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Jan 29, 2019 1 hr 12 min

191 Cautiously Optimistic BDSM

from Perverted Podcast Hosted by Count Boogie

Some potential great news for Threshold, then we talked about normal insecurities revolving around play and pleasing your partners or when they want to please you. Then Boogie got triggered talking about predators at parties and our usual completely non-PC jokes and goofings. End song was a an old song off the Nerd Music Album called "Retch"

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Are you guys ready? Back to the level app for another Pivertify Catch Show! Woo! Welcome back!

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Woo! Hello and welcome to the Pivertify Catch! The show where we explore the adventures of the kinky lifestyle, sex and perversion! Recording live once again back in the love lab!

The threshold level app guys are amazing. It's a threshold level app. Sorry. One of our studio audiences.

We are in the very kinky. Hello, Barbara! Hi! I'm Kathy.

J.J. Over there we have. I'm Hunger. And I am Count Boogie, and here we are show 191.

Yay! 191. Wow. That's cool.

That's a love lab. Here we are. Surprise, surprise. Alright, Kathy.

So we have a lot of stuff to get to in the show. So I figured because last week, of course, the entire show wound up being about the threshold situation, whatever, and we have some potentially very positive updates, but we are not going to spend the entire show. We have a lot of new people that had to literally suffer through our show to get information about what's going on with threshold. So we're not going to do that, but we are going to keep ourselves updated because there's some good stuff coming up and we'll just do like a real quick thing.

So it's going to be that quick. It's going to be pretty quick. So I had to make a jingle! Fresh, old, fresh, old, fresh, old, we will run again.

Mind of sucks. I wanted something big. I wanted something powerful. It's very queen-flashcord.

Yeah, it was flashcord. It was very, very, very flashcord. Yes, that was literally when I was a kid. My favorite queen song for so long.

It is a cool queen song. So yeah, so I'll just give the kids a quick update. And I'll just say it as it is. The building and safety inspection for the threshold facility is on February 5th.

Correct. So... We're going to be here for that. Not me.

I will not be here. Okay. I am tapping out of the official things. We'll be out of the building.

Going back to the janitor's table. And so the current thing is the building owner has come forth without giving too much information and said not only are they going to fight the zoning issue, which they are very confident because they own a lot of the properties. And they can work us whatever we need to work and able to be in this location. But they have said that they are willing to pay for the modifications needed and pay for the permits that we didn't have and thought we had and didn't have.

So they have offered, they've already started spending money getting signs and things, exit signs and some of the things that we needed are starting in place. So that is, so we're in a holding pattern. What was amazing was after the show and I don't know someone put my fucking number out there. I posted your name.

I don't know. I think that somebody they gave out like it was supposed to be for certain people and they said, go, Boogie, if you want to help. So literally like 8,000 calls, I'm like, who are you? I don't know these people.

But anyway, the good news about that is most of these calls, people are ready. They are ready to help. They are ready to foster equipment. They've made space in their garages.

They have storage spaces. They are ready to come down and do whatever it takes to make sure that that the machine moves forward. And that has been very exciting. So it's very exciting to be able to tell everyone, hey, right now we're in a holding pattern.

We have to wait. The real, the real test is this inspection that comes in February 5th because that inspector is from the city and they are going to, hopefully they're in a really lazy mood and they don't want it, you know, they don't want our balls in a basket or whatever. And they just want to see, okay, these are the things you need to change. Go ahead and do it.

And if it is not, obviously, if it's within that range, then the building owner has said they will pay it. So if it is within a certain point, I'm sure there's a certain point where if they're like tear down the building and start again, you suck. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I don't want to be fucked in our version but it's either because believe me, there's so many problems I'm having today, it feels like it. Too much information, I understand.

I may have to pause the show. Oh, no, no, we're going on without you. That's fine. So anyway, so it's very exciting, but that is, that's what you have a question?

No, I just, it's, I'm cautiously optimistic. And that's, everybody who's listening should be cautiously optimistic because a lot of it is depending on so many different factors that are out of our control. Right. So it depends on what the building inspector is going to say.

