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It's Tiny Tunes Tuesday. Oh, we're gonna try to pop us out today, huh? Hello, and welcome to Tiny Tunes Tuesday. All right.
Busy day. Got up around six, and it started crocheting and seeming and puzzling, and then you got up, and then Izzy got up. Oh my gosh. Doctor of the appointments back home doing this.
Bubble up. I'll be rushing off sometime later today. You're rehearsing for your show, what is today? Today's Tuesday for this Thursday at the Drake, and I was her junior.
Doing our first Without a Sound Complete album show. It's like I go and continue to ingrain the songs into my brain. I got more brain ingraining to do. So what's the anniversary of that one?
Well, 30th, probably. Is that also the 30th? What is happening? Everything is 30 years old.
Everything is called Without a Sound, Dinosaur Junior. And the other day, we were having a really nice, we were doing dishes as we constantly do. Don't we all? It's endless.
Anybody who gives a fuck is doing dishes all day long. If you don't give a fuck, you're not doing dishes. But we give a fuck. Yeah.
So we're doing a lot of dishes, but we were doing dishes the other night, and we started to listen to music. I don't know why, what was the impetus behind this? I don't know. We were doing dishes together, and then for some reason, you just were like, I want to listen to this album, and you put on Wilko's AM, and which is their first album.
That's their first album. That's Wilko. Yeah. And we listened to it from front to back, start to finish.
And I'd often like to say that I love that album when it came out. And at the time, it wasn't like, it wasn't embraced. I'll put it that way. There was a lot of anticipation around the breakup of the band Uncle Tupelo sent to Ripples throughout the indie rock scene, and because the band had become quite powerful.
I mean, they were a powerful band. They were kind of this country punk band. And I'd heard their early recordings. They were punk, there was that song I played for you recently.
I know. I guess they've been kind of on our mind, lady. I played, I played Uncle Tupelo. I'm like, well, there's, they had this song called, I was drunk and I fell down.
And I played the song. You're like, what? And you've never heard it. It was so funny.
Yeah. You were, you were, I would say semi-immersed in the Americana scene living in Minneapolis, which was really, it was a hub of the burgeoning, do you hear me say that? burgeoning. The burgeoning Americana scene, which seemed, it was a, I was saying, Minneapolis, Chicago, these were places that the bands that became known for.
We cradled that scene. We held it up. We loved it. And we showed up for it.
And initially, Americana, like to me, it kind of came out of like a punk scene, almost and kind of similarly to Dinosaur Jr. It was like kids that were into punk who were kind of expanding their musical horizons. But in the case of Uncle Tupelo, they were expanding it towards a more country flavor. Can we talk about all those different connections actually real quick?
That's interesting. You said that because you're, you're right. But I would never have known or even thought about that connection, you know, myself, when I was listening to that music. But Jay always describes Dinosaur Jr.
right as ear bleeding country. Somebody just, oh, he did. That's right. Jay did.
Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Yeah.
He calls it ear bleeding country. And I don't know if he liked Uncle Tupelo, but I'm assuming maybe he did also. Who knows? Well, I'm kind of in the wake of Dinosaur Jr.
Right. But I mean, you guys are all kind of in the same sort of thing. That's all I'm saying. We were in the same studio.
You were in the same studio. But what happened is two very different sounds. So like, you know, there's the Dinosaur Jr. So you guys went from like Deepune to Dinosaur Jr.
You know, and then I don't know what Jeff Tweety did before Uncle Tupelo if he played in a band before. But I'm sure they had a punk band. I'm sure. So that's what I mean.
You know, he maybe he was in like a punk band then Uncle Tupelo. So like, you guys went different paths as far as like sound and genre. Although early, Uncle Tupelo, they were a power they were a power trio. Okay.
Kind of like a kind of a post Dinosaur Jr. Power Trio. Husker do probably was an influence for them. I would say.
I would say. So I mean, there's like kind of this cross over, right? Between sort of a country sound and almost a punk sound. Yeah.
