#190: Strategy | Doing Marketing in a Sales-Led Organization with Taylor Udell, Head of Growth at Champify

In this episode, Dave is joined by Taylor Udell, Head of Growth at Champify, a sales intelligence platform that helps B2B sales teams identify key contacts for more effective outreach. With experience at companies like Twilio and Heap, Taylor shares the marketing strategies she’s used to drive growth in sales-led organizations.Dave and Taylor cover:How Champify drives awareness through events, LinkedIn organic, and thought leader adsWhy they stopped doing direct response ads and are seeing better results with high-value content assetsWhy cold calling is an effective channel in Champify's sales-led approachWhy they chose to stop hiring freelancers and agencies and instead opted to build expertise in-houseTimestamps(00:00) - - Intro to Taylor (02:33) - - How to Build Product Awareness (07:07) - - Why Thought Leader Posts Are a Better Approach Than B2B Ads (09:25) - - How To Measure LinkedIn Effectiveness (13:24) - - Areas Where Taylor Hopes to Drive Revenue Growth at Champify (16:08) - - Why Cold Calling Works at Champify (17:51) - - Measuring Success Between Sales and Marketing (19:52) - - Why Champify Stopped Using Direct Response Ads and Is Seeing Better Results with High-Value Content Assets (23:37) - - Driving Higher Intent with Content Assets (25:58) - - Why Champify Stopped Outsourcing Until They Had a Definition of “Good” (28:46) - - Measuring Success Without Gating Content or Generating MQLs (31:38) - - Advice for New Marketing Leaders (35:11) - - Closing Remarks Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Webflow - A website platform built for the agentic web, helping modern marketing teams build fully custom sites—no developer needed—that perform in AI search. Learn more at webflow.com/for/exitfive.Markup AI - A content quality platform that scans your content against brand voice, preferred terms, messaging standards, and AI-search readiness before it goes live, right inside Google Docs. Learn more at markup.ai.Optimizely - A no-code AI platform where autonomous agents execute marketing work across webpages, email, SEO, and campaigns. Learn how to deploy agents on your marketing team at Agents in the Mix. Learn more at optimizely.com/exitfive. Walker Sands - An integrated B2B marketing and growth services agency that helps marketing leaders turn strategy into measurable business impact through their Outcome-based Marketing model. Learn more at walkersands.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive, or check out the MCP server by clicking this link.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more