We are not trying to screw it around any issues that are actually absolutely wants this place to be safe. And if it's within our capabilities, we will do it. And if, if that works, great. And if it doesn't, I love hearing what you said that everybody is mobilized and ready to do what needs to be done.

I absolutely agree. So let's get back to our group. It's a new quote actually. Mu is that true?

Mu is it not true? Mu? Okay. Potato mayhem.

If there's not blood, it's not good anal. She says it. So she says we put it to the test today, God damn it. We've never had a potato mayhem.

You're just a chisel thing. I am not messing around as long as I have a place, which I don't know how long that's going to be. But as long as I have a place, I'm going to try to work as much magic as I can. And I'm going to try to be on my game.

I'm really just, you know, this whole thing with the club and everything took us off for a loop and put us up. But we're handling it. Whatever. No matter what, we will rise again.

We're going to keep going. Everyone keep looking for places. None of that has stopped. So now it's time to once again get back to the focus on the show.

Right. And because we have a lot of people out there that rely on us and we want to make sure that we can just rock and rock and roll. I can't know. That we had more stuff on the threshold update.

That was it. Well, I mean, we'll have more every week, but I just don't want to drag on. I want to do 20 minutes on it last week. And it turned out it had to be the whole show.

It absolutely had to be. So we gave it and a lot of people, a lot of people that don't listen to us actually tuned in, suffered through the show, got the information, don't know if they'll be back this week. But I wanted to talk about that really quickly. What?

How membership? Oh, anybody who's listening, if you're listening for a threshold update and you remember, you're wondering very quick. Okay. Okay.

Just do that. If you are a member of threshold and you're wondering how that's going to work, the board has approved that as of January 15th, all memberships are going into a suspend point status. Like a floating suspended animation frozen. Exactly.

Buck Rogers, you know, each of them. Boogie, you hit the nail. You're a real number. Everyone else, threshold members have now become fry.

I think I can talk. You're going into suspended animation. You're going to come out. There's going to be a big titty one-eyed chick with purple hair waiting for you.

Sure hope not. It's not a thousand years. What? Hopefully it's going to look like a minute for like a minute, not fry for a thousand years.

I would love to be frozen for a thousand years. Oh my God. As long as I can just say goodbye and I don't have some Jurassic bark shit going on back in home, you saw that episode, right? So when everyone die, okay, anyway, go on.

Okay. So yes, do not concern yourself with that because I've had quite a few people email me and wanting to know in one person in particular because I just joined. Can I have my money back? I just went through our orientation and we closed the door.

I've suffered the thing. So it's frozen. So basically, as soon as either when threshold opens up again here or somewhere else, it starts again and you will just not going to lose anything. All right.

So it's good. I'm not going to play the potato mayhem jingle again. We want to get to talk. I am going to talk about Jesus Christ.

I blame you for this. This is the me and a huge smile and everything. This is me. Now, who does you?

Bob, good. Ha. You. Sloop.

Sloop. Sloop. Sloop. Sloop.

Sloop. Sloop. Sloop. Sloop.

Sloop. Sloop. Sloop. Sloop.

Sloop. Sloop. Oh my god, Lungar. That is some.

Wow. J.J. I just want you to know that that was pretty low class. Oh, all right.

I'm pretty proud of you. I was like, I'm going to go outside to fart gas. That's going to kill. Like, I went outside to fart and a stray dog ran up to me and gave me a card to its vet.

That's how bad it was. That's a bad joke. That's a bad joke. That's a bad joke.

That's a bad joke. Yeah, while you were. You know what I'm going to do? Al's here.

I know I got the text you meant for her. Oh, that's right. Nice. It was all I could do.

You've got to learn how to use it. Shut up! I'm going to do Al's mom's shop and where Al's now also interning. If I get any of this wrong, just go to this mic.

Yeah. And it was great. She picked out this really cool little tattoo and it has a meaning about the roads and her life being all crazy. And then it just leads to a straight path.