And we definitely had our first show. The first one of the first Dinosaur Jr. shows was opening for a band called Jason and the Scorchers who were kind of a college rock country punk band. Okay.
Like they were cowboy hats and they played this. So the country country punk was actually a big part even before hardcore. There was bands in Los Angeles like X, this man X who were kind of they were a big kind of early Americana. Really?
Before the name Americana was stuck onto it. But I would say that too below, they did that record called Anadine which really kind of galvanized this thing. And but I was kind of curious because I was not a huge fan of Sunvolt. So basically what happened is Uncle Tupelo had these two main people right?
J. Ferrer and Jeff Tweety and then they split and did their own projects. One was Sunvolt. The other was Wilco or is they both are still alive, I believe, to the say these bands are fruitful and moving around.
So I went Wilco. But you went Wilco. Right away. I was like, I really like I heard the record.
You turned toward Wilco. And I went to see their first show in Boston and said hi because I kind of knew Jeff Tweety just from the scene, you know, Lownjacks and Chicago. There was you know just the scene, the indie scene. So I kind of knew him went to see the show, really loved that album.
And you know and Wilco of course they're huge and we we say that they're lost. We actually slept Izzy and Adele and I all slept at Wilco's loft when we needed a place to stay in Chicago which was great because the hotels were like 700 dollars a night. So we slept in the bunk beds at Wilco's loft. That was a really incredible experience actually.
That was really really nice. And so and that was after we had seen Jeff Tweety play a social. He played a social. I feel like I feel like I you know we did stay there because I basically said to him I was like, well do you know when you were to stay Jeff in Chicago?
Because Chicago and boy I wonder where we're gonna stay and he's like, oh you can stay at the loft. Oh my gosh. I kind of put him on the spot. Sorry about that.
So anyway I have to play Uncle Tupelo for you a couple of weeks ago when we were heading out to Boston because we had that time together in the car where we're playing music for each other. So again we were having this, we're doing the dishes, having this wonderful musical conversation and then playing songs for each other. I'm like, damn it I want to listen to that way. I'm gonna be playing it and holy shit.
It's better than I remembered which is I gotta say that surprised me and not only that but that I knew solidly like half the record. You know like I'm like I don't remember this tune but at the time Wilco was not embraced the way that Sunvault was. So I've always had a little chip on my shoulder about I was there. I was there.
I was getting I supported Wilco. I want to say something about that where you're saying that there was um like a split in the scene where people were either Wilco or Sunvault right and you're saying that Wilco wasn't as well received AM. Right that's your perspective I think as a musician who's ten years older and is intimately in the scene right for me as just a listener when it came out. I didn't know about those things.
I wasn't reading reviews you know what I mean? Like I didn't, what do you mean? I just I just remember like it just it's almost like it just appeared you know the the CD just appeared. You were a sweet little fan.
I just liked the music right and so next thing you know I'm holding like a CD from you know Electric Fetus in Minneapolis and I've got AM and I mean I don't know if that's where I bought it but um you know why not and uh anyway so I just really liked the record I listened to it a lot and I never really thought about Sunvault or Wilco. I listened to both um I like to draw lines. I liked it a lot. I liked it a lot.
It was you know that was 30 years ago so I was kind of immersed in the scene in my own little yeah I had my jealousies. I had my I was actually becoming very jealous of the Americana scene. I was like uh well you know you put some slide guitar on it now you're Americana and there was sort of this this implication or this there was you were it was imagined that you were more legitimate and more genuine because yeah that's true and I kind of felt like you know like I'm genuine too. I'm Americana you know I'm like you know but you know whatever.
