I think they're gonna I think they're gonna forgo language for violence which makes complete sense to me and I'm so over yes but you know they already named Wolverine so my vagina is completely derived what do you remember Wolverine the movie I was terrible are you talking about over origin no Wolverine the Wolverine one with him Japan yeah over your son's ass though it didn't give us this will eventually yeah walk forever until you find Wolverine and make it sequel that was actually pretty awesome no double those fucking Wolverine eventually brought us to pull but god damn yes are for sure you're a good man but you got him out there you also refer to say we're just having meals or claws like a bag woman what he said that was like god damn it you got him right we're gonna suppose my shot and get got him wrong oh no no remember has it remember has it can you talk about it for a slightly less for minutes done so live shriver is ended up being in this movie leave shriver is ended being this movie as saber tooth so what does that mean in terms of continuity yes you get to hear me unfiltered about this for the next couple minutes fuck all right here we go what does that mean shot at what does that mean Wolverine origins a in continuity b didn't die saving Wolverine from the quote unquote Deadpool I say quote unquote because if you saw it's not Deadpool because it was yeah okay fucking horrible yes also less than four minutes four minutes is a long time you say what what if it was a pre cleanup oh I thought it meant a p-notch well so that there's members as cities there's s s s s s s s s d d d d d d d d where where so there's rumors that leave shriver will be in the next Wolverine whether it be tangentially or not because he was a great saber to the other way better than Taylor Moore Taylor main sorry I didn't have problems Taylor main is super to I don't know I did I saw what remember that part where it's one of those things I feel like he just did what he was told it didn't do enough research which is not a him problem is a production problem remember that part in the first act movie where maybe it goes like one time in the machine I'm gonna be weekend and you're gonna have to protect me and so there's like shwa like literally like had okay I get your problem with that scene like that was my issue like hold on that was my one issue with Tyler main as they've just I thought it was great casting looked fantastic dude he moved and I'm a list of oh yeah like knocked over trees trash storm it was great but that but that one scene where he's like you're gonna protect me from the expanse so what you're talking about is that they played him stupid yes okay and saber tooth is not stupid never done no so you might think dumb decisions we have something else to talk about today actually is today's date the 25th today's is 25th what comes out on November 4th doctor ancient not strange okay so we'll talk about that in two weeks not excited I'm interested I'm not scared I'm not thrilled with the gelette commercials but I've not to like commercials with him I'm a little bit scared because I'm like did you guys give me all the sizzle in the teaser no it's just one of those with him walking and he says the doctors range of Rose the flow and you're like that's an absolute comic book panel right fucking there I don't know I don't think we've got anything out of this on we don't know about dorm and we don't know about oh no we know nothing about no more or more door for that or do whatever the less Swedish oh the guy from Hannibal yeah I guess that I can't pronounce this fucking name I feel really bad about it because I love him I love him at handball I love him at 007 I think you'll be great but the thing is like you can't pronounce freaking a in terms of doctor strange like there's no no they've given us like you have more more door I'm trying to say more door you say more door but M.O.R. do R is the name of like his opposite in the learning experience you know what the hobbits gonna throw with ring that's not good that's actually more a more door goddamn it shut up those ones where it's um I I feel like it's old but they've also given us the room for the plot so I'm like cautious I'm excited you haven't had Lord murder murder murder murder or murder I hate you for making me say brother Lord Merber or don't have it like we haven't seen don't remember don't remember everybody get it's too merber I okay so so so I have to listeners I have not seen listeners I've taken very bad day a while ago and I immediately texted Doug and asked him to text me back and gurz berms they get the thought of this and he immediately texted me back with visuals murder her bird bears but still that's a thousand I think constables and like maybe a hundred thousand I don't know where you're at but my guys doctor strange good my sister strange dr. shrewd I can't do that gurz berms no I can't do it yeah we really can't we haven't seen any of the two big bad guys yeah well that's one of those things words I can't think of that extra name yeah yeah fucking Hannibal just say Hannibal no he's a very talented actor not to be confused with I was a very talented actor I feel like a dick bag not knowing his name because he was great handle and was pretty good double seven like I loved him in a little series I cannot leave it got canceled he's the big bad supposedly in this and he's could be one of them but it's one of those things were like has this quiet menace yeah like almost reasons your generals like good thank you ice clench well now it's just one of those things you know sometimes you walk past somebody for like clench your butt and you're like no thank you no thank