And I'm gonna put my ass! Stop touching my thing! Stop touching me! Stop touching me!
I'm not gonna care about you anymore. I don't like you. I'm turning this light on too. Fine.
Now I can read. Okay. We're guys ready to start a show! Whoo!
Then let's just start a show. The following show is for mature audiences only. Listener discretion is advised. And if you don't like it, please go fuck yourself.
Watch out! Do you feel your sex life is quite lame? Scared that your desires might be strange? I'm ready.
Come and join the kinky world of play. Perfecting again. Hello and welcome to the perverted podcast. The show where we explore the adventures of the kinky lifestyle tracks and perversion.
Recording live from the threshold lab in north Hollywood, California, in front of our perverted studio audience. Hello, Perverts! Whoo! I'm Kathy.
I'm Lady Salar. I'm Count Boogie and over there is! And on guard. And we are here.
I don't know what surprisingly on cue there. He was ready, man. Good job. Good job.
Oh my God, Kathy. There are so many more people here than were. There's somebody actually sitting in the guest chair. For Friday's show of mayhem.
She's really pretty too. She has Lady Salar's with us. Hello, Lady Salar's. Welcome back to the show.
Hello, Boogie. How are you? I'm happy now. How are you?
I am wonderful, Kathy. It has been such a wonderful week. It's such amazing, wonderful things. Are we going to lie about our lives today?
I think people are sick and tired of going. Are we just going to move on and say anything is wonderful, Kathy? It is. It's a wonderful day, Kathy.
It's a wonderful day, baby. It's a wonderful day, baby. Yes! Everything is sunshine and happy.
Yes, joy. I love it. But you know what was fun? I got to save for our listeners, which is kind of weird because once a month you and I now do a secret PP.5, half a PP show just for our Patreon supporters.
I actually did the first one. What is it last Thursday or something? We just sat here just you and me and oh, I like you're scratching that off of that other part. So what?
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What? I know she did not say that. I'm a snow plow. Take me bad boy.
You did you say it like that? Exactly. She says it. Exactly.
She says it. I will eat the snowman. Okay. The one thing I will say that was amazing is I think I said in the other little show too.
Is there was a waterfall and we're like oh wow we've pulled over. Hey, you're giving away half a peepee content on the regular show. No one's going to have a peepee. There's only three people that listen to half a peepee.
Oh, okay. Lead on. But anyway, the waterfall fell on the icicles and it created splash on the icicles and then slowly cover these sticks with water and they turned into like 50 ice dildos. And so there might be one of the videos where I go, okay, can you go ahead and do it.
Go blow job. And then she sucked off one of the bushes. It was pretty amazing. Oh my God.
I love her. I do love her. She's smiling. I just do love her because that's how she talks.
She does not. You talk like that. Ah, it's a go blow job. I got crazy southern cartoon character.
Food ran to corner. Food ran to corner. Food ran to corner. Food ran to corner.
Food ran to corner. Food ran to corner. Kathy, this is one of those days. This is called acting out by the way when you're a child and you're having some emotional problems.
They call it acting out when you seek that. You and I must be having a lot of emotional problems. And we're just going to act out. So, Laura is regretting ever having come on the show.
She's watching both of us. She's sitting in this very pensive position. Just like with the fingers up, you know, just sitting there kind of twiddling her fingers going, hmm, yes, these are interesting folks at perverted podcast. Because what else do we have to talk about?
I mean, I don't have anything unusual having this week other than you know. You know what I never play? I never play the new potato. No, you don't.
Do you. If there's not a lot of money. It makes her happy. If there's no blood, it's not good anal.
I just realized that we hadn't the only time we did play this was last month and it was this one. So either it's like five others. But it's true. If there's no blood, it's not good anal.
Well, not for everybody, but for certain. For certain muse. Certain. Certain.
Ah, it's a good blow job. Look at that vagina. All right. You were going to talk about wicks.
Oh, yeah, fuck wicks. Sorry. I'm just. So if anybody's looking for our website.
Right now it's down for a day or so because I'm just switching back to go daddy, both of their website builders are equally as crappy and equally as horrible for search engine optimization. But at least it go daddy. I could talk with a guy today. 48 minutes and 35 seconds.
He talked to me and I started the conversation with well, both of you guys sucked donkey balls on your website builders and he said, can we use that donkey balls in our marketing? I swear to God, I have always loved go daddy because you can talk to them and I talk like a human and they laugh with you. Oh, it's a hundred percent true. I go daddy too.
We got so put that same thing. I call him up by a language. They don't care. Those guys love it.
They're like, yeah, Arizona. They don't give up. They don't give up. At least.
And now apparently the new website builder that they have is better than the last one that I have where he's like, that was actually awful. They're discontinuing it. Don't do this. Don't do this.
