18 - Jake Duzsik (HEALTH) on Mental Health, OCD, Trent Reznor & The Apocalypse

Jake Duzsik of LA industrial band HEALTH explores his experiences with mental health, creativity and illness plus "DSMV," the song they named after The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders - a volume where all of us in the mental health club are included. We talk about how their desolate music may be connecting right now because of the bleak world we currently inhabit, what it's like to live with obsessive compulsive disorder, the evils of big tech and its psychological manipulation, working with Trent Reznor from Nine Inch Nails, what happens after addiction and lots more.