You are now listening to the UK and the world's favorite wrestling podcast, Archie and wrestling with your host Andy and Emma. That's on the podcast. Oh shit! Hello!
Do I go for a play? Whatever. I can do it. Whatever.
No, go on, I'm fizzing. You've got to do the intro though. No, erm, don't, erm, don't, don't wheel out. Oh, we won.
Because it'll pick you up to piss against the side of the blue. Yeah, I'm recording. Hello everyone, and welcome to another podcast. I can't remember when we last podcasted, Friday?
Yes, it's fucking me, it was yesterday. Oh shit, okay, well, we're back. We're back because we were bored and we thought, fuck it, let's have a look. Let's do another podcast.
We really enjoy ourselves. Erm, I'm feeling tired because Andy's wee-in. What else can I talk about? Erm, so it's been a really uneventful weekend for me, if you're interested.
Slapped a lot. Slapped a shit load, actually. And I don't know why. There must be something in the air getting cold.
Er, you know, watched Dynamite on Saturday night? This morning? No, this afternoon? Erm, yeah, erm, yeah, I enjoyed myself.
No, I'm showing. I enjoyed it. Did you enjoy Andy? Be back.
Come back and help me. Yeah, I'm struggling massively. I was nearly going to start talking about Strictly Come Dancing then. Well, you're missing that for this.
Yeah. What about you? Give me a shit this shit. No.
Well, I was going to say neither do any of the dancers, but what they fucking do, it's ends in week three. I know it's a long time. Give me strength. Yeah, it's a rum-paging Dynamite.
Yeah. It's awesome shows. Very good. I'm the buy-in.
Yeah. The correct, the weird buy-in, which is currently up to 800,000 views, which is quite cool. The re-watchability of it, I suppose is. I mean, if we're going to talk AW this week, we're going to be coming and coming and coming and coming.
That's the New Japan match. Into the Daxxite. I know, I know. It was so fucking good though.
It was literally everything I thought it would be. And Moxley, like, bless him, right? I know he's living his best life at the moment, GCW champion, all that kind of just let him do that. Let him cut himself open on another basis.
I respect him for wanting to do the New Japan thing, but Brian Danielson is the one who fits. And that was fucking amazing. And I'm sure, you know, he understands, but Moxley isn't on the fucking in the same stratosphere as a Brian Danielson. And it was such a fantastic match.
It was so great. It was funny. You know, that loads of like whole cup spots, which were just, I always laugh. I can never, I'm not going to a question I've got for you later, actually.
But I don't, when they do those kind of whole cup no cell spots, I've rarely go like pop, I'm just laughing. Yeah. I'm like, hey, yeah, come on. I don't know that kind of stuff.
Oh God, it was so good. It totally wins the weekend. I mean, there was a couple of good matches. Like, I really enjoyed, obviously, the super click against Dark Order.
That was ridiculous. That was really fun. So much fun. They're the spot with Cole getting kissed off for Reynolds and Silver.
I mean, Cole's the best. I will fight a man. Any of you fucking try and tell me otherwise, Jog, because he's the fucking best. He's toppy.
It's the AW champion within the year. I'm going to be annoyed. That's obviously joking with that. Can I get on to that again?
Well, that's the issue they've got now. They're fucking so, they're so top loaded. You know, when they're letting people out, buddy Murphy jogs a new Japan, you know, it's a tough deal. When you're getting all these main eventers, all these former champions and all this shit, it's a bottleneck.
True, yeah. A bottleneck only some of them can go through. Oh, yeah. Oh, God.
Suzuki, Brian. Just fucking amazing. I totally would have swapped if it was me. But again, it doesn't really matter if you're talking about ratings and stuff.
I would have swapped their punk. I just can't remember his fucking name, that's ideal. I'd have swapped that with the Brian Suzuki match. Because again, punk's having to go out and follow that.
I know. It's like, follow that bitch. I did enjoy that. It was a great, it was a good match.
And you know, whether he's lost a step or two, if you believe some high profile people, he's still better than you amates. I did enjoy the response to that, actually. Yes, I retweeted it. So obviously Roman Reigns had done an interview where he said, what was his word in?
He said he lost stuff, he said AW fans, a baby in company. Which I think is, you know, because obviously some of it, some of what he said is stupid, I just proper stupid. And some of it was golden. But I thought it was, sorry, I completely Dave Meltzer hijacked that.
What were you doing? No, I was, I liked punk's response to it. Yeah, so it was punk's response. Look, Roman can talk about me all he wants.
He's a WWE bat to puppet with his head so far up Vince McMahon's ass that he can probably see the Saudi crown prince up there. I run Pro Wrestling. Shainty can keep his name out of it. Shainty can keep my name out of his mouth.