Don't do this. And it was half and I was still paying for the old website while we tried Wix and I can't even type in perverted podcast into Google and have the homepage come up anywhere. Like it's all like, you know, YouTube's and sound clouds and whatever. So it was all bullshit.
And so I just say, you know what, if I'm going to go, at least I want to go where I can talk to people and they'll sympathize with me. If I say, Hey, this part of your site sucks, they go, I totally get it. Let's not use that. You switch it over and for the time being technically if you type in count boogie.com, it will it will forward you to the old perverted podcast that was on GoDaddy.
Turn it over. Turn it over. No, no, no, no, no, we didn't move on past turn it up. But no, so you can get to the perverted podcast website if you type in count boogie.com.
But for some reason, I got to call tomorrow the DNS. Not that more to people are trying to get away. Well, you know, we do have people. And so, so yeah, so now the guy just said, Hey, just do the SEO stuff yourself, the search engine optimization, go on YouTube, learn how to do it.
You can still put your keywords in your page and stuff like that. So I'm not good at that. And that's why I kind of just jumped to places that were like, Hey, you can bleh bleh bleh. And so I'm like, great, you're quite it.
I told you, I don't know that. So you know it. So whatever. So that's why people are like in droves, not able to find perverted podcast.
On the website, is that it? We're moving on to move on. I never had something. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
I might have had something. Like rush, I'm good, sorry, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good. Are you going to do something today? No, and what is this, the 25th of March or February, 10 to 10 to 30, this is going to be pretty cool.
We're going to do a on show hook pull with owl. Basically she wasn't able to make a last book, I told her, Hey, I know you like doing this. So let's do it whenever you want it. And we will talk about possibly doing on the show, so now we're talking about possibly doing on the show.
That would be awesome. You're going to do a hook pull with her or you're just going to hook her up to the to the hard one or something. Or to my genitals. What?
I'm just saying. I'm the outside of her. For this show. Dude, she just spit out.
She wasn't even drinking anything. And I just saw her spit. I'm going to facilitate. You're going to facilitate.
So we'll talk about it and figure it out. We have a month before we do this. So there's time to figure it out. We were just tonight saying, hey, we talk about this.
Do we want to plan it? I force them into choosing a date. That's right. This will work for us.
This will work for us. And I'll pervert about guess listeners. I understand your headspace and intimacy and that type of thing. That's your deal.
But really, what's that? No, really. What's that? I'm just going to do it all.
We'll be doing that. But I just thought of that. I mean, if you had a female dominant and she had and they wanted to do a hook pull CBT slash, I'm sure that's been done where the female dominant puts hooks in her self or the dominant male dominant whatever and then the male submissive, I guess you could do it to labia too. Yes.
Like you could hook up the labia and then pull labia to something else and then. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, but I've been involved in that. That would be horrible. That would be edge play jump rope right there.
Yeah. Edge play jump rope. You can't give me an idea of hooks on two people connected to a jump rope and swinging it to have somebody do that. That's right.
And then if they miss, if they miss, that's just fish hooks a fly in. Well, he stopped giving. We're talking about using heavier gauge, but not for that, but we're talking about that. Oh, then if someone let it'll just literally yank both people to the ground.
Good. That's lacking. That's not funny. Or we could just light some candles, put out on the table, make sure, make sure, make a little massage, you know, maybe make sure she has some good tea.
What type of tea do you like? Al green tea. Green tea for Al a little bit there and then we'll all just hmm, a lot of the gong. The gong.
You know, you know, you'll get the appearance. Yes. Well, we'll dress. We'll dress.
We'll dress. We'll dress. It's maybe the time that you can't have the gong during a pull. Ah, that'd be awesome.
We've been wanting to do that for ages. One of my, one of my play partners does sound healing and she has the giant bowls and she was teaching me how to rotate. I mean, like $300 bowls and I'm like, I gong and she's awesome. And so I'm like, huh, finally, somebody gets it.
The two of you. Somebody gets it. She gets it. Yes.
Let's move on. Let's move on. Let's move on. Hey, you're missing.
I'm on. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Hey, hey. Hey, hey.
Hey, hey. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Hey, hey. Please know that I have the...
Author of every post we talk about has specifically given its permission to do so even though I can't stop tripping over my lips today. Lip tripping. Lip tripping. Today's post is from CnStars who wrote something called Wounds that becomes scars and she says, we all carry wounds from time to time.
Broken bleeding, gaping wounds that cause gut wrenching pain. Sometimes we carry them for years. So when did my wound heal, when I chose me. My very last real conversation with my ex was not some dramatic fireworks spectacular.
He simply let me down mid-crisis for the hundredth time and said, I'm too busy to be your rock and I never will be. These words echoed for hours later. I have since embraced my new life and I can honestly say I have never been happier. Your bloody gaping wound will heal.
