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They hear zero second warning. Try to find the battle for the valley card. Oh. It's kind of fucking fine, maybe.
Why don't you ask? I don't know. We're still perfect. Shall I stop?
No, no, no, it's just... Not really. It's a battle for the valley this weekend. The Nikadas come over for it.
He's doing buddy Matthews, the former buddy Murphy, which is going to be a fucking great watch. It's not really well to book that, don't you think? I mean, yeah. I mean, the fact that...
So you think with this stuff and obviously there's a lot of rumours going on last night about a card that's turning up on Dynamite, which still don't know if it happened in Ox, not watched it, because of our sleep. I highly doubt it. I think we would have seen it on Twitter. But I know Akada's name was mentioned because the best friends have joined Chaos.
Yeah. So that's cool. So yeah, so you could have... I mean, really, he could have been on fucking full gear, but instead he's doing the new challenge show, which is totally what he should be doing.
But if Akada became available, you know, he would have moved heaven and earth to have him on that pay-per-view. Yeah. But you know, the whole thing with AW is odd and New Japan. It's felt like like JY impact.
It's like Suzuki's doing like a full like, you know, tour. So he's obviously was able to go on a kajima. It just all seems a bit odd. Like, like, New Japan don't really want to be in bed with him.
But I don't know what you're going to do. How are you? Got it there. Yeah, I'm not bad.
I'm very, very tired. I've got so much fucking work to do. It's just breaking the brain, but it's the same thing everywhere you should be used to it by now. I've not...
I didn't watch the anime. I turned it on last night thinking I'd be alright. And you'll fall asleep, I think, seven minutes into it. So into the...
Then you'll be right in Rocky Romero, which I wasn't really looking forward to, but still I didn't fall asleep. Yeah, I don't know. I'm alright. I don't feel great, but you know, it's what it is.
It's just one of them. It's just one of them. How are you doing? Oh, okay.
I'm going to go to the restaurant for a meeting today. It's been a whole day in Stoke-Con Trent. Lovely place. I'm not supposed to.
Do you know what? I'm supposed to. Do you know what? I'm supposed to.
Do you know what? Fuck off. No, honestly, Stoke-Con Trent train station, when you come out, the university buildings are all around you. Yeah, remember that.
It's because Stoke, funnily enough, here you go, everyone. Stoke-Con Trent, for those who don't know, everyone probably does know. Stoke-Con Trent train station is not in the centre of the... No, it's not.
It's miles away. We have to get into Stoke-Con and go to the event, didn't we? Yeah, but I thought that event was in the middle of nowhere, so I couldn't really get a perspective. Yeah, well, so let's get sexy.
Yeah, but you come out and the towns, usually, you expect the major train station comes out in the city centre and it just doesn't. It comes out in the student part of the city, up to Stoke-Con's city, of course it is. But it comes out in the student part and all that's there really is universities, a huge college, a couple of colleges I think, and not all else, but some businesses. But the university building stuff really lovely.
It feels like you're on campus when you come out the train station. I remember the train station, but I remember being outside of it. Yes, I was the same because I remember this platform and all that jazz. Yeah, I remember it being pretty well.
It was nice, you know. So we saw that representation being a shit-o though. Yeah, I don't really... I think we've been going to the town.
I think going to the city centre, so I mean, but then again, so I was like, you know, I'm sure people would say like, Bolton was a shit-o or Manchester is a shit-o. Well, no, Bolton was a shit-o. Well, yes. You know they get battered everywhere they go.
Everywhere they go. Everywhere they go. But I think that I have a soft spot for Bolton because where I used to go every weekend when I was a teenager because I wasn't allowed to go into town, but I was allowed to go into the big town. The shiny lights are Bolton on a Saturday.
I was spending money, 32p on the bus, each way. CD single and a plastic from Greg's buzzing. Sometimes I get myself a 99p burger from Donald's and I was really buzzing. Well, that's those are days.
Oh my God. The last decade was the 90s. As I was talking to you with Chris, the last decade was the 1990s. I like that I miss most of it.
Oh my... I went to school, started school. Listen, I know we're going to get on to wrestling. I started school in 89 and I left school in 2001.
So my entire school life was just a tour of the 1990s. Good. Good stuff. Everything.
From take that duffel bag to spice girls to whatever the fuck we were all listening to when we went into the millennium. Robbie Williams. I'm a really... Crap.
That fucking guy. What a piece of shit. Anyway, just a little side note from the reason why there wasn't a Sunday podcast. Oh, yes.
Is we were at the Boston Wanderers vs. Stop What Cauwe Game. It was amazing. It was so great.
Thanks everyone for coming to eat alone. Chris especially can look at the scores and stuff. Hopefully watch the highlights. We were in that absolute fucking madness in that way.
Yeah, it was amazing. Which was great. People were right on the side so we were right next to their fans. The back and forth was just brilliant.
It's exactly what I remembered it to be from away games. So that was great. Do you want to get going? Do you want anything else or do you want to maybe mention a Spice Girl?
Oh my God, yeah. My favourite speaking of the 90s. My favourite Spice Girl. Quite clearly got paid to attend the VW Live in Manchester last night.
Because that's what you've got to do to go to the VW show these days is get paid. Or have a buy one, get one free ticket. Burn. Yeah, so I woke up this morning and you don't feel like you've crossed over into another dimension.
I open up Twitter and Sami Zayn's like, oh, Mel B, call me a pussy. And then it was a quote to eat saying, that's because you are. What the fuck's happening? Like, where am I?
Where am I? Yeah, so Mel B went to the VW Live Manchester last night. But I enjoyed that. I'm VKM's dollar.
Of course, yeah. I'm judging up in a lovely hotel. Got to bring a family maybe. Or maybe not, just to bring yourselves.
We'll pay you five grand to whatever. Hella shops are you in, hella cops are you out. But they always do that. And I was saying this to you before.
Like, last time they were, well, maybe not the last time. I don't know, probably actually. The last time we know about it. Yeah.
You know, it was that whole like beef with Wayne Rooney and whoever the fuck. That was fucking years ago, babe. That was when we went to it. But they seem to do it with Manchester.
It's really weird. It's like, I do you know what I think it is. Manchester is a lot of quite famous people on tap in the area. People are willing to get paid to do something.
Yes. There's a lot going on in London. And the celebrities are doing better shit. Whereas if you're up north, there's not a whole lot of shit that someone will pay you to attend.
Like, good money and probably put you up in a hotel. Yeah. So, you know, you get a spy skill? You get a spy skill.
That's just the, the, the be on end of it. 30, 30 fuckers. Should we get going then? Hello everyone and welcome once again to RTM Wrestling episode 185.
Goddamn it. Hope you're all well. Hope you're all safe. My name's Andy.
I'm German. We're a wrestling podcast if you didn't know by now. After a hundred and eighty five episodes plus a further 300 that are on YouTube. I've never to probably see the light day ever again.
I hope you're all good. I hope you have an amazing week. And what the fuck have we got to talk about today? Well, there's a lot.
Well, there isn't a lot, but there's a lot of really fun stuff. One is this RTM cup. It's already getting out of hand, but in a good way. We've got full gear as well.
Welcome up this weekend. I'll be completely honest with you. Ladies and gentlemen, I learned that full gear was this weekend yesterday. I was like, holy shit, it's this weekend.
What? What's that a lot going on? Well, I do know what my brain can't think and I went ahead. So hence why we're doing a podcast just to try and give me a break from.
Oh, can I just interject a little bit there? Yes. Do you remember when you used to say, you know, I'm running a business, I'm stressed to fork and all that shit and like, try and keep it all to myself and all that crap. So I'm going to inflict it upon you.
Do you remember when you used to say what do you want to do this weekend? I'll be honest, I haven't thought any further than that. That's where my brain's been out for the last three years since I signed a business. It's like when it gets to Friday night, you know, you are so relieved that the week's over, but you haven't thought at all about you literally mind blank.