I preferred Leakey anyway. Funnish. Shinyty, that's a lot of me, I've all been calling. Shinyty.
But what I did think I found funny as well was the fact that he said he would run through AW's like a room in a real fight. And Junior DeSantis responded, which is, yeah, there's nothing like something, again, he started thinking we talked about last time with people just like fucking, you know, face palming. That's the unfortunate thing with Roman. He'll get the WWE fans like Jade up and happening, like, kind of stuff.
But he is just embarrassing himself. And he's being told to embarrass himself, which is even funny, whereas all the AW responses are all off the cuff. Yeah, it's kind of like, because they won't, it's like we were saying last week about how do we do we keep some of the dignified silence on it? Well, they're throwing Roman reads up.
I know, yeah. It's always throwing him to the wall. It's like, we're not going to say anything. So Vince isn't going to respond, but Roman is going to be the person who does all the trash talking for us.
I know, just pathetic. But yeah, it's funny because, like, I think, at least I've just desired effect because he's wound a lot of people up and I like, kind of stuff. And that's what he's trying to do, because that's what WWE do, they try and wind people up, as we said on the last show. And I'll leave it there because I can't be asked talking about these fucking again.
But yeah, they were very good responses. Yes. And I think with the whole, like, baby thing. So if you, I mean, I've not read the interview, I've just seen, you know, I've not listened to it.
I've just seen the snapshot. So maybe completely. I'm just going to fiddle with Mike a second. Oh, yeah.
Only cars. We're a bit quiet. Yeah, it's a bit better. I think I might need to turn this.
Oh, I don't know what this is going to sound like, guys. But I'm just turning the game on. So not that game. Yeah, because I was funny about with the stand before.
And I'm just looking at the sound waves. And they are. So I'll have to turn off the mix. Do you want to stop just for these guys?
It'll be a mere momento. And just have a quick listen to that. If you're out, if you're not. No, I'm happy now.
The sound waves up there. But I'm apologizing as if it was super quiet at the start. And now we're just going incredibly. And you've whacked up the volume.
And now it's gone really loud. You've not missed anything. So yeah, this whole baby thing. Like I don't quite know the context of what he means by it, because I've not listened to it.
And I've not seen anybody talk about it really. But the only thing that I kind of got from, again, I might be completely off base. But is that AW fans are overly protective of AW? Would you agree with me?
What's that? What's what baby it means? It's tough because from the outside, he probably does look like baby him. Because you've got what you've got to think of.
And this is totally like giving Roman Reigns the most credit I can do. You know what I feel about Roman Reigns, but he is doing the best work of his life. But bless him. He doesn't know what a crowd looks like that are enjoying the show.
He doesn't have a clue. He doesn't have a clue. That guy's never been in front of a crowd. That's enjoyed what he's done.
And now that he's getting booed properly, I think, maybe he's getting shared now. Who the fuck knows? He's always had this mixed 50-50 reaction where he comes out and he does his three moves and he goes to the back and carries on. So bless him.
He doesn't know what a crowd that really enjoy what's going on. Because if you watched Dynamite, the Saturday night Dynamite, that crowd was ridiculous. It was better than Friday. It was in the same fucking arena.
Do you know what? I get the impression of though. And this is probably state in the obvious. But for Roman Reigns in the way that he kind of came up through developmental very, very, very, very quickly, was again, really quickly identified when he was in the shield and put in that top spot.
I don't think for him, it's ever been about wrestling. It's been nothing to do with wrestling because he was plucked because of how he looked and the size of him. And his wrestling ability isn't either here or there. And I don't know his background, so I'm going to take a massive assumption here, not an indie wrestler.
OK, so not an indie wrestler. So therefore, it's someone who has never known those wild crowds at all, even coming over to the UK or in WrestleMania, getting booed. So you can understand people like Brian Danielson and all those guys who were like, oh, I remember the indies. I remember I'm more because they were, I kind of want to get that scrappy, where I have proper matches.
And I really like the one about where we're reined in. And do you know what I mean though? And it's like, is he, do you know what I mean? Do you know what I mean though?
Bit the archery just then. But I don't think it's for Roman Reigns, he's never ever ever had it to miss it. So for him, I don't think he care. I just don't think it's part of the whole like MO of what he does, is it?
I also don't believe that he didn't, wasn't reading off of his paper for that entire time. So, you know, the guy, unfortunately for him, he's not in a situation where he's allowed to say what he wants. Because if he was, he would never have said suffering Suckatash on live TV. So at the end of the day, I can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth.
Therefore, it doesn't affect the majority of people anymore. Because he's just talking to you much now. Like a couple of months ago, I think he said something and I was like, who the fuck is this guy? And then now it's like, oh, is he's spouting off again?