It was beautiful. Al did an amazing job. Everyone was completely stoked. You are totally.

Your lines were great. It really are coming along. It's very, very exciting. Nice.

It's very exciting. I'm just coming up here to say thank you. It's very good. I mean, I would love to get once you get to that level to where you can actually not.

Because you're under. There you go. Right now, you're under your mom's apprenticeship kind of thing. She's watching you.

I'm still apprenticing under her, but there's a lot of stuff I can do without her watching now. So I'm getting closer to being at the end of my apprenticeship. That is great. Because what would be cool when we've talked about this is once we get the club back, actually have you do a residency at the club on one party a month and come in and do little $20 BDSM style tattoos.

Yeah. Would be super cool. Yeah. So you're not going to get the big giant tattoos.

Obviously, they can go to your shop for that. But just little things like the little BDSM logo symbol or cat paws. Or the BBSAM logo? Oh, yeah.

You can do just anything that Al can do in like 20, 30 minutes. Something that's like. I already actually started working on a flash sheet before all of this happened. And now I'm kind of just waiting.

But you should still do it. Well, yeah. So I'm probably going to finish it at some point. Just for now, I'm not as rushed about finishing it.

Oh, well. Are you doubting? Are you doubting? No, not at all.

But anyway, it'll be great. And once we get all up and running again, and I definitely love to have you come on the show and tattoo. That was fun. I still love that idea.

I did that on K-Rock. See this big giant one? When I was a DJ on K-Rock, I actually had my buddy Bob and I started carving on me on the air. And it was all cool.

And this is in the background. I'm a bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla. Yeah, it was cool. So you have a probably podcast.

I really should just like right on over my chest, like right in the center of my chest, just say pee pee. Just no logo, no nothing. No. Yes.

Can I please do that? I'm going to do that right on my chest. Go to the side of my face. If you really want to all do it, just run on your head on your bald head.

You're all right. You're all my job isn't to be a psychologist. If you want it, you're willing to pay for it. Yeah, wherever you want it.

I get mom over my butt. Sure. Just two M's on each cheek. I'll do it.

I bet you will. Go sit down. So anyway, so we get the tattoo and it was amazing. And it was a great experience.

We all had a lot of fun. And then we came home. And then of course, because she defiled her skin, she had to be purified. And you know, so we had to do a role play.

And it was kind of like, well, she had to leave. But before she had to leave, she had to be purified. And we do a lot of role play, right? So we got into this whole thing.

And of course, it gets all blasphemous and religious. And Mew is usually like, I'm not that interested in role play. It's not in the corner playing game. She's like, oh, I'm just going to wait my turn over here.

OK, it's good. But she was starting to get into it because it got really cool. So I wanted to up my game, right? So I'm doing this.

And I'm like, well, I want to make it. It was all pure and sin. And she was coming in. And I was the priest purifying her.

And it was really hot and dirty. And I start fucking her while I'm purifying her. And so I'm like, well, I don't know really a lot of Latin and Spanish. But I know a little of both.

And the only Latin that I know is when I, like, 1992, when I was in college, I sang Aave Verum by Mozart. So I kind of remember pieces of that, because it's like Aave Verum, Corpo, Snaptum, De Maria, Viar, Genes, Veripas, Tsumimolatum, and Grücie, Prohomene. So it's like, and it sounds real cool. So I start doing that.

And I start mixing it in with some Spanish, like, oh, Father, are you the mayor? Just hoping, thinking I'm the fucking king, Kathy. Why do you doing that? I'm the king.

And it was hot. And even you pulled off her jammies and said, OK, this is kind of hot. And so I'm like, I'm the fucking king, Kathy. I'm the king busting out my fucking Latin-ish gibberish.

Thank you fucking Mozart from 300 fucking years ago. I'm the king. Everyone was like, oh, that was so hot. I'm feeling good.