You know, when you're giving a little bit of time or there's something that, and you forget everything, all the shit that like when you add a bit more capacity, you'd spend weeks looking forward to and really excited about something there upon you and you're like, fuck, I used to have my brain used to prepare me for this shit. Now I've got no capacity whatsoever to even think beyond work. Yeah. And I'm not saying I'm not happy that you're with me in the dark ones at all, but I understand the feeling it sucks.
Yeah, it's fucking awful. Yeah, it's all full. Well, well, not on something wrong with sucking dicks. No, no, that's true.
It sucks for ginour because they're really awful. I don't know what I mean. You've got your pad anyway with the magic of it. I can get it.
Because I should really do, because they did the final one on the final. I bought it here. The third match will be over anytime soon. Oh, cool.
It's incredibly incredibly close. I need to put the next one kind of up. So, so, what's going on? So, Davie Allen won?
Yes? Yeah, I'm going to go through that. Sorry, I'm sorry, I'm just ready. Sorry, I'm ruining it.
So, I'll see him cut the start there. So, two marches, three marches down by the end of this podcast. So, match one, Davie Allen versus Becky Lynch. It was a landslide.
Davie Allen. So, cross Becky Lynch's name off. She's gone. It doesn't matter if you're having real life beef with Charlotte.
It doesn't matter if you're the man, you're out. It's over. That bitch. Second match.
A card versus a mat card owner. Come on now. What the fuck? Nick.
What the fuck was coming on here, right? Apparently, having won Deathmatch in your entire career and making a new internet championship. Just let this sink in this comment, guys. Making a new internet championship and having won Deathmatch a year is better than winning the G1.
You know what? We included him. So, it's our fucking problem. It's because of fucking Gaz.
That's why we included him. What the fuck? What was it? Can you just, I don't know if you have them.
What were the percentages of one match that please do? It was not. I have to go back through it. I don't have them readily available.
But much one was like, fucking 80% to 20. Match two was like 85% to 15. They weren't even close. Yeah, like three people apparently know who a carder is.
Please, guys. Come on. I'm going to start. If it weren't the skin, because I'm a poor student now, I'd be starting fucking giving away New Japan World subscriptions because you bitches need educating.
Like you really do. This is a nightmare. Always, all the gifts as well. From Axel.
All the fucking cheeky gifts. Get a fuck out of here. Unbelievable. So the Rainmaker gets eliminated by Mr.
fucking woo woo woo. Anyway. Speaking of rain. Oh, so we don't even know where this is.
Is it not finished? It's not right. It's not finished. So if Roman rains versus brickbaker by the way, it's match three.
I can't call it early because it is daft close. Shit. It's 54% to 45 currently. Can you be retweeted again?
You're trying to get it in a report? No, I think I did it like two hours ago. I don't want to keep on mind. You're bad.
No, I feel less retweeting. Do it. Do it. It's the final push.
I'll put final push. I'll put 30 minutes. Last 30 minutes. Let's see.
Roman rains, brickbaker. We'll give you the old, well, the old. Razzle, dazzle. Razzle, dazzle at the end of the podcast because it'll definitely be over then.
So what's match four? Match four is hangman and Andrade. Sweet Jesus. Well, I think that's an over there.
I think we're back to no brain as I thought it was. So, what was going to say then? Oh, yeah. So Lee Price basically saying, oh, you're doing a bracket or I thought you were doing my draws.
So I'm still, I'm still up in the air about that whether I want it as a bracket because if it's a bracket, the next match is Darby Allen against my card owner. Maybe we should do another draw before and I'm still not a draw. I'm still not designed as a bracket. So we'll just do a draw.
I just joined the draw. Yeah, the draw was one. And it'll give us a stop out on the podcast because it's like, oh. It's totally, totally random.
It remains random. Yeah. I don't give a shit now what card has gone. I don't give a fuck now.
We win today. I'm joking, obviously. Yeah, it's very close. So we'll see what happens there.
Oh, I was, I was quite surprised at the Darby Allen Bethelinch being quite the landslide. I thought it would be like the Roman rains brickbaker, you know, where it'd be quite, you know, I thought it'd be a dead jet because I feel like people who follow us, you know, more than likely watch a w w don't talk about the w w anymore. But yeah, so I got, I was surprised. It was 72.2% to set 27.8.
And somebody did reply saying, well, some one of them's only been back for two months. It's like, that's not the point though. Like you just said, like I don't know. Like I don't know.
Like I don't know. Only just got in this tournament on a technicality when he turned up and had a cup of coffee in a w he's marina. He's a fucking technicality. That's piss me off.
No, I'm joking. I'm sorry. But yeah, so technicality, my car don't is in there. I think the thing with like Darby and Becky Lynch is back.
Because the thing is with this is, you know, the question is who's had the better year, but people won't take it like that, you know, within, you know, because if you looked at who had the better year, my car don't know wouldn't have beat a car. So it's what people know and who people like. So at the moment, they turn Becky, they turn Becky Lynch, he'll she's been in the worst booking of a career. She's, you know, getting into fucking scrapes with with Charlotte.
So no one gives a fuck. Like nobody outside of the people that were lucky enough to. Do you know what else is sort of for that New York show that there were miles behind A.W.1 and so they started giving away two for one ticket. Now if you buy two, you can get five.
Fuck off. It's just stupid. You know what? We were liking it.
We were being a bit snidey because we remembered a group on deal that came through where the Saturday's when they were still a thing. It was buy one, get one, free one, group on. And we were lumping them with the Saturdays. It's worse.
The Saturdays were more popular than the WWE. Right. This is the fucking thing that's pissing off at the moment. It's when A.W.
did an After I stayed in and did over 20,000 people. All these marks is argument. These WWE drones. Their argument was, oh, well, the reason why these sold 20,000 tickets in New York is because their ticket prices were less well motherfuckers.
You miles behind now and the average ticket price now because if I won't get one free, it's seven and a half dollars. You can't even sell the building out of seven and a half fucking dollars. You can tell I'm tired because I'm on my house already. Well, I shouldn't be asked, but I'm fucking sick of seeing it.
I'm sick of seeing this bullshit fight between like two companies that were so sick. And all these fucking DWE plans arguing about it. A particular fanbase actually. There's one fanbase I'm really sick of.
Which one? Let's go for it. Which one? Sick of a Sasha Banks fanbase.
I think it's... She's got a fanbase. Babe. It's disgraceful.
So Sasha Banks' fans? Yes. Right. Taught to me why?
Not just fans. Stans. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Like, you know, it's a fan. Like someone who like really idolises them. Okay.
I've never heard that. Yeah. So Sasha stands are like insane. They're like, I'm not taking it upon themselves to attack Brit Baker in any capacity that they can.
What? They've gone out. I don't know what... How is this...
I don't understand. I don't know what's to spark see. I honestly don't. It's come from somewhere.
But like, I saw something the other day where one of the Sasha stands had put on something like... Can't even remember. It was something like a fucking picture of Brit Baker and... I'm just going to say random works.
Can't remember what they're... Right. And a sprout, let's say. And it's like, make the link guys.
What's the link or what does this mean? And oh my god. And they're just like... They're just the fucking putrefying.
They're like accusing Brit Baker of being a racist. I've seen that flying out. It's all become like this mad race issue of Brit Baker just needs to be taken down. Why?
It's fucking disgraceful. And I... Before I'd seen that, I'd seen a few tweets on the timeline, not on the list on the timeline of everybody that we followed. So I don't.
Say it. These Sasha stands are fucking insane. They're like actually mad. And I've seen that for weeks.
They're fucking crazy. They're off the red. Like to the point of abusing over wrestlers. Because in different companies.
Because they're such a big fan of Sasha Banks. That they're just going out there waiting troll. Like full on troll. What call Brit Baker a racist?
They're trolling Brit Baker a moment. I don't know what's about it. But they're fucking going after her. They're going after her.
It's wild. It's like a fanbase. The only thing I can liken it to at the moment that I've seen that's fucking mad is the K-pop's fanbase. Where they're mad.
They're fucking... Like I'm gonna say mad. What I mean is the mad four then. I'm not saying they're fucking crazy.
Is it like the one direction thing where the twig woman and putting like 355, 56. It's on that level. It's such a wild. It's fucking wild.
