182. The Most Damaging Espionage Case in History with Joe Navarro

Today Justin talks to retired Special Agent Joe Navarro. Joe spent 25 years with the Federal Bureau of Investigation, primarily working on counterintelligence investigations. He is also a founding member of the National Security Division Behavioral Analysis Program, which focused on the behavior of spies, terrorists, and criminals. During his career, Joe developed tremendous expertise in nonverbal communication and body language, and after retiring, went on to write the international bestseller, What Everybody Is Saying, which teaches anyone how to improve their own nonverbal communication skills and situational awareness. Since then, he's also written several other books on body language, interview techniques, and human psychology, among other subjects. He's here to discuss a case from his time with the FBI, on which he's also written a book. In 1988, an interview with a U.S. soldier named Rod Ramsay led Joe and his fellow agents deep into a case of Cold War espionage now known as the Conrad Spy Ring.Connect with Joe:jnforensics.comCheck out the book, Three Minutes to Doomsday, here.https://a.co/d/gqKDCZHConnect with Spycraft 101:Get Justin's latest book, Murder, Intrigue, and Conspiracy: Stories from the Cold War and Beyond, here.spycraft101.comIG: @spycraft101Shop: shop.spycraft101.comPatreon: Spycraft 101Find Justin's first book, Spyshots: Volume One, here.Check out Justin's second book, Covert Arms, here.Download the free eBook, The Clandestine Operative's Sidearm of Choice, here.Support the show Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.