In the end, you simply have to survive and it starts with choosing you. Let your wound scar, then choose to live." That is a wonderful post-caffe. Yes it is. Did you not read the part about the person discriminating against her?
In the post? Discriminating against. Wasn't there a story in there about someone talking about her divorce? There was a lot of different threads in there.
There was a situation in there where somebody, maybe somebody older, much older kind of have shamed her. Yes. You are doing very well for someone in your position. Yeah.
For a divorce. Yeah. Because you know why can't you kids just stay married? Yeah.
That was the beginning of the post and it sent her off and she basically wanted to kick her out from under this woman. It would be amazing. And after hearing that I decided that... Kathy.
I have a response for that. Do you? A little response. Do you want Solaris to have a response?
I don't know if I have the right mic for the response. But our response was Lady Solaris. A long time ago I wrote a song, Fonda and I sang it and then Solaris and I sang it and recorded it. And I think it is very fitting.
We are going to sing a song. It is a long time ago. Everyone just relax. Yeah.
Let's do this. Hey I'll fly to a place with bluer skies. Now that I'm finalized. My divorce.
Bitch. I'll go where I want and I'll stay out late. Without hearing crap from a nagging maid. Now that I'm finalized.
My divorce. Maybe you'll travel to India and learn to give a bath to an elephant. I can super dive and nobody can tell me that I can't. Because you're not around anymore.
You can't trash it about my friends. And I can finally go find better sex. It's true. Now that I'm finalized.
My divorce. Your nasty habits made me sick. I'll go away with this legal trick. Now that I'm finalized.
My divorce. No longer do I have to play the role of your father or mother. And glory to God will I never again have to support your deadbeat brother. Bye bye.
Here's your problem now. I'm going to buy some brand new clothes. Maybe get a tattoo. Or pierce my nose.
Now that I'm finalized. My divorce. It can be scary to be back on your own. But don't be afraid.
You're never alone. Many of us have finalized. I divorced. Come on everyone join in the jazz bar.
I do the top potato doll. I'm going to get up and I'll fly to a place with blue or skies. Now that I'm finalized. My D.
I love that song. No matter what. No matter what song bitch in a walk it tells you. Oh my God.
You got to be you. You got to get rid of that zero. It is actually a surprise. I'm a hero.
That's surprisingly uplifting song. It is my only uplifting song. I like it. And ladies and lads have the lovely boys.
That song was supposed to reach 60% of people get divorced. That was my trigger. That's something people say. They give those shitty little passive aggressive, wow.
In your day you just used to suffer because you were told by some God or society that you have to suffer and live a miserable life and be with somebody who treats you like shit and die like that. Now we understand that that's called wasting your life. Yes. It's surprisingly simplistic what the poster says.
You have to live your life and you give your scars time to heal. And yet it's always amazing to me how few people learn that little trick. You find all kinds of ways of working around it or tricking yourself or sometimes you force yourself to get past it sooner than you're able to. The bottom line is healing has its own rhythm and it will do it in its own time frame and it's different for everybody.
But the one thing they all have in common is that it is a scar. It's going to hurt and it takes time to get over it. I absolutely love when she says I chose me because that is absolutely 100% the starting point of any healing process is that you have to turn around and decide right now it's all about me. You of course have to go through life and adhere to the rules of society and do the things you need to do to get through your day.
That is the one thing that has always accelerated my healing process no matter what I was going to. You've got to always put the oxygen mask on yourself first. I constantly told that again and again and again by many people that it's got to be you first. And because if you're the best you can possibly be then you can be the best for everybody else around you.
And then you can actually be there for somebody else and be able to be present in your relationships and you can be the best for everybody else. And that's the only responsibility you have in life is probably and the most existential statement I've ever made. It's the only thing you have any control over is 100%. Yeah.
Yeah. 100%. Only you. That's the only thing that you can potentially control.
You can't control what happens to you. You can't control shit that happens in the environment. You can't control the other person that you're in relationship with. You can only control you and hope to make a better you so that you can enjoy the rest of your life on the planet hopefully being kinky and perverted.
That's right. So now I'm going to take us away from the self and go back to divorce. Because I've been divorced and you guys haven't. So here's some of the things I want to say.
What's really important is there is a certain amount of truth to everything and I'm not telling people that the second shit goes bad you should drop your relationship and that you should just dump it. Because there are things in dynamics that you don't have a choice. You don't have a choice when you're married and you now have these things called children. You do not get to just up and leave those children.
They are now a part of your responsibility. You chose to have those children. They are now your responsibility. You don't just get to run off to fucking Mexico and explore the world for years and years and abandon your children.