And you know, I don't know a lot about it. So obviously, you know, if there's any sort of person who can give me some sort of context out there as to why the Sasha fans are so fucking angry. I think you want the context. Yeah, a little bit.
It makes no faster than sense. Why are you not having to...? I mean it's just fucking mongues. This is the thing with WWE.
Cause like, AEW have got shit fans as well. But with the AEW fans, it is the scenario of punching up. So they can be forgiven. They can't be forgiven for what they say.
And they can't be forgiven for being fucking stupid. Because a lot of them are fucking stupid. But the WWE fans are stupid and punching down. And there's nothing more like fucking silly for two professional wrestling companies.
For their fans to be so vile. Like they're just disgusting. And what thick as well. So the arguments are always thick.
Like the argument of the ticket thing. It's like, aw AEW's price is a cheaper. So fuck him. It's like, and then as soon as there's nothing worse than a double standard for it not to be met.
Because if, you know what I'm like, you won't even say anything bad about New Japan. But in this situation, if AEW does something wrong, we're going to say it. We don't watch WWE. But if it comes upon us without trying to search for it, we will talk about it.
Which it always does. It's because they're the biggest company. But yeah, Monday Night Raw, did you see all that shit? No.
Apparently it was like a fucking awful show. And they did the worst demo ever. But because of the opposite of the observer, argument was daylight saving time. Right.
Which makes sense. But again, we're talking about 200,000 people. Yeah, I mean, as I say, I'm over it. I'm over that ratings thing.
It's going to fluctuate. It'll be up and down. But we're not talking. We're not talking.
It's talking down by millions. That's a talking point. Yeah, yeah. Because it's like, oh, WWE or AEW pisses off the fanbase so much that this week, going to 200,000 people watch.
Then you'd be like, holy shit, this is fucking wild. Pissed everyone off of that much. Literally everyone's turned off. Because we know the ratings are bullshit anyway.
Because of the whole, WWE is unlike the equivalent of the BBC. And AEW is on cable. Means bullshit. And they do have loads of sporting events.
And they do move like AEW moves times. So it's like you can't leave the ratings. I couldn't give a flying shot. It's the live shows that I'm more interested in.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they're taking sales of being appalling. Which is just, to me, it's just funnier because it's, you know, it's like, you talk a big game, but you're fucking shit. And the thing is as well, is so the last hour due to daylight savings time was the one that dropped.
And apparently the main event was Rawlings Against Owens. And they got B-Stit in the back because of the ratings the day after. And it's just like, at a live show, they got fucking wasted. It's like, it's got nothing to do with them.
It's a fucking, it's because the clocks went back. So they're not asked. It's the aesthetic. The aesthetic.
Did we talk about the releases last week? Did we even do that? Don't even think we did do a show, did we? So, it happened late last week.
I mean, how are you about talking about that? I'm not asked because it's, and there's more to come apparently, of course. Of course there is, because they're trying to fucking sell it. It's going to keep happening.
They're trying to sell it. That's the only reason why they're doing it. And they're not hoarding fucking talent anymore because they're going in a different direction. And Keith Lee can't wait to see him somewhere that I actually fucking watch.
So that's the end of that. Right, so we've had a few comments on full gear and we've had a question for the show as well. So start with that. Why has it gone off now?
Jesus Christ. There we go. Excellent. Well, I'll just go to JMo as well.
Question to the pods. Do you think we'll ever see Edge in AWW? Oh, yeah. And how do you think it would go?
I think it could be the return run we all wanted when he came back at Rumble 2020. And that was before COVID. Well, yeah, it was before COVID. Yeah, it was.
Yeah, it was. Can I go? Yeah, go for it. Yeah, go for it.
Yeah, go for it. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go.
I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to be some bread.
When he came back at the Rumble, it was pre COVID. It was such a moment. It was an amazing, amazing moment. And we were kind of like a bitorowhatects and everyone wants to see Edgevac.
And he got like... The crowd pop was amazing. We always saw that like pick WWE documentary thing where they showed on that stage and all that shit. The problem he's got is the same problem Jeff Hardy's got, where the longer you stay, the worse it gets, and the more people in AW don't give a shit.
I'm talking about AW and they can go anywhere and wrestle. you know, Jeff Hardy could go into impact and it would be great and he'd do a great running impact and I think he is quite a Impact for it, you know, obviously they you know, they've done impact and all that shit and you know the the rubbers So but right now with a w the way it is. I'm not sure I'd you'd make that much of an impact For one of the phrase. I'm not sure it would be the same as if he came out at rumble say and Then went away because he didn't like the booking and didn't do very much And he obviously had you know that match with Randy Orton when they were doing the backstage thing It was fine.
It was actually quite we were entertained by it, but I think the longer you're there now I think the the the dimmer your star gets and you start to become You start to become like so what and Christian joined AW at like the perfect time for Christian because it was before we start getting The rumblings about punk or Brian It was while you know the stars were on the rise of Darby Allen, you know the building those stars which and hangman and people like that You know, they were popular, but you know, you're looking at superstar in hangman now Totally made him really like like the completely built in from the ground up And because we now used to every time WWE does releases It's like oh who's going to a we've that's been an ongoing conversation for 12 months plus 18 months. It's pandemic massive releases That's been the conversation. Oh, the going to a w going to a w and now I think that whole gloss has gone and the people are responsible for that Two people responsible as I say, it's punk and Brian It ain't getting any better than most two signings those two are the big signings jeff had to control tomorrow edge can show tomorrow And I don't think I think the crowd will lose it the live crowd. I think I'll lose it doesn't translate to viewers at all Because we just watch punk and we watch Brian's not translates a view as a viewership's remained I mean Brian gave him a bump.
But the gone back to where we were, you know, it's still like It's still like kind of in that million sort of like zone if you're talking viewers so in terms of like The business side of it and how exciting it'd be from a from a general point of view I think it would be muted in comparison to have they joined a year before Have they joined when the pandemic first started or or they they debuted before Brian and punk for me I I would like to See jeff had he there. I know like that wasn't the question But I feel like to complete the collection because you've got one, you know, you need the other I think jeff would fit in really well and I think he would come in and he'd work Because he's been a really good work for wwa. He'd come in and work and I don't think and I think they could do some cool shit with those two Edge I don't know. I'm a bit like it's too late.
That's where I am with him I don't think it would be as big a deal. I know it sounds really bad But I don't I don't know. I'm just not I feel like the the ship has passed. It's gone I don't know the jeff thing.
I completely agree with you. It needs to be there like matt said He wants his final kind of career run to be an attacking this brother in a w Yeah So that's what he said, you know matt is very rarely wrestling these days Which is a good thing after the summer match Um, so jeff makes a lot of sense because he goes in as a mid-carder with his brother You know, it's just the way it goes Edge is a tough one because What I'm starting to and they never will do it in this way but I'm kind of getting a bit me about the xwwe people And The thing is right and you've not seen this but this is obviously from dynamite last week Eddie Kingston and punk and we'll get on to that when we go through the card Can I just say that I had to go out and catch my train and we sat and watched Was it on rampage? I was on dynamite rampage and we were sitting watching it and I literally had a train to catch Yeah, I had to go and get ready for the train The one part of the show I wanted to watch and I'm really annoyed by it because I really wanted to see it Well after this we'll watch it Am I two favourite wrestlers really? Yeah after this we'll watch it because it's worth it Um, probably one of the most uncomfortablely fantastic promos you could ever see And that's great because punk knows what he's doing there He's trying to you know get a big time match going with for Eddie Kingston Eddie Kingston has said you know, he's the biggest match of his career was mocksley for the title Which is fair enough, you know, he's trying to set the title but it's not his this one And everybody gives a shit about this one Nobody thought he could have beaten mocksley in the title match Nobody really that I've seen thinks he's gonna win on Saturday However, I think he will However, I don't think he will, I do I think he should win but I don't think he will win But the thing that makes me think we're going into later on but I'll call this show Yeah, let me go back to what's up about Okay, okay So for me now is the the xwwe not starting to annoy me So there was one like before I think I might have woken up for a minute or something like that But there was one on dynamite last night where Cole brought in Bobby Fish And was like this guy's cool.
