194 Clappie Darko

Hello, welcome to No Plaz, just a clap. We only show that ship talk about our opening before we start recording. I think our opening is that we had a very nice lunch, basically both of us got free therapy, and my apartment building smells like a dispensary on fire. It does.

I might be in contact, huh? That's fine. I put the towel down by the door, which is starting to lessen. Do you want me to turn on fan or open a window?

Is towel and door code? It's not. I'm going to open up the bedroom though. No, no, no, no, it's fine.

It's fine. It's fine. It's not like I like the smell either. No, I kind of miss the smell.

I know. Alright, uh... Fuck the marijuana smell. Fuck it, right to hell.

That's why I'd be all like, fuck Hector. No, uh... So, I can actually not go on a lot that much. No, we did not.

Uh-uh. But we did talk about something from last week, uh, and then, uh, this week, and, just, you know, universal stuff. So, it's being a universal stuff. I keep finding these screws, so I don't know where they come from.

And that's unsettling. Like, where do you thin them? Mostly in the kitchen floor. The cats have gotten smarter.

Oh, they've gotten really smart. No, I don't know where they're coming from, because there's only one thing in the kitchen that would use screws like that, but it's completely all over it. That's not where it's from. A little table I have right there.

Yeah. It's not from there. Well, this is, yeah, it's like a good like, foreign screw. It's eerie.

Which would let it be in high school. Foreign screw? Yeah. Thank you.

That was a joke. Um, a four and a half inch screw. Um... This part's ripped from like, pleasure.

That bit's not. That part's just for me. Uh... Oh, it's gonna be a good record today.

I like E-contact, huh? Yeah, right? Uh... What I'm pissed about is now.

Yeah, the apartment smells like dope. Uh, what are you gonna do? Well, I like that. I like cigarette smokes.

I'm sitting next to you. Thanks, that was sincere. Thanks, not a few thanks. Okay.

Um... I'd much rather smell you smelling like cigarette smoke than with deep jazz, and you might smoke with a black woman weed. Do you want to get into current stuff or stuff in my suite? That's a lot of stuff in Legion since I wouldn't let you talk about it.

So the stuff in my suite. Cool. I watched Legion. Uh, two episodes in.

Um, I don't have very specific notes because I know it did not long ago. It's fine. I waited too long. I had the expectation of one week.

If I wait after that, it's not me. Yeah. Yeah. Like, really should have at least watched the premiere.

I think I waited too long. The fact that you haven't seen it kind of pigeonholes me in what we're talking about, but... It's a very ambiguous timeline. I don't mean that in terms of flashbacks.

I mean, everyone wants to get dressed like the 60s or 70s. But it seems that the storyline is very current. It's kind of a little bit like Archer where everything is style more. It's very...

It's very acronistic. Their wardrobe is very acronistic. Um, I don't know. I don't know.

But it's a while I'm re-quaza and she's wearing kind of a generic outfit. Um, at one point, like, she's wearing headphones. Um, and they look like beats. Yet, once again, like, everyone's dressed like they're in the 60s or 70s.

Um, especially his sister, a Legion sister. Um, or David's, I should say, David Haller. Um, his sister who's played by, uh, what's her name? Um, Jenny from the League.

So it's nice to see her. Uh, yeah, what's her name? I think her name's actually Jennifer. I don't know.

It's not. Um, at all. She's married to Pete. Oh, God, is it, Jennifer?

Not Anna Smith, but it's something like that. No, but she does have, like, a name similar to that. Um, but anyway, um... Is it Anderson?

Something like that. It's fine, but correct. It's not there. It's a bit more of a meaty role.

Um... Something that's not as light, despite the fact that I actually have a lot to do with writing a belief. Yes, but I mean, like, it's not... Legion, it is funny, it has its funny moments, but it's not an outright comedy.

So to have her really bite into this role is really fun to watch. Well, you know, she was always really good on the League. You know, she did have that weird, like, Jackie O, like, bullet haircut. What do they call it?

I don't like all that helmet hair. You feel like not being fond, but like, uh, you know, like... You want to have a popular? No, but like, I'm looking at like, Dr.

Darl Frans. Um, like, what is her hair style? It's called a shag. Yeah.

Like, she has a shag, yet you think the show is very contemporary. That's what it's called a bob. There you go. Sorry, that took me longer than it should have.