So that is a difference in this dynamic but it does not mean that you have to continue to stand in abusive or toxic relationship. You do have to make a plan however for the responsibilities that you do have in life. So I'm not telling people you know because it's real easy for us to say is where people that don't have children so we don't contemplate that. But a lot of people in this planet have good.
It's kind of true and when they go into that thing of making that change yes you have to consider that and you have to consider the children and you have to consider the things in your work and family and yes those are all considerations but ultimately if it is something that is making you miserable and unhappy it might be time to make that new plan. If it's just the two of you and there are no children or family ties or blah blah blah blah then it is a much easier decision to make. You can separate yourself from that relationship and get away and start anew and deal with your scars and your healing and putting yourself first. I do like the idea of people that do try at least for a while.
I'm not telling people the second it goes bad to leave because there is a lot of magic sometimes when you work out something with somebody that maybe is going bad for a year or so and you guys are at least willing to work on it. I'm not saying that everyone should. Does everyone, you guys with me on that? No I completely agree with you on that.
I mean I've been married for over ten years and has the marriage been easy the whole time? How fucking no. That's why we paid a lot of money to a good therapist. We learned how to be able to talk to one another so that we could get through our problems as opposed to not.
That was the thing was divorce something that was brought up. Yes but when we started to think about it, me personally I'm going to talk for me enough for Kaitlyn. Me personally when I started to think about it it became incredibly anxious because I'm like wait a minute I'm going to be missing all the good times with this person. That's the thing is you also have to take an internal inventory of how you feel about the relationship because yes maybe you want to leave because it's abusive or you know it's just not.
Those are easy ones but when you're just not quite feeling right it may be the relationship it may be something else in your life that you're not necessarily thinking about and so you really do have to do an internal inventory when you're actually thinking about leaving a relationship especially if you've been there for a very long time you know built a life with this person maybe intertwined your finances and with divorce I mean that's you know it's a hard decision to make because then you have to go through all that legal bullshit. Sure. So I just wanted to make sure we had a little bit of a discussion because we don't talk that much about divorce because you know you and I are married. Yay.
So but I have done it and I did I mean I was a Christian when I got divorced so I mean I literally that is considered an evangelical Christianity you're not allowed to get a divorce you have to just stick it out and be miserable to the end because if you suffer you get to go to heaven afterwards so even if this life is shit and misery you just suffer through all the pain and abuse and negativity and then you get some giant reward and that's not real. So that's where I had you have to decide hey wait a minute how much time do I want to give up before I finally go and I know people that have struggled after divorce for a long time to kind of find their feet and get going and that's why there's support groups there's divorce support groups you have tons of people so I wrote this little clever little song that Solaris and I just saying to let people know that relationships and in sometimes long term relationships like marriages that end in divorce after years that is a very traumatic thing and you deserve just like Kathy was talking about you deserve to give yourself that time and to find that support and to surround yourself with people that understand when a relationship that significant does come to an end whether it's divorce or it's just a long term relationship kind of the same things apply divorce tends to be a little more legally intertwining and shit like that especially when there's. Yeah but for some people it can be the best thing opening to the next chapter. Well I think if 60% of people get divorced in America that it's a good thing for most people but what's actually fairly interesting is that the the millennial generation because we've been waiting much longer to get married we have a lower divorce rate really yeah than those generations that precede us well I think also because you get to find yourself that's the thing is like I when I got married I was 24 I had just graduated from college my husband is seven years my senior and so I mean that didn't bother me at all in any way shape or form but thinking back I was still really young and didn't know a lot now I'm going to be 35 in a couple months and there's a lot more that I know about myself now than I did when I was I was in my mid 20s so if I would have waited a little bit longer to get married then maybe I would have been able to have an easier time.
I'm going to get some of this time. Yeah I'll be able to navigate and so I can understand why people in my generation are waiting longer and a lot of times they're not even getting married they're just living together for a very very long time and it's like that's totally cool and fine. One of the reasons why I decided to get married was because I wanted to have that legal intertwined that's why I wanted the gay and lesbian population to be able to get married is because there's a lot of legal benefits that come with marriage. Sure and the station and the hospitals and you know.
It's also if divorce is just a tool it's just a tool that you can utilize to you know potentially close one chapter of your life and open another and so if you can think of it that way that you're closing one chapter you can mourn that one chapter of your life and then begin you know this new chapter it doesn't it divorce should not necessarily impact you and kind of bring on because I know a lot of people I have the connotation of oh I'm a divorce say I'm a divorcee I got divorced I don't want to tell people about this thing. You're a citizen. Yeah it's like no divorce isn't that way anymore don't think about it that way it was it was a portion of your life where you were once happy so you decided to somehow marry this other person and then you decided to close that chapter so that you could meet other people. Yes.
God damn it. I'm going to have anything to say about divorce. No. Hunger is wise.