He's gonna beat up jungle boy on Friday And he was kind of like nodding to each other and the book said, you know, what is isn't something about undisputed It's like okay, I've had enough of that. I'm out of that. I don't need you to call back to that I don't find it funny anymore I find it funny on being the elite when they're being dickheads Yeah, yeah, yeah But I don't find it funny on the dynamite show It's because I don't have anything to do with it I don't want anything to do with it So I don't want to hear about it And the problem we've signed in all these xwwe people Is the show starts to look like a wwe show and I know we're always saying like, you know, this is what Daniel Bryan's been capable of unbelievable match with Kenny Omega unbelievable match with fucking Eddie Kingston Like this is the Daniel Bryan that we all watch it and it's a different Daniel Bryan The thing is he's like when you start signing like your edges and you know, and you're going through them all is They're not that high caliber of a wrestler It's a psychology thing and christian cage puts on fantastic matches Like I really enjoy christian cages work, but he isn't a Daniel Bryan So he doesn't fit in there He only just fit in when he was the surprise Signing but I don't think christian cage fits in where christian cage fits in is basically what they're doing with him Which is always a great thing with a wwe is the people people are always doing what they should be doing in that particular time So punk should be going against the kingson right now and having a huge match That's a massive deal for a w. Daniel Bryan should be in the final of the tournament You know christian cage should be in a six man with jungle boy and Lutrosaurus against the super click which is again a huge match It's not he's not got a fucking kickoff show spot You know what christian's not gonna have that caliber a match that I really enjoy he's gonna have a good match and he's a great addition But the fact that christian cage is there To me, I like that christian cage is there because he didn't have to be there But he decided to go before the onslaught came and he's talked about how great it is and all this kind of stuff And you know, they're all working like one day a week and it's getting paid for it And you know, I'm sure they're all really happy and the quality and the work that they're putting out there is coming out But I do want them to stop signing like loads of new people.
I would rather see I'd rather Tony can Go and get a few from our OH Like you told me deppins and you know like you've had details Roush. I mean roush is that out injured for a fucking ages I mean down how down housing versus orange Cassidy the video I saw of that is fucking brilliant Yeah, and I know he's broke his leg as well and hopefully you'll be all right Terrible timing as soon as he gets released like it Works as well like but I mean it might help because they're all gonna be out and about so well down houses has been getting booked Is like the celebrity GM on shows so you'll come out in his wheelchair And be the GM so at least he's getting booked and he's getting paid and obviously like loads of places like rest of the server and Pro wrestling to use did a massive thing about like 10 percent off down housing shit because he sells him so much merch You know, he's made his main check every month is coming from pro wrestling to use because he sells so much shit But the amount of t-shirts he's got he's like a fucking wwe's wet dream. It's got about 40 on there Which is just completely mad But Would edge be great in in a w. Yeah, of course he would it would be a great thing Maybe a great story, but I don't want to see him like go again because it's because the easy booking which a w would never do But easy booking is it's bring him in bring Jeff ad and you've got edging Christian versus hardies one last time I don't want to see that because they're all past that and I don't want edge to go into the title picture And I don't want edge to have a feud with Christian So what is different to do?
Well, he could come in and kind of mentor some of the wrestlers So you've got how many people they got doing that So really if I was being honest Actually, I'd say I'd say I think we will see edging a w but I don't want to see him in a w because i'm sick of these wwe guys Turn up and like taking people's spots because the thing is you know The sign the signings they're making they're obviously like really You know, it's based on like whoever's in the company so Adam Cole fantastic signing He's instantly gone in there and instantly looks like an a w guy and he debuted on the last pay per view And he's just like how has he only been there a few months? It doesn't that makes no sense he looks like he's been there forever looks like he was an original member of the click They look like they're the elite which you know, I mean the a to do That is literally been a perfect sign. Yeah, well Cole's the fucking best He just he's just is he's the fucking best he will be a w champion at some point because he's too fucking good Yes, it's far too good at everything he does everything But um, I think the edge return at the rumble was amazing But they've botched him so badly like they botched everybody you know he was on on track to be the biggest super face Of that year, you know coming back from injury And he fucked it they fucked it by turning him into a whiny bitch and then because he turned him into a whiny bitch He didn't get the big pops that he was getting me first that coming back So then they got scared and he turned him heel, you know Whatever a w would do with edge would be right, you know, it would be but it's just whether or not you want to see it I put and that's the thing that we kind of spoke about a couple of shows ago Of the getting away from like the business side of talking about wrestling because we've just fans And you know talking about the business side of it is fun and it's great to think about but I Would rather put my effort into talking about What I want to see and what I want to see is what I want to see and I don't give a fuck if no one else wants to see that But don't we think though that I we have to like We were obviously the only wrestling promotion we followed as the bwe Like at a point and you know, we knew about you know, obviously we were like we knew about new japan We knew about our o h and you know impact to some extent, but we didn't follow them I don't think our trajectory away from wwe is much different from a lot of fans I think quite a lot of fans have done the same june if you will that there's as we have and I think what's happened is because we like at the time when you know pong kombrian and well before a lot before that Because that was only a couple months ago, but like a year ago when we started doing the podcast again Um, so like round about that time and we were like, oh, you know, thank god wwe is on because it's great to have this escape from that to that is It's it's polls apart. We completely changed but some of a lot of people We're not the only ones who will be feeling this and as you start to like move away from wwe and Accept that it is what it is.
Yeah, and it's you know, I get a fucking entertainment show. It's over there It's doing some fish yeah rubbish and it's an entertainment show that is for a certain type of person Wrestling yeah, but like as the time has gone by and we've you know watched more and everyone else has watched more a w and all of that stuff and Maybe new japan and all that jazz. I feel like we're all in the same boat where The collective now sees the longest day at wwe Less stock goes so at first it was like we want all these people from wwe to make a w great and we've had those conversations Like they need those people especially me when I was talking about the women's division They need those people to make a w great they need to sign up have a big sign in and all it took was reeby riot And i'm done now. Yeah, i'm totally done and obviously would I you know like freak out if charlotte was there Yeah, but mainly as a big sort of middle finger to wwe and because she can wrestle She's like a safe pair of hands in the ring and she's you know proficient and can do a job And it's you know like is the whole package of a wrestler everything you could have a hope for women's wrestler today But the more time goes by and the more we're all continuing to keep moving away from them the more pathetic they become and the thing i can liken it to is like when how i am wwe now is when This sounds really bad, but when a soap star wants to become hollywood actor and they go into hollywood and you're like But you're so small for i you're never gonna make it in hollywood, you know like sally from coronation A daughter is a big fucking hollywood star, but she's not I thought it was the leading britchetton Before squid game it was the highest So what you basically say is you liken in edge to sally webster?
Yes, I think I am I think I am i'm like That's how i'm now that i've completely gravitated away from thinking wwe to be adds to it And now feeling like they take away from it and i think that's become a natural thing Because their own stars are coming up. They've got our jam packed roster To me it was all over it down your brain and see i'm pumped for sining That it finished at that point the most exciting science still remains thing when he came out It was a surprise it was men i'd loved it and now it's they're completely done That's me i've moved away And i think a lot of people have moved so far away from them that now you do look at them all Even people like kevin owens and stuff you look at them all and go the longer you're there the worse it gets and the less you add So the longer you're in wwe Aw has moved on so much even in the last four months that you're now Go you're you'll get the disparity is just too great that you don't fit you don't fit now And I think that is I think a lot of them will be sweating they were trying to ride out the contracts hoping to get signed by w i think Yeah, I think there's a lot of people who see for me there isn't one person in wwe know That i would be like oh you've got to get him you've got to get her you've got to get him I just i'm none of them like if shall it's turned up it would be it'd be funny What do they need it? No, I don't think they do need it Like because the thing is is like you know if cm pong can't get you an extra fucking 200 000 viewers a week which arguably maybe he has And there was all that you know amazing shit when he first came back. No nobody's gonna So so what are you trying to do you trying to turn it into a place where wwe let's let's be honest wwe rejects Go to actually prove how good they are or are you gonna have it as a company where The people that you're signing and you develop in are your own people and they do that really well Hence why darby and mjf's gonna be a great match and you know there's A w people up and down the card, you know the main event is a w people But there's got to be a time when he needs to put the checkbook away And like you know if if i suddenly became available would i do anything with him?