OK, oh, like tribal chief, whatever mate. But yeah, it is that funny. All the things that they are getting him to say, the irony of them is like painful. You know, he's talking about fans, baby and a crowd, you know, a crowd, baby and wrestlers.
That's what enjoyment looks like. It's talking about like CM Paul's lost his step when he's five steps ahead of you still. It's all stuff where I feel like they're damaging him, not to the WWE fans, because like we say, they're not wrestling fans, but like to the outside world. And so, you know, because I've not seen anybody like talk about it positively.
I've not seen anybody, you know, apart from Brian, who's like fucking gimmick with it, you know, and gimmicking back and forth to each other. You know, what I actually think, so you know, is that if you actually think that, I'm fair enough. I've not seen anybody comment on Roman Reigns's outburst in a positive light in a super, you know, one way or the other. You know, I've seen that, but the ones in the middle, the ones who he respects just like, God, they are fucking this guy over again and again and again.
It's the top guys are still fucking him. They're still trying to get him to like talk shit about it. There's so much stuff he could talk shit about with AW. And it brought up the thing that they get into say is the two things that, you know, maybe that's a strategy, because it's one of why people, but to the people who won't get wound up by it and we'll just see it as stupid.
It's our poor imp, our guy. He's just been made to just talk shit about something he has to literally say. It's all just sounding like something to do with him. But yeah, I did think it was, I've went junior to San Jose, name the hotel room.
Of course I got, okay, fair enough, which is totally true. Yeah, because you ain't fucking with that guy. Hey, you apparently can, but no one else can. Should we go with that?
Yeah, I might just have a little break. I might just listen back and just make sure it sounds okay. So we'll have a good comeback. We'll go straight in.
Absolutely, let's do it. Hello everyone and welcome once again to RTM Wrestling's episode 1.8.2, if you can believe it. How you all doing? Hope you're safe from one day, two days ago, who knows?
But we're here again and reason being, why the fuck not? When you've got work to do, what's the best way of avoiding it by doing something else? So yeah, hope you well. We are at RTM Wrestling.
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So if you wanna join us on there, the DMs are always open. I think I can't confirm that though, because I've never actually switched them on or off. So what's the standard? Is it the open in the standard?
I think they're open. I think they're open. Yeah, well we'll add them. So yeah, yeah, must just by default they're open.
Hope you well. Hope you got a good weekend at wrestling. There's been a lot of shit on, a lot of things to talk about and like we're doing now, we're not gonna talk about any of it. So if you enjoyed SmackDown, good for you.
Last year, I hope you wish you all the best. And obviously we had Ron Page and Dynamite back to back, which was very, very, very, very, very good. Enjoyed myself greatly. There is, last night was another Neutrapan strong, which if you said anything like last week's, would be fantastic but I don't know what it's like yet.
But within that, it's been a pretty wrestling pact weekend done it really. Pass was by but you know. Well the Dynamite was two and a half hours long. Oh shit.
In a good way. Did you feel that? I thought it was postponed. I really felt it was long, but I wasn't not enjoying myself and I wasn't bored.
I was just like, it was so many false finishes where I felt that was the main, because I didn't know the card at all. So I thought it finished about three times. We've done it right. We've done it right.
So it's like, wow. Yeah, it was those two. Oh, it's great. Well, I'm not a fish fella.
Yep. Is it because he doesn't have a guy playing the guitar next to him? Yeah, I'm sorry, Kyle O'Reilly, but like I'm, that's the first point. So I like, I'm sure he's great.
I just hated that egg-a-tash stick. What you were supposed to do, because it was supposed to be the sufforable. So yeah, and he was, and he worked with me, because I just got fucking looking. You like a bit of fish then?
Sounds a bit, really bad. No, I didn't mean it like that. It would be an odd one for you to do. No, I'm so sure I really fancy that Bobby fish.
So after all the other people like. No, you just, I don't know what just sounded a bit. You want a bit of fish? Oh, shit.
Okay. Feel lessy, okay. Yeah, no, I like him. Yeah, he's good for us.
Yeah, he's a great match for Moriarty on the night before. Pulling double duty over the weekend. How are you doing? All right.
Yeah, you good. Yeah, of course. How are you? Yeah, I've got a lot of words to do, so I thought it was to the mic up.
So always awake. The mighty stopport county, drawn against Bolton Wanderers in the first round of the FA Cup. Fuck. I might want to make an effort to go because I'm fucking there.
I'm fucking there at that. What's it even called anymore? It's like the Reebok, there's the micron. It's called Bolton University Stadium.
