*18.1 Makkos Daf 12 A (Top line)*

*18.1 Makkos Daf 12 A (Top line)**Summary*_We have reproduced the last summary in full since today’s learning is a direct follow up_*If the _kohen gadol_ is disqualified from _kehunah_* _[he was found to be a challal. If he was found to be a Yisroel there is no question that it is considered as if there was no kohen gadol at all]:_ It is a dispute between *Rabbi Ami* and *Rabbi Yitzchok Nafcha.* According to one; it’s like *the kehuna died* and the murderers go free. According to the other, *the kehuna is cancelled* and it is considered as if there was no _kohen gadol_ at all.*Question: Is this dispute the same* as that of Rabbi Eliezer and Rabbi Yehoshua?*Mishna:* If a _kohen gadol_ was bringing _korbanos_ and *he was discovered to be a _challal:_ Rabbi Eliezer: All his previous _korbanos_ are disqualified. Rabbi Yehoshua: They’re kosher.*It seems that the amora who posits that *the _kehuna_ died is following Rabbi Yehoshua* and the amora who posits that *the _kehuna_ is cancelled is following Rabbi Eliezer.**Answer: The disputes are not necessarily correlated.* While Rabbi Eliezer certainly is of the opinion that the _kehuna_ is cancelled, *both Rabbi Ami and Rabbi Yitzchok Nafcha can explain Rabbi Yehoshua’s position* in a way that matches up with their own.*Rabbi Yehoshua agrees* even with the position that ‘the _kehuna_ is cancelled’. He only says that *_korbanos_ brought by a _challal_ will not be disqualified* because of the _possuk_ regarding _poeil yadav_ [the _korbanos_ he brings] in which he *darshens* *the word _cheilo_ to include _challalim._*_The Torah states that a murderer must be taken to be executed from near the mizbeach (from doing the avodah). However the gemara in Yuma teaches that while a kohen is actually on the mizbeach, he is not taken to be killed.__Before his death, Dovid Hamelech commanded Shlomo to execute Yoav ben Tzeruya. Yoav fled into the ‘tent of Hashem’ and grabbed onto the corners of the mizbeach. But Shlomo had him executed anyway._*Rav Yehuda amar Rav:* Yoav made *two errors* at that time.*1.Only standing on the mizbeach* is protection against being executed, not holding its corners.*2.The _mizbeach_ protects only when it is in its proper place,* but this tent of Hashem in Yerushalayim _(Rashi emends the text of the gemara so it doesn’t read Shiloh)_ had the status of a _bamah._*Abayye:* He made an *additional error.**The _mizbeach_* protects only _kohanim_ in the midst of _avodah,_ but Yoav was not a _kohen._ See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. This podcast has been graciously sponsored by JewishPodcasts.fm. There is much overhead to maintain this service so please help us continue our goal of helping Jewish lecturers become podcasters and support us with a donation: https://thechesedfund.com/jewishpodcasts/donate