you know thank you know thank you that's that actor it's it's not a bad way it's just like an almost visceral response okay well I'm not bored I'm just I'm that's boy I'm not bored I'm just wondering what the opposite of that would be where your butthole warms and unclinches or anal hey you know is that what it is hey you know let's move on so flash okay for me minutes ago we're talking about super girl talking at dr. Strange not one time with a dash yeah flashpoint how far back are you going to get the season okay last time you were actually recorded before that but yeah flashpoint beginning of the season they wrapped up in one episode which pissed me right the fuck off right there with you and said as much I'm not okay this is also the same problem I have with Iron Man 2 when they fucking wrapped up the demon bottle issue and what got their movie and didn't whoa actually they did not even do the same as the ballops it kind of did it in the Avengers when he hung out with a kid who's okay for a while it didn't have PTSD anyways I'm in three but flashpoint what's whitewashing problem and then like everything like white white white like okay I said this last week but like that he goes to them says I can tell everything that was different and they go yeah everything's fine I'm talking to my dad again I'm grieving my brother oh Francisco and I have like a new vibro I have like a vibesuit like I just thought I was wrapped up way too quick in the first couple episodes outside of the fact that obviously I want to say this real quick outside of no one knows that Caitlin has killer frost pockets so we'll see how that plays out yeah one of my favorite times of all time is the flashpoint on this way being a gun toting Batman yeah and mark the way being this crazy ass joker yeah so flash charges through the times three completely ruins everything Thomas is horrible Martha's a criminal she completely I want to say kidnaps and kills when it's her be the end points yes I wouldn't have one in the end Thomas what Thomas gives the flash a note for Bruce which he takes the Bruce which comic book wise they don't show enough of a reaction to the animated version I was very poignant unless you watch the internet version version Batman goes it's my father's handwriting and the fly says read it and then that opens the note and it's a big button thanks internet because now it's I've always left the flashpoint story especially because it gives people a giant jumping off point to do so many other things well if we're going to do two and not to do don't say no 52 because I'll do this convergence the amount in between convergence I get a little lost in how many times DC has to read but of their universe I love their flashpoint I love how interesting it is I love how it lets people do anything they want to do I feel like the flash really did not pay respect to it they give it one episode and then swept it away I feel like they were like let's do this and then let's not do this we're done out no I think there are like some fallouts okay you're right you absolutely right the fallout what's the fallout where's the Caitlin and it's like John junior versus baby Sarah you're right you are right like the fallout of flashpoints the Iron Man 3 demon and bottle thing it was a giant event in the comics and they gave it this much time and they gave it zero respect and how much you go fuck yourself I agree also arrow but press review oh god no oh I am completely unimpressed with arrow I mean we haven't been for like two seasons so soon no I haven't but I like to stuff the the bruslava on the season first lava that's probably what I got closer saying I like that but I don't look prometheus I said this last week prometheus is a tech based villain and for him to have like a weird like Nolan scarecrow ask a mask like doesn't make any sense like why does he look like ragman why does he look like alchemy on flash it doesn't make any sense to give flash a tech based villain would be actually really cool so why make it look like he's wearing a skin mask a mask made out of skin I said last week gay hand movement looks unimpressed you are laid I am not throw prometheus on this season we'll see the next episode comes out tonight so we'll see new shows on Lucifer I am so I hate the premise of the show but I still have to get part of for Tom Ellis between Tom Ellis and seven of nine whatever her name is I'm Trisha Helfer that's not seven of nine no that is not that's Jay Ryan yeah she's okay nerd nerd finger she was a silent number jerk off his mother what he's Lucifer she's his mother no but who is she and I'm also like that she was she was not a second not a second but I know Trisha Helfer was one of the I think she was like sound number six or something they were biological based whatever okay moving on super hot and Lucifer can't stop talking about is mom is weird no not not enough for enough um now is is she sends her to basically live the life of the human she took over yes which means that she has to try and take care of these children and she's failing at it horrifically however I have to do a deal not the news episode it's the last time so just trying to help her it's not going well he's also losing his wings while it's happening so he's dealing with happening well men though yeah many the problems he also f mays so maybe that's why he's losing his wings he banged a demon yeah but it's may so yeah just say I'll bet you she's literally hell cat and sack see you talk about other things on the game full TV series some is on I'm digging it there kind of shy away from I'm watching the board you miss the less upset where he saw like dress up his entire apartment is a theory