But it seems weird. It's very ambiguous in terms of when this show happens. Um, it's all happening in the 70s. Is it April 2?

There's a lot of action movies. There's been a lot of talk about that because it's Fox via FX. Fox needs to make some damn money. Fox is doing fun.

Fox movies is not doing fun. Oh, um, but like, does this tie into the X-Men mythology, the X-Men cinematic universe? Can I see a grammar question? Sure.

When do you say mythos? And when do you say mythology? Um, I say mythology when I'm talking about anything that's like a grandstanding life system. Yeah, I mean, I would say X-Men mythology.

And I'd say... What's the chromatic? I think... No, I think we're arguing semantics at this point.

Yeah, I think mythos and mythology are synonyms. It's the terrible jerepine. They're intrantiable. Absolutely right.

Sorry. We got into this whole thing with cherub and cherubim while I was reading the Elizabeth first series by my carry. Um, and I can't think of a cut to artist. Um, Pete.

I want to say Pete Woods, but I'm not that right. So what's your overall thoughts on the Legion? Um, I... What's in the fact that we're so happy that Aubrey Frost is a since-world girl?

Well, she still could be. That would be Fox because Squirrel Girl is a mutant. Um... But even I loved that joke.

I think it was on crack. I'm so sorry. I turned that off. I was going to say we thought it was on crack.

So it's a little turned on the side, wouldn't you? Uh, the building messaged me back by the terrible near Willa Smell. And how'd that go? Do you want me to read it?

Well, yeah, sure. We may have more stuff in terms of legal precedents. I love that the text will be, we'll get to it. No, actually.

She asked if I thought it was coming from anywhere in particular, and if I had the windows open so it was coming up from outside. No. There it says, no, I don't know where it's coming from, but I didn't investigate. And no, I don't have anyone in the windows open.

Great. I put your phone on the side. Can I finish typing that? Um, what's the biggest timeline?

I think it's super trippy the way they use time, especially in the first episode. It reminds me a lot of the series, 12 Monkeys, where you don't quite know what's going on, which kind of leads me to another point where you don't know who or what is real. And to give you guys some background if you haven't seen it or you're watching it and you don't know where it came from, basically the character of Legion in the comics, in the Marvel comics, it's Professor X's son who, having been abducted by terrorists, develops disassociated disorder, which is mobile personalities. And basically he is the most powerful mutant on the planet, but his power is split between all of his personalities.

So there's one that's still a pathic, there's one that's psychokinetic, there's one that's pyrokinetic. He does eventually get a shit together for a moment and warps reality and time travel, which leads to the Age of Apocalypse. I'm not going to get into that right now, but in the show, basically the character David, Legion, has been diagnosed as a schizophrenic very early on, and there are not only government agencies after him because they go, he's the most powerful mutant on the planet, like we've got to contain him. There are other people who go, hey, what you think is schizophrenia and hallucinations are actually your powers manifesting.

Like, what you think you imagined actually did happen and we need to learn how to control it. That's kind of over-or-conthemed, like every accident story ever though is you need to learn how to control this. Absolutely. Which I've always liked because it's kind of an allegory to childhood, if that makes sense?

Puberty, well it's not a mistake that your mutant powers manifest during puberty. I mean, like, that's the analogy. It's very scary in that. But it's just one of those things where you remember when you're a little kid and you have a hard time controlling your emotions, and then you start going through puberty and the hormones feel fucking crazy, and it's even harder to control your emotions.

Yeah. And so I always thought of that as just, like I said, like an allegory, kind of being a child growing up and being okay with who you are. Because you can't control it and how you interact with your world. Absolutely.

I think that and the allegory of racism I think are kind of core seeds. That's one of those things that works kind of those two things where like if you're a teenager and you're in a racist situation, and you can't control who you are, you can't control how much people are talking about like being a minority or being in a situation where you're being treated. Yeah, I know. And just like a, yeah.

I phrased it oddly. I'm very sorry. Like I said, you can't control your environment, but you can't control yourself. No, you can't.

That's the issue. Yes. You come an adult. Yes.

You run out of control. Like as a change, like, yeah, you can't control these mood swings, these horrible things, and then you get into like a cyclops is a bad example. Because he's boring at Steven. Yeah, but in terms of Legion, like, yeah, like you start like your telepathy kicks on and you're like, oh my God, I'm hearing voices and he gets diagnosed as a schizophrenic, not realizing that the voices he hears.