No, I might be going, go on University of New York. It'll always be the Reebok to me. Yeah, but ironically, I think the Reebok, which you'll be forever known in this house, is closer to us than Edge of the Parkers. I'm just saying.
I'm just saying. Yeah, so it'd be a bit of a, I think it'd be a bit shit to not. Yeah. Because if you go to a county away game at the moment, that isn't rexamour not scouting, you're probably holding onto a post, trying to try to stay in the ground while the wind's fucking trembling.
That's being harsh. It's quite a lot of nice grounding nationally. Yeah, also big news on the weekend, really. Yeah.
Absolutely. Should we get going now? Let's do it. We'll start off this week.
We've got a question from at Carbon underscore Robert, who's bought, can a wrestler still be wrestle of the year, even if people don't like the character? And he's given an example of Alexa Bliss, because obviously people are not enjoying the character side of it, but she apparently, according to him, is smashing it at the moment. See, do you want me to go first? You want me to go first?
He depends on the metric. So the problem I have with wrestler of the year polls. Now polls are not a fine, because you're asking fans. And if all the fans say Roman Reigns is the wrestler of the year, then fair enough.
The problem I have with something like this is when you look at things like the PWI illustrator to whatever it is, top 500. It's the gimmick lists. Most of these lists are gimmick lists. You know, if you've got Kenny Omega, who's like the top wrestler of the year, everybody will, and you're mocks of the year before, I think it was rolling to the end for that or whatever, you think, oh yeah, OK.
Sounds about right. Roman Reigns is second. You know, he wouldn't be in my top 500, but I'm not the one making up. So whatever.
So the problem with those kind of lists is the, which I didn't realize that they do that, is the rate it on titles. Yeah, we talked about it in a couple of shows. Yeah, so like what titles? So obviously, Kenny Omega was the best wrestler in the world that year because he had every bell other than outside of WWE.
Reigns is out the belt for fucking tons. So he's the number two. So those lists are super like gimmick lists, because I, if anybody said to me, OK, name your top 10 wrestlers of the year. I asked the question, if anybody came back to me with Roman Reigns being in the top 10, I would want to pick the brain because what the fuck?
The guy can't wrestle. So therefore, he's not, he shouldn't be in the top 10. Me personally, and hopefully this kind of answers your question, Ron, it's got to be on wrestling ability. It's got to be of standard of matches.
It can't be for a character because, you know, you can have somebody like a great character wrestler, like somebody like a Bray Wyatt, or, you know, the undertaker, you know, in previous, obviously, a long, long time ago. You can have those great character wrestlers, but they shouldn't be in the conversation for wrestler of the year because it's wrestler of the year. Now, that's my personal opinion on it. So if you're going to say to me, you know, who's the better wrestler, Roman Reigns or Kota Voushi, they're in a conversation to be hard.
There's no question who's the better wrestler is, and who's the most exciting to watch. But obviously, people have different metrics and they have different reasons behind it. So, you know, like yourself, if you think it's a bliss, you know, is either the best wrestler or best female wrestler of the year, the character for me shouldn't come into it. Because the character's got nothing to do with it.
It's the in-ring product for me. But it's whether or not you are basing it on that. You know, if you said your best wrestler of the year, and it's about everything, so it's about who's the most entertaining the funniest, or also having great matches, and what he's entertaining the same time, so not necessarily the person who's like, top of the game, the WWE Champion or the AEW Champion. You know, if you're talking about something like Danhausen, for example, who I think is a very good technical wrestler.
But then you see videos of him at house shows putting teeth down people's throats and dancing on bars to the tequila song. You know, is that a good professional wrestler? Or is he just been entertaining? So it's probably a lot more layered than I actually first thought.
I think it's probably got this like 10 minutes ago. But I don't think character should come into it. I think it should, who's the best wrestler? Yeah, the metrics thing is like key in it, because it's like, what are you measuring?
And sometimes it's not 100% clear. At least with that, you know, like top whatever, they are going on titles. So you know what, the measuring there. And it's like- You know, when you get an indie woman, like I can't remember her name, but I think it was- There's one load of titles.
Yeah, it was just, I think it's just one. It was like an indie promotion that has like an average 100 people who go watch every week. She's had the winning title for like 300 days. She's in the top 30.
It's just like, you know. Right, well my thoughts on it are that if you were to do the best wrestler of the year, and it was purely on wrestling ability, it would be the same list every single year because the top wrestlers don't change. So Kenny Omega would always be in your top three probably. And the list will be exactly the same because you don't get that many outstanding wrestlers entering the field.
So I always interpret them as who's out of best year in terms of who's out of best year, in terms of, you know, like storylines, TV time, you know, for talking about the companies that are on TV. You know, the title run, maybe contender for a title, but it's done some at cool. So for example, you know, like the year that Jericho and Kevin Owens did the best friends think, I probably put those guys in the top 10 because they created a really compelling story out of fuck-all essentially. And it was the most CTV for us for like fucking ages.