Yeah, i probably do something with him but i wouldn't sign him to a contract I'd say how about coming in and doing a month and then you've got that constant revolving door of every month that somebody liking edge You come in and get a big pop and then get a cheer and then goes away again Because the thing is he's like For him to get the run that we all wanted to quote axle is he'd have to be in the main event picture And i don't want to see edge in a main event picture any of you can't be like he could be and he'd do a very good job And he would have really really good matches The problem is he's do i want to see him in that spot? No i don't want to see him in that spot I just there's nobody what i see in that spot if they want to sign a Kevin Owens and turning back to scene If they want to sign you know all the members of the undisputed era which it looks like they're gonna be doing And then Cole's gonna break off and do that in a w i don't want it because i've seen it I want to see something new and i know you can't see something new Was she a copy of faction that was made in ww? That seems to be the way to go in is the one who i break out and call away Fish will be around kylarily is literally counting the days down because he's doing jobs to fucking all sorts of people And rogerich strongly apparently is not having a great time So that at some point will probably happen Well the problem with that is i've seen it and i know wrestling's really hard to show me something new But it's it's your own roster of people and if you're just bringing in people just to do the wwe stick or Because the thing is he's Daniel brian was a big time wrestler without wwe As far as technical ability he was having five star matches he was a railway she was like close to wrestler of the year And all that kind of shit. I don't think he had a fire star before the last one but i can't remember i'm too tired So he makes sense see him punk makes sense because he's got the r.h links and all that kind of stuff Those people make sense Owens stein makes sense zane makes sense But doesn't necessarily mean you have to pull the trigger on it because if for somebody like oins because he's such a big star He has to come in in a decent role so somebody has to go to dark and elevation You know i already don't see enough john silver on dynamite and rampage because of that I know he's been on it a couple of times recently But there's loads of people like a shawn spears who has to take a step back You know all these people have to take steps back.
It's like no i don't want to see Kevin Owens doing the Kevin Owens thing in a w I don't want to see brian why in a w because he takes a spot from somebody who i'm actually really join in the moment The show is great as it is From my point of view the only thing that would make you better is i would literally take that fucking two million dollars That you're gonna throw at edge and just give it to new japan and say let us do a super show Let us do you know like you did at my sister's guard with arrow h Let us have a couple of people you know even if a card is like on a card Or tanah hash is on a card or a bouche is on a card whether going against fucking five or you know somebody from A hybrid too and just destroy them that's good enough for me I don't i'm not asked about them being in a program with somebody They can be if it wants to be but then you're getting into the politics of who wins and who loses and i'm not interested in those politics So whatever money you're gonna give edge if it's a fucking new japan and say You know if you if you want to send a card over for a couple of weeks We'll pay more load of money. Um, this is just an up front of thank you for working with us Yeah, and you know a card can be you can put new japan matches on a w shows Like that would be awesome for me like safety. I'd like you know a super show or even if it's not a super show But it's like um, you know doubling up them. You've got the id Think of matt haadi and there and you know the matt the hardy fount factory office or whatever Yes versus chaos with a cadre in the team and matt haadi takes the pin to the rain maker You know that perfect That's what that's I want to see your carder in a spot on an a w show where he's getting lauded as the fucking one If not the best wrestler in the world So if tana hash is got the u.s belt because i think he's on this uh battle for the valley show You can come in the coming into a six-man tag against fucking you know hybrid too and matt haadi and get i don't know i keep picking on my Adity jobs, but he should but they are a job a team that's that's a funny thing.
You know why couldn't you have Yeah, go for it. I mean imagine like a new japan Like team against the elite on a dynamite just when they're over touring It's like a karda tana hashi and If you're gonna if you're gonna dream book it a carda tana hashi in a bouche or shingo You know take any one of them out but shingo in against the elite I mean come on. I can know based on the results of the poll no one knows the fuck i'm talking about it But that's what I know it's a very long quincy tanta act But that's kind of what i want to see i want to see that shit where It's weird in it because i kind of what i what i'm kind of looking for now is that big crossover show Is that big super show? That's what i want to see like what we've been talking about for like the past year of the resalmania esque stadium show Where every company's involved with it over the wwe That's kind of where i want them to go with it because it's a cool thing to do And i feel like a w does a lot of things just because they're cool to do it not because necessarily They'll bring in the most viewers on the most money which can be commended and in the long term they will get praise for that But that's what i want to see Well, i don't want to see it's a parade of wwe releases I feel like you know when we're talking a couple months ago of like oh are they now full and can came out and said your wens are wrestling roster full um I feel like they are full now.
Yeah, but don't you think though like again? It's like wwe ptsd that we've all got where we're obsessed with people getting signed and that they're owned by that company And we're only ever satisfied when they're signed and they're there like it's really Definitely a wwe think definitely because The only other time you talk about signings is when you talk about sport and stuff and you sign a break Oh miss bows. Excuse me Um The only time to talk about signings is when you talk about sport if you take like football for example anyone who's followed football Especially at your top top levels and in fact no more so if you follow a team that is in the lower leagues You know you cannot get attached to any of those players because they're not lifers They're gonna be once all the clubs Like even i remember being at the charity shield when we died watching i get beat three nil by arsenal That's like fucking trounse when i was forcing you know whatever the fuck back in the night is and knowing that david becker was not going to be With united forever knowing that it's like why is everyone so attached to someone who's players? They're not gonna be ever to get signed to all the teams and you sort of get used to that in sport You know it happens in basketball all the time, you know, it's fucking me when we were watching sellex originally when we went over there We watched him get beat every fucking game and Like then the next time we saw him those players that we loved are all gone Yeah, like and it's like that's just how it goes in sport You don't get attached to people they get signed and you get excited they're signed You know that they're out the door in two three years time if they're dead good and someone else comes along for better off They're out the door But for some reason because that's not for some reason because of wwe and the keeper walks in those crazy contracts where back in the You know and they were the only company because they put everyone else out of business There was no real competitor It's like he signed to wwe without a life you'd reach the pinnacle again for one of a better word You'd reach the top and you were signed and you were there forever once you're in wwe left ever and if you get let go You're just not good enough and now we're all watching a w and we're like When someone gets released from wwe were like obsessed with like you must sign them you must sign them It's like no no a wwe doesn't have to sign We took that signing contract.
I've signed everyone and anyone that doesn't mean that they can't be on a wwe You know, bro. Why it for example You know like he is a free agent now as of this week I believe and god knows where he's gonna be but he could be on a wwe but doesn't have to be a signed wrestler So a w I think we all need to get out of that wwe we headspace where a company's own them They don't have to own a w doesn't own them anyway The only thing in the a w contracts are the car wwe wwe Yeah, which is fair enough because no wwe rest of the come over them. So that's absolutely fine So even if they do sign a contract away wwe ought to impact or to or not our wage anymore The deal with impacts over isn't it now? No, I thought it'd come to an end.