Yeah. Are not schizophrenic, but telepathy based. So that's kind of the core of the show is that I totally agree with what you're saying. Okay.

Yeah, the whole thing is that like, yeah, like what he views as being early on sets gets a friend like Jean Smart. Yeah, from Designing Women is his therapist. Let that sink in. And she does a great job.

I love that stupid fucking show. And she does a great job. The guy who does Legion is did Fardo show. Yeah, I can't think of the actor Sam.

Because apparently Noah, I believe it's the show. I'm not going to say the actor's name is this podcast. Well, we went for, well, we've said several and you're looking for showrunner named not actor name. So I think it's Noah.

Faley. I'm from that's not right. Is was this was the show on Fardo and Jean Smart was on Fargo and got the Emmy not actually. I think she got the Emmy for that.

That was the one I've cursed and done straight season three was lunch. I didn't watch Fargo. So that's right here. And I love the movie.

I love the come brothers, but the showrunner from Fargo is the guy who's a legion and Jean Smart got the Emmy not and and award. And so when he was working on a new script, he goes, I think it'd be great for the psychologist part. She went, I mean, like there was no she had no idea what it was about. Like she jumped in and went, yeah.

So once I tell the people, you know, click tell the people it's great. Well, I do know if they talked about it, about she's talking about building your crew. You need to find the smart people. I really hands was that her was that any polar posse pants bossy pants.

I just remember the hands. Yeah, because it's picture for her that has the man's body. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I hope that in your head that somehow translated to the book, Lovely is.

Which is funny, she doesn't have issues about her hands, but man does she have issues about her feet. Does she? Yes. I'm going to say about Legion and about the algorithm between adolescents controlling your environment.

You have to be incredibly self-aware and I was probably in my mid 20s before I realized that literally the only persons reaction, I can control the situation is my own. Because other people are never going to react how you want them to react. You know what I mean? Like you can control how you react to a situation which can't control how other people react to a situation.

And you don't realize that until you get much older and you'll have more self-aware. It took me years later and intense third year to realize that. But the only other thing I can say about Legion is that, and I kind of briefly said it before we get on this. If you don't mind jumping off it goes.

Who or what is real? I didn't touch on that early on. Can I talk about actual realities post-your-percession reality? No, no, I don't.

I mean literally who is real, what is real? Because the thing is he views the manifestation of his powers as schizophrenic. Which is something that manifests itself in your late teens. So the thing is, what is imagining that happens?

Is it as power or is it actually imagining that's what happens? You know they say, there are characters where you kind of have to have that whole thing. Bruce Willis thing from six, I'm six, six, I'm six, I'm six, I'm six cents. Oh my god, the greatest follow up full time?

A six element? Yeah, another minute. And Bruce Willis was the ghost of whole time. Holy fuck.

Exactly. Oh my god, that's amazing. Yeah, think about it. I want you to talk about what people get on that later.

Oh my god, that's something I have to explore on my own. I'm going to need you to make a one. But the fact that he has in the comics and seemingly in the show, he has split personalities. So what characters are real?

What characters are not in terms of the horror? So unreliable narrator at best. Yes, let me talk about that out there. Unreliable narrator.

Well, I was going to decide that was a description for like unreliable narrator. That's the whole thing. But Aubrey Plaza's character, did she exist before she effectively got absorbed into his mind? What did she really begin with?

Did she interact with people? I watched it, she kind of does, but it could have been David as her. Because the whole premise of the character... It's kind of a fight-level.

The premise of Legion in the comic is you never know who's the first out of controlling his body. Which powers are you going to have? No, the body of the comic. Yes, who's driving.

So what was it that point, Aubrey Plaza driving? Did she exist? Was he imagining her? There are people during his therapy group.

No, but he's making earphones with her fingers while we're part of it. But when you're watching that, how many of them are actually there? Or is it him alone in a room and he's imagining that he's in a group? So you never really know.

And this doesn't spoil anything. That's the best part. What we've said doesn't spoil a goddamn thing. Well, what I've talked about is...

These things people are chasing him. They could be fake. We don't know. Of course, if I'll let everybody know how to see it.

It's a pretty scary part. Okay. Second of all, what I was going to say is they actually say that imagined memory is stored the exact same way in the brain as actual memory. Okay.