And it was like a long running, long-ish running story, but they managed to do. And the same goes for a few people. Like they've had a great year. So they become wrestler of the year.
And I think that's how, because it's the same with like reigns. Reigns would be, you know, over the last 18 months, he's got to be up there if you're looking at how popular he is with his, you know, like with the WWE fans, what he's doing, how it's changed. And we said that, I think like last year when it first died, it's like you got to put him up there. I'm sure we even did a thing of like, who would be, and I remember Reigns being in the picture of like, oh, who would be like, you're, I don't think it was wrestler of the year, but I don't know if we did some sort of like fake award type thing, I don't know, we did sort of him.
So that's how I interpret that sort of thing. Yeah, and I think I'm totally with you with that. And it's like down to wrestling, sorry, don't come down to wrestling ability, because I was saying that's unchangeable. So you would have the same people every single year, it would be the best wrestlers, because technical ability, it's very unwavering on changing every single year.
You might get the odd new person who like comes in and he's like, oh wow, they're an amazing wrestler and they get in the top 10. Well, it would be kind of boring. So I suppose the bigger picture and to make these lists worth reporting on, they have to do it differently. And the title thing, I'm not down with that.
I think it's shit, because it's pretend. So it's not all fantastic they are as to why they've, you know, obviously they've got fans, so you can look at it in like the way, or they'll put the belt on that person for a reason, because they're a fan favorite. So they must be very well looked upon by their company. So that would suggest that they're a great wrestler for their company, or else they wouldn't have belt.
But there's a lot more shit that comes into it. There's people who don't hold titles, who have like, you know, I know Darby Allen's after titles, but like, you know, there's people like him who's had an outstanding year again, where I'd be like, well, he's got to be in the picture for talking for putting his tent together. You've got to put him in there. But for no real reason over that, what, you know, like, how, like, what he's done and getting himself over and jungle boy, same sort of him, you know, from nothing to this.
So because wrestling's so subjective, I don't think you can ever have a definitive list, unless you just did one list every 10 years, best technical wrestling person. And that's, that's even that is open for interpretation to some people, but it's hard to deny people like, you might hate Kenny Omega, but it's really hard to deny his wrestling ability. Same with the young watch, you might fucking, might not stand him, but they're like, Lucha Bros, like you can't deny it. It's just a fact, they're quite clearly the better.
There'll be people in New Japan who are fantastic, and it can't be argued. You know, you might argue position in, but it's like the top 10 technical wrestlers in the world. I think most people are probably in agreement with whoever came out on top of them. Whereas the other ones, the other ones are a bit more interesting, because coming up with the top 10, or top 100 of best technical wrestlers, it's not an exciting or divisive list to put together.
Where when you start incorporating, you know, like say for Lexa Bliss, came out at number one, because she'd had such a great year into the TV time storyline. It would get so much more traction on social media, so many more conversations. And here's the top 10 technical wrestlers Kenny Omega's number one again. So it's done for a reason, and it is done to divide people.
And that's why it's measured on lots of different things because it's all the put into, like, it's got his pia, so it's not a good thing. Yeah, and the thing we like, yeah, go for it. So the thing we like Rob's question is, is if they don't like the character, you know, Omega's supposed to be a heel, and he's number one in that particular thing. The thing for me that I like about what you kind of came up with then is, you know, who's kind of had the best year.
So it's not who's the best wrestler, it's who's had the best year. And, you know, Omega last year, I think he was, I can't remember his position, but obviously Moxley took it over him because he was the AW champion. I think those sorts of things are fair enough, you know, because if Omega kind of, you know, and we've got this later talking about the hangman, Omega thing, you know, if he loses the belt to hangman, and doesn't have it for a year, and he doesn't have any belts for the year, then he's not the number one wrestler. But he's where you draw the line between, you know, what in that situation is, because I think if, if, Danielson, because again, you know, I don't want to do any spoilers if anybody's looked at those, not looks at the, you know, the, the leak, the thick of it style leak from Tony Khan.
Is it looks like it's probably going to be, Ryan Danielson who's going to challenge after hangman page, which we'll get into what I think is going to happen because of that in a sec after the other thing I've got. But yeah, who's at the best year has got to figure in on it? And that's probably what the top 10 is in those kind of things is like, who's at the best year? But I'm really probably blinker than biased towards like, WWE wrestlers getting in it.