No, it's not it's not a deal Like this thing that's pissing me off about people as well like say like fucking bully ray and shit saying that The a w impact experiment didn't work and all this kind of stuff It's like motherfucker like there was so much buzz around impact for the last like six months Like it doesn't matter if people do much if people bought those pay-per-views highest pay-per-view buys like since they've moved since they changed from tna So like you shut the fuck up. It's all about like sorry to jump in but like it doesn't matter if you're signed Every over wrestling company apart from wwe To my knowledge allows their wrestlers to go elsewhere pretty much all of them do rOH does have a lead or did whatever You know like new japan they have like deals with over like with it repro or whatever the fucking you get the repro It's it's we're all still really concerned about the future of all these people But yet we don't have to be they don't have to go into some golden hankoff's deal like we've we so used to happening It can be fluid, you know ray Wyatt can be a free agent for the next fucking 10 years if you want to and that will suit him fine They'll own loads of money. We'll get boxes certain shows. It'll be all over the place Yeah, and it's fine But that side of it isn't isn't the issue the issues whether you want to see him in a w and i don't i don't want to see bray Because it's too much like you're taking a spot away from somebody else and you know the fiend and all that kind of stuff fantastic Character actor and from all sense of purposes that he's doing films bray That's what the app is next project is a film I don't want to see me a w because it then becomes wwe show like if if fucking edge comes in and then you don't see darby allen again for three months That's not a good thing You know if if someone comes in and takes another spot away from somebody else like daniel brian and cnpunkow It's not a good thing because i'm not asked about it the thing is we're brian and punkies they've done so well As in for my opinion like maybe not punk from the wrestling side But from the talking side and and this this eddy kenston sort of two week rivalry perfect It's completely turned the but turn it around for me because i didn't give a shit Like we come in and he's going against darby allen who's like face is like what you have to get it was i'm gonna be him or mjf for me It was i'm gonna be kenston or mjf to make punk punk going heal Yeah, and this is another thing that's winding up is everybody thinking punk's not gonna go heal he is because punk is a heel And he's just waiting for the time when they can pull the trigger on him at being a heel because i've got daniel brian as even though he Brian's been wrestling healy so not none of them are there they don't give a fork Back and forth they're not there but you know they know the heels in a w their merchandise sales don't get affected because you've not got a lot of people Shitting the pants buying the t-shirt Yeah long long story short axle no i don't want to see i don't want to see i don't want to see i jin in a w and the reason why is because i'm getting a bit tired of this You know because literally over the last three months and this is the people outside of who's been released Everybody's been linked with a w bar roman rains, you know and literally you can only like so many but really fully think of like When wwe2k to it comes out this is gonna be the roster and it's just like an empty tree apart from cedar and roman rain Like there's nobody else there but a w can't take them and if a w does take them they become nxt 2.0 But not really because that's even worse, but like i don't want to see i want to see a w i don't want to see these fucking wwe has been And that's really hard it's really hard thing to say because edgy's great But unfortunately he ain't you can't go you can't go because he's had fucking chillos of injuries He's not putting on a match with kenny omega like that that should be the gold standard Is could you put on physically could you put on a match with kenny omega like daniel brian did yes or no if the answer is no You know he good enough i don't give a fuck if you just turn up on dark you ain't good enough Five had a fantastic match with omega You know that should be the benchmark can you come in and have an amazing match with kenny mega without him fucking carrying it the whole way If it's no then it's a no and they've not got any space like edgewood edgewood asked for a footload of money And what i would do with that i'm out of money i would put it into like other people's contracts I put it into other people's contracts or i would go out and try and find some new talent So you've got some new a w talent like i want him desperately to get away from this parade of signing xw People because i just don't care like keep keep lee i when he was nxt and north american champion I was like this guy is gonna be fucking wwe champion is exactly what Vince wants and they even fucked him up You know kerry and cross do you want to see me a w no absolutely You need to go see you back to impact He really does Iman is mrs.
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Probably not they have different names maybe in Fuck off. I think they have the same answer. Well, like obviously they were doing great shit. Hence why wwe signed him go back You know like that fucking falcary has been like go short.
You know she should go back If they'll have her and you can afford her you know, I know it's very embarrassing to go back with you tail between your legs I'm sure that first locker room stuff But you got you were doing gangbusters there to the point where wwe know it's your and want to share Fucking go back to the place where you were doing a great job because you can't there's no there is no pinnacle anymore There's no there is no hot spot to go as a wrestler wwe's no longer a dream Awe might turn out to be a dream. It's really hard to get into at some point You know now the signings are all like they're and all that shit. You know, do we a do we I remember listening to the um Iconics podcast the offer chops one when they were talking about trying to get booked as wrestlers And they said and it was I thought I was shooing to get signed by a w at the time I really did and they sort of did a throwaway comment and I've probably said it before but I was like oh they're not getting signed by a w Because they said wwe use this a w's really into growing their own female talent and I thought oh that means a w doesn't want them So so it's like they do you know what I mean? It's like the right to say no to them Because they're very entertaining but they're not high quality wrestlers the good wrestlers, but they're not high quality So so what if they are because the thing is the iconics have gone into Impact and they're immediately the knockouts tag team champions.
That's what you have to do with xwwb people They have to go in at a certain level like you couldn't assign the iconics and had him like jobbing on dark for a month before they come up to To dynamite you've got a parade and you've got a part of your show introduce them which then means that you've got to do something with them Yeah, and the whole reebi so i'm signing is the perfect example of that somebody who is a very good wrestler and fits the a w mold The iconics unfortunately don't fit the a wm because the two busy shaking their asses while they walk down the ramp And i'm not interested they're great they're great like and they're very funny But i'm good We're gonna start having to be having to be harsh about this because I I love this show and I don't want it to change and like the the mindset and maybe it's some fucking knackered why i'm going this far But the mindset of three four months ago of oh yeah get the iconic saying oh why not oh yeah big show mark Big show mark and redo exactly what they need to do and that's behind the stage shit I'm not interested in seeing a big show much ever again because it was a fucking car crash and he did do a much on dark You know fair play to him But I want to see things that are gonna be interesting and a 10 minute segment of the iconic screeching voices There are the fact that ww release to me is insane because they are so wwe Painful, you know you can shake your ass all you want shake your ass all the fucking one Well, yeah, just one 23 year olds But like shake your ass fucking do a headlock takedown one two three perfect you're the new tag team champions fine But I don't want to see him on a w because it will it will lesser the show as far as my enjoyment of him It'll it'll boost it for a you know a couple of weeks and then after that they'll be doing because the thing is there's no like Women tag team so they'll just be constantly going against two random women that've been together and it just doesn't make any sense So which is probably why they didn't get signed because they don't have a women's tag team like division They had the tag team tournament and then dropped that because it was like what's the fucking point So that's why the tbs title be made instead of a women's tag team titles, but yeah, just just fucking you know Give me some new people or give me some people from new japan You know like when nxt was signing those like some of the indie stars that we've never heard of it were great Let's bring in some like famous indie stars like I have to say I don't know I was like I actually really like that war horse guy. Yeah, I really did I thought I like him because I don't know him. He's coming with a gimmick that it's quite clearly something he's honed over a very long time Yeah, yeah, absolutely It's like a downhill since I person it's like a rhabacy people like that get signed Because I don't know their full capacity yet. I've not seen them peak.
Whereas when you're a ww I've seen your peak. Yeah, like I've seen the best it's ever not the best obviously because you can do your own promos and you know You can argue that you know me know, but you know me you've gone to the top Yeah, I don't need you to sort of like in but it comes calm down and do the same shit I want to see someone reach their peak of yeah, you know, like they've not been on tv before But they've been absolutely smashing it on the indies who's the perfect example that eddy kinksen is my perfect It's exactly the perfect example. That's not the one I was thinking of the one I was thinking of was from the rosar That is the signings you need to start making absolutely because these people are already complete veterans They're comfortable as fuck they can wrestle so fucking like like water. It's so easy for them All they have to probably learn is the tv stuff which will be instantaneous Easy easy easy and Doing promos which they'll be caught in in the indies every fucking night Yeah, that's why moxley was so good at promos like because he was caught in them every night on the indies You know and he made promos a thing for him.
So it's like an eddy kinksen is another one where the book Yeah, I'm gonna talk about the actually but like um the I would much rather see really established indie wrestlers who are superstars because there was nothing more exciting than eddy kinksen I mean that was a whirlwind First came out like who the fuck's this guy with the mic and he was just perfect with the mox right away He came out with no music and just started talking and that's like in he did a Big article in that sports magazine. I read it all and I loved it I was such a great article and he was written by him in his words It wasn't like an interview in him. He kind of like starts to finish his voice And you know I was talking about like saying to kody kody roads and people saying like what music do you want? And it's like I don't want any music.