So that's one of those whole things about your perception of reality. The memory gets stored the same way, whether it was you imagining it or it was something that actually happened. Why should I talk about that one about that earlier? Well, let's behold, in the 70s, they know those people who said they had repressed memories of being tortured by a satanic cult as children.

No, that's a thing, Dave. But like I said, what the fuck is real? What the fuck is it real? Well, this show will make you examine that.

Well, that's the thing is you never actually know. I mean, we've all had that moment where you wake up in the middle of the night and it takes you a few minutes to realize where you are and what you're doing and can be more. You're not the dream or is it 10 p.m. Is it 10 p.m.

or is it 10 p.m. but is it 10 p.m. I've done that. Like I said, no, it's one of those things where you're going to be a dream, you wake up and it takes you a few minutes to realize what your reality is and who you are.

What's at the dream, was it? There's that line in the same end about that in dreams, you remember how to fly. Yeah, you just kind of step off the ground. It's the knack of falling without hitting the ground.

That would be, yeah. As you want us to know if it's a real memory or if it's a dream. And he basically doesn't give her answers. Oh, I mean, it wouldn't.

Because why are you on the E3? So that's my take on Legion. I'm digging it. I mean, it's not going to take a guaranteed time.

I know you're two episodes behind. Two episodes is not mine though. You know what they're showing on the side. I think when you watch the first episode, you're going to go, yeah, this is one I'm in.

Like, outside of being a thanks and based on what could or could not be the acting universe. The continuity bullshit aside. No problem with that though. I mean, there's so many things that I think like some weird microcosm of some universe somewhere.

And I can still watch and enjoy it. The stuff with his father gets a little murky. Every time he tries to remember his dad is like, in very shadowed. So, and honestly, I kept expecting like the reveal on the dad to be himself.

Oh god. Yeah, like he sees himself as his father and is not even a professor or an expert. He can't remember either. He's a macophoy or a steward.

It'd probably be steward, right? I mean. Steward's still before it. What talk isn't shooting anymore?

He's just doing promotions for Logan right now. Right. So, yeah. And he owns it.

I mean, he owns it in a different way than I think. He has literally never taken himself too seriously in his entire life. You know, enzymes on the other ships with themselves with blovies or whatever. I'm trying to get a little bit of a blowjob.

No, no. But still, like I said, like I said, I've never taken himself seriously. At least he hasn't in the last 40 fucking years. So, but I imagine like it's in, and singer is one of the executive producers.

So, I imagine it's in the singer universe, which I guess is actually all of them except for last year. Last year? Which was terrible. Right, right, right.

Oh, he's giving him money. Right, right, right. Yes. Fuck off.

He made, uh, oh, no, I was gonna see a kick ass, but I was not even. Right, right, right. Right, right. Oh, yeah, yeah, right.

Oh, yeah, yeah, I didn't see. I'm gonna keep giving him fucking money. Oh, that shit. Oh, speaking of shit.

Uh, did you see Great Wall? No, I heard it massively bombed this weekend. Yeah, so it's fucking terrible. Here's the thing, I want to see it, but I don't want to pay for it.

Oh, no, we didn't talk about this. Yeah, you're right. The funny thing is, it actually did extremely well in China. And it has- Where they have a Great Wall.

We're gonna talk about the Dix on it. We're gonna talk about the Dix on it. Like I said, it did extremely well in China and has an Asian director. I still don't understand why that name was the lead.

Or, you know, why there's a dragon in it? Do you have any fucking idea how much money I would have thrown at it that they had gently as the lead? Oh my god, you're right. That one claw got another machine.

I would have so been in. Gently fights a dragon. Like, there's your fucking pitch. There's the money.

I would have fucking seen it. And here's the thing is that he actually doesn't act much anymore. He's basically something retired. Gently.

Yes. I would still have to crap out of that movie. Gently versus the dragon on the Great Wall. At the very end, Bob Hoskins, I can see G.I.

circa like Rogue One, like puts a collar on him. You're like, holy fuck it. Yeah, like it's all fucking connected, not one. No, it was called the wood.

No, the one was where he had to fight over multiple personalities. I think it was just called on. Like, dog or something. It was like, rabbit or dog or something.

Yeah, or like the leash or something. It was the leash. I think it was the leash. I think it was the leash.