Because like, technical ability wise should be in it, probably, but they're not allowed to show that they should be getting in it. So for me, it's somebody like Roman Reigns, because he's had a better year in the public light, and therefore it'll give more PR to have Roman Reigns be higher than Shingo is a joke. The Shingo's putting on clinics. Like the last like, you know, massive would be iron with the G1.
But the match you have in Tanahashi when like the story was Old Man Tanahashi and he's not, he's not got the pace to go anymore. And he was like fucking 40 minutes. And it was a clinic. And I was out on his seat twice, which very rarely happens with wrestling.
Yeah. When I'm like into it to the point of like, fuck, you know, this is me. And he said a really interesting thing on the observer thing about psychology. It's like the psychology of wrestling is to make fans suspend the disbelief.
So if you ever get into a match where you're suspending the disbelief, it's because the psychology of the match is worked really well. Whereas if you don't, you just don't think it's a technically good match. Because like, you know, Suzuki and Bryan Danielson was a fantastic match. But at any point did I think that Suzuki was going to win it?
No, I always thought Bryan Danielson was going to win it. So that didn't do enough to suspend my disbelief where I thought Suzuki was going to win. Still a technical masterpiece. But I wasn't into it as much as I was.
I think that the Shingo Tanahashi match from, I can't even remember the show, but it was the, I think it was the pay-per-view before the start of the G1. But I can't remember, it was like a Tokyo Dome Grand Slam type deal. That's been the match that I've been the most into. And I was sat on my own watching that.
Like we weren't together watching it. I was just sat on my own watching it. You fucking tell me that Roman Reigns is at a better year than Shingo Takagi, than you're fucking out of your mind. Like I'm not accepting it.
So that's why I think these lists a lot of the times I give it a list, the bullshit list. 100% of I give it a list. And there'll be people that throw people in there to get a bit of conversation going and all that. You know what I think would be quite fun for us to do is to, you know, maybe, you know, do it a W1 or a mixed one or whatever.
If it's good to do like a, on Twitter, like polls, like a tournament bracket and then for the end of the year. Like who's the best year? Who do you think had the best year? Who's the best year is perfect.
Who's the best year? And we'll choose like a load of people and then we'll have like a tournament bracket and we'll narrow it down, narrow it down until we get to the final two. And then we'll have like a definitive crown them, you know, at the end of the year. Or we'll do it some best year.
Cause, and again, you know, we could do, well, I'm sure we could come up with even WWE people. Cause we know who, who we've, who's, but like really, we know who's been making the headlines in WWE this year. Cause the people that you hear about constantly. So it is like Reigns, Becky Lynch coming back, Charlotte Flair, still frigging throwing loads of shit at her.
Bailey can't be an itch to now. You know, like it's the people who actually were heard about this year. Like the big ones who got hang on page and, you know, Samine. What about Braun Breaker?
Braun Breaker, I don't know. Will you make that list? I don't think so. I don't think so.
But it would be interesting. Obviously it's a little bit contentious because you have to set your bracket. So it's a bit too important. Yeah.
So like in round one, if it's like Omega against Danielson, you know, if you picked out of a heart, which is the only fair way of doing it, you could have a big list of people on one side. And then, you know, like fucking wheeler you are against like, you know, not wheeler you against what you don't mean. You know, like women and men. Yeah, it makes more in, I'd say.
But like, what'd you say? Yeah, it makes more in because, you know, in this like pro wrestling illustrated top 500. And I did, you know, cause it is such a gimmick list. I didn't look at it.
I didn't look at where everybody was placed. But where was Brit Baker in that list? If she ate in the top 10, then that's a shit list. Yeah, exactly.
You know, Brit Baker, no one's out of it. She had the lights out that she's been a champion. She's defended against everybody. She gets the biggest crowd reaction arguably when she comes out.
You know, name me something. I mean, if you were saying about just purely the women, it's not a competition, Brit Baker wins. Because yes, I've not seen, you know, the Becky Lynch stuff. I think Becky Lynch is second, but a quite comfortable second.
Cause she hasn't, you know, she tried to do a heel thing. And her, you know, people try to fucking tell us that Becky Lynch's pop it was summer slam was bigger than CM Punk's like, what planet are you fucking living on? It's not. Like you're having a laugh.
Like it was a spattering of applause at best. Well, here's one for you then. How's about for one of the shows we do? We write out every wrestler, maybe tweet out and say, who do you think's at the best year?
Because we should top five. We write out every single one and we do a show where we have an FA Cup style draw of who goes against who? I like it, yeah. Well, where we get a little, like two point, oh, we'll just get a salad spinner and just mix them all together.
And then we do a draw and it could be something fucking not, it could be like, I'm actually in Becky Lynch and the, do you know what I mean? But that's the fairest way to do it. It's the fairest way to do it. But you know, I'm going to get annoyed, I think.