Hey you know I just realized we never actually introduced Lady Salar and explain what she does in the community and we just jumped headlong. Well she's been on the show before. Like how many episodes back not everybody like a million. A million.
A million. Well Lady Salar what do you do? What do I do when you come here when I do? You sing.
She's a good singer. She's a really good singer. We actually founded and run soap which is the social of age players here in Los Angeles. Yeah.
So I volunteer for that a lot and obviously I've been intertwined with Boogie ever since he's entered the community which has been the most entertaining ever. We've done a lot of videos your foot's been seen around the world. Did you know about that? Yeah.
Well the videos go to YouTube you got to type in like a foot fetish video figure out which foot's mind you got to type in the Turkey video that's where it all started. Go find my foot. Just one it was the Santa video I think there's one of the video. It was the Turkey video where I was holding the camera wrong.
And you just could see your foot and then it just became a gag. You should just put your foot and hide your foot and everything. I think I put your foot on a brick or something. Yeah he's put it in random places in all videos.
You can find all of them props to you. Yeah. We should make it a game. So all the foot fetish guys are like oh I got to find all the salaras feeds.
So that's good introduction. So how do they find out about soap? It's soap-la.org. Does your website work?
Yeah, it's kind of crappy but you know I only got so much time. Oh you should. Oh hey. Yeah.
Oh crap. That's a douche. Such a dork. You know when you listen to the original Rolling Stones track of Ruby's Tuesday, there's a harmony that I tried to get and I didn't get.
That's what I got. Kind of like Wild Horses man. There's just a couple fucking fuck man. Just shit man.
You just listen to some of those classic tracks and how they just laid that shit down without pro tools and they just went in there and fucking did it. They fucking Keith Richards shot some heroin and it's fucking dick and they just fucking. Alright man let's do this Mick. And they fucking just put some magic down.
Every time you talk about anybody any kind of rockstar as you sound like Matthew McConaughey. I don't know how to respond to that. Alright alright alright. It's gonna be good.
I got this little booger here in my finger. I was Jim Carrey doing it in a personation of Matthew McConaughey. Okay I played the jingle. I have no idea what we're talking about.
This is Tamna wrote to us and said I recently discovered PP and you're now my daily company on my way to and from work. I love it. I can ope. I love the show has anyone said that book sometimes sounds like Rick from Rick and Morty.
Oh my god. What is the greatest compliment ever? Season four. Season four.
Everyone just pray to the Rick and Morty gods. Season four. It's coming. Look I am in a life.
I have lived a life of fucking shit that looked good and then it fell through. I will not be associated until the episode airs. Season four. Get on it kids.
Wow. That was intense. He's super into red. I know.
Okay he goes on to say where I come from the King community is not public. There are next to no events and absolutely zero dedicated BDSM clubs or dungeons. As a new person in King I would love to hear more about the play scenes, about your personal scenes or scenes that you remember observing if that's not too much to ask of you. I understand that scenes are personal to people involved but I'm having trouble finding concrete examples of the flows of the scene.
For example, impact scene. How do you start? Where do you go? When do you end?
Now Boogie, when I first read this, I was like I don't understand this question and instantly I put myself in this person's place and I thought if you had never been to the threshold, if you didn't know anything about BDSM or Kink, you would be fucking lost. You wouldn't even know where to begin. I've seen so many hundreds of scenes here at the club that I feel I have a good grasp on how it works but if you don't, you're fine. It's true.
It's true because you have the fantasy and that's how so many problems happen. My first play scene had problems, went this way, worked out but so yeah it is really important and that's why we've talked about that. I wanted to put the virtual reality camera in a room and actually do some BDSM stuff and so people could actually see how these things unfold and once again everything take with a grain of salt it works out different for everyone, everyone's going to have different limits and different things they want to do and ways they want to approach things but there are some basics if you want to have a positive BDSM impacts play scene. There's definitely some things you can do and then kind of grow from there.
Do you agree with me? Absolutely. First thing obviously if you're going to do a scene would be your negotiation and that would be where you guys, you and your potential partner would talk about the things that you're curious about, the things that you might want to try, the things that you don't want to do like is it going to be sexual, is it not going to be sexual, what's okay to touch, what's not okay to touch, what types of things can we use, what types of things do we not want to use and then stick with that plan. We just recently had an issue that we had to help someone through where the plan slightly went a little bit south, not big but the other person spun and it became like a whole big thing.
So be very specific about that and stick with that plan and then go into that plan. You have your little thing of toys, okay we're going to use this little crop that I got on eBay and then a little spoon that I got from the 99 cent store and then I got this I got my hands and then my teeth and then my fingernails and then I got this giant stone sharpened butcher life and I got the kidney dish that I'm going to take your kidney out and put it in the dish and then you know I was just waiting for Kathy to stop me and she just wasn't going to. I was literally yawning, literally yawning and I'm like okay and then you, you know you light the body on fire and then fuck the corpse and then Jesus Kathy at some point you gotta go hey. You're forcing me to divulge a secret.