Yeah. Wow, you want to come and look for a movie? Oh my god, we're just, we're pitch machines. But it's just one of those things where it's like, I don't think that David's a bad actor.

I like a lot of the things that he's done. I like the fact that the man is humble and has a sense of humor about himself. Yeah, my diamond. Cat David, the new kid I might get.

But like I said, I think this was a bad choice for him. I can't believe he did it. He wanted to do an action movie. Did he make a gay serial killer movie?

He wanted to make an action movie that wasn't the board. Because he's been doing board movies for what, like eight years now? Oh, more than that. Maybe longer than that.

So he wanted to do another action movie. No, that was, um, Jeremy Hunter. But like I said, he wanted to do an action movie that wasn't the best thing. You would have that syndrome.

We talked about this. It's the same problem behind the kylakey. Yeah, like when you start fucking with chromosomes. Thanks, go wrong.

You don't make a super human. You make a damn syndrome, baby. Like. But like I said, even if it was like, Joe Young Fat, any of the Asian guys from like any of the Fast and Furious movies.

Even some of the stuff from the, uh, who did, um, Crutching Monkey Striking. Crutching Tiger and Dragon and that was John Green Fat as the lead. No, but like the director. Oh, but even if you did, uh, what's his name?

Uh, who did, uh, John Wu? Like, it was John Wu, I'm watching. But the thing is it had an Asian, so like I said, it had an Asian director. It just had a white male lead.

You know, like, it was in the show. Mmm. Oh. Yeah, you go into that with Dr.

Strange, which just came out on TVT with, uh, Tilda Swinton being the Asian one. It was never implicitly implied. She was Asian in the comics. Well, I say she, but you know, it wasn't, she was Asian in the movie.

She was extremely honest with me. It was very Asian. Okay. Yeah.

Oh, I disagree. It was like Tibetan. Yeah. I disagree.

But what pissed me off so much, like I said, is that the whole thing with great wall is that you need the white protector to come in and save you. And I couldn't be like, literally. They blindsided it. Like, you know, my person saved the minority.

Get him a call. Like my blindside. How fast can you run? You know the car?

Don't worry. Sandra Bullock and Matt Damon will save you all minorities. I mean, like, even Jackie Chan is the lead. I would have been more okay with it.

He's done serious roles and he's done well. Oh my God. You actually mentioned like jumping like over the wall over the wall over the wall over the wall and then it's gonna ladder. Is there building the wall?

You're like, just the ladder. Oh my God. I really want to watch first try again right now. And then at one point there was like a cameo where it's like, he's like, we must protect the wall.

Do you hear the words that are coming out of your mouth? Do you understand the words that are coming out of your mouth? Hey, pitch machine. Yeah.

So, it's one of those things where I do respect Matt Damon very much as an actor. This was a bad decision. And not just because that awful man bun. Who does that even man bun?

Oh God, serious man bun. I think it's me in one time. In one time. What is this?

Not at all they call it. No, it's called it. Okay. So speaking to bad pictures.

And I don't mean this when I initially say it. But we'll get to that in a second. I should realize what you should have said. What?

You can have bad pictures. Sorry, I got a kid. Okay. Okay.

Con Man 2, which is. It's like a season not con Man 2. Yeah, I'm sorry. Con Man Season 2.

Which is a series on, I think it's Comic Con HQ. Well, it's also on Hulu. Yes. There are a few things I want to say.

I'm not all the way through the season. I like that he's freaked out by the fact that don't worry about Nathan. I'm not worried about Nathan. Nathan's fully in a way.

Nathan's fully in a way. Nathan's fully in a way. Which is effectively Nathan's fully in a way. He's got the rights to his sci-fi show and wants to make a movie.

Sounds really close to reality. He's fully in another one of those actors like Patrick Stewart. Yeah, well, he got classic Shakespearean training and then kind of just moved into comedy and doesn't take himself seriously at all. And Nathan's fully in like, yeah, he's not house.

Castle. They've done a style. I was going to say he's castle but it's the same thing. We're both going to start doing Shakespearean stuff and then moving.

Brilliant? Really? Canadian Company. Wow.

Even going back to the first season that Ellen Judic's character was the pilot on a sci-fi vessel where Philian's character was the captain. And it will be this led. I think it will be your grave. No, you're...

What did he say? Your son but inevitable child. Which is the first scene. That's the first episode.