Yeah, we might get annoyed, but it's fine. Because we then can do our own separate thing where we talk about how we would have chosen the bracket. So for us, where we would have got to with those options. Yeah.
And we can talk about how to choose ourselves. Yeah, just do a top four each. Like here's your top four, here's our top four. Yeah.
It'd be really fun if it would be fun. Yeah, I think that'd be fun. Can I do a draw? Yeah.
And we'll take it turns, obviously. We'll do it like the FA Cup draw. It's what I mean. Well, you've got like, obviously we probably won't have to get into character too much for this.
But you've got two Dweeb's like, it's still there drawing out the names out of like number 56. Shingo Takagi. Well, thanks. Number 18.
Sammy's A. And I'll be wise, it'd be sappy. She was fucking buzzing money when you're the ones who draw the number. We can take you turns.
And I'll do what we could do is that if you want to draw the number, I can have stats for each one. I'll actually use three losses too. You know, it might take a lot of time now. But yeah, I think we've sprouted there.
Just from your questions. We've come on. I love that. A segment.
Yeah, that's a great thing. Do it like December 1st running through to maybe the 31st. Are we going to take the microphone on? Yes.
Yes. We need to do a show from Florida. Yeah, we're going to Florida for Christmas, guys. Liding with Passakovites offs that we have to take three days.
We will. Fingers crossed. Yeah. Going to Florida, babies.
I've not seen anyone for about two years. Yeah, that'll be fucking cool. Yep. Cape Canaveral.
Yep, hopefully we can get down to Cape Canaveral. Universal, Disney. Disney Universal. All that shit.
Even if they don't want to. And all them sweet, sweet, sweet enumbers back in my body. I just felt my heart just like seized up just thinking about it. Do you know, I need to just as a side note.
It was doing the rounds on social media this week. It's not really related. So I do apologise. That's a tangent.
That's Chris's question. Go off on a tangent. There's a lead. Did you see this part?
It's a lead to Bakerie. No. It's funny. I can't remember the name of them, but you can find the two- Bakerie in leads.
In leads, right. OK. And it went viral because someone had dropped them into Food Standards Agency or whatever for using illegal sprinkles on their cakes and cookies. Because the imported their sprinkles from the US.
Sorry, I've loads of enumbers in it. Yeah, they are two band-y numbers in. And they're like Facebook messages was so funny about it. Oh, that's so grim.
I know, but they were like, well, fuck this. We're not using shit British sprinkles. Yeah, I've just got to open some of these on the tweet. Their response.
Just a quick answer. I can't talk to let you know what we're close to more for the following reasons. Staff training. Need to get over important shit done.
Everybody's fucking knuck it. This weekend has been utterly sensational. We've had customer visits from countless cities sold fucktons of Bruce, whatever that is. What's cake?
It's a cake. In various forms. Not to mention the lovely visit from Trading Standards on Friday over somebody reported us for what are apparently illegal sprinkles. More on that one next week.
Hope you failed, GB. Get bait. It's the call. Yeah, get bait.
That's it. I'm poor. The sprinkles are important from the USA making ten clearance that are not allowed over here. They're being tested and we'll find out next week.
I realize how insane this is. Unfortunately, I'm only prepared to use them and no wonders. No, no others. If I can't use them, I won't use any.
I will be on sprinkle strike and won't budge for no man. Anyone who's into sprinkles will know what I'm about. Sprinkles you can get in this country are totally shit. They look wank.
They bake wank. Birthday Bruce will never be the same again. I've generally lost sleep over this. Not to mention the raspberry glaze donut cookie.
Don't even get me fucking started. That's the one thing though. If this doesn't result in a new t-shirt slogan, I'm hanging up my fucking hat. What?
What is this? It's like Baker. I think it's a woman who's written a book. It might be.
I think it's like a couple who run it. I don't know, but God, it's so funny. Whoever's reported us the trading standards, Dan, question Matt. All I have to say is dear Lord, what a sad little life Jane.
My daughter, who is now seven months, has to live with the fact that daddy can't take her to Disneyland because a man can't sell any fucking cookies. What a fucking large. Maybe they want to go. I mean, they look ridiculous.
We've seen the pictures of them. Oh my god, they look so tasty. I know. Maybe your trips are leads in order.
Who's reported them? People have so much time on their hands, don't they? Fucking swats. No, I'll perfect that.
Absolutely. But hence why, going to the US, we get to have. We get to eat like we're in the 1990s again. Yeah, food tastes like something.
Yeah, because it's got so much bad shit in it. It's fucking delicious. If you have them at Donald's burger over there, it tastes like swats. Swell's.