So then okay we were listening to AM we're like damn and so I just really liked the record and I thought it was interesting that you were saying oh this wasn't as well received blah blah. Oh it says it and it went to PDU too. Oh why didn't look I didn't look that up but so I uh was driving down to was it hadley yesterday and I just was listening to the album again and man this song that you're gonna sing I was just listening to it all of a sudden I became completely overwhelmed and was crying and there's one line in the song that after you sing it I just want to talk about how you can hold on to a line that you don't know why but it just gets you. Oh since we didn't uh tiny twins Tuesday guy and many music Monday guys they're I think they're on strike so they didn't announce the show okay um but the concept of the the show today is songs that make you cry they have made us both cry in the last week yeah this one was mine um and then the other one was one that made you cry the other day.
So what's this song called? What is it I thought I held you? I thought I held you. Oh it is gosh oh my gosh guys.
How are you? I don't know again about the names of the songs let's see her hooked here. I thought I held you. I really like the guitar on that album too by the way it's so nice.
Don't make it turns on that album. I thought I held you. There's there's really really nice uh I like the way that records sound. Very partial to the production on the record.
I like it too. Yeah so I thought I held you from Wilco AM 1995. I held you. I thought I held you.
I'm like a songwriter. You're the reason that I've run out. Run out of metaphors and I don't think you even understand. I thought I held you.
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So my line in here that kind of you know grabbed me by surprise yesterday while I was driving and the song was on and I'm listening moving along and all of a sudden I hear it and I'm like oh okay um I don't think you even understand the way that he says it it's so I don't know I just well that's it yeah right trying to say is like I'm playing the song I'm not I'm not gonna make anybody cry my version but I don't know maybe you won't and uh the song I'm gonna play um you know I initially when I heard him like oh I was like I love this song so much are we gonna should be just oh yeah I just wanted to say the last thing about this song is that looking at it how simple and it's like just a poem you know it's like someone just handed you a little poem what a beautiful first line you're like a moon that's full so that was lovely and uh so yeah the next song Lou uh was listening to Adrienne Linker yeah I've listened to her before I'd actually loved a song called Angels yeah like this is interesting so in a couple of years ago I came across this song and I'm like who is this person I had no idea uh-huh and it was just this one song and I listened to it like a lot and I played it for our oldest and had a very emotional experience playing it for her but um it's not the song I'm gonna play but I recommend anyone looking up the song Angels by Adrienne Linker um and then I had actually I'm I know the band Big Thief as most uh you know music fans do at this point um I'd seen them play that only very recently did I make the connection that Adrienne Linker was the singer for Big Thief I didn't know I thought that this I didn't really know that either I didn't make the connection at all and so I'm not I don't know that much about that band actually so I mean they're I you know saw them play some play festival I've had people play their music for me I've heard music like in shops I like you know they've been they've been a presence for a few years now and um I think she played locally kind of recently and I think I think Jay might have went to the show because maybe Jeanette too I think our song Jeanette went yeah that sounds familiar Jay was playing the record in his house when we were we've been working you know and working on uh without a sound record so he was listening to a lot of Adrienne Linker so the other day um it's so funny when you have the world of music at your disposal how sometimes you're like I don't know what to listen to you know weird like but it's truly too many choices too many choices but I'm like oh I should listen to the new Adrienne Linker record uh-huh that Jay was listening to so so I put it on and I heard this song that I'm gonna play and I was like oh fuck like it was like damn like that's a beautiful song and I listened to it again I played it for Izzy hoping Izzy would would let me play it she didn't but I was like maybe she will because it's kind of a it's a real it's kind of a real pop song structure to it and I thought um maybe it would uh hook Izzy it did not but then so then I played it and listened to it for a third time for you and I just started crying I'm like oh god um because there is actually there's a verse in this song that's very personal to me and it's kind of a rare when I hear a song where I'm like I personalize I'd say that's very rare especially now that I'm old and complicated and crusty you know when you're a kid you can kind of throw yourself on you can project yourself on to all kinds of things but um I was um this has been this was a rare occasion so I'm gonna I'm gonna play the song and and I remember I had the fire I was like maybe I should cover this song I'm like no I shouldn't cover this song because there's