That's the first episode. Which wasn't the first... That's a whole other story. Like I said, it's Walsh playing with the plastic dinosaurs on Serenity.

The Fields. But anyway, so yeah, Ellen kind of plays this like fictionalized version of himself. Nathan Fillion plays the other fictionalized version of himself. It's basically the castle as despite the fact that he wasn't the writer.

Okay, so we're really getting to the point. But so that Nathan Fillion has gotten the rights to the sci-fi show Spectrum. Okay. IE.

Serenity. Firefly. Does anyone want to do Serenity? Excuse me.

Yeah. Firefly, the type of ship Serenity was the name of the ship. Correct. But Firefly was the name of the series and Serenity was the name of the movie.

No, but I'm saying that's why I confused the ship. My point. Yeah. I was never ever ever so sure why they named it Firefly after the type of the ship.

What do you mean? We don't call Star Trek a class E space. For app. Yeah, the type of the ship was a firefly class.

I just thought it was weird that they called it as a firefly. Because it looked like a firefly. It looked like a firefly. I just thought it was really named after the class of the ship as opposed to the actual name of the ship.

Yeah, but that's because when you're talking about the name of the class of the ship and Star Trek, it wasn't like they were like, it's disc with two dicks on the end of it. Well, no, they were like class E. Yeah, like they just had military ships. Yeah, I mean, they're both effectively hard sci-fi.

But the class of the ship in Star Trek didn't have like an anthropomorphic name, I guess you'd say. Oh, it was the Enterprise. It was like the Enterprise. Yeah, but calling the Enterprise Enterprise was like, oh, the Titanic.

The Titanic was a freighter of personal, I don't know, I've got nothing on it. Yeah, it was a cruise freighter. But it's like calling it cruise freighter. But it's just one of those things where like you know what it was.

James Cameron presents. Cruise Freight. Beats Ice. And the ice is like all of the bock.

The ice bread voice, but as a cameo, Arnold George the Naggar. Okay, what I was going to say though is you know that a frigate is a fighter. Oh my God, that means John Connor's a Titanic. Okay, sorry, go ahead.

You know that a frigate is a type of ship. Yeah, and a schooner is a sailboat. But it's one of those things where I thought it was weird that they called it like frigate as opposed to its remedy. Yeah, but then you have, um...

Especially if I remember correctly, they didn't run into any other firefly class ships when they were out of class. Well, no, because they were outdated. They make reference to that console. It's like, yeah, it's outdated because they're before parts or like, oh, you don't see those.

Yeah, it's like, oh, they're in a space gremlin. Um, not like AMC. I think about it like that. AMC gremlin, not like Spielberg gremlin.

No, it makes a lot more sense if I think about it like that. The show would be called Gremlin, despite that the car was called Barbara. You know what I mean? Yeah, no, it's a matter of a model thing.

Like I said, if I think about it, that makes a lot more sense. And then, you know, calling it, it's already names like Colleen Christine. I mean, it's not a perfect metaphor, but you know what I mean? No, it's...

The car's name was Christine and the ship's name was Soretti. What's that name? Yeah, no, it... Okay.

I mean, I think it's just one of those things where it can seem particularly distinctive, so I thought it was a little weird. Well, it's like naming something Toyota, and you're doing a show that like, random Toyota cars from the 80s. Or like, naming something Honda, and it's all about all of this. Or, I don't know, Night Rider.

Say it right. Oh, God, how long has it been? Night Rider. Night Rider, I think that.

That's what you're looking for. It might have for some reason, it's always a new week. It's always what? You have to say it with the accent.

Night Rider. Oh, I forgot to tell you. Yeah, don't. Moving on.

It's really good stories about my Eastern European coworkers. Awesome. So, Conman Season 2. I'm so sorry.

Yeah, that's where we went off on this tangent about ships and show titles. We need to start getting paddles in the middle of the paddle, and the other person can't talk to you for the paddle though. Oh, and Doug, look, what it's referred to as Donny, like Wahlberg. Don't worry about it.

Is that weird that I knew that? So anyway, Conman Season 2, effectively Miff and Filiene's character, Jack, has gotten the rights to Spectrum, Red, Firefly. Okay. They're gonna make a movie.

How did they get financing? He's a huge action movie star. Oh, he's independently wealthy. Yeah, yeah.