Feeling good until I talked to Bunny last night. And she told you what you said. And she said, I'm not saying I didn't take me out of my head space, but you know I'm a singer, right? And I'm saying Aave Verum about 700 times and almost started giggling that you didn't even know the words and you just sang a rant of shit.

And my crown of coal was ripped off my head. Oh, buggy. Now I was so excited because I'm like, oh, I can use this all the time. I can now use this.

I got a thing, you know, because they don't know. So you can just keep saying the same junkie fucking Mozart song and now I have to actually go learn more Latin. I'm telling you, man, you want to be a pervert kids? You got to up your game.

Learn Latin. You just got to learn more Latin. You just got to up your game. You're always, at some point, someone's always going to bust your ass, take your fucking creative crown.

It's sad. Your fault for fucking a college student. Why do I like smart chicks? In my mind, I'm like, get dumb chicks.

Get chicks as dumb as me. It'll be great. No, but no, I got to be like, oh. We got to go for the smart ones.

I like the smart ones. Goddamn it. Oh, I don't even want to talk about that. I kind of want to.

OK, well, I'll talk about one thing. And then we're going to get into some shit. You see that stack of boxes right there, Kathy? I do.

I do. I in them for a long time wonder what you're going to do with them? Six boxes filled with my failed dreams, musicianship. 600 CDs, two different albums that I spent about 30 grand on, both combined.

Wow. And it's like they just sit there. They've been there since, like, 2004. And I'm pretty sure CDs aren't even used anymore.

Yes, as a coaster. That's pretty much like I would love. Oh my god. Do you know how many crafts there are on YouTube you can do stuff with CDs?

That's what I'm kind of stressed. Like what can I do? I'm not going to actually do it. I wanted to send them to them.

I did send like 800 to the military ones. They never made them there. I'm positive. It was like through an elk's lodge or something.

And they're like, oh, bring CDs. And I brought 600. And like, they just, I think they just went in the trash. And so I'm like, OK, well, there was a couple thousand dollars.

Some soldiers somewhere. Yeah, you would have heard. After a thousand, at least one person. You know, just nothing to do in fucking a desert in Afghanistan would listen to it and be like, OK, well, it's something.

They would. But no, just there was nothing. So I'm like, I got to let go because I have to leave. Oh, see, you got to tape down that mic.

I got to tape down the mic stand that I now have. We switched mic stands. I gave you the good one. You're so nice.

So I'm just kind of like, I just wanted to announce. It goes me with the deck. Thank you, Mew. Thank Mew's coming with the deck.

Mew to the rescue. So I just wanted to say it on the show so people could feel pathetic for me or something. And then I'll throw him in the goddamn trash. And that'll be, I'm going to keep 100 of them, you know, because people every now and again do want to hear my crap.

And they were good albums. These were the two albums I actually enjoyed making. I hired some real musicians and they came out real good. So I just got to let go.

That's true. But if anybody listening wants something, send us a self-addressed stamp to envelope. And we will make it. You know, Kathy, that's like going to be one person.

So one person. I'm going to send one. And then I'm going to keep 600 fucking CDs to wait for that magical one person. Calm down.

They're holding the goddamn trash. Because we could use them for a fundraiser. Fundraiser. Fucking what?

Funds. Who's going to buy them? OK, for a doctor one. Delopated.

But I'll just give it to you. I'm going to go. I'm going to be driving my car. The only place I have a CD drive.

I will give you as many as you want. I would love for people to use them for ski shooting, scare squirrels, and trees. Because the light reflects. The reflection.

Yeah, the reflection. I just really like someone just melted into a giant. I made a spanking paddle out of a stack of them. I really tried, but it's time.

The agenda is right. You've got to go on Pinterest. You would not believe the amount of things you could do with CDs. I'm sure.

And then you could sell that for fundraising. I'm not going to get rid of boxes of toys. And anyway. Hunger?

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. No, that's wrong. Hunger. Hunger.

What is this about? A new job. What is Hunger's new job? What's going on here?

I don't have a new job. I told you. I mentioned to Kathy in passing that I was asked to apply at a job over the weekend. Okay.