Yeah, it tastes like a fucking cheeseburger. That's what it tastes like. It's so fucking delicious. It's fucking all about famous burger.
When you come back over it, everything tastes well. I'm just for sure. I'm just trying. I'm just trying to show how much shit is in there food.
I'm just trying to tell you what it is. But it is. The food is absolutely delicious. It is so tasty.
And everything, I know you're allergic to peanut somebody, but I love anything peanut related. Peanut butter is in all their chocolate bars. Oh, it's heaven. Heaven.
Heaven. I'm going to film you boots while I'm over there. Absolutely. That's why we're on a hunger strike from now.
Absolutely. Absolutely. OK, so I've come up with a few points. There's one if we, because we're only going to do an hour, but we're already like 40 minutes in.
But there's one thing at the end, which might leave to the next show, but we'll see. We'll see how we're going. So first point, undisputed hero in AW. So cold has done a little interview.
Like, you know, he's been doing quite a lot. Same sort of stuff that he says every time. You know, they're good friends. They should do what's best for them.
Same thing that you say with Kevin Owens. But obviously not seeing it, but they're apparently mistreating Kylo Riley now with the guitar guy. Roderick's the guy. That's just for me, guys.
But he's putting over a bra on breaker. And whoever the fuck else that is having to put over. Roderick's wrong. They're not really doing anything with him.
And apparently the contracts are all a bit of a similar time. So Cole's got to come out of this super click at some time if he's going to be AW well champion within a year, which is what I think what I hope will happen. I just think he's the fucking best. Do you think an undisputed hero reunion in AW is a good thing or a bad thing?
I think it's a really good thing personally. And I was never that big a fan of undisputed era, as you know. Like I just, I like Cole. What Cole was just a star when they added Roderick's struggles, I really.
But it worked. And having watched him live when we went to the Albert Hall show and the reception they got, and going back to what you're saying about how stacked AW is at the top, I do think that signings like Roderick's strong, like Kylo Riley are quite valuable signings. Because I know it sounds a bit harsh to say they're probably not going to be the top guys. Because they could be.
And the cool thing, I suppose, about signing with AW is that you can go to different places and be the guy, or you could go in and do great matches and all that shit. I do think that those kind of, I would call it middle level. Because Cole is the star of that. And he's an undisputed leader star.
And it would be, I do think that they need more of those mid, because mid-card and AW is different to mid-card, into BWA, to me. Well, there is no mid-card, into BWA. It's main event or nothing. Yeah, true, true.
But I do think that they can afford to make those signings. They could have afforded someone like Murphy, to come in and be someone who works hard. And isn't that personally going, oh shit, what are they going to do with them? Because they have to have a title for them to be, they've got to have a title because they're so big, and they're so popular.
I don't know how this is going to work. And I'm sure a lot, as I've said before, I'm sure a lot of the people who are of that ilk, like, see, I'm punk. I'm sure punk's happy never to have a belt. And I think he probably might not.
I don't think he will, to be perfectly honest. But some of them are still fairly new. And like Andrade people, like Miro, they're not put out to pass just to just help you and tell him. Like, it's too much of a waste.
But I do think like those solid kind of like henchmen-esque that will still have fantastic singles matches on any of the show is ideal. And I would say, I would welcome it. I think it's a really good thing. And it gets coal away from the young box in Omega to create his own, to have his own thing.
Because I don't know about you, but when it comes to factions, I feel like you never have too many. Because they're marketing opportunities that it presents. You sell, you can sell more merch, because you've got all their individual merch, and their group merch together. You can do, you can appear on TV.
So you can have TV time on a weekly or fortnightly basis. And you don't have to be in a match when you're on the TV. So you face this out there. You can go on and do, you know, you can do singles match on night, dark or like that in the elevation and all that jazz.
So I don't know, I think they would fit really well to me. Do you agree? I do, yeah. I mean, part of me thinks like, you know, the whole like, having them all together, and it's very NXT, because it was obviously the NXT's biggest faction.
And having them all together, it's good, but it's like, okay, we're doing this again and all this kind of stuff. And I do want them to get away from, because I do feel like sometimes with the XWW, and I'm gonna lump the NXT people in with this as well, is the XWWA related talent. Is the trying to right the wrong with WWE. So you get Malachi Black coming in, he wasn't used for seven months.
So now we're having this endless rivalry with Cody, which again, he's in a position of, if he doesn't win next week, he could have Cody wins, which is pretty much 100% for me nailed on that Cody's gonna beat him, because of the way they're building it up. And the building Cody up, which I don't think is bad, per se, because I think Cody's still keeping and he's bleeding from the mouth from that promo. And he's got like- It's really got prone that way. Yeah, getting slapped in the face off Red Velvet and off of Kana Kala King as well.