2. Holy Erotica and Shaking off Shame After Religion featuring Nathan Novero

In this week's episode Charna talks with Nathan Novero, ex-youth pastor, and the genius behind the seminal work, "Holy Erotica." Together they touch on a variety of topics that intersect between religion, sex and shame. Nate speaks candidly on the topic of expectation versus reality in a relationship that's influenced and guided by the church. Additionally, he interviews Charna about her drastically different upbringing, growing up in hippy, addict culture.