Hey I tend to tune you out a lot. Jesus Christ Kathy I love people say you guys work so well together. This is why. I'm just going to turn on my Pokemon go right now.
Oh I'm sorry go ahead. I cut a jinx today by the way two of them just so you know. I literally don't know what you know. You know what?
After after we recorded half a P.P. I got in my car and we drove I drove around so that this one over here could catch Pokemon. Yeah like I used to do for you hilarious. He turned into a little I kid you not.
I was not record this so the world could see. Well I was driving. He wasn't a little and I was excited. I was excited.
Oh I was excited. Oh I just got it. Go ahead. I got it.
Kathy got it. Okay me. Check out. Let me do.
I forgot what it was but we were going we were going to start interrupt your instructions on the media some placing you could just pause or skip over this but this is important. This is looking like it so Kathy and I are sitting in this parking lot two old bet farts that just fucking finished our show. We sang as oh if it was great. Patreon only gets to hear it and we're sitting in this parking lot at like 10 at night you know driving around spinning fucking pokey stops on my phone and then there was something that I like didn't know how to do but it was really I don't know what it was like a catch something you were looking at some icon you're like I don't know how to do that.
What does that mean? So Kathy gets in the panic with me and we both. Kathy's like what are you doing? I don't know.
I think I'm gonna lose this thing. It's gonna run away. She's like calm you. So she got into this with me and then we just stopped and we just looked at each other and we went this is what we do on our night out like we're rock stars we should be snorting coke of a fucking hooker that's we're not we're not just saying once you lay on the floor and shove a fish in your pussy for my entertainment we're oh for you.
No one is our after show our celebration our rolling stones fucking backstage is talking on outside of fries look at fries electronic where we can drive around and spin puggy's are new wasn't even there she would have gone with us. Let's go on. So anyway so you negotiated now that you've been negotiated you decided to stick. Can I just can I just throw in this one thing with negotiation because this was one thing that I got questions about during the class is the negotiate because I did a class on a negotiation for soap because there's so many new people that come there and with the negotiation process I very highly recommend that you all are closed and that you haven't already started anything before you're closed and that you're both sitting down you know maybe you're doing this at dinner before or maybe you're not necessarily I'm doing a snack.
So you don't negotiate during the place. Yeah you're having like a bottle of water. I kind of thought it was just assumed that was my mistake. No a lot of people actually got there because they don't understand that.
Yeah that means I so can I put this knife on your butthole. Yes that happens. No it happens. But a lot of people they don't know.
Okay so to clarify. So we're setting the scene. You got to clarify. Yeah.
Yeah close. Yeah close. Yes I'm listening Tamna. Yes and then kind of stick to the plan and also understand that both of you negotiate if you're going to use a safe word fine but if no is the safe word let no be the safe word.
You don't a safe word is really all you need in in a consensual non-consensual scene. Any other scene you should be able to say no or I don't like that or this doesn't feel comfortable and your partner should respect that unless you've negotiated that it's going to be a consensual non-consent all normal language that means stop or slow down should mean slop slop slop. Sloppy seconds and slow down. You guys get what I'm saying.
Yeah it's nice. Okay and then once you go then you can start kind of going in start with light and then just warm up. Start with maybe a little bit of hand touching and okay hand touching sorry I meant touching with the hands. We just sit there and rub each other's hands.
Let's open the book of Mormon now. People got fetishes about that. That's right. We'll just rub.
Yeah start kind of slowing work your way up and then be honest with each other and feel each other out and kind of just let it build and then maybe get into some a little more spanky spanky and then see. Yeah just keep along. There's plenty to do inside of your negotiations if it's just making stick with spanking. Tell them why it's not a good idea to renegotiate.
Well it's not a good idea to thank you Kathy. That's a really good way to do you bring up. It's not a good idea to negotiate during a placing for a number of reasons. The main reason being is some people when they start getting involved in that visceral animal kind of feeling they go into a headspace that people call subspace or top space or whatever.
It's an altered kind of thing where you're in door fins and dopamine and all this stuff's firing. So you're technically a little high and at that time you may be a lot more influenced to say yes to things that you wouldn't normally say. It's like when you're on drugs or alcohol you can't give consent when you're drunk or high so technically you can't really give consent if you're high on your own chemicals too. No but we're kind of saying about that for like people that are fairly new playing with each other because I can tell you that the scene scenes that I've had with people that I've known for five years those are definitely going to take a excellent point.
This is about a new video. It's a brand new. You've met. Yeah.