I'm not your I'm not on your roster. Why would I have music such a great one? Like I'm not on so I'll just talk and it's like cool. Yeah come talk And you know he wrote over and it's saying kody's like bropper into it saying yeah fucking L.
I like let's do it and kody was really Accommodating yeah, I think he would be of course. I'm sure he's a bit. I'm sure he's a good yet but like but it's eddy kinksen came in and was thrilling like that is so much more exciting seen somebody like that Yeah, come in and see in the next star who you've seen everything they've got to offer pretty much Maybe they got held back a little bit wrestling style wise. Maybe you got a little bit promo wise I've seen them.
I've seen them for fucking years So it's like you can't show me anything and that was the intriguing thing about punk because he'd gone for seven years And it's like and I never had the thing of can he still go because I'm not agist but it's like it was a case of I remember He left that he's fucking peak and he can talk and he can wrestle and he's a safe pair of hands And it's the same thing with you know Brian d'Annie also like he's you know He's you know he can do more wrestling wise and he isn't about the promos and he isn't about the person who's gonna come with To the ring with a mic with no music. He's just gonna put on a fucking clinic And enjoy and look like he's having a fucking fantastic time which also makes a massive massive difference Not so when he looks labored like the practice and try and it's like someone who just can do it in their sleep So yeah, I would much rather see the eddy kingstones of funder roses and those shocking people who you're like Who the fuck is this person? How exciting how fucking exciting they've just they've not just been languishing on the indices The indices are big deal, but they have been languishing on the indices and now they're on national television And that's this this moment here is changing their life Whereas it's not changing the lives of anyone. It doesn't need a couple of millions It really doesn't and neither did Brian our punk, but hey But at least they've gone in and they're doing what they do best.
Yeah, one's talking and the other one's wrestling. Yes Perfect and they do fit in so they do seem like a w wrestlers to call us doing the same thing like he's being like Cole is one of those he's like a he's like a sleeper superstar You know, he'll he's a sleeper at the moment We know he's gonna like you said, you know, he's gonna be the star at some point and he's never not Your eyes never never not on him. Yeah, he's there like you're always looking at him and you always He's you know, he's a he's in a heel faction. Yeah, and everyone's to cheering him and everyone's doing the baby thing No one's booing.
It's like it's that's fine But if you're gonna build stars that are gonna be super faces I think it's really difficult to get a build a face That's coming from wwe that isn't just getting an nostalgia pop Yeah to get an actual face pop where everyone's buzzing from like hangman like jungle boy You know white fonderosa white brick baker they get proper face pops I don't know fucking Brits of heel, but it's like they get like an actual genuine like Go go kind of thing. There's two things really that you can do in that situation It's either somebody who's never really had a chance like it's like a ruby so-ho or somebody completely new So if they if they sign I mean Keith Lee is a is a is a good example of that what he did have that NXT run Where he was getting everything so the fact that he didn't get anything on the main roster And he's had to pay for all these cardiac bills himself, which is just fucking absolutely Oh my god, miss boze I mean the fact that Keith Lee's had to pay for his own medical shit is pathetic They are a pathetic company deserve not to be a thing The thing with Keith Lee is he's not just If you compare him to Ruby Ruby was slept on and never got to really do anything Keith Lee got publicly humiliated by the fact the catch trying to reinvent him and trying and they are almost humiliated Black yeah, they almost because they were trying to bring him back. Yeah, but like but Keith Lee's been humiliated Yeah, the whole bear cap thing and the fact that he wanted him to not talk the way he talks even When he went talks like really grub really He was like If you're looking at Keith Lee that whole thing with Keith Lee and brought less than when they went face to face That no one won the place lost it. Yeah After the people in that building didn't know the footy work They didn't know who the fuck he was and he's still got that reaction So Keith Lee is one of the ones that i'm the most interested in but i'm still not that asked Someone did really funny to eat about um Keith Lee comes away to you.
I don't know if you saw it Where they said Keith Lee signs to a w um being the elite he passes Adam Cole and Cole goes Hey, do you need a manager? The most you were knowing we do to them and it's like but that's the reality of what they were looking at wwe Adam Cole was going to be Keith Lee's manager. We're going to change his name. Cut his air I mean, please.
I mean, it's but that's why the shit. Yeah, they are they are They are terrible. They're really terrible. I'm done with wwe talk I can't be asked anymore What's next when you listen to the mocksley book as well?
Well, you should go up. I mean you should go up next because the only thing about left is full gear So I need to teach my life. No, no, no, go for it And then we'll get into full gear. I've got a full full match card or you know exactly change it Why don't we go watch that Sunday?
I don't know. I've got too much words to do. I can't see me watching it this weekend I mean, I've got I've got the idea was To maybe have a sleep on Saturday stay up and watch it and then go straight to golf because we've got to do early But I can I have to work unfortunately. So I think maybe Tuesday Wednesday maybe We'll see.
We'll see. So the mocksley book anyone who has has the mocksley book congratulations Um, I bought it the day came out because I was a bit intrigued by it and I listened to the mocksley interview with Jericho Where he discussed the whole if he was gonna write a book He was gonna do it in his own words with his little intervention by editors as possible Because he was saying things like I hate reading a wrestler's book where they go and then I joined ww We we were founded in bladid by the And you know, it's been added in no one speaks like that And anyone who's reading the book in his words was like everyone who's reading the book knows what to be to be me If you don't need to go to the background. So I was like very Passionate about essentially like it being me just talking and not giving any context because the people reading it's gonna be 99.9 Of wrestling fans. They don't need any background.
They don't need to explain who sephrolins is I just can say seth. Yeah, and all that shit. So And it was done by like a bit of an indie publisher. You can tell yeah It is all over the place And you do if you weren't a wrestling fan I think you'd find it a bit difficult and again on the podcast He said I wanted it to be like if you were in a bar one night and you came across a load of wrestlers And you just end up hanging out with them Yeah, and we're talking about like having color in matches and all that stuff You wouldn't really know what they were talking about but you start to understand it pretty quick Yeah, start to get the gist of what they were talking about And i really enjoyed it.
I really enjoyed the book. I'm not finished. I'm about like 60% through with it But um, you know like he was talking about in particular death matches, right? So, you know, like I can't remember the company GCW.
Yeah, it's like a death match night where he had his first one And um, it was it sounded brutal as a fork and because he used to come out and snap people with cheap with a fork That was his thing. Yeah, and um Is that something about doing like a Dinner match where like they he came out with a knife and fork and some fun and like made a cake It was just made of thumbtacks and they had a table set out in the middle of the ring and it was like a fucking dinner But um, he talked about one and I think it was Nick gauge where he did his foot like moxley did his first one And he like left and like you know for coming to different clothes and someone enjoyed the rest of it And then I think gauge had a really bad Accident in one of the matches. So much came up to him and went getting the ring and finished the match with this person So he was like oh, folks. We had to jump in the ring finish it, right?
and Then he came back and I'm sure it was gauge, but I'm really sorry if I've got a long person was his white top was just red in the back And what he's severed his veins in his outfit. You get gauged nearly fucking died on one game. Yeah, this is the one Yeah One thing like he nearly died and they're like I think he was like flatlining in the back or something Yeah, yeah, this is the one so like he was bleeding out because he severed his fucking veins in his armpit And they couldn't get an ambulance there because this fucking was going on in the middle of nowhere Helicopter came helicopter ambulance He died in the helicopter for like fucking four minutes But I did highlight a deparri passage. I know we don't want to be able.
