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EPISODE · Sep 27, 2025 · 1H 3M

197. Internal Engagement or Disconnection? Working with Types 4, 5, and 9

from Enneagram at Work · host Enneagram MBA

Before we dive in: Most of our work at Enneagram MBA is rooted in the Awareness to Action model developed by Mario Sikora and team. But from time to time, we like to explore other Enneagram approaches and insights that come up in the workplace and coaching conversations. This is one of those episodes, so you may hear some differences from the ATA model we typically use.In this episode, D and I wrap our stance series by exploring Types 4, 5, and 9, the so-called “withdrawn” types. We unpack what “withdrawing” actually looks like at work (hint: it can be deep engagement happening on the inside), how each type’s strengths show up on teams, and where friction tends to arise under pressure. We also share quick, practical “stretch” moves for each type and reframes that managers can use to turn perceived quiet into powerful contribution. What You’ll LearnWhat “withdrawn” actually means: the difference between internal engagement and disconnection, and how to tell which one you’re seeing.Type 4 (The Visionary): depth, authenticity, and storytelling superpowers, plus the pull toward what’s missing and how to re-ground in action.Type 5 (The Strategist): the “quiet genius” who protects limited energy, leads with data, and benefits from defining “enough information.”Type 9 (The Consensus-Builder): the calm bridge-builder who sees every side, along with the risk of fading out or numbing when things get intense.Adaptive vs. maladaptive (via Awareness to Action)Pairings & chemistryQuick Stretch Practices (Try These This Week)For 4s: Notice when emotion is pulling you inward; name one next action to move your insight forward.For 5s: Decide “what’s enough” before you research; share work-in-progress to invite collaboration (even if it’s not perfect).For 9s: Speak before consensus—offer your “current take” and say you’re open to revising it.Reflection PromptsWhen I’m overwhelmed, do I retreat into feelings (4), thoughts (5), or comfort/peace (9)?Where’s the line, for me or my teammate, between internal engagement and disconnection?What’s our re-entry plan after someone steps back to process (time box, next touchpoint, decision deadline)?Resources & Next StepsBring this to your team: We’re already booking year-end closers and 2026 kickoffs. Explore workshop options at EnneagramMBA.com and invite us in to blend theory with your team’s real dynamics.Say hello / suggest a topic: enneagrammba.com/contact... I’d love to hear your 4/5/9 stories or questions for a follow-up on trust and the Enneagram.Book D as a speaker for your conference event: Check out potential topics here.Book Sarah as a speaker for your conference event: Check out details here.Have a request for a future episode? Drop a text here! 🗓️ Book a Guided Enneagram Workshop for your team retreat at work:https://www.enneagrammba.com/enneagram-team-workshops✏️ Get an overview of all nine types inside the Understanding People at Work Cheat Sheethttps://www.enneagrammba.com/cheatsheet

Before we dive in: Most of our work at Enneagram MBA is rooted in the Awareness to Action model developed by Mario Sikora and team. But from time to time, we like to explore other Enneagram approaches and insights that come up in the workplace and coaching conversations. This is one of those episodes, so you may hear some differences from the ATA model we typically use. In this episode, D and I wrap our stance series by exploring Types 4, 5, and 9, the so-called “withdrawn” types. We unpack...

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