You're either new to the scene or you're back to like one of the things that I believe it was Kaitlyn that said is that you should you should leaving the scene feeling like you want more is actually a good thing. Because that means that both parties did not push the envelope too far. And so you do want to leave the scene wanting like hey I could have taken it a little bit harder. I could have done that for a bit longer time period.
So you do have that feeling of wanting more towards the end. Kindergarten theory. Yeah. Stop the game at the peak of the game so the kids will want to play the game again and not charge you with rape.
Correct. I learned that. I learned that when I had child psychology. I didn't take a lot of units for that.
You know what I was just wondering? What? Why I'm so goddamn sexy. No that is not what I was wondering.
Because I could see you looking at me. You are just in your own way. Yes you are. Yes you are.
I normally we hear Della owl just wane in and I thought why are we here for them? Because they fucking mics around here. Take this mic back. They don't really have such good things to say.
Well while we're doing the mic thing can I say one thing too? What is the person's name? Who asked the question about? Tamna.
Tamna. Tamna. I know that being in the rural area like never seeing a scene they're not really super accurate if you watch them through pornography sites or anything like that because they just all of the sudden start and stuff starts happening. I'll describe just one scene that I've had in my experience that started again.
It started with the negotiations when he was saying kind of laid out some of the tools so that the because I'm a top that the bottom could could see so that they could you know say yes that one's okay that one's not okay I'm not comfortable with that but yes yes yes yes yes. So after I had all the tools that were of my disposal as well as some rope because bondage was okay I started by for me music always drives the scene. For some people it's rock for other people it's rap for some people it's electronic dance music for me it's industrial electronic dance love it music for me helps set the scene helps drive the scene I put the music on I a lot of times will put a blindfold on somebody so that they can they can kind of get more into their head and not have to worry so much about everything that's around them. I'll start by slowly touching them like he was saying you know just running my hands over their body so that they can feel me so that we can kind of get into the same groove then I'll start by binding them and then maybe I'll start doing some sort of impact play with light instruments after I've done a little bit of binding constantly checking in with the submissive the entire time and then just kind of having the scene unfold from there sometimes scenes can last 20 minutes sometimes they can last three hours I've had lots of different stuff happen in between sometimes I'll change position because the submissive doesn't want to be standing they want to be laying down you can do this in a bedroom you can utilize the bed you can utilize sofas you can utilize the the arms of sofas massage tables are like a hundred bucks on eBay make sure that you have one that's weight rated properly because I've had my break before but you can you can use massage tables from eBay so that's impact play by the way go from relaxation to head drama well luckily it didn't it didn't drop it just kind of broke the bottom portion so we glued that back up it's fine but but that's kind of how I tend to set the scene that's how my scenes kind of go through and so then once you finish your scene then there's this part that we call aftercare where you take somebody down now aftercare can be different for everyone some people like a lot aftercare some people don't like a lot at all or not at all they just want to be checked in on and left alone so that's also something you talk about in your negotiation and if the person says I don't know then say afterwards is it okay if I put a blanket on you or is it okay if I you know get you some some drink and you know maybe piece of chocolate or something like that and then you can negotiate that too and then that after time is just to kind of just be calm and let everything kind of settle all the chemicals and recumburate themselves and then that's a time to just sit and it can be cuddly and very petty and sometimes that's actually the stronger amount of subspace yeah that the bottom will go through is during that aftercare because all the intensity is now over and it's just that that oh and then they just fly so that's why it's very important to be there for that person if somebody is very loopy in space you don't let them drive for about an hour make sure they get something to eat and then there's the double secret important aftercare which is the check in make sure if they're don't live with you or whatever make them check in when they get home with a text or something I got home and then insist on a call or something the next day even if it was a light scene I always ask people to check in with me just can you just check in with me if you're having any feelings because even something little can maybe especially with somebody new it can set something off in them that they're like oh I shouldn't be doing this or I'm a freak or this was wrong and you really want to be available for that person the next day to answer any questions or maybe it's a week from then you know so I usually try to check in the next day and then leave open to them hey if something comes up because maybe somebody talks to them they're like oh I did this amazing scene and then they're like you're a freak you're wrong you got raped you know whatever and then they have feelings and so you know once you play with somebody you kind of own that placing for the rest of your life so be available that's very true and I will say from my perspective when I've played with people have had either two separate experiences when I play with somebody that I know that I've taken my time to get to know them it is much more comfortable for me and much more rewarding those are the times that I can point to and say those were some of my best scenes when I have played with someone I who I've either met that night or who I know in passing but don't really know that much about I find it to be much more awkward personally awkward difficult to maneuver through the scene and not that much fun for me frankly and since I'm somebody who likes to take my time getting to know people it's difficult to find play partners who are that that have that level of patience and enjoy that getting to know each other as much as