Is it look good? Kind of. Were you asked by the owner or like the janitor? It was not bad.

It's good sign. And is it local? Yeah, it's just down the street. So you would be able to say that I have a place.

I doubt they pay enough for me to have it as a full time job. And my only job. Okay. So but it might be something in the midst.

I've got to write a I'm working writing a cover letter specifically for them. But part of my kind of twist part of my job history to kind of work for them because it's partially teaching and partially being safe and I can add something else. Huh. A job where you teach and you say be safe.

What is that? Hunger. So so. Hunger is going to be a preschool teacher.

No, it's going to be like kindergarten. No, it's not the two more. Not the two more. No, no, there's definitely a high risk at this job, especially for somebody's clumsy like me.

Oh my God. So like lose limbs. You're going to do gymnastics, aren't you? No, no, no.

Under the gymnastic teacher. So with Marshall being close, I've had some extra time to do things. And I'm in an axe throwing league now. Okay.

And the venues was the one that was talking to the manager the other night. They want you to teach axe throwing. You're going to throw. You're going to.

Okay. Yep. That's our hunger. I'm sitting here thinking, oh, he got another tech job and he's you know, he's going to go and do some programming and manage some new project management.

No, he's going to drink some beer and fucking throw axes. What's the uniform for that? Is that like Viking s a black t-shirt that has the company logo? Is there a name tag?

Tell me there's a name tag. If I wanted to wear one, I'm sure I could. I actually, yes, it reminded me because for League we keep getting to other names. I want to put I want to get the hello.

How do they forget your name? No, the people that there's like 20 people in my league and we've only done two weeks and no one really knows each other. Hunger. I didn't know anyone else in the club, but I knew your name.

Well, that's a. Well, that's a little opportunity there. I hope you get it. Hunger shows up with an axe stuck in his head.

I was on my car right now. Just a good day at work. I got an alley. I got a boo boo boo.

Don't pull it out. I got afterwards. The doctor said it was better to not pull it out. Oh my God.

I'm trying to help you with mental worries. Let's put the logic on the motor. I'm never protected from a King shaming world. Oh, your piece of mind, please know that the author of every post we talk about has specifically granted us permission to do so.

What? Can we make another that like mentioned? Alrighty. Don't help people.

Yeah. Yeah, I think that you read my mind. Oh, how? I thought we were going to talk about that in a threshold update.

Oh, no, yeah, we didn't know. No, no, no, because a lot of people are coming out with all their hate. They've been waiting for a chance to hate on threshold. They may be not even hate on threshold.

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. A lot of people hate threshold. It is great, but you know, people are buttered when people are buttered. That's true.

So somebody wanted to help. We had an issue a few years ago where somebody- A few years ago. It's like around 215. And what happened was somebody who was paid to handle our taxes for that year put an extension on it for their purposes.

We don't have a lot of taxes to pay. So why not just pay it right then? So they didn't, but they put it for a residential tax extension of six months instead of three months, which is what it's supposed to be. So and then went on with everything, everything seemed fine.

And then that accrued. And then three years later, we find out, hey, guess what? You got all these problems and whatever. And it was almost going to be a very big thing.

So our accountant, Lizzie, who's been on the show, we talked about the show, who is fucking amazing spent hours and hours and days and days fighting and getting it all figured out and whatever. So we didn't have to pay all of that. Oh, I remember we were on the board. Every month it was this horror story of how many hours she had to spend on the phone with IRS.

And so she fixed it and has all the records of fixing it, but whatever something didn't get filed right in the fix. So it was the secretary of state. So whatever. So it stayed on on public record as having a problem still.

And some fucking wing nut decided that they would be on FETLife to post a link to this information that had people's names on it, people's real names, who serve it threshold. And addresses. And yes. So that's an official outing.

As far as I'm concerned, I hope that person is reported to FETLife and to be kicked out of FETLife or outing people's person. Whether it's a public website or whatever, the fact that you went ahead and linked to something that has people's personal information is against the service of FETLife. And it is absolutely cause for being kicked the fuck out of threshold. You don't do that to people.