I just wanted to um, yeah, go for it talk about his um Talk about cephrallins and him in fcw And So it says In just oh I liked this actually in December of 2011 to throw us a bone johnny a sense sephon I up on some house show loops I would go first Um in fort Myers florida. I think it's for my nazas update before my is florida on my first night I worked with a pre-yes movement daniel brian and we tore it up I remember most was sitting in the locker room beforehand and brian coming up to me his head on a swivel Looking around to make sure we were alone. He told me in almost a whisper Don't ask anybody for advice reason being if you did you were given stupid or bad advice And everyone will be watching the next time to make sure you did what you were advised to do If you didn't follow it, you would get heat I heated brian's words motion on guys would approach the top guys and say things like did you see my match sir? Anything I can work on that's just not my style No good to come with that that small conversation with brian gave me better insight to the machiavelli and shit that went on up there and he talks about um being Someone someone starts taking the piss out of one of his matches I was not particularly well liked either not by long shocks as if cephalor Orleans wasn't my life So people setting out an ego cep came back from a loop once and we sat down at four square burgers in tamper We'd juice to hear all about it cephalor that I had major heat how the fuck is that for what?
Oh right now I get it. I've been on a loop the previous week and on the first night I got stiffed really bad not completely fucking stupid and barely finished the match in a total punch drunk haze I have no memory of what happened next because I was concussed But when we got to the back allegedly I and nobody from fcw proceeded to motherfuck my opponent about safe front of locker room full of ww Stars you can imagine how this may have been received by some I didn't even know I've been concussed until the next morning when I realized I've been totally out of it all night I couldn't remember any of the match no big deal shit happens We had a great match the next night and I didn't think anything of it but gossip happens third and four pan stories get blown out of proportion And before you know it you'll repuratate reputation precede you Seth told me another story about some guys who obviously didn't like him trying to get him to drink with them Not in a friendly dude. Let's have a beer way. Well in a hey, we think you're cocky So we're gonna try and make you do a bunch of shots to prove you're one of the boys bully way Seth's not a drinker my fucking blood boil.
That's my boy. I did not care for that at all It's kind of shit brought us together what we're all those guys problems anyway Fuckin we thought and we got a chance we'll just outwork and out for more of them the account stop us But it seemed like that's exactly what the whole world was trying to do our pictures to create it when ignored Not to Tom had been fired. Rob McIntyre had been fired. FCW was in the midst of a hostile takeover and operations were set to move to Orlando That's where I'm kind of But I just thought that was just sounds like a fucking nightmare Yeah, it doesn't sound like a fun place to know Not at all Another thing like some of these places are gonna be fun some of them aren't and you know there might be in the future Some people might have some bad things to say about AW but it's been two years and no one said shit Even the I think they've released like three people So one was I think one was Jamie Hader and I'll be very signed rega.
Okay, the other was be priestly who is now on NXT UK Good luck finding anything about her anymore and the third was Jimmy havoc So and you know and I've not seen him batch him or anything like that. I'm sure he's just fucking trying to survive at the moment But anyway, let's go on some a little bit more fun. So a full gear we've been going for quite a while So let's race through this fucker. So Chris are excited Chris are actually one put full gear hasn't been the same since Clax and left It's better.
I have very funny Um at least prices put my prediction on full gear is that I read at least one spoiler before watching it on Monday evening Really looking forward to it though. My mum's comments are I can't wait to see hangman finally win the title and that hopefully is the way it's gonna go But I'm not so sure, you know, I'm not so sure but I'll come up with what I think Just fucking got rid of the match what loser super easy when you were even out so he's looking at uni open day shit Attention Jesus Um, let's look at this much good Looking get it up again in the next few minutes Okay, so lots of fucking get through so the buy-in we've got nyla rose and Jamie Hader What versus thunderozer in her car? No, she'da that's enough buy-in but fair enough Uh, then we got here Is it a late edition coley roads and pack versus malachi black and i'm drade I mean, it'll be fun match though. They're gonna keep trying to put him over.
Yeah, we'll be good You think wins that it's gotta be black. I would think so with pack taking the pin I'd like to think so Cranky. Yeah, I hope so you know because that's another question of um, you know, would you get some Like something like edging it's like a what I see more of a drade before a siege. Yeah, of course Darby Allen versus mjf Who's winning that one?
Think i'm just gonna take two wasms in a row on paper views I'm not sure Now I'm gonna stick with daby Allen The reason why I think i'm jeff is because if it's all a big if um hagman wins the bell mjf's a really good First run. Yeah, I suppose so super super heel. Yeah, so solidify his face and Jeff did say, you know, he beat hagman And he said it recently on even dynamite rampage. Oh, i beat hagman for this ring and all this kind of stuff So kind of laid the seeds a little bit there You want a pair of mates like a chess game?
I'm still moving the pawns about my halooza. No, don't be that Eddy Kingston's Sam Funk Shit Looking bold to me it was big time and they did a bit on dynamite this week Which was a similar kind of brawly type thing. Yeah, apparently i'm not seeing it I'd like to think Eddy Kingston's gonna win. That's just my wishful thinking.
I think if he did win, it'd be crazy It'd be crazy and then simple just like beating down at the end. Yeah, I think it's gonna turn like completely Solidify who's going forward as a heel because eddy's always on fence with that and he's you know, he's on heely shit too In the mocks were doing that's what he was going towards. Yeah, so I think it's going to decide Who's going heel there? Yeah, and we'll we'll toss that out as the match goes on.
Yeah, I'd like Kingston to win I think that would be cool. Yeah, of course I think it'd be cool because he's not had a big win on a pay-per view You know, I think You know the tag title match you have your mocks lee lost the title match you had you lost So it's all but I just think like if Kingston was winning it wouldn't have been a two-week thing It would have been like a month-long thing. Okay. Um, but there's so much like passion going into this Is it it's just gonna be interesting?
I'm looking forward to it. Yeah, I think that's the match that I'm looking forward to the most To see what happens out of it false count anywhere drastic express and christian cage against the super click It's gonna be madness isn't it? Yeah What was he's oh, yeah, there was a thing that apparently Matt Jackson's you remember I was like I don't know if you saw being an elite But yeah, he's he's he thought he's for yeah, yeah, because he got thrown off the stage by he'd just saw us anyway Even on TV. Um and apparently he jokes saying loot just or as nearly cost cost himself his first ever five star match Which is funny and I was like, oh, I'm still in it.
He's like to go with five star match Um, I don't know and I don't care who wins that because it doesn't really matter So the faces could go over there and give a jungle boy a big win and it doesn't affect Cole in the books at all If um If he taps him out with the snare that's what I think might happen is jungle boy taps out Adam Cole with the snare trap. Okay. That's what I think is the finish of that A mini-appellist street fight which excalibur said on the preview show We're Tony Khan on the unfiltered podcast which I'll listen to today the first ever AW mini-appellist street fight That if we were still in the room 101 mode, I'd put town named matches in there It's like the first ever mini-appellist street fight. Oh my god.
You fucking cares about that You know who cares about the foot you know, my ami hustle fight the first ever in AW first ever It's like a mini-appellist street fight is a real thing Whatever we got in a circle. So it's Jericho Sammy jk, santa namis versus many of the year jr Sansa's andry alofsky and danlambut Yeah, I think danlambut a lot of a few spots where he comes in and just you know Jericho's lay on the floor and somebody tags me He's runs in stumps him in a few times. Do you suppose this is gonna be the order the rim These matches I don't think so no, I don't think so because I don't think Kingston and punk are gonna be that early They might be the first one on I would put it on first Um, so it's a really really good, but brian dangelson's kind of in a mode of going on first at the moment So I think maybe that might be on it But yeah in a circle go over on that danlambut will get a judas effect to the face 123 so the world title eliminates ornament final dangelson against me around Dropping Miro's best ever match maybe Yeah, yeah, you know boys. Not really not really not really 30s I think that is going over definitely What should be amazing AW world tag team championships lucha brothers versus fdr That should be a great bunch I think lucha brothers already saying but um ft.
I'll still keep those uh triple a So I think something about On the line. I don't know what will be wrong uh aw women's world title match, but it make a tag on a Girlfriend break. I don't think it's losing. No, of course.
He's not well I think that could go one or two ways that could be a really good match or it could be a car crash Yeah, because neither of them are that good They're the good matches they've had have been in there with somebody who's really good like a serene a d but a thunder-rozer Yeah, so like the match is where they've not had somebody like that in there. It's been good But it's not been like pay-per-view caliber, but I'm sure I'm sure it'll be sure it'll be fine. Yeah Main event omega page who's winning? Come on.
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