I do so there's also that to take into account is that it's okay to feel awkward when you are negotiating and playing with somebody particularly if you don't know them that well or even if you've never played before it's something that's going to happen and if you're some I mean like I've heard Boogie talk about his scenes where there are times where he just meets someone that night and he goes in and he has a time of his life I can't honestly say that I ever see myself doing that it's just not the way I'm wired I like that everybody is doing that see I like the distance I would much rather have somebody that I actually don't have a super close intimate relationship with I like the distance because I I like to objectify so if I like you and you're close to me I don't like to objectify you so if you're far away and you're brand new let loose me thumbs up so see time and there's like we got three people on my chair and there's a lot of there's really no one way to do a scene okay yes okay how do you approach a pleasing I with with caution and care and I keep my distance and respectful as I watch damn you know that is an answer and I believe you to a point when I say point I mean going on that's how I'm going to approach sure and then but once you get the go oh if I'm in the scene oh my god I told you guys you know well you kind of what's going on chat a lot of random talk about caning good painting is good gaining is amazing making videos of caning and making videos of fire stuff yes I want to do more of that free to we just need to put and now there's sites because I've always had the conundrum obviously I can't put it on YouTube and then porn hub is a little you know how does porn hub work with kink like I really wish we could make more like a real little place scene and put it on something and then offer it to our listeners is like here's some this is this is a little scene and just you know start to finish 25 30 minutes and so I got to figure out a place where we can actually load that and have it be reliable and embed that and not go to jail in certain countries and stuff like that you know what I'm saying yeah so tell you tell that discord group we're into that all right they'll hear it tomorrow it's true but you can tell them tonight you guys have anything to add anybody in the audience nobody oh wait here we go I'll have something to say yes Al this is right okay am I good yeah you're okay um he's had blocking you know well I guess the one thing that I saw that I've seen people do that's really helpful for the negotiation part at least is to whether you're topping or bottoming is to make a list if you're a bottom like a list of things that you want to make sure you remember to tell people or you're topping like a list of things you want to remember to ask people like universally like a change depending on the scene but like a universal list of what you want to ask people is what I've seen yeah there's no wrong with that and you can make that list sexy and that's something like I wish we would do in more dungeons to have that available and that may be something that we push for is to have that little clipboard there with a basic negotiation thing because yeah sometimes when you're new especially you don't have the sometimes when you're old and you've been doing it a long time you don't have that that order of things and sometimes you miss some things and you can make it sexy I mean I've known people that have like said we're going to make this list and if you're the bottom I can put you on the ground and literally put a foot on your back and then check off the check board with what you're interested in and that's still pretty goddamn DSE and it's sexy you know or I can put you you know somewhere in position to where there's a power exchange and now okay how do you feel about flongers great great so there's ways to do it some people say oh it takes away the sexiness and it's lame and it looks really you know I don't forget what the word like an office or something you know and and I think you know use your creativity and make it work you know the bottom line is is you're trying to have a positive experience with someone and if making a list helps you both feel comfortable that you're doing your best because shit can always go wrong doesn't matter how much you negotiate or or whatever stuff can go sideways but you know the more you prepare I think the better off you'll be I think that is going to be the expansive answer we've ever given I think what we've given pieces but yeah yeah it's pieces of it because it's kind of hard it's it's a very difficult thing to actually verbally explain a scene and what it looks like absolutely reach out to me if you are no bottom persuasion and I don't know what you know I was gonna also add that I normally like to also kind of pitch the question of where do you want this scene to go and also frame the question of this is a safe space there are no wrong answers sure because both people might not be afraid to say what they are or don't want especially newbies they're like they don't want to be accused of being too light or too hard yeah no right now you can't say nothing wrong what you want very good very good very good very good point to add damage what's next are we gonna do it wait are we gonna wait wait wait wait wait wait here's a let's do this last so we in the show with that good is that okay is that okay go for it okay because then we'll go into do you have it at home what yes I do do you have the prize the prize is at home ready to be nailed the prize the one boogie give us the scoop so last week I 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to it there it is that's better as she lay on the forest ground the grass cool beneath her bare bottom red couldn't help but think to herself grandma is going to be so angry with me she was definitely going to be late now but what did it matter the wolf had eaten all the goodies in her basket and when all that was gone he had a smile wolfishly at her and said now what do you have in that basket little girl before she had time to even wonder what he meant she was on her back skirt flipped up and legs in the air that mean old wolf then ripped her panties off and she felt his heated breath on her pussy seconds before beginning to lap up her sweet juices she squirmed and moaned every time his long tongue found her clit and although it felt great she couldn't help but say oh do please hurry I'll be late for grandma's hold still the wolf barked his course pause grabbing her hips to hold her firm why do your paws have to be so rough she whined he looked up from between her legs and grand a 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