You do not out people's personal information in any way, shape or form. It is not your information. You could have easily have said, oh, well, I heard that. If you really want to bitch, you could say, oh, I heard they have some problems here here.

But when you post that link, you're a dick. Now moving on to our FETLife topic. Watch it, my mom coming back from the grave. We'll be fitting.

All right. This is one that you chose. Okay. Oh, yes.

All right. This is why. The war in peace post. It was somebody called Why Trust Tom Hanks.

I do not understand that name. I've seen it before because why not trust Tom Hanks is an eight-year-old. A lot of people follow the user. Yes.

Which I do. Because people liking their posts all the time. He's a very prolific writer on FET. And this name just follows.

That's why. It's very strange. Well, then please send Kathy an email saying what is the thing of your name? Because she's been bitching and amending on about it.

Shut up, you. I get to bitch if I want to. All right. You just fang it.

It was a good post. What? He just got some stink look. You should.

I'm going to listen to you for the last 20 minutes. You can spend five minutes listening to me. All right. Mr.

Man, I'm listening. I want you to get a perverted podcast tattoo with a pink logo in pink right on your chest. Will you do that for me, Boogie? Yes.

Yes, I will do that for you. You heard that right now? I'll get right on that. Okay.

A nipple? On his nipple. The belly button. A belly button on my nipple so it looks like an onion.

Exactly. Give us something to look at. Come on. I don't know why I started.

I'll get right on that, Kathy. Would you like a check too? Yes. Okay.

Good. How much would you like to check for? 50 bucks. I will write you a check for 50 bucks.

Anything else? J.J. I already got a dollar from you. That's true.

It was a good throw. Okay. By the way, tell anything too late. Sorry.

I was making you feel insecure. This was a long, long post when I read it. I thought, what the hell is Boogie thinking? How am I supposed to dissect this into a few sentences?

It would have been. Literally. If I could suggest there was so much good stuff in the post. Please cut it into four posts for the retards like this.

That literally I was chewing. I couldn't because I got to read the post. I don't want to start talking about someone's post and how great it was. At the end of the post which I didn't read, it's like kill all white people or something.

It says something fucked up. Eat babies. It's funny. I want to know so I can say hate the end.

Neither you know I know because I didn't make it down to the bottom of the post. But I have good stuff all the way. It was really good stuff. I'm going to read just a little bit.

He says you can master 10 kinks and still find three new things to feel insecure about on any given social evening. Kink insecurity is as nuanced as kink itself. There's no one reason why people start feeling insecure. If you want to understand your feelings better, you first need to figure out where exactly your insecurities are coming from.

Two perennial fears plague virtually every newcomer to the kink scene and haunt even its seasoned veterans for years and years. Now Boogie, Jameen and both of you want to attack each one separately. This is number one. The first one he calls the fear of missing out.

In other words, you have to do everything right now because you might never get this chance again. That is a fear I guess. I'm not familiar with that. Well, that is surely.

And I have seen that a lot. You see that a lot with new people because that's like the basis of sub or top frenzy where people are just like, you're so excited that you've been repressed, especially people like me that came into lifestyle at age 40. So I'm like, oh my God, I've been away from this amazingness for so long. What happens if I have to go back to being lame then I want to get it all done now or I have to do it all now.

What happens if this isn't like real? Yeah, it's not going to last that long. Oh, right. The fear that got it.

That actually makes sense, right? So that's real normal. And that's why you have people that are around that say the kinky people aren't going to go anywhere. Take your time, pace yourself so you can enjoy each thing.

Find a good partner. Yeah, because a lot of people will try, which is fine. How are you? You do you.

But when you come in and you try to do everything as quickly as you can, you miss over so many dynamics. You miss over so like, okay, I did in one night I did, you know, it's making fire play this and I negotiated master's relationship on night one on night two. I tried fire play, you know, and it's just you miss. Like how fire play was I to?