and like death cult thing I was on but I want to be serious if I'm bored I think it's fun I think it's fun I think it's cute I don't know if it'll actually make money or feel renewed and if they don't I don't care I love watching well the fact that like eating just like correct out her goblin okay first of all she cracked me the fuck up I will watch her all day every day that's sure I'm yeah John's yeah sure I'll find I will watch her run anything she does any day anytime ever I think she's phenomenal she's wonderful and I've left her on many different sitcoms and I loved her on server yeah I love her also I also have to say though that we had to see things a little no we have this season finale on last man on earth sure we did it's a summer show this is not late they're leaving now who oh it's pretty sad first of all candy you're fucking dick back second bull actually but we saw that somebody somewhere else don't watch it you know about more season you can binge it it's very sad you have a dance I have a one-wind red shirt and the up-week Richard you're not gonna be changing this one probably not just watch your right so rest in peace Steve Bill why is this a Richard this is not a red shirt all right fine some red shirt you are one of the creators of preacher one of the most influential graphic novel slash comics of all time absolutely his art you what it's drawn by Steve Dylan you know it's him doing preacher it's him during what's the next judge right it's him doing punisher you realize no one big bitch with him right you couldn't draw two lips knows the same way twice yeah I mean I do not call the man for that that was our picture the thing is preacher was such a instrumental title to my writing it's not just you it's everyone who would not believe everyone on Instagram on Pinterest and on the actual just social media side yeah we're talking about his death of how much it influenced them absolutely like preacher the title like it and the thing I would really love to bitch to about Seth Rogen not actually actually I thought first is was all right no no no no a world no you know moving on we need to throw good we didn't need him all the fact that this guy had a hit show on AMC it's kind of hit in black novel on everywhere preacher was one of those titles that every time in college when I had to write a defense of comics as literature in terms of religion preacher was the book also not believe how many musicians artists journalists novelist chose preacher to do the exact same thing like when he passed away the I'd say this Twitter burst fucking exploded uh-huh it's not that you did this one thing it's you did this thing then fluent so many people to do their own thing like using incredibly unique wonderful individual that had this vision that made everybody else follow their own vision I posted on Facebook with see Dylan you drew my imagination I mean like there are not just you it's so many other people I know I'm not denying that but for me like oh my god that that scene in preacher thanks to me giving it to you and listening I mean going like I don't want you guys to watch the show preacher which without having read okay that's not really my point here my point is that I gave you guys the comics so that you would be like on board with me like whether you want the show or not but to have like to know the source material 100% and how much should you guys love it that source material we're not talking about the show right now huh I said how fast it read it about a book every three days which is slower than I did still slower actually than I did doesn't really go book a day and that's based on the original ten volume versus six volume I'd really like to see a TV show based on the pro like a mini series like five episodes based on the pro I would love that I think we're jumping to the writer from what's going on as but yes but yeah with Amanda Connor sorry good no no no no no no sorry no no I'm sorry we had a great time with it passed away yeah and frankly I feel like probably somewhere in his apartment there's like some journal with weird ramblings that could be turned into like probably several different amazing concepts but we'll probably never see it but thank you thank you so much for future thank you well thank you for that thank you for welcome back Frank welcome for all your time on back and I'll take a look back at her welcome back Frank in terms of the Marvel Mac stuff thank you thank you for that it influenced the movie Punisher or channel or some more some thank you or to which was another pun sure that'll be dirty laundry shut up haha thank you for that thank you for you're the one who illustrated the the the Punisher Deadpool crossover that you and I reference constantly would like I know this because I don't know this I know this is no that was how you fell in love Deadpool Deadpool yeah I know this because I've heard there's absolutely the Deadpool Punisher crossover it's like 44 45 or whatever that was thank you for that however like we know we have to sign off the other notes I'm saying well said you don't say the half the week this week no we can do that whole out of the week Google thanks Google that's fucking horrible no no no we have new we didn't saw social contract you're walking the middle of the sidewalk walk to one side of the other especially for somebody behind you also if you're writing in the sidewalk how about you go fuck yourself and write in the street and if you're running on the sidewalk please don't get sucked into the upside down no just get sucked into the upside down if you like this check out some of our other shows like D20 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