2 Frans w/ Nathalie Morris star of Bump

The Frans in question are Fran Lebowitz and Frances McDormand. In movies about places, one a seven part ode to New York and its cynical icon by Martin Scorcese, the other a tone piece about desert living by Chloe Zhao. We also interview Nathalie Morris about Stan's Bump, and wonder if W Magazine knows the meaning of resourceful cinema (we recommend they ask Lucie McMahon). We also discuss Michael Apted's legacy i.e James Bond featuring Denise Richards and Garbage, not the 7 Up series.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.