Like to. So you miss. You miss all the nuances of those things. And of course, by trying all those things and I don't know, I know we're trying to break this up.

But you can get really insecure in that because the other part of trying everything new is a lot of people feel really dumb when they get here. So they want to do all the things and try to get a lot of experience so they can feel, you know, that they have enough experience to not be lame when they play. A lot of people are very insecure about how they are viewed by the top. A lot of a lot of new people are, I've heard this a lot.

Why do you want to play with me? You know, I don't even know what I'm doing. They don't even give the, they don't even give their partner a chance to explain to them how amazing it is to help people discover those things. It's just that kind of insecurity like, Oh, I'm not going to be good enough.

Right. I can't, I have the almost opposite. It's not a fear, but I have the most opposite approach to things is I want to understand one thing 100% before I move on to the next thing, which actually has its own issues of paralysis because I tend to sit too long on something because I feel like I have a master that's fully 100% so I can't move on. So perfection.

Yeah, actually that's that is ridiculously accurate for me. I don't like that about me. So you're not in this category? I'm not so I don't have a lot to say about it.

I know sub frenzy or any kind of frenzy that a lot of people get when they when they first come into the community. And that's an eagerness just to do it all because you're just so excited. I actually have never heard of this fear of missing out. How can something go away?

Why would you be afraid of missing out? I don't know. I'm going to take a while stab at this. If you have a fear of abandonment like I did.

That's what's going to abandon. What day is there in the next video? If you have a fear of abandonment because you've had relationships that have been there one day and left or everything look good one day and then it went bad the next day or you had parents that neglected you and didn't validate you as a fucking child and torment to do your whole childhood. You know, if you have any of those types of things, you're going to have a trigger towards a fear of abandonment.

And so a lot of times maybe what you do is you try like and that was part of my eating disorder is I was always afraid they were going to take the food, you know, and yell and scream and hit me because I ate so I would hoard and I would try to get all the food and shove it in my face as fast as I could. And so that programming for a lot of people might play into this. I got to do it all now because if I get abandoned at least I had the experience. I just realized I said what, Kink is going to leave.

We're going to leave. Yeah, actually threshold is one day. I was just about to say. I know someone who's like fairly new to the community.

One of my biggest fears was actually that you know, someday it might just all be gone like recently threshold now suddenly just kind of disappearing for at least a while. It's like, I don't know. It's just some weird fear in the back of my head that someday just all the dungeons here are going to be gone. All the Kinky people like if all the dungeons are gone, how am I going to find Kinky people to play with because I don't trust very easily because you have a love lab here that is still up and running and open the ladies.

Really? So let's just kind of looking at you. Look, God, here he goes again. Perman on me.

But your point. Go ahead. I was going to say, I'll never escape that. No, not in my, not in the little lab.

That's the rule. It's like the Medusa stair. I just got to go hide in like a corner somewhere. Why don't you go cuddle with me?

Yeah, that's just a set up. Then I would leave that alone in the audience. I was like, I got trapped the first time. Ah.

It's a good game to play. No, okay. This is all good stuff. Yeah, thanks.

Thank you very much. Shall we go on? Yes. Let's go on to the second point.

The second one is fear of personal inability. The worry that if you're not masterful at doing a thing right now, you will never be good at doing that thing. See, I think I jumped back before. That's okay.

Yeah. Talk about insecurities about your skills or your ability to perform either as a top or bottom. I think that's very normal. And for a lot of people, I just don't know if I have it.

Wow. I'm like, I'm going to watch 20 YouTube videos and I'm just going to go for it. Oh my God. Look, I tapped the vein on the first time.

I'm going to do this again. Oh, boogie. I've done it a bunch of times. I did leg the other day.

That was fucking great. It works. I love it. I love it.

You did what? I like it. I tapped a leg. Well, they didn't want to bleed a lot.

What? All right. So that's a very gross edit that we're just going to go ahead and throw in there for reasons that we'll talk about on another show. Oh, joy.

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