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EPISODE · Apr 25, 2025 · 43 MIN

190/ What Trump Sees in Bukele w/ Michael Paarlberg

from The Fire These Times · host Elia Ayoub

For episode 190 of The Fire These Times, Dr. Michael Paarlberg talks to guest host Dana El Kurd about El Salvador’s ‘state of exception’ under Nayib Bukele, how Trump sees that as a model, the conditions of Salvadorian prisons and what happens to the Venezuelan and other refugees and migrants deported from the USA by Trump and the unaccountable state actors doing his bidding.Paarlberg is associate professor at Virginia Commonwealth University and non-resident fellow at the Institute for Policy Studies. He was previously on TFTT in August of 2024 (episode 164) to talk about how Bukele created a ‘Gang State’ in El Salvador. As that was before Trump’s election, it is a good primer into what is it about El Salvador today that makes it so appealing to the maga movement.Support: You can support my work with⁠ ⁠a one-off or monthly donation⁠⁠ on Ko-fiMasterclass on Modern Lebanon:⁠ ⁠Registration is now open⁠⁠Newsletter: Subscribe to⁠ ⁠Hauntologies⁠⁠Social Media: I’m on⁠ ⁠Bluesky⁠⁠,⁠ ⁠Instagram⁠⁠ and⁠ ⁠Mastodon⁠⁠Contact: To collaborate, reach out on ⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠The Fire These TimesSocial Media: TFTT is on⁠ Bluesky⁠ and⁠ Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Transcription: You can help⁠ ⁠Antidote Zine⁠⁠ transcribe TFTT episodes⁠ here⁠Website: All episodes are archived ⁠on the website⁠From The PeripheryTFTT is a proud member of ⁠⁠From The Periphery Media Collective⁠⁠⁠, which you can support⁠ on Patreon⁠ and follow on⁠ Bluesky⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠ and⁠⁠ Instagram⁠.Check out other project wherever you get your podcasts:⁠ ⁠⁠Politically Depressed⁠⁠⁠Syria: The Inconvenient Revolution⁠ ⁠From The Periphery Podcast⁠ ⁠The Mutual Aid Podcast⁠⁠For more:Dana El Kurd is on BlueskyMichael Paarlberg is on BlueskyCredits: Dana El Kurd (host), Elia Ayoub (producer, episode designer), ⁠⁠Rap and Revenge⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (Music), ⁠⁠Wenyi Geng⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (TFTT theme design), ⁠⁠Hisham Rifai⁠⁠⁠⁠ (FTP theme design) and ⁠⁠Molly Crabapple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (FTP team profile pics). 

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