no way that I can ever but I'm just gonna do it because I just don't worry about you just yeah who cares just do it because you enjoy it you know yeah exactly yeah until I'm brave enough to call you I just fall through every time wish I wait when I saw you but I just watched you passing by so much coming through every other two can get enough of you you come around I'm ruined you come around I'm ruined you gave I've got nervous again you gave me no answers nor asked me to lie you just gave me an amethyst from your jeweled vest as you cry so much coming through every hour to can get enough of you you come around I'm ruined you come around I'm ruined so much coming through can't get enough of you you come around you come around I'm ruined you come around I'm ruined we share in the basement as the firm bent to the window and as we drew to alignment as the water soak the pillow so much coming through every hour to can get enough of you you come around I'm ruined you come around I'm ruined so much coming through every hour to can get enough of you you come around I'm ruined you come around I'm ruined so much coming through every hour to can get enough of you you come around I'm ruined you come around I'm I was hoping I could play it through without fudging anything really it's okay it doesn't matter it doesn't matter it's a beautiful song I love this song oh god the recording is great recording is incredible actually plays she plays it on piano and it's got this relic a little to it and then when and then the line I'm ruined becomes more of the music starts to reflect that feeling so it's a very sad song it's almost like a song of unrequited love it's very um but I the last verse of the song is like you know we shared in the basement as the firm bent to the window is our first night together the first night that we spent together we were in the in a basement we were literally in a basement and I don't know if there were ferns there but it I feel like there was a side window yeah and the reflection in the shade and I had and we had this intense night we slept together like me when I'm saying we fell asleep together we fell asleep in each other's arms for the first time and uh and also with the fern imagery like I had this idea it wasn't it was cold right but I had this feeling of like almost being in a rainforest you know when we were together I had this real feeling of like as if we were like in almost like behind mosquito netting we were on this like a cot somewhere and I was hearing tropical birds and you had this you were asleep on my chest and you woke up and had this I had a dream yeah do you want me to share it? I don't know um I mean it's not it's I yeah I had well it's not too much I don't know too raw too personal um well you said it's kind of interesting actually yeah you should say I thought it was kind of cool okay well so I had a dream where um I'm sorry I'm sort of like blanking now because I'm feeling on the spot I didn't know I was gonna talk about this dream but um what was it I so I you were it was like my ending well yeah you were basically surrounded by it looked like um Native Americans and they were in like traditional kind of Native American dress you know like headdresses and things like that and jewelry and it was like the chief came up to you and you know said to you like I can't remember if he gave you something or if he just put his hand on your shoulders but he said I call you beating heart and then I woke up yeah and I just and I was had been sleeping on your chest but it was so vivid this dream you know and I just remember it just felt very real you know like it just felt like gosh oh no I'm gonna cry it felt real and um it felt true like you when calling you beating heart um that's kind of like a way I would describe you it's just your heart you lead with your your heart so so yeah that's my heart knows things when I'm not happy my heart's not happy my when I'm not in alignment my heart will tell me yeah I have heart condition yeah that's funny I don't think I knew that then but no I mean I've had you know um yeah and I just the line you know as we drew to alignment I'm like that was a that was a big alignment there was a really big alignment because that was when we we knew that we were gonna be spending some time together anyway well I think it's when we knew we were in love right yeah well Adrienne and Jeff thank you for those beautiful songs Meet shark cryo glow the new med spa inspired mask with under eye cooling iq led technology using high-powered led and deep infrared for visible results in just eight weeks better aging treatment boosts collagen and is clinically tested to reduce fine lines and signs of aging skin clearing provides chemical free acne treatment on and beneath the surface and even visibly tightens under eyes in one use developed with dermatologists for radiant results at home learn more at sharkninja.ca do you keep hearing podcast ads like this one for example but always wonder how you actually get involved with them for your own brand or organization well it's easier than you think we're a cast and we give you the platform to do it all yourself browse thousands of popular podcasts choose the shows that match your perfect audience set your budget and launch and if you want to hand our podcast specialists are there to help you launch with confidence this is podcast advertising without barriers get started at acast.com slash advertise