It's well, it's literally Alan Tudic, compared to his career to Nathan Fillion's Jack. He's not screaming well for himself. That's really not the point. You have to realize that he's...

The character... The character Alan Tudic plays is Alan Tudic, who is not leading man role. I mean, and he said this, there was an old nerd response cast about him who's promoting the second season, where he goes, I've never gotten that leading man role because it was considered myself, or that considered me... Yeah, like I'm always a wacky sidekick, or the guy next door, or whatever.

That's absolutely true, but I remember him in first night, and I remember he fluttered. And I remember Paul Betnysass. Has Charles Which is weird, because I was assuming he was just a thrifter. No, they do have a con that go to S, and that's called the long con.

And the biggest, their SDCC, their set-of-go-com con is called Shocker Con. Yeah, right. Can you just imagine him and the writers sitting around making these stupid fucking jokes with each other and forming them into episodes? Yeah.

So he's trying not to be pigeonholed. He ends up getting locked in a convention hall basement with Lou Ferrigno. Weird. And he performs Lou Ferrigno's musical take of Myse and Men, called...

Do you want to... No, I don't want to get this. You're going to take your hands away from your face, because you're going to put them back there when I say this. Okay.

Hands are ready. Okay. I'm with stupid. I hate you so much right now.

Of Myse and Men musical cult, I'm with stupid. The biggest thing is you realize that somebody casually said that like six or seven years ago, and people have been laughing about it ever since and it finally just made it into a production. Which makes him love theater again. Okay.

And then Lou Ferrigno's shit on the streams. I have not seen... How much production on the streams? The fact that they want a...

More of a leading man to play George. Oh, they want somebody of a little bit more charisma. They want a leading man. But he'll talk to Alan Tudic's character, Ray Niri, for the touring company.

Like, it is, once again, Alan Tudic's life. He's doing very well for me. He has. On the Nerds episode, they talk about why he did comment and he goes, I got sick of people telling me what I couldn't go to.

I'm going to go do my own thing. He turned down a ton of stuff. If you listen to that Nerds episode with Alan Tudic, I think it popped two or three weeks ago. It's phenomenal.

It's actually why we're doing the network. We got to work in for other assholes and want to work for ourselves. Okay, that's not what I'm doing. That's why I'm doing that.

Well, that's why I'm doing that. We're doing the network because I have called you about Sue later. No, that was a day ago. The fact that I said, let's own a company.

Because I don't want to work for assholes and then I started working for myself and realized, I'm an asshole. I'm an asshole, yeah. I'm not an asshole. Yeah, you're a high five.

But it's one of those things where we've heard from lots of different Hollywood actors, men that are incredibly talented and charismatic. And women. But they're saying they're like, I wasn't leading man handsome, so I couldn't get these roles. And you think about it, there's like one in a hundred men that are quote leading man handsome.

They actually make a joke and come in season two where they go, yeah, you got replaced by Hemsworth. Which one? I don't know, they're like 19. There's three of them.

They're incredibly good looking. Thanks, Australia. That's a running gag that they keep getting replaced. That it keeps getting replaced by a Hemsworth.

Oh, I said, thanks, Australia. Well, you're saying that, but you know. Oh, no, Chris is married and Liam's engaged to Miley Cyrus. so I'm pretty sure he has her face.

What about the other one? Oh, he doesn't act. You like a shank flower or something? He's in a camera.

Like he's just a dude. Wait, I break the mold. So what do you do? I'm going to come.

What is your family? One of them is Thor and the other one's Ben and Montana. I would have said Gail from Hunger Games, but yes. Oh, he was Gail from Hunger Games, look at me.

Well, I'm all about JHush, so it's cool. No, he's kind of short. Maybe that's why I'm all about him. I like the guy into the pulley and complex and can save her from toxic wasps.

I don't think he has an employee complex. He's just kind of short. It's not a deal breaker for me, but I do have to mentally talk myself out of it. And that has mostly to do with it.

You mean into it? It's talk myself out of not liking a duty short. Oh, OK. And it actually has mostly to do with my family.

Both my brothers are tall and so is my dad. So being around very tall then makes me feel safe. It's not that I'm not attracted to a shooter dude. I never get into the bathroom.

Well, he said it's not that I'm not attracted to a shorter guy. It's just being around tall then makes me feel safe. Because I associate it with my dad, my brothers. What do you think about when you hang up with me, other